That is a fantastic video. Thanks for taking the time to make them up. Very well done! I'll be trying it in two weeks. Much appreciated!!!

Great explanation 👍I’ll definitely give this a try next time I’m at the lake

Love the Three Amigos reference in the corner there.

This is perfect, thank you!

Ima try this sat, thank you man!

@SoggySleeves

2 жыл бұрын

Love it! Let me know if you have any feedback.

Tons of respect for what you're doing with your setup. Thanks for sharing. You've got major stones fishing a 5wt switch on 8# tippet at Pyramid.

@SoggySleeves

Жыл бұрын

I guess I might’ve dramatized my point in this video. I use 10 lb most often when nymphing, but I still never use 12+lb like a lot of people. More so, because I’m usually fishing the indicator rig in and around rocks, and I might get snagged from time to time. If I haven’t been diligent about checking for nicks and abrasion in my 12-15 lb mainline, I’m worried that I might break off my whole rig rather than just my fly. Or even damage my fly line. I’ll use 10 lb exclusively if nymphing a sandy beach so I can really stick it to em if needed. I’ve been surprised how strong 8 lb tippet can be if it hasn’t been nicked. I’ve straightened 2x heavy hooks before breaking 8 lb.

@lonewizzard8456

Жыл бұрын

@@SoggySleeves 👍😎👍

@lonewizzard8456

Жыл бұрын

@@SoggySleeves looking forward to hitting Pyramid, love it out there

Excellent info and presentation. It goes without saying, this is a unique fishery that demands specialized techniques. Kudos to you for your willingness to share terminal tackle rigs that have been successful for you. Having been there last weekend, I firmly believe I would have increased my chances had I seen your vid before the trip. That being said, a question. When using a standard 8wt, does your recipe change at all? Any adjustments compared to a switch rod? I’m thinking of casting or line management issues with a 9 ft rod. Again, thank you. Tight lines. Subscribed! Alex

@SoggySleeves

2 жыл бұрын

Hey Alex! As far as using a single hand rod vs a switch rod, you will find it more difficult to cast in the wind. And more difficult to get a good roll cast when you have obstructions behind you. A good roll cast also has a lot to do with the type of taper your fly line has. All of that aside, the BIGGEST advantage of a two-handed rod over a singlehanded rod, is the fact that I’m expending much less energy due to casting throughout the day. Instead of my casting arm doing the majority of the work, my other arm can share the load as well. Two-handed rods also require less, if any, false casting. When you’re fishing for 10-14 hours per day, for several days, in windy conditions, all of that matters. Basically what I’m saying is, you can definitely get the job done with a typical 9’, singlehanded rod, but it may not be as enjoyable of an experience, and you probably won’t catch as many fish as you would with a switch rod. Most first timers who use a 9’ rod at pyramid, return the next year with a switch rod. The exception would be fishing from a float tube. In that instance, a short rod has an advantage. It’s much easier to net a big fish from a tube with a shorter rod.

great stuff i already learned and tied a couple sections up question though do you use system for all other stillwater lakes or do you go with lighter butt sections thanks for sharing

If I can offer an alternative to your method the way I’ve done it for years fishing saltwater species in the California surf I don’t use any swivels I just use blood knots to make unions between the butt sections and the tippet section then trim them clean and use the double surgeons loop as the loop connection to the head. So then you take sections of tippet material and tie double surgeons loops on those then wrap around and through your butt section and pull the loop taught against the leader (loop the dropper tippet through itself around the leader and then slide it against the top of the blood knot union). This sounds crazy but the blood knot acts as a stopper for the dropper and the dropper fly can move freely 360 degrees around the leader. This greatly reduces tangling while casting and you can easily change the dropper at any time without having to re-tie the entire leader. I just keep a little zip lock with a bunch of prepared droppers that I can swap out if I break one off or if it gets too short from changing out flies. I’ve caught 40lb stripers in the surf on the dropper and I’ve hooked huge 40-50lb bat rays as well on this rig and it has been nothing but reliable. Of course I always use the non slip loop knot for the fly connection as you do because it gives the best action like you mentioned. 👍

Great info. I've seen your video on your stripping line setup. Why do you go with an integrated line for indicator and a shooting head for the stripping?

@SoggySleeves

Жыл бұрын

For stripping, Sometimes I use just a standard, full sink fly line. But most of the time I use a 30’ t-14 full sink shooting head, paired with that thin, monofilament running line just so I can cast much further, especially in heavy wind. It takes a lot less effort to cast that shooting head/mono running line set up with a two handed rod, than it does to cast a standard taper, full sink fly line.

Yo I just saw you at the lake today and I asked if I knew you! This is where I knew you from!!! I was out on the rock

@SoggySleeves

2 жыл бұрын

Haha cheers! Maybe I’ll see you out there again sometime!

@calebmorandi113

2 жыл бұрын

@@SoggySleeves I’ll be out this weekend, tight lines!

sounds like your Dog is chewing up your Fanorite something!!🤣

Maybe it's my senioritis but I couldn't get the double loop connection to the fly line from the butt section. I looked at your video several times and tried it several times but no go.

You’re the man! Giving out info that guides out there won’t do for the newbies 😎 What if your loop section on the fly line was cut?just a nail knot connection?

@SoggySleeves

2 жыл бұрын

Yep! I have some old fly lines that don’t have welded loops. I still used the 20 lb Amnesia. Attached it to the fly line with a nail knot, then tied a loop knot. The whole thing is only a few inches long, but that basically became my new loop on the end of my fly line. Now I can connect leaders to that fly line with loop-to-loop connections.

@mainlyfishing4599

2 жыл бұрын

@@SoggySleeves before I was using swivels like you and a pyramid guide told me not to use those because of easy break offs 😆 I like your style tho,will be trying it out this weekend out there 😎

Great video(s), thanks! What grain weight switch chucker on your 5 wt? Thanks again.

@SoggySleeves

Жыл бұрын

I’m using the 370 grain weight on my #5 Redington Dually. Different rods and rod manufactures may have different grain windows on their rods. I always email the manufacturers customer service and ask them for the grain window for specific rods. They’ve always been great about replying quickly.

@genegorse312

Жыл бұрын

Thanks, your videos and sharing very helpful! Glad I found your site and looking forward to future videos!

What knot do you use to tie the backing to the running Line?, then running line to the T14? Thanks

@SoggySleeves

Жыл бұрын

On the backing, I do a Bimini twist, leaving about a 5-6” loop. On the running line, I use just a double surgeons knot to also form a 5-6” loop. Then I connect the two with a loop-to-loop connection. On the front end of the running line, I use that same double surgeons loop to attach to the t14 which has a welded loop. I like doing these bigger loop-to-loop connections because that allows me to easily undo any of those connections because I can pass my reel through those loops. I think I have a video of this on my channel.

Great video.. Have you fished Lake Crowley near Mammoth? I'll be fly fishing it for the first time next month and have been trying to figure out a leader set up.

@SoggySleeves

2 жыл бұрын

I haven’t made it out to Crowley yet! It’s definitely high on my list. I have some friends who fish it a lot this time of year. As far as I know, they just fish midge patterns near the bottom. Sometimes having their slip indicators set as deep as 20-25 feet.

@jeremyvia7696

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the feedback man.. I guess I'll just add a few feet on both sections.. Now I just need to figure out how to cast out a 20 foot leader with novice skills.. Im fckd 🤣

Should I use tungsten

What fly box you running in this video? It’s a good looking one.

@SoggySleeves

Жыл бұрын

That is the Tacky Pescador XL, plus the middle leaf insert. I love that box because it can hold all of my pyramid lake flies. I leave that box back in the truck, and I’ll just pick flies from it as needed, and add those to my smaller boxes which I’ll keep in my waders or jacket.

Attaching the backing to the lazarline which knot do you use if if seen other setups it looks like a double loop as the nail knot is to slick what's your take?

@SoggySleeves

4 ай бұрын

I usually do a loop-to-loop connection, with loops big enough to put my reel through. It makes it easy to add or remove portions of my overall setup without having to unspool the entire thing. To create the loop with the lazar line, I just do a double surgeons knot (use gloves or something when synching down to protect your fingers). I use a Bimini twist when making loops with backing. It’s probably overkill, and in reality a double or triple surgeons knot loop would probably do just fine, but I’ve always done the Bimini twist, and applied zap-a-gap afterwards, and it’s never failed.

Headed out there for the first time next week, your videos have been super helpful for getting prepped, big thanks! One question: do you ever use an additional floating tip off the end of the fly line? I’ve heard it can help with turn over in the wind. Lmk your thoughts, thanks!

North nets was on fire this Sunday People were catching more on the strip than Indo 🎣

@SoggySleeves

2 жыл бұрын

Good to hear! I love stripping flies on that beach. I’m hoping to strip flies a lot this upcoming week.

@mainlyfishing4599

2 жыл бұрын

@@SoggySleeves don’t forget the go pro lol I’ll say what’s up if I see ya around !

Do you have a video of rod and reel for sinking and floating

@SoggySleeves

2 жыл бұрын

I don’t have any videos specifically dedicated to that. But both my set-up videos discuss the rod choices a little bit. I also have two more videos, which will be out soon, that give some casting instruction for both my sinking and floating line set ups. If you have any questions, just comment and I’ll do my best to answer. Thanks for watching!

Great video. Question for you, do you have such a long leader system in lieu of adding a floating mow tip? I guess my question is regarding the need for such a long leader system when you mainly only fish 15 ft or less? Maybe you know something I don’t….

@SoggySleeves

2 жыл бұрын

I’ll admit that my experience with Mow tips is limited. I’ve only used sinking mow tips, in varying densities, from 5-10’ while swinging for trout and salmon. I suppose you could replace the 2’ Amnesia but section in my rig with a 5’ or shorter mow tip if they exist. However, including the butt section, my entire leader set up is only 15-17’ long, and I often fish with my indicator set at 9-15’ of depth. That being said, during my last trip to pyramid, I spent several days catching fish with my indicator only set to 2-5’. In that scenario, a floating mow tip would’ve probably been awesome! Definitely something I’m gonna have to try next time I find the fish feeding that shallow.

@Petergoneflyfishing

2 жыл бұрын

@@SoggySleeves thanks for your reply. I typically use a 10’ floating mow at the end of the Chucker and then a 13’ leader, but I am curious about your system. Do you ever have trouble with your leader not fully laying flat or collapsing on itself?

why no 10 foot floating head off of the chucker?

@SoggySleeves

3 ай бұрын

Since making this video, I have been using a 10’ floating MOW tip on and off. I actually don’t notice much of a difference with it or without it. My roll casts lay out straight just fine either way. I will say that I find it helpful to add a MOW tip if you suspect your chucker line is a little too light for the rod you’re using. The little bit of extra weight can help load the rod better.

@robgrubb420

3 ай бұрын

@@SoggySleeves right on man!

I got 9’ 8 weights is that too heavy. I can use 9’ 5 weights at pyramid? U don’t think it’s too weak?

@SoggySleeves

2 жыл бұрын

Both are great! 5 weight rods are capable of bringing in very big fish. But I do prefer a heavier rod, like an 8 weight, to help battle the wind. Plus it’s always a little easier on the fish if you can get them in the net quicker.

@Raevenswood

Жыл бұрын

A 5 weight switch or spey rod is about 2-3 rod weights heavier than a single hand 5 weight so technically speaking a 5 weight switch is closer to a 7 or 8 weight single hand rod. 9’ 8wt would be fine to fight a 20lb trout but it’s the wind you need to consider. A 9’ 8wt single hand rod can cast around 300 grains but a 5wt switch can cast up to 450 or more so that can really help when it’s windy. A single hand 5wt would be owned by the wind.

I still prefer your hand written diagrams…I’m going to sell the originals for a million dollar bucks.

@SoggySleeves

2 жыл бұрын

Haha. I’ll keep those comin just for you..

@timkern177

2 жыл бұрын

Awesome. Truly grateful for your efforts and explanations.

I disagree with a level butt section. A tapered 2x leader kicks the INDO over in the wind rain snow and sleet. Tie a tapered leader right to the swivel. Tippet from the swivel should be minimum 10 pounds on midge rig but get regular fly tippet it’s smaller diameter than Seaguar. This is for bobber rigs only. Stripped flies run 15 rope they come from behind to eat the fly. Run 8 pound and you will get owned. It’s not rocket science it’s Pyramid.