The worst thing about him is not even the damage, he feels slow, he genuinely feels in slow motion especially his mid

@jaxfan

8 ай бұрын

I think he the slowest character in the game

@Dabumbus

8 ай бұрын

I think like 2 of his moves are plus lmao

@narisdeuce

8 ай бұрын

@@Dabumbuswhich ones?

@Lance.Gardenhire

8 ай бұрын

The annoying thing is that the character himself isn't that slow, but all his actual moves are.

@OctopusH2O

8 ай бұрын

@@Lance.Gardenhire yeah thats what im trying to say

Character needs like 5 buffs. Regular clone recovery needs to be the same as Raiden teleport, you can punish it but you gotta be on point. Ex Ice ball needs to come out faster, if they do that, that justifies his low damage. Ex clone needs to be 1 bar and have the same recovery as current regular clone. Clone timer needs to be reduced to 2.5 seconds since you can hit him out of it on start up and low pokes can just go right through clone most of the time. And either F1 needs to go back to being 12 frames like in the beta, or F12 need to be -5 instead of -7. They do those 5 thing he goes up on the list but not that much he would realistically land around the same spot as smoke, probably a little lower since he’d still have trash damage, and no mix.

@joanforero1151

8 ай бұрын

That and damage my boi damage we need damage I use this mother fucker and no damage, fucking damage, DAMAGE, EMOTIONAL DAMAGE

@Bell-rh6wp

8 ай бұрын

Sub has decent mix wym? Also I think they should make amplified ice clone have armor

@MacDibs

8 ай бұрын

​@@Bell-rh6wpI don't think he has great mix. He telegraphs his moves pretty well. I've had a couple kick my ass but most subs I run into. Rely on ice slide and back 2 as their mix.

@DavidJohnson-zu4or

8 ай бұрын

​@@Bell-rh6wpAll of his "mix" is just moves that are minus and 1 overhead combo started that is so telegraphed and unsafe that not only do you lose your turn but you eat a whole combo for using his only non metered combo tool

His clone hit box need to be extended and last longer

One way to get around the damage scaling a little bit is Sareena. Deadly Vapors absolutely kills your damage scaling, but Sareenas double blade move doesn't scale as bad, and it acts as a nice combo extender Also try to limit your hit counts by using your back standing kick or sledgehammer before using sareena, if you do it right you should get 35-40%. At high level you usually use kung Lao or Goro anyway

@makexut953

8 ай бұрын

Sub with cyrax was a desdly damage character but, they nerf it 😒

@late6542

8 ай бұрын

He can technically get 45.6-46 with sareena. 47-48 if FB used at the end. I do F12, B+K, 4, B+K, B2, B2, J22, EX DB4, J22, EX DB4, J22, EX DB4, J22, DB1, J222(or wait exactly one second then FB.) This is obviously impractical cus u spend all meter, but that’s the highest damage I can find. Technically after the first J22 EX DB4, you can wait for them to fall then do 4 into BF3, which does 41-42 depending on starter of the combo. I know I’m a nerd for saying all this but thought I should mention

@NotTsukuyomi

8 ай бұрын

I almost had a 43/44% one bar combo @ 6:40 but I dropped it😂

@flyingplanething1850

8 ай бұрын

Sub shouldn't need bum ass serena to function like a normal character, he should be stand alone

@wandered_rogue22

8 ай бұрын

@@late6542to slightly modify your combo and get 50%, after the third J22 into (amp) DB4 you can hit S4 into fatal if you time it right…. It’s a little tricky but it’s guaranteed 50% maybe 52% if you time the fatal blow QTE perfectly (press ❌ or 🅰️ on every hit like in mk11)

Subzero gets done dirty in gameplay and the story

It would have been alright if the only change (from the beta) was nerf his total scaling damage and his ice clone remains strong. This way even if he has low damage he is a deadly defensive threat by keeping aggressors frozen, making him more unique and stand out among the cast by being a counter to meta picks like baraka johnny and raiden

A combo I use Serena which is actually pretty decent is Back Serena, then dash into them and 4,back Serena,the back 2 move twice, then jump in the air and 1 2, then on the ground hit a 4, then finish it off with a back forward 3. I know it’s a full cameo bar but the damage is pretty good. Typically around 380

@Shwazooka

8 ай бұрын

For me, I do 2, 1 in the air because 1, 2 also scales damage just like ground freeze. I found a 40% combo mid screen that isn't too expensive. 1 bar, 1 kameo assist.

This one is a unique buff, make his throw meter burnable to start combos, and make his kameo throw do 30+ more damage, and a buff to ice clone and less damage scaling to special moves

AYOO how this channel not got more subs.. these vids are fire😩🙏🏽

@NotTsukuyomi

8 ай бұрын

Thx bro😂😂😂

Good edits with the good commentary. I play GG not MK but I'm here for this.

He’s mid to bottom tier but that don’t stop him from being my main ngl

5:45 This is a SICK combo

@derrickblackmon420

8 ай бұрын

The fact Sonya makes it a safe launcher. Will make his overhead hit more too

@kaisasuki1501

8 ай бұрын

Could’ve done a lot better instead of repeating the same combo though

You were cooking with the Tekken OST. Nice content champ, you kinda underrated ngl

@NotTsukuyomi

8 ай бұрын

Thx bro💯

Buff my boy subzero

damn you hella good for a grand master you sure thats your real rank damm, you destroyed that baraka as well and he was in demi god almost in god daaamnnn, btw loved the video

@NotTsukuyomi

8 ай бұрын

Thx bro I try to fix a mix between attempting to be funny and good gameplay 😂😂😂

I love the farting sound effect when you missed those slides. There is no better sound than that lol.

@NotTsukuyomi

8 ай бұрын

Bro????

I just know that if sub zero gets buffed. Sub zero mains will dominate mk1 and that makes me scared😂

Am I the only one who noticed he’s playing tekken arcade music in the background, a sly hint on which fighting game is the best 😅😂

@NotTsukuyomi

8 ай бұрын

Tekken music is goated😂 can’t wait for tekken 8

0:25 they're spamming same freeze and its ofc no damage im doing 410-430 with normal combos without spam somthing

shoutout the youtube algorithm for recommending your videos. just subbed for more content. W

Great video. Although he does need buffs in certain areas, i am doing 30-40+% combos with the Sub. Currently a God in Kombat League. He is pretty much all i have been playing with.

Because he killed his father, explains its damage scaling lol

Love the tekken tag ost I was dancin

I can't say Sub-Zero is a bad character to play as because if you can dedicate sometime to get use to him, you can find he can do well damaging combos. (Not counting the joke combos)

U doin work ✍🏽

Bro had that Naruto Clash of Ninja Revolution music in the background at the begging, I SEE YOU! I stg nobody don't know nun bout that game.

@NotTsukuyomi

8 ай бұрын

ONLY REAL ONES KNOW😂😂💯

W video

They need to buff smoke

After seeing you miss the Sonya assist in practice, I'm surprised you decided to use her for online play too 😆. Nonetheless, great video 👌.

@NotTsukuyomi

8 ай бұрын

😂😂😂 thx bro

nah, you don’t need sareena, don’t need deadly vapors. you need cyrax and need to use your air 2 1, and your air ex dive for damage. only use air 1 2 for corner carrying. sub can do 40% midscreen with cyrax no meter. 45% if you spend one bar. same thing in the corner, but if you spend 2 bars you get 50%. if anyone wants to know the combo route i’ll type it out.

@NotTsukuyomi

8 ай бұрын

I almost had a 43/44% one bar combo at 6:40 but I dropped it 😂

@cadenhannon3273

8 ай бұрын

I want the combo route but I play ps5 and don’t know what number goes to what button lol

@NotTsukuyomi

8 ай бұрын

@@cadenhannon3273 1=square 2=triangle 3=x 4=circle

@Mayorofsexytown1303

7 ай бұрын

I do!

That combo at 0:27 wouldve done more damage if you added sareenas blades inbetween but yea they nerfed the fuck outta him

His overhead launcher is so slow as well people can react after you start the hit. You have to be a smart sub player to have decent matches. Mileena out here doing 60 percent damage, lui kang 40 percent with 1 bar. Next to impossible for sub to do 40% even with 3 bars. Im halfway up grandmaster and am learning with lui kang in training, Im not good enough for sub to take me past grandmaster.

@tytrips8475

8 ай бұрын

Yeah smokes is 28 frames, cry about it

@rafaelguerra9608

8 ай бұрын

@@tytrips8475 lmao a smoke player crying with easy 40% combos? Thought id seen evrything

@Lance.Gardenhire

8 ай бұрын

@@tytrips8475Sub-0's is actually slower. It is 22. His launcher being that slow was the final straw that made me stop maining him. I picked up Smoke. His launcher still may be slow, but I at least don't have to deal with absolutely atrocious damage.

@tytrips8475

8 ай бұрын

@@Lance.Gardenhire wow you’re dumb

@MrGustavoFringW

8 ай бұрын

​@@tytrips8475the fun fact smoke overhead launcher can be cancel and make you safe. I think you don't play this game

he is literally rain in mk11

Wow man i wish i could play Sub-zero like you 😢

I still remember a 44 hit combo that did like 290 damage like what the fuck man

they just need to not make the freeze low his damage output fr

I still playing him until they get buff you gonna see js

Bro makes Sub look playable

He needs more damage

Man u guys just use the ground freeze cause y’all know how badly it scales so u do it to look bad.

hows this guy only got 1k subs

No yall don’t understand I had a scorpion cyrac game going and a combos with fatal blow did 21% damage

@NotTsukuyomi

8 ай бұрын

💀💀💀

999 subs It’s time for me to make history

If you want to play sub and you use deadly vapors - you have smth wrong with you if you expect damage I use his air launchers and maan damage is always 40 for 1 bar and 1 cameo

On one hand, I want Clone to be stronger. On the other hand, too many Sub-Zero enjoyers will live and die by the clone (looking at you, Brady!); that needs to stop, and I admit to being spoiled by older entries of the MK franchise letting me get away with safe wake-up ice clones. My other issues with MK1 Bi Han rigt now are the near gimmicky nature of his strings (he's fuzzy blockable on damn near anything he does) and the cumulative damage scaling penalty applied by multiple freeze states within a combo. The penalty should only be applied once per combo sequence to bring his damage output closer to parity with the rest of the cast, and the speed of his overhead string enders could use some tweaks.

@DrangusKahn

8 ай бұрын

Why does it need to stop? Some of us it’s our fav move in the series.. Baiting and settin gn up traps is allot of fun so stop telling people how to play..

Sub-Zero's more optimal combo starter is his F12, mainly because it doesn't scale as bad with deadly vapors.

I love sub zero in this game but it feels like such an uphill battle for me if people block low and use a lot pokes. Though by no means am i a competitive player i pretty much only play casual games cuz im not a fan of how combat legue plays.

baraka cyrex rage quit on sub zero is wild

@NotTsukuyomi

8 ай бұрын

I didn’t think it was possible 😂😂😂

Kung Lao is the only viable Kameo at higher rank. The consistence hard to block pressure is more valuable than a little bit of occasional damage and no pressure at all.

@NotTsukuyomi

8 ай бұрын

I feel like Stryker and sub kameo is up there too. I just try not to use them to spice up the videos a bit 😂

Make his b2 safe and we cool

Fix his speed ice ball ice clone the scaling of the 2,1 and his damage, and ill main him.

Sub deserves a buff🥲

Good video, gotta fix the mixing a bit tho, your voice too low most of the times

@NotTsukuyomi

8 ай бұрын

Thx for the feedback bro💯

Even as Sub-Zero Bihan is still a Noob deep inside

@michaeidk

8 ай бұрын

Underrated comment

I was happy i got to demi god with solo sub zero 😭 but it was rough

@NotTsukuyomi

8 ай бұрын

How many controllers did you break? 😂😂😂

@monologgue

8 ай бұрын

@@NotTsukuyomi none but I definitely felt the urge to throw my controller 💀

I'll be waiting for that onlyfans

@NotTsukuyomi

8 ай бұрын

🤨🤨🤨

I'm at God right now with sub but you have to work really hard to get wins with him

@derrickblackmon420

8 ай бұрын

Same character and same rank. I feel stuck.but you're right. Open them up like 4 or 5 times when a Raiden needs a solid 2 or 3

sub zero is so weak they did my boi dirty

sub zero is 42 hits - 145 damage

literally you have to play perfect and he does no damage god damn

@NotTsukuyomi

8 ай бұрын

Exactly!😂

The only game I wanna play sub zero and they do him thsi dirty🤦‍♀️

All people complaining about the damage.....but nobody realize that subzero is broken. He doesn't have poor damage, he can't do it because is broken He don't need combos...he is BROKEN and needs to be fixed

Try forward 1 2 combo string instead of 2 2

All you drones using Serena to get 40% try thinking outside the box. Sonya guarantees easy 40% and you don’t have to play like a scrub 😂

Not sure why people keep saying how weak SubZero is, hes one of the most annoying characters to fight for me. People spam his 50/50 mixup, i have to either guess, are they going to do the gay little low kick move, or the overhead, not to mention you can cancel the second low kick to go overhead, its wildly confusing to fight against, and if I guess wrong, there goes 300+ of my health. ill gladly nerf my main Scorpion damage for some damn mixes or atleast make his standing 2 a mid. Scorpion is who needs a buff, he's notoriously the worst character in the game, Sonicfox said so himself. Sure they could buff SubZero's damage some, but i dont get people saying hes so weak, I'm demi-god ranked so i'm slightly above the average player, and him and smoke give me the most trouble by far. I will say, if you do happen to guess correct, he's def one of the easier characters to punish.

@DavidJohnson-zu4or

8 ай бұрын

He doesn't have 50/50's dude. Its just a skill issue if you can't react to that obvious overhead and you can't "cancel" his low kick into over head anybody who does that with Sub is suicidal because that would never connect unless the opponent is brain dead, and if you think Scorpion is anywhere near as bad as Sub then you are more delusional than most people who say Sub doesn't need help.

This is retribution for being a pain in the ass on MK11. Hopefully NRS doesn't over buff him.

@NotTsukuyomi

8 ай бұрын

Yea now that you reminded me they actually need to nerf him some more😈

We finally got mkx sub back and they somehow make him worse than mk11

As a sub main Maybe he’s not meant for you to spam that same lame sht in one combo over and over. Maybe he’s good how he is and ya just needa spend less meter and stop expecting the most out of a character who has a bunch of overheads and lows 👍🏽 this guy showing off some heat with sub but he spamming the same b.s

@DavidJohnson-zu4or

8 ай бұрын

Thats such a moronic take from someone who clearly doesn't know what they are talking about

maining sub actually made me delete the game today

@giwrgoskaragiorgas2576

8 ай бұрын

Why are you an idiot or something

how do u get that skin with subzero

@NotTsukuyomi

8 ай бұрын

I’m not actually sure but I’m guessing somewhere in invasions. There are similar skins in the seasonal store if you look at the bottom right of mk1’s Home Screen

@kylenguyen7371

8 ай бұрын

​@@NotTsukuyomithe Invasion palette is actually a reward for defeating Invasion Boss Sub-Zero at the end of the Sun Do mesa, if I recall correctly.

Where's the of?

@NotTsukuyomi

8 ай бұрын

👀

instead of doung 2 1 to start combos do F12 it doesnt scale

I SUBBED 4 the Content not the O.F. 😂😂 yall pray 4 sub-zero 😅

@NotTsukuyomi

8 ай бұрын

😂😂😂

Honestly the character is bad but there’s also positives in that bad subzero got tools where other characters don’t I’ve decided to go ahead and main him and found success he’s definitely not a rush down character he’s more defensive and trap basically gotta keep baiting your opponent then getting the optimal damage you need to win

@derrickblackmon420

8 ай бұрын

He can be played. I got to God with him.now I can't go anywhere. Stuck

@Wayn3z

8 ай бұрын

@@derrickblackmon420 you made it far bro I too made it to elder god once you go in god just gotta play it a bit more patient and switch up kameos for zoners use bnbs combos u hit them 3 times with 30% and it’s basically in your favor!

@derrickblackmon420

8 ай бұрын

@@Wayn3z thanks for the advice man. It's hard out here ha

Dmg scales of freeze stop acting like he is unplayable.I think he needs better recovery on freeze and ice ball. I enjoy this sub way better than mk11

@Lance.Gardenhire

8 ай бұрын

He kinda is unplayable. His damage is low, his pop up is super reactable, and all his moves are unsafe. I had to stop maining him after I got to warrior.

I have some secrets for subzero but thats only for me to know

@DavidJohnson-zu4or

8 ай бұрын

Nobody cares

@michaeidk

8 ай бұрын

@@DavidJohnson-zu4or your super funny

@DavidJohnson-zu4or

8 ай бұрын

@@michaeidk Who's laughing? I know I'm not

@michaeidk

8 ай бұрын

@@DavidJohnson-zu4or are you retarded or are you being serious

His damage isn’t bad. You have to do optimals to get his true damage so this is like where I feel sareena is what completes him. You have to be able to consistently do b2 into J21 clone or else you won’t be getting combo damage mid screen

Hate to break it to you but you’ve got four days and and 24- 23 now

@NotTsukuyomi

8 ай бұрын

Maybe KZread shuts down for a few days😅

@thesaltmerchant4564

8 ай бұрын

@@NotTsukuyomi we can only hope

Slow moves,all moves are punishable, worst damage scale in the game,5s iceclone,usseles iceball,..........

That was a horrible fatal blow combo. Not optimal at all lol. Sub needs a buff for real though.

@NotTsukuyomi

8 ай бұрын

True but I just wanted to show that this is literally the only character that can use 3 bars of meter AND fatal blow just to not break 30% damage

@travieetreproductions943

8 ай бұрын

@@NotTsukuyomi these are facts that I can’t argue with.. they did Sub dirty for sure

Are u thelolhounds 2.0 ?

@NotTsukuyomi

8 ай бұрын

No this is Patrick

Where’s the OF?

@NotTsukuyomi

7 ай бұрын

Bro??????

@NotTsukuyomi

7 ай бұрын

I talked about it on the nerf scorpion vid

@mrcrabs3765

7 ай бұрын

Lmaooo

@mrcrabs3765

7 ай бұрын

But fr I stumbled on your channel today and I like the Kontent 💯 keep it up bro maybe we can get a round in sometime

I seen this Sub Zero player use scorpion and averaged 38-40% it was really impressive, he made him look good and since then I just dont believe anyone plays him correctly, and for anyone saying his overhead is too slow im pretty sure barakas overhead is slower lol Edit:Anyone saying sareena is more average then her combos🙄

@nam6282

8 ай бұрын

Yeah but Baraka overhead is safe

Sub zeros exclusively who I’ve been playing this season and it feels rewarding lol

I’m glad scorpions and sub zero isn’t buff or most played because mk 11 was lame with the amount of noobs and scorpions and sub zeros was on there it’s boring (you mad about time to fire but look at rain it’s slow

Lower the music and raise your voice. The music is way too loud in some clips; I can't even hear you. or maybe even remove the music entirely from most of the video; it's very unnessassry and annoying.

bro sub zero is not mid😐

@DavidJohnson-zu4or

8 ай бұрын

You're right, he's terrible

@user-qc3uk6uk9v

7 ай бұрын

@@DavidJohnson-zu4or no he isn’t goofy

@DavidJohnson-zu4or

7 ай бұрын

@@user-qc3uk6uk9v Yes he is, if you lose to him you just suck

great vid! u have a community discord ?

@NotTsukuyomi

8 ай бұрын

Nah bro I don’t think I’m that cool rn😂😂😂

Enhanced ice ball should be faster