Budget DIY Ecoflow Delta Pro! More power for less money
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0:24 Cost and Features of Delta Pro
1:32 DIY Ecoflow Delta
4:21 Cost and Features of DIY System
6:23 Delta Pro Versus DIY Cost Comparison
9:08 3000W DIY Ecoflow Delta!
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@peacepoet1947
Жыл бұрын
You are amazing. Nice that you get provided with these devices to make comparisons.
@ivarOkie
Жыл бұрын
Will! Great videos! I have been selling used solar panels from Arizona solar farms here in Oklahoma. However I would like to expand to offer batteries and other system equipment. What would be the best way for me?
@Theaskegroup
Жыл бұрын
Will, do you have a video regarding the best way to put AC outlets on the DIY system? I need a unit that will be able to run my refrigerator/freezer and then some additional charging and lighting capabilities. Thank you!
@peacepoet1947
Жыл бұрын
@@ivarOkie start a channel showing what you have to offer.
@peacepoet1947
Жыл бұрын
@@Theaskegroup you need an inverter to have AC current with solar.
I truly admire that there isn't a single company that owns you. Your opinions come from your vast knowledge that no one can question. Thank you Mr. Prowse
@poseyperspective3591
Жыл бұрын
Ditto
@Because_Im_Ace
Жыл бұрын
I second this. This channel has taught me so much. It’s truly a great resource.
@dominique___1980
Жыл бұрын
And I third it. :)
@DougsterCanada1
Жыл бұрын
I 4th it. - Cheers from Canada
@04dram04
Жыл бұрын
unless he is reviewing sponsored products...
Thanks to you, today is 30 days off grid. Two Power Queen 100 ah, two SOK 100ah. Separate from one another with a two way marine grade switch. Only 400 watts of panels Of which I hope to add to this coming year. I’m 58 so Thank You young man. I’ve always wanted to say that.
Really appreciate and enjoy your DIY videos Will, especially when you revisit your roots and mention DIY budget minded systems that would work well in a off-grid motorhome, or RV. That said, and while I know how you feel about ever owning another motorhome, I think if you made a few videos that discussed what your most "ideal" DIY motorhome battery and rooftop solar setup would actually be... I think such videos would be a great addition and a huge hit with your subscirbers.
@morgananderson9647
Жыл бұрын
What would be really cool would be to set up a system and include an Arduino controller connected to the vehicle what would automatically start the engine (& alternator) when it reached a minimum charge state and replenish the battery bank.
That's what I like about this young man he keeps it simple when it comes to building these units
Wanted to say thank you for sharing your knowledge. I got started by watching your videos years ago and 2 years ago I built my own 6kw storing off grid style solar array and it has been going strong till this day with no issues. Learned it all here..everything from proper wire gauge, hydraulic crimping, sizing..everything. I use it to run my homes window ac units. Thanks again keep doing what you do!
Omg. These are the best Videos ever from you.
Excellent video. I do IT work and recently (as in today) just ordered an all-EG4 setup. The 6500EX-48 and a single EG4-LL V1 server rack battery to match. The bonus was that EG4 will give you a 5-year warranty on the inverter when paired with an EG4 battery. This LL battery has a 10-year warranty which was nice for us b/c we're powering a Server Rack and are using this setup to deliver a consistent load of 3200W that runs 24x7. I will hook it to the grid for input power but have the option of adding panels and more battery to get longer UPS run time and pay back for the cost of the setup by offsetting power consumption costs. This setup cost me $2950 and the equivalent all-in-one units $3500 for budget systems (5000 VA) to well over $8000 for name brand. All I need is a backer board, and a disconnect on the input and battery side, and I"m in business; so maybe not 30 minutes, but well under an hour.
@cwr8618
Жыл бұрын
Any interference issues w home electronics?
@LarryRichelli
Жыл бұрын
I am getting ready to pull the trigger on the exact same setup for a backup to the 37' RV I live in. 240v is essential for 15k btu air conditioners.
I wish Will went one step further for us noobs and showed a specific suggested solar panel array including how to wire it up. This looks great, but most of us noobs would have no idea what solar panels to get, how to wire it (series or parallel), what gauge wire to use, where to put circuit breakers. I think Will has been doing this so long that he can easily do all of this just in his head, but he's forgetting about us noobs who come here to be shown the COMPLETE A to Z of how to build a full working system. Please do a follow video showing us your solar panel recommendations and how to wire it all up.
@WillProwse
Жыл бұрын
I have videos that cover every single point here. Especially the wiring of multiple panels. Or my book that is one dollar.
@WillProwse
Жыл бұрын
I try to avoid making the same video over and over again
@MyChannel-vm6dw
Жыл бұрын
@@WillProwse Will, in most cases I would agree but in this particular case, people like myself are looking at the Delta Pro Max and are now considering your much better alternative and would like to build THIS system but have no idea how or what would be a scaleable cost effective way of picking which solar panels you would specifically recommend. Would someone choose series or parallel wiring for this setup. Please consider it Will. I know I and many other noobs want to build this system complete and trust your specific recommendations.
@sj1047
Жыл бұрын
@@MyChannel-vm6dw agreed Will come on do it for the noobs!!! Just how to set up a array with this system.
@fvrrljr
Жыл бұрын
photovoltaic / solar thermal technician here: you should just buy his book easy to understand or just watch every video he has put out. i bought the book to have in my collection because i like and support his work and knowledge. only few have taken my recommendation to go with SunPower made in the USA it's all about cost, many good solar panels out there. as to wire them in series vs parallel: in a series circuit, the current through each of the components is the same, and the voltage across the circuit is the sum of the voltages across each component. in a parallel circuit, the voltage across each of the components is the same, and the total current is the sum of the currents through each component. residential homes are not wired in series, yes and no. wire the panels in series and connected in parallel. that's going to go over your head. if we want to compare with engines 6 cylinder with one barrel vs two barrels or a 8 cylinder with one barrel, two barrels, four barrels or a 6 pack with is 3 two barrel carburetors... memories woa i got off the subject 🤣 just buy the book Bro' and welcome to the club
Simply the best info out there. STRAIGHT to the point, no frills, no garbage ads.. absolute gold. Thank you!
I'm going to opt for the simpler version and get an electrician to help me with the install. You finally have what I want in a system. The solar input is what concerned me. This system blows away the competion from all that I have been viewing. God bless you Will. You just made my day brother. P.S. I will be buying two systems, one for each of my homes.
@wakawaka1976
Жыл бұрын
How did the build go?
Wholly Crap Will, you are always making people change their minds because of your Knowledge and Expertise. Every time I think I know what I want, I see another video of yours to change my mind.
This is an excellent video that I wish I had the opportunity to see much earlier. I could have saved over $4000 on a Ecoflow Delta Pro with a 400 watt folding solar panel. Both are sitting in a closet right now. The great news is that your website taught me where to buy the LV6548, where to buy rack mount batteries, and how to set it all up. I left that 150 volt limit in the dust and could not be happier. Blackouts will not ruin my day, and I can expand whenever I feel like it. The expansion units for the Delta Pro are also expensive at $2799 each for just 3600 watt hours more. Additional rack mount batteries for the LV6548 will give you 5120 watt hours more for about $1000 less each than the Ecoflow option. Since it can be charged from an AC outlet, I will mostly likely bring the Delta Pro out for outdoor activities. I found 3600 watt hours woefully inadequate for a home office. My Toshiba window air conditioner runs at 700 watts, so the battery is drained in about 5 hours. That is without running lights, charging phones, or using devices like a TV or computer. Thank you very much for your resources and videos. I guess timing is everything. Signature Solar was out of stock months ago, but it looks like their inverters and batteries are available now. If I could afford to assemble a 240 volt system today, I would buy from them now while they still have stock.
Love it, amazing video. Can't get any clearer or simpler than this! +1 for the comment about a RV build with an EG4 3000 and a EG4 server rack battery. This is my exact setup. 1000w of solar on the roof, 3000W inverter output, and the 5.1 kWh battery is a killer setup for a small RV. Going to be creating video walkthrough of my system soon. Thank you for all the advice and solar tutorials. I've learned SO much from your content! :)
@Mitchdzj
Жыл бұрын
That would be awesome for you to share a walkthrough of your system and what solar panels you got and how you integrated everything into the rv’s electrical system! That is exactly what I’m looking for as well. Something awesome for a small rv travel trailer to be exact. Thanks!!
@Ivan-jj3lh
Жыл бұрын
I'm actually very interested in seeing this, as someone not too versed in batterys, i just don't understand if you can use this to wire a van or rv built to the needed lights and sockets
@justinnkim
Жыл бұрын
I would love to see a video. However, I think that size,power output, and other factors can be adjusted to meet your needs and can live with.
@trentonomore8376
Жыл бұрын
I'd love to see your setup as well!
@roncuevas3313
Жыл бұрын
How did you get a 12 volt feed for your Rv? I would like to see your setup. This is exactly what I want, just not sure how to do all of it. Thanks, Ron C.
When I got my pro the eg4 wasn’t readily available The biggest drawback for the pro is expanding battery capacity, It cost 2500 per battery and they are very proprietary as far the plugs go. I still like my pro and haven’t had any issues so far. I charge it with 4 245watt used panels and it handles all my needs with very little AC charging . Thank you for the information.
@morpher44
Жыл бұрын
yet many battery systems can be wall charged, and therefore you can dump power from the EcoFlow into other battery systems this way (with conversion loss of course).
Start a company marketing this setup and call it: Will Power!
In the home lab community, people mount server rack items to the Ikea Lack table after replacing the legs with a stronger wood. You can also screw wheels into the replacement legs and roll them. Deck screws should hold the wheels in place for years.
Thanks Will! I built an awesome system for my RV with a Growatt 3000 and a 48v server rack battery... similar to what you mentioned here. This is the video that convinced me to do it! So glad i could rip out that old 12v AGM battery!
Thank you! This is exactly what I need and finally the prices are within reach.
I'm just starting out. I make decent money and was interested in this kind of setup. I'm absolutely in love with what you did here. This is exactly what I was looking for. I'm going to spend some time to look around at other components but I just wanted to say how perfect this video was. Thanks so much and I'm glad to have found your channel!
I've been watching your videos for a long time and you do an excellent job of reviewing and educating your viewers plus you provide an honest and objective point of view. I can't imagine the amount of time and effort it takes for you to create these videos but you clearly have a love and passion for what you do so you must enjoy it all. Great work!!
For those who are considering an all-in-one portable, this is an Aha Moment! I have a Yeti 3000X I bought two years ago and the compatible expansion batteries are lead acid! I do like the built-in wheels for bugging out, but C’mon! Thanks, Will.
I have two Delta Pro + Extra Battery setups. I love them, mostly because of the plug-n-play feature and I'm electricity challenged. When I bought the EcoFlow, though, it was the kickstarter deal and the best bang for the buck... at that time. The more I'm watching videos from you and a few other YT content creators, I'd TOTALLY go this way instead.
@justinnkim
Жыл бұрын
no regrets here. I bought a delta pro in the beginning of this year. I have it hooked up to my work/gaming rig. In the event of an emergency. I drag two used solar panels into the back yard to power my fridge,deep freeze and mini fridge. Even on the crappy cloudy weekend when I did my test it was enough emergency power. Even if my power died right now. I can still work for another 10 hours. plus I can move the dam thing. If I go camping I can take it with me. I did pick up some electric blankets in the event that we lose power in the winter. The electric blanket only use like 100W max.
@GOLDVIOLINbowofdeath
Жыл бұрын
@@justinnkim You can put wheels on a rack mount cabinet that’s what I’m doing on a 10u cabinet in my sprinter. Unlock with key to remove and roll on ground/floor
This is what makes your channel the best DIY solar 🛰 battery 🔋 channel. Thanks Will.
goodjob will! DIY doesnt mean you have to make your own battery pack or get a bunch of skechy battery packs like Jehu without warranty and just get those server batteries (with warranty) and all in one inverters! thank you will! you are still my #1 hero!
Being able to get 220- 240v AC for use with EV charging and welding etc is important to some people . You should do a video that steps this system up to 240v AC output. great video. keep em coming.
@ghost101049
Жыл бұрын
I second that. I do welding on fences and something like what you describe would be great for a spool welder or mobile jobs.
@kimberlywindsor-johnson9279
Жыл бұрын
I'd like to see this myself
@jasonm4928
Жыл бұрын
I think this is a great suggestion. I need 240v for my well and that is the main reason I was looking at 2 Delta Pros linked. So server rack batteries outputting 240 volts and at least 30 amps would be great.
I just picked up and finished with the 3000 EG4 and a EG4 battery build..total cost $2325. Put it on a 600lb dollie. Right now charge with 6 250w used panels. Ran down to 25% and charged back up today to 100%.
We purchased and used the Eco Flow Delta Po for a few days and realized that it was definitely not going to meet our needs. Thankfully we were able to return it and build a DIY solar system using your guidance and it has been fantastic! We are also in a much better position for the future.
Ecoflow is only $2999 at Costco most of the year with a 5 year warranty and free shipping by the time you factor in shipping those units are $3000-3600
Thank you for this video! I was going to get the Ecoflow Delta Pro but after this video, I pretty much duplicated this set up. Thanks to your other videos I have saved at least $2K from my solar budget and can make other improvements. I was originally being lazy, the DIY system is well within my skill set and very expandable. In the near future I may expand the system to 240 VAC so I can run my well pump, charge my Tesla, etc. I have an old farm house on a few acres that we use as a weekend retreat. This will fit right in with our improvements. (We are keeping it looking quaint and rustic but under it all is very high tech.
This was a great video, and such a great alternative with much more power. My husband and I are going to take the hour to build this, after we review your beginner videos 😅 Thanks for the video
When there are so many people talking shite on youtube, this young man is gold! Never let your standards slip or your put a price on your integrity.
Thanks Will. I've been pulling my hair out trying to decide which one of these I want for months. Now that the 6500 is in stock I think that's my goto. The main reason was delta only 1600 watt input. I even thought about two delta pros but linked together you still only get 1600 input. And the price starts getting out of control. Thanks Man 👍👍👍
@JohnSmith-gz5pm
Жыл бұрын
You can charge at 3000 watts input through 240v.
Solar generators have a lot if advantages to go with the drawbacks. Simple to use, portable, and compact. Everything you need is inside that box. Your ac and dc plugs are right there and operate just like your wall plugs at home. DIY systems can basically offer unlimited power and massive charging capabilities but that also comes with a trade-off. They're much bigger and portability is iffy. I have a small diy system that I use as backup for freezers in the barn. It's in a Husky rolling box so it's portable, but not really super cheap when you add in all the components. I also have 2 Bluetti units that are very user friendly but certainly more pricey.
Thinking outside of the box. The comparison, which I had never considered, makes real sense.
I just love this guy,simple,honest,blunt n precise
The eg4 3000 and eg4 48 volt battery is exactly what I want to get started in solar because i know i could expand it over time. I really only need it to run a computer, lights, and 9000 btu mini split for a few hours each day. My biggest hangup is the idle consumption of the eg4 inverter....and even though it's fairly cheap it will still take years to pay for itself. In my current tight financial situation I just can't justify making that leap to solar yet. But thanks to these videos I will be ready when I am in a good enough financial situation to pull the trigger. Until then I earnestly await news of cheaper and better batteries and cheaper and better all in one inverters.
@ablejohnson
Жыл бұрын
Look at the Victron Multillus it is more money but much better quality and has a low idle consumption . I have a 24/3000 and a smart solar 100/50 solar charge controller I've been very happy with the equipment. That being said I still want to buy one of these All in ones as a spare option
Dang, wish I'd have seen this ... but you hadn't made the video yet ... before I purchased a Bluetti AC500 and 2 BC300S batteries. I'll be using them in my new home as a UPS, and in my RV for solar power. Could have saved a bunch going with a DIY system like you showed here. Thanks for all your doing for the solar generator community. Your a wealth of information and make it all very easy to understand.
You have the absolute best plain English solar power video's on the internet
Awesome. I'm pulling the trigger next year and I will use your links. Thanks for your time and sharing your thoughts.
@WillProwse
Жыл бұрын
Thank you!! :) Glad I can help
@Bob_Adkins
Жыл бұрын
@@dfox344 What haters? I've never seen a single negative comment about Will.
Thanks, Will!! I've heard a lot of people poo-poo the all-in-one setups (like the EG4 6500EX) but dang, there is an awful lot of bang for the buck and things like charge controllers and inverters seem to be pretty well matched. Really appreciate your sharing your journey. It makes a difference.
@networkingdude
Жыл бұрын
I think the only people that are poo-pooing it are Victron and Sol-Ark folks. I mean they have a better ecosystem and quality but that doubling of costs....
I like when you explain and make more sense in the options we can have by saving versus the other
You sir, are a gentleman and a scholar. Thank you for your service.
One problem is the idle consumption of all in one unit is much higher about 30 to 50 Watts. Ecoflow did a great job on that
@costinioana
Жыл бұрын
This is by far the biggest drawback for these DIY systems vs. the EcoFlow / Bluetti. Second for me would be how compact things are packed in a SoGen.
@WillProwse
Жыл бұрын
Could enable power saving mode. Also the 3000W model idle consumption is much lower. Just use that one instead. Bigger models have bigger idle consumption
@Dreadlk
Жыл бұрын
The 3000W model is only 120V.
@WillProwse
Жыл бұрын
@@Dreadlk so is the lv6548
@mdunbar04
Жыл бұрын
All the Sogens have hidden idle consumption some more than others
Super helpful Will - cheers man!! I am in Australia and looking to move my art studio into an RV - all the RV manufacturers offer useless small Solar/battery/inverter configurations - so this video gives me the confidence to install this type of All in One / server rack battery power station to truely allow me to off grid whenever I choose in the RV. I appreciate your wisdom - take care - regards Crow.
Such genuine analysis , I have an ecofliw delta pro in New Zealand ..I looking to buy a damaged EV as back up battery ..
I like this video and even though I paid full price for my delta pro early this year. No regrets here. There is like 20 factors that determine if a solution is right for you. Its not always about just the cost. This solution is pretty nice for a non portable setup.
@nashonabo821
Жыл бұрын
Yeah my outlook on it is even if you paid full price for it, in the event you need it you wouldn’t really care and probably would pay 5 times as much if worst case scenario your life depended on it. Best case scenario losing out on hundreds if not thousands of food and having to deal with other people rushing to the store to get stuff. Refrigeration honestly keeps society together so the fact you’ll be at ease while everyone else is freaking out is another plus
Would be cool to see some form of DIY shell that could be used on those LifePO4 batteries you test a lot of. Basically clamp the positive and negative on, latch it up, and have a small portable system with a few outlets. Need extra capacity, just buy more LifePO4's and swap them out as you exhaust them. This way instead of over 2k to start you could get in cheaper and slowly grow your capacity. Wouldn't ever match a large unit like this but would work for smaller tasks and spot outages where you don't need a massive system in place.
This a great argument in favour of self builds... there are lots of alternate variations available.
I literally bought the delta pro with solar panel and extra battery that was on sale. Saw this video a day later and canceled my order. Thanks Will, saved so much money! 😂
For those that don't know,,, Server racks are also known as PA system racks. Musicians have been using these for years! Effects, amps, prossesors, all come in specs to fit into these racks. These are "rack mounted systems, therefore, they will fit any rack mount! You can get them to fit one unit, or 20 units, and they do come with wheels! Check Musicians Freind!
I love your videos. I just bought ECOFLOW delta pro battery 10.kWh for $6500 tax and shipping included.
I bought a refurbished Delta Pro for $2700. I’d rather have that than a bulky, hard to move system for around the same price. Actually, I want both!
Looking to get my shipping container workshop off the grid and this video was perfect. So helpful.
@cwr8618
Жыл бұрын
Sounds cool
Great video!! The options are really getting affordable! Thanks Will!!
Thank you for doing what you do, and "curse you !!!" LOL. I was set on the Ecoflow Delta Max for an Overland Trailer build I am doing, and this definitely gives me food for thought. I'm a little nervous as I do not know as much as you and I did like the simplicity of "plug and play" with the Delta Max. I also have an RV for more friendly terrain. This exact setup would be great for the RV, and the 3k version will be great for my Overland. I will be watching this again a few times and doing my research with your advice. I like the DIY, the cheaper is always good, the more power is gold! Thanks again for your posts.
DIY, THAT is what we (me) need in this time! Thanks, you help further our lives!!!
Very few qualify people in the world you are one of them honest humble human being 💪⚒️🇺🇸🤘👊🤙👍
Awesome. I wanted 48 volt because my 2021 MB sprinter 2500 is on a 48 volt system. They switched over to that so save money and weight on the copper wire but also to be compatible with the new ISG ( integrated starter generator) sometimes referred to as mild hybrid. It's integrated into 3rd generation MB sprinter transmission to aid in not only starting but to help with the turbo lag on the 2 liter inline diesel 4 cylinder intercooled twin scroll turbo charged engine at low RPM. It yields an additional 20 hp and about 130 foot lbs of torque using a 0.9 kWh lithium battery. It also activates at speed when at high power and adds regenerative braking. I get a ridiculous 1000km range out of my high top sprinter (10 L/100km) with the 100 liter fuel tank. Now I need to plan out the roof layout to cram as much solar as possible up there. Thanks Will.
The holy grail. I've been into some deep rabbit holes looking for answers. And you, my friend, are granting my wishes like the wizard of oz right now, lol. I'm so impressed with your knowledge, your work, and your story. Thank you, man. You're a genius.
Total noob, here. I really don't WANT to learn all the details about battery/solar power, so a retail "off the shelf" solution with a warranty, tech support, etc. sounds really good to me. I currently run a 3000w gas generator for my off-grid cabin. It's more than enough power for everything we would run. We turn it on to run the AC during the summer, to run the microwave/toaster, etc. and we charge our devices while it's on. We usually don't run it at night during the cooler weather, so I have to go out in the cold to start it. I want something quieter and with the option to remote start/stop, so I'm looking at the Delta Pro, their remote control, and the Ecoflow Smart Generator. With that setup, I'll be able to add solar panels later. The main benefit to me is being able to set it to AUTOMATICALLY kick the generator on at 25% and off when charged. It's more expensive than DIY, but I've been researching for a while and it seems like every video I watch decreases my desire to dig any deeper. I have my nerd niches, but this just isn't one of them.
Last year I bought the Ecoflow Delta Max with extra batteries for 6KW total output. Since they now have the Delta Max 2 (with LiFePo4 batteries) I was contemplating another setup for 12KW total juice. Cost is still an issue and I have the technical ability, so I'm seriously considering a DIY system very much like this. Cheers!
Ecoflow on sale for 3199 right now, I think that tipped the scales for me. Also saving myself probably 4-5 hours wiring and mounting a diy system.
Definitely using this for my new cargo trailer build. I used the bluetti as a power souce in my last build, which worked out great for all the power needs but the battery capacity here, boom.
THANK YOU SO MUCH! I wanted a ecoflow delta pro but it is to expensive and I have been looking to build one but didn't know how, now with your help I can! I'm so exited! Thanks again!
Definitely an useful video but the point of buying a set as the ecoflow is its convenience and compact format logically at an additional cost.
I've watched several of your videos, and I just wanted to thank you for making these videos. No other person explains these systems in such easy to understand (and comprehend) terms. And I am ordering the system you reviewed today, and I will tell the guy at Signature Solar that I chose them because of your recommendation.
I could watch your videos every day. Wish you uploaded more, but I know quality videos take time to make. Best solar channel on KZread.
Thanks for a informative video! I am doing this myself since I am really tired of Ecoflow. My Delta Max broke after 6 months, and after 6 weeks at their repair shop they said that they will replace the unit. Another 3 weeks has gone and they still havent sent any new unit. So dissapointed and anoyed. Never again Ecoflow!!!!!
Perfect video to explain to my friends and family. Thank you, Will!
I paid $2600 total for 4 Chins 12v 200 ah batteries shipping and handling included to alaska. I hooked them up to my Aims 4kw inverter charger 12kw surge, that I paid $1100 for 2 years ago. Already cheaper than what you showed, after factoring the fact I have 8kw of power without wearing out the batteries much.
@klynch7329
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What part of your system allows for solar input/charging?
@pheorrungurd8746
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I already had a 2kw solar array and 2 150/60 Victron solar chargers from when I was using 12v. Went from agm batteries a month ago, to lithium, and that was the most drastic change since we got the inverter.
Excellent comparison! This was always in the back of the DYI minds but never in a factual presentation.
Wow. Fantastic. You're making me wish I hadn't dropped the money on a "factory" solar generator. But, that's a sunk cost, so if I ever think of an expansion, this is the way I'll go.
this video was NOT sponsored by Ecoflow
Good video and I completely agree w/ you. Just got 30kWh of batteries from signature solar and decided between the EG4 6.5 and EG4 3000. Seems to be some discrepancy on what the idle consumption is in the manual versus what you and other you-tubers are seeing in real life. If there isn't much of a difference, the 6.5 is the way to go since the 3000 doesn't have dual MPPT charge controllers but I do like the screen on the 3000 better, as well as its size and price. One thing you could have addressed in this video is the DC output. That's something the Ecoflow has that the DIY doesn't. You could have added a step down converter from 48v to 12v and then had some DC ports off that for probably $100 or less to really make it more comparable.
@danielbell230
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Do you know if / how I could set up a 110 volt outlet on this to make it plug and play?
@LarryRichelli
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@@danielbell230 On the AC output just get a power strip and cut it's wire and strip them and connect them to the inverter. Very easy.
This is likely the best video on the topic and is a must watch for everyone.
The price, output, etc. comparisons were awesome to have. Saves us time, thanks Will!
Thanks a ton for the apples to apples comparison in such a tight video. If possible, I'd like to replace my grid power by breaking up my main box into two 30 amp RV plug sub-panels... And plugging diy systems into them.. like I currently have for my generator, but for the full house, not just the major circuits I have now. I'm hoping this is possible, instead of a fully attached expensive full house system.
You know if you live in a small home or even a semi small camper and don't plan on moving it much. Your setup is amazing. The biggest thing between the 2 which you take some sacrifice is portability. The real question is, how do you plan to use it? Is portability a big issue? How much power do you really need? 5,000w steady is pretty amazing, and if you need that? Great! I really do like your alternative setup. You know another great way to make your system more portable is making a custom wooden case for it. Which with a little skill and lots of KZread, that would make it all 1 piece unit and you can make it pretty durable and put on larger wheels allowing you to move it around much easier. I really do wish and I get which is a big part of your video, is not being able to upgrade the battery storage without being forced to use EcoFlow only. So much of these solar panel kits are getting better and better and prices and portability will help you get a great unit you want, but not have to worry too much about putting all this stuff together especially if your someone that isn't very electrically inclined. I believe there will be easier ways and quicker and better setups in the future where your average Joe Blow that may not know much or nothing at all about solar and charging setups and be able to get what they need in medium scale setups without getting too overly whelmed and not spending a ton of cash to get what they actually need. I love your setup my brother! I wish someone would just make the proper connector and a controller that would make the EcoFlow believe it is using one of its own batteries when it is using a DIY Battery pack or even another brand and still make it all work.
Love your experience!
Great video ! I had this type of system in mind about a year or so back when you were discussing "rack" systems. Unless you're going for "pretty" mine will be in a box, so why not DIY and as Tim Taylor the Tool Man would say, "MORE POWER".
Awsome video, please do more easy build alternatives to All in 1 solar generators. Looks like I'm spending time on the EF4 website 😆
I think they are targeting different markets. The ecoflow is designed as an all in one system for RVs, boats, etc... It is much harder to move the DIY system. For home system, you really need a lot more like a transfer switch or interlock etc...
@cwr8618
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We’re getting 16 panels installed tomorrow with a transfer switch. Need to figure out a garage storage system. Curious about interference and how to size a DIY system like this
Nice job Will looking at things from a different perspective to help more people get into solar, possiblity saving lives!
Your channel continues to help all of us. Your good thinking continues to impress me. I was right in my observation that you are a strong will, pun intended.
Nice video and yes there is certainly more power in a DIY system but there is something to be said for having a compact all in one purposely designed unit.
Have you ever explained the difference between 12v, 24v, 48v systems? That seems to always stump me when I think about exploring a diy system. Love the content!
@ex8280
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I'm sure you figured this out, but he has videos on this.
The one thing that you never mention is that most of the generic MPP based inverters are not FCC Class B or CE certified, so they may generate interference into radios, TVs and audio components. Most of the big names like Victron, Schneider, etc. are certified, as well as Ecoflow, Bluetti, etc.
@koborkutya7338
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that is useful to know (certification type to ensure no interference) thanks
@crinabobo7412
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@@koborkutya7338 these are sponsored products, all come from China, i doubt they are as sturdy as Victron. But its hard to know , the names of there companies do not say anything, I asume its generic cells from China put togheter with a name on them. Lion energy sells prismatic batteries in gheir boxes, but they are backed by Costco forever return if they fail. I have a hard time to trust these new brands without solid warranty. And keep in mind all these inverters are transformless, which could mean short life. I think a solid transformer inverter would outlast all these printed board items
@koborkutya7338
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@@crinabobo7412 LF inverters have significant idle consumption as a drawback. Besides, i work in a similar industry (not power electronics itselft but using components from there) and you really have a hard time to tell what is China-made - practically everything is China-made. It used to be cheap and we are starting to pay for that now, we (Western developed countries) outsourced producing to them.
@crinabobo7412
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@@koborkutya7338 If you open up a Victron inverter and see the parts. You will realize that ghey can be replaced on the board, the newer printed board ones under no circumstance. The power draw is not so big can be compensated with an additional solar panel. You can run a transformer based inverter techically forever if not abused. Regarding the capacitor only versions. 5 to 10 years.
@rightright6582
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Thia sounds like a cd player 52x , then they came up with the 100x.... It is all about fire, security....no ce not fcc, no ul....i would not trust my dog i side an RV with this....
Great video. This is almost exactly what I was going to build for my next project with the EG4 now that they're finally back in stock. Maybe even designing or buying a box with wheels for "bug out"
As always, great information, great price, and so much power! You're the Best, Will!
Beautiful! Can you do an episode of what backup components to have in case of an EMP?
Hi Will, I am very new to all of this and I really enjoy your relaxed presentations , we recently purchased a Delta Pro with all the gear but perhaps next time we will scour your work for a better knowledge before jumping off the cliff. Thanks again
This video was probably more relevant a year ago, but the Ecoflow Delta Pro can now be purchased new for under $2000 (Costco) and refurbished units are even less being around $1600. Yea, expanding the battery can be more costly and the 1600 watt solar PV input is quite limited, but the ease of use and portability are hard to beat.
@mr.c6674
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You can say the same in another 1, 2, 3, .... years. Why point out the cost is less now than it was a year ago? That's true for most things we purchase in life.
Are there any companies that sell used equipment? Im living in a box truck on disability and I can't afford the rack batteries but I need electricity for my medical needs. Any ideas are greatly appreciated. Thanks for all your hard work and dedication.
Hi Will. The Delta Pro will charge at over 3000w A/C if you connect it to a 220v-240v output at 15 amps into the A/C input in the back of unit. Excellent video's.
Great stuff, think this sort of information is what lots of people need. Might seem simple but it needs spelling out, and you have that credibility.
This channel is awesome I’m learning all kinds of important information love it
There is also shipping cost for almost all server rack batteries and those inverters. So couple of hundred bucks more. And almost every other month Costco sells Ecoflow Delta Pro for $3,000 including some other goodies. So, cost comparison is way closer than most people think. Lastly but very important, you have to cover those exposed terminals of those 48v batteries, particularly if you have kids in the house. Touching those terminals with two hands can literally kill someone.
We have gone through 3 Delta max in the last few months. We had 2, 200 watt panels wired in series. Wen the sun came up at about noon we were getting something like 50 watts. We found that if you unplug the solar and plug it back in. It would jump to about 250. That may last a couple hours or till the next day. After the 3rd unit and me making video's of what was going on, Ecoflow called it quits and won't send us another or try to find out why it kept doing it. We even bought 2 other panels of a different make and still had the problem. They are going to give us 80% of our purchase price back.
Learning so much. I have 2 100 watt solar panels, originally I connected to 12 volt lead acid, and 40 amp epever charge controller, and 10 amp switch panrl I bought Ecoflow River. I disconnected lead acid battery, and got XT60 connectors. I'm in the UK (Brexit was such a bad bad thing), I really struggle to find (wire)/cable, and none of the shops(stores) reference AWG 😢