This was called a Musette when I was in the French Foreign Legion, a day pack for 24 hour patrols or an ambush when you went out with the bare basics usually just weapons, ammo, grenades, flares, 24 rations, water, poncho and cam netting. You did not expect to sleep. We had a F1 pack which was about 70L for longer marches. I think the standard full pack for the French Army is now the F2 "sac a dos" which looks excellent compared to the crap we were issued in the 80's. Merci Mec.

@southernlandsolo7839

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for adding to the knowledge Tommy. The French Foreign Legion was a pretty tough outfit, so I have heard bro.

@michaelrajnacok7980

Жыл бұрын

Fellow slav, could you answer my question? Can you carry F1 tent on this F2 "musette"? I think the bottom straps are too short...(dont own backpack yet😅) thanks

I really like that F2 French pack, simple and rugged. Keep up the good work Dave!!

@southernlandsolo7839

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Miceal. Great pack for the money.

Have this and the smaller day pack as well, getting almost daily use in beach environment for gear and warm jackets etc once the weather changes at dusk. Also have the alpine pack as well as the huge F2 , as my collection grows, the surplus French gear is rugged and works very well for me

@southernlandsolo7839

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Joe. These French Army bags are built bullet proof.

I really like the look of the F2 pack. I'll have to keep an eye out for one. Great video Dave. The Czech m60 is also a great budget pack aswell. Cheers

@southernlandsolo7839

3 жыл бұрын

I have seen the M60 in some of your vids. Looks like a decent pack Zeb

It is very similar to the American A.L.I.C.E pack. I personally am a firm believer in military surplus. It’s very modular as well very easy to add things to it. Like you said it’s designed to take a beating. Great video Dave

@southernlandsolo7839

3 жыл бұрын

The waterproof/resistant fabric on it is nice too. If you find one that still has that fabric in good shape it is great for the rainforests.

All i hear is korg from the avengers. Great video man i got an F2 coming in the mail.

@southernlandsolo7839

2 жыл бұрын

haha. Thanks for the comment William

Wot a good idea about the flaps on the outside to keep it water tight I didn't think of that thankyou 🙂

@southernlandsolo7839

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for commenting bro.

i have the current F2 ruck, it comes with upgraded shoulder straps and a sternum strap, but you could make one easy enough. I only use mine as a day pack. you are right about the strap buckles ... i have thought about sewing on quick release buckles just to make it easier to get into.

@southernlandsolo7839

3 жыл бұрын

Interesting. I did not know they came with those modifications. Good find.

Nice Dave, had mine since my early teens. A mate of mine got one a few years earlier from Army and Outdoors that had fastex type snap buckles instead of the threaded ones, which would be much easier to use.

@southernlandsolo7839

3 жыл бұрын

Good packs. I may change to the fastex buckles as well if I can find one. The metal buckles on mine are solid but slow things down when trying to move quickly.

You got a great bargain with the pack. I like the army surplus too. Cheaper, more practical and more robust. In fact I've been through a few packs but still have the ex army ones! Great chat, thanks.

@southernlandsolo7839

3 жыл бұрын

Can't beat them I reckon : ) Do you have a favorite pack you use in Scotland?

@northernembersoutdoors1045

3 жыл бұрын

@@southernlandsolo7839 hi mate, I have an ex army but no label, I think it was Dutch, for the price and practicably it's brilliant. In terms of brand we have one called Osprey. The bag I have is the longest I've ever had in terms of time and it's had a lot of use, so it's pretty robust. Would definitely get another. Cheers.

@southernlandsolo7839

3 жыл бұрын

@@northernembersoutdoors1045 Osprey have a good rep out here too. I have a Dutch Army Patrol Pack in DPM camouflage, similar to British DPM. Great pack!

It's a nice wee pack and it works well as a day sack. I must admit that I replaced the shoulder straps. I altered mine to sit on a Swedish LK35 frame for longer trips.

@southernlandsolo7839

3 жыл бұрын

The straps can definitely be improved upon. Sounds like you found a good solution bro.

@beezwaks

2 жыл бұрын

Orraman, would you be able to show nor explain how you mounted to the frame?

@orraman5427

2 жыл бұрын

@@beezwaks I cut the straps leaving a tail of around 3"(75mm) at the top and sewed in a 30mm buckle. At the bottom of the straps I unpicked the seam on the rucksack and sewed in 25mm metal loops. By doing this I can fit surplus straps which have 25mm tails (I use Swedish LJ35? straps from the medic version of the LK35 which are padded) and use it as a daypack. I simply use 2 pieces of 25mm webbing to fix the buckles at the top of the pack to the top of the frame and tie the loops I sewed in at the bottom of the pack to the frame with 550 cord. It sounds a lot more complicated than it actually is. You could simply lace the original straps through the frame, tie the big D ring to the frame at the top and tie in the two strap adjusters to the sides of the frame. I hope that helped, all the best.

Army surplus is a great option mate. Tough as nails. Thanks for sharing and a great review.

@southernlandsolo7839

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for your comments bro. I am really enjoying your channels vids as well.

Like the look of that - never heard of it. I was after a metal framed rucksack like an LK70 but they are rare as rocking horse sh*t. Have an old British metal framed SAS one from the 80's which is 110litres I think. Have slightly modified it (wider straps, Royal Marine waist belt) but if I ever filled it I would probably need an extra body. Not as fit as I used to be. I think yours is more practical.

@southernlandsolo7839

3 жыл бұрын

"an extra body", lol, you and me both Chris lol.

Nice review, I and some of my friends are going to buy that backpack, but the plastic version

@southernlandsolo7839

Жыл бұрын

I'm not familiar with the plastic version. Sounds interesting.

@avenavenn5542

Жыл бұрын

@@southernlandsolo7839 It is a version that replaces metal with plastic and the straps are padded. I suppose it would be the most modern version for some unit, you don't see many but there are

@southernlandsolo7839

Жыл бұрын

@@avenavenn5542 I have seen a review of that modernised version. Looks like a big improvement on my one.

Looks nice backpack, but can be a bit hard to find in a reasonable price.

@southernlandsolo7839

3 жыл бұрын

They have doubled in price since I bought mine. A lot of outdoors KZreadrs are using them and the price seems to reflect that.

Where'd you find the F2? And how does this F2 compare to the "Austrian Alice" that are currently available?

@southernlandsolo7839

2 жыл бұрын

Army And Outdoors, Auckland had these F2's in stock. They may still have some or may get another batch pass through. I can't give any comparisons with the Austrian Alice as I have never used one. I used the small and medium US Army Alice Packs in the NZDF. Compared to the US Alice, I prefer the F2 as a civilian pack. I have found it more comfortable which is a big plus for old backs like mine.

@beezwaks

2 жыл бұрын

@@southernlandsolo7839I figured as much. I'll ask them if theres any tucjed away somewhere. With the F1 andnF2 look like they'd both be great witha little modding/ upgrade of the harnesses. Namely a kidney/waist belt and some better foam on the should straps. Do you think ot would be possible to mount one to an external frame?

@southernlandsolo7839

2 жыл бұрын

@@beezwaks I think it could mount to an external frame with some paracord or strap and buckles. At the top rear are a steel D-Ring plus two small steel rings that should tie to the top of a frame. At the bottom rear are two straps and buckles which may tie onto a frame.

На мой взгляд, этот рюкзак не слишком удобен для переноски вещей, и прилегает к спине хуже, чем бельгийский ранец такого же обьема.

@southernlandsolo7839

Жыл бұрын

Good points. It is not expensive and is very robust so it will last a long time. For comfort it is not good. For a bush craft day walk or camp trip, it is quite suitable. Thanks for the ideas Alexey.