Different jokes for different folks. I've never had a bad Buck although I would be skeptical of the hatchet. I observed that he chopped the wood without a solid base underneath. NO axe would work acceptably with the log bouncing up and down. Learned that in Boy Scouts.

I was pretty bummed when the tip of my Compadre Knife broke straight off when I dropped it from about a foot in the air onto a log. I'm in the camp that loves the red look, though. Differnet looking tools are worth encouraging makers to look into doing. Also, the thin, one peice steel hatchets that every company seems to be making right now are usually pretty average at woodcutting, in my experience.

@carlb.heiseyjr.2686

8 жыл бұрын

+CedricAda Gear and Outdoors agree. the blade profile/blade geometry of the a hatchet is not conducive to chopping at all.

it would definitely help if you actually knew how to swing a "hatchet" let alone had aim worth a shit.

@altecdarpa21

7 жыл бұрын

amen, this guy is a joke, every time I see one of his videos in the related bar and click its a total cringe fest, hes a weekend warrior internet forum survival wannabe, he has no right giving advice on anything other then how not to use tools.

@tigerpisces5506

4 жыл бұрын

My colonial pioneer genes are doing summersaults watching these SF Techies that lost their jobs when they went to Asia. So now that have to sell this Chinese sh*t on YouNubes. Striking in the same spot chops no wood. I heated with 4-6 cords of wood every year. I would have froze to death if I chopped wood like these fools. Splitting kindling with a f*cking knife? How moronic. You all need to know you split logs with a maul and a wedge. Your all fools. I used an hatchet like this size as personal defense tomahawk! We love the full size axes as throwing weapons too. Get a chain saw! So ridiculous. He probably has a 35’ RV as his camping shelter. You know what this $100 knife is good for? Doing a endotracheal tube insertion. Aka C*t a Thr*^t. If these so called “Green Horns” were in trying to pioneer in the American West like we did in 1840’s? The Natives would have stole the horses, burned their wagons, rapped their women, kidnapped the children; used their corpses as targets for arrows, took their $200 knives and scalped them with them, while they were still alive. My 3 great grandfather got that initiation by the Utes in Utah.

@wesrichards6168

4 жыл бұрын

@Ez G or you man lover.

4:49 -You guys sound like the jocks talking shit about the nerds in the locker room in high school. Very entertaining.

How do you feel about the new Compadre Series. (2019 series not these red ones). You seem biased against Buck just wondering why? By the way Michigan is not part of the Northwest

A froe is used for making shingles from wood for your man cave in the woods and any reason you need thin slats of wood for building or make small planks etc it’s actually a great tool for a true homesteads that build everything from scratch.I do have to say the old school froe’s are made totally different with a thinner blade and looks more like a weird axe when held by the handle. I do love 5160 steel and was happy to see them get rid of the red blades for Greyson black instead they look so much better. I do like the knife but hate when a company put a miniature recurve in the blade just makes it harder to sharpen for really no reason.

Hello, I would like to know what brand of glove appears in 6:58? Thanks for your attention and congratulations on the great videos you kindly share with us.

No surprise on the performance of the Buck hatchet. There isn't enough mass in the head. Lacking the mass you need to swing it at a higher speed to get the same kinetic energy. As you found, swinging it harder is very tiring.

@canofspam4337

6 жыл бұрын

Thank you for saying hatchet

I've used the compadre froe and the hatchet before. Hate the hatchet, but love the froe. In places like Southern Alabama and Mississippi, it is like a jungle here most of the year until the first real freeze, and the brush is usually woody and always wet, and this the buck compadre froe makes for a great machete. I don't often have the space to get a full swing in dense brush with a traditional machete, but with this froe I can choke-up on the handle and though it's shorter, it's heavier, and it will clear through the worst of brush more efficiently than a traditional machete. As for the hatchet, complete garbage, ended up with an injury to my elbow trying to use it limbing a dead tree. I got an 8 dollar hatchet from harbor freight to replace it until I could afford a gransfors bruks small forest axe. Of course the gransfors bruks is a dream to use, absolutely amazing, but when I sharpened the harbor freight hatchet, it was infinitely more serviceable than the buck compadre hatchet.

@thealarmclock9307

Жыл бұрын

I'm from mobile county and I was looking at the froe for just that reaskn

the froe however you spell it .is the tool used to split shakes ( wooden shingles ) for roofing .usually cedar .

My thoughts are get a TOPS Wolf Pax2 and a large knife. Good to go. Or budge minded a Schrade SCHAXE 2L and the SCHF52 Great review.

@gideonstactical

8 жыл бұрын

+Wingman115 Not a bad idea. The Pax2 chops way better for sure.

I picked up the camp knife at the Blade Show last year in Atlanta and i really like it. Feels great in the hand and does all of the around camp cutting i need. Plus it looks really cool in my opinion . I also have the izula in fire ant red so i like that kind of thing. I pair it with my Esee 6. I have a slight knife addiction so when i saw it i had to buy it and im glad i did. Thanks for the great and honest reviews.

@gideonstactical

8 жыл бұрын

No problem, thanks for watching!

Well you could put a better edge on the axe/hatchet like I did and it's chops wood better than anything I've used before. And I also have big hands and the camp knifes handle is perfect even with gloves and the froe is just a beast at splitting

Do you have a review on the Buck Selkirk? I'd love to see what you think. I just picked one up for $45 USD ($60 CAD). My thinking is, 420HC (similar to the gerber strongarm), with a very functional/adaptable sheath, bonus firesteel/whiste, and micarta handle. I thought I saw a review of it by you, but I couldn't find it when I looked.

I loved this video. I'd like to see some more combo/kit videos. What do you carry together and why? You totally talked me out of a neck knife btw. Folder's are really the better option.

A froe is a very old tool made mainly for splitting such as kindeling and shingles. Mset have a 90 degree handle.

We certainly DO use them up here in the NW and I'd bet, being that CO is Timber country too that there's a LOT of old coots with Froes right around you and you never knew what the heck they were... A Froe is what everybody is essentially "making" or emulating when they baton... In wood-working a typical Froe will have a blade with a handle (like an axe handle, it's often a wedged in round dowel type handle) that's perpendicular to the cutting blade which actually is pointed at the ground. SO basically you have what looks like a hockey-stick or whatever with a wide, flat, thick top spine and a "splitting maul" style highly wedged cutting edge that you set on a round, hold onto the handle and take a mallet and smack that spine. Anyone who works with big pieces of wood ought to have a Froe around and there's nothing short of the hydraulic splitting maul that'll make kindling faster. They're amazing tools and I'm surprised you've not heard the term before. We heat our house with wood and I'm not sure what I'd do without my Froe. Too Bad Buck didn't make an ACTUAL Froe, just a weirded up Golok Machete. The Spine needs to be about 2-3X as thick and have a very pronounced "wedge" shape to the blade.

@charlescannon6775

7 жыл бұрын

Nor Wester mr. Wester I should have read your comment before making my own I believe you described it better than I. although I never used one for kindling.

@justicar5

7 жыл бұрын

reporting in from the UK, we call them Froes as well, and your description of the right angle handle is the case here as well, also what the hell where they thinking at those prices?! Hell for that you could get a Varsetuleka Skrama, the Husqvarna axe and a Terävä Jääkäripuukko knife, all of which are great.

@rickfisher5208

6 жыл бұрын

Grew up in the Adirondacks and never heard of a froe! Just because he hasn't heard of a tool to split wood doesn't mean he can't judge it! He read it's disruption prior to testing and understood it was a baton tool.

@dylanmcwhirter9844

6 жыл бұрын

Rick Fisher canadian never seen a fuckin froe in my life

@MrIgottap

5 ай бұрын

@@rickfisher5208I mean, he DID call the hatchet an ax. So there’s that too.

You seem to have come to this one with a lot of negative ideas about them which may have serious effected your ability to be objective. I have a lot of respect for your oppinions most of the time, but this time your review seems tainted.

@canofspam4337

6 жыл бұрын

It's more of an hatchet or something But they actually look really cool But an real axe is twice as big You don't chop down a tree using a knife But for clearing a trail It would probably work

@jamesaritchie1

6 жыл бұрын

These things are pure junk, and I absolutely love Buck knives. Honestly, I don't know a single experienced woodsman who likes anything about them. The hatchet simply doesn't have the heft it needs to do the same job my five dollar hatchet from Ace Hardware does. The froe is the silliest item. It isn't even a froe, it's just a really horribly designed knife. Someone took a look at batoning, and decided to make a froe with a straight handle. Trouble is, this defeats the entire purpose of a real froe, which is leverage, not splitting ability. Really, I have no idea why Buck decided to put a straight handle on what is supposed to be a Froe, and the batoning theory is all I can come up with. But whatever the reason, it's the worst piece of gear I've seen in years. Had they put a real froe handle on this, it probably would have been great. As is, no one who knows anything about splitting wood, or how a real froe works, will even tough this. . .thing. I do know leverage is what makes a real froe work so wonderfully, and you get zero leverage with a straight handle. The knife isn't terrible, but it's nowhere near as good as several other Buck knives, so why would I buy this one? This is even truer when the other two pieces are garbage, and they are garbage.

@jonny8688

6 жыл бұрын

go look online of the hatchet etc look at some reveiws haha.. Almost everyone likes the compadre series and btw since the axe head is small you have to keep that in mind. Its like i take a two handed axe that weighs 20kilos and says it chops way better then this small forest axe, well of course it will do since it is a lot bigger/heavier. About the froe, its a good looking and good working big knife. It does baton really well and it does definitely chops awesome as well wich in my mind does not deem it meaningless but if you say so hmm? If you do not have any use for Bucks version of their froe then don't buy it, but i like what they did with their froe and how they thought their froe should work. If you dont like that concept its not for you but for me its a great cool and different tool. Btw you do know that there are different versions of a "Froe" out there right? You have a kindling froe wich usually have a straight handle etc. There are many Froes that do indeed come with a straight handle not only this Buck..

@OGFreedom1776

5 жыл бұрын

Can you blame him? I can’t trust anyone who pushes the knife down the ferro rod towards where the tinder would be risking knocking it out of the way

outstanding! it's great you're out in the field with your dad

Historically, I've known the froe to be used for making beams or planks from a large log. Takes a great deal of beating, but because it was made with a very pronounced cutting wedge, it did the job better than other available options.

since I'm not to hot about the red coating would I be able to anodize the steel or would it not work out with the 1095?

@FeralAndrew-c6s

8 жыл бұрын

I meant 5160 my bad

Thanks for all the information about the Bucks.

Great video! Agree with your setup! Love the husqvarna hatchet

@gideonstactical

8 жыл бұрын

It rocks for sure

Really like you compared some things that are very similar. It helps alot for those of us without much gear.

@gideonstactical

8 жыл бұрын

That is what I always want to help with. Thank for watching!

For what need I a splitting knife when I have already a camp axt???

This guy loses all credibility at 2:32

Great review. And great extra effort in your suggested alternative system. A value "Nessmuk trio" system could consist of a Corona folding saw, Schrade SCHF56L, and a Schrade SCAXE2L. (Saw to replace the froe) Cheers!

@benkempf

2 жыл бұрын

my schrade froe broke the 3rd time i used it. snapped right at the rivet hole... was battoning with a piece of pine... that was 2 years ago... havent heard back from schrade despite their warranty...

Hey brother great vid! What do you think is the problem with the hatchet to make it not chop very well? Grind? steal? weight? thanks!

@gideonstactical

8 жыл бұрын

+jeph4life It was the grind and weight. Thanks for watching.

Thanks for the review. I was gonna buy the froe and the knife (the new nice black ones not the red ones) I have a xlarge hand so your warning on the handle just saved me money. I hate when my pinky is restricted and for some reason that actually hurts my hand. So thanks man.

I appreciate your thumbs down on the hatchet based upon cutting performance. Weight, balance, and edge will affect the cutting. However, you failed to compare the steel toughness, which would affect the ability to withstand chipping. 5160 steel ranks very high, slightly tougher than even 3V while 1055 ranks close to the bottom. Therefore, the comparison between the two hatchets must include a comparisons between the steels. Although I may not buy the Buck hatchet due to its performance, there is no way I buy a hatchet with 1055 steel.

The axe probably doesn´t have enough weight in the head. At least that seems to be reason why it doesn´t chop well IMO.

@gideonstactical

8 жыл бұрын

I would agree

good review Aaron, I was looking at that camp knife a while back, I just couldn't look past the red...i know i could strip it and what not but I wasn't looking for another project knife.

@gideonstactical

8 жыл бұрын

Totally understand.

Since I don't have a youtube channel I am always careful with my words and how I say anything on someone's channel and reviews. Not meaning to sound argumentative but your expectations of the hatchet seemed to be a little overboard compared to it's real intended use. It's a very lightweight hatchet used to handle lightweight jobs and if you had rolled the tree you were cutting with it earlier like you did with the Froe, I feel you would have made it through. Just my 2c. I have a lot of backpacking experience in Montana and survival training with the Air Force and I hunt all over Montana where I live. I can understand your point if it is the primary homebase camp axe but then most people I know have a bigger....closer to full size axe in a primary camp. I have read in reviews that most really like the Buck as a backpack hatchet. I'm sure it all depends where a person is using it and how far they carry it. I guess this is comparative to my backpack shovel. I wouldn't want to use it to dig my truck out of a snow bank but it works (plus required in camp in Montana) for lightweight camping. I feel this Hatchet would do the same while saving size and weight. Btw, that is definitely not Aspen...it appears to be lodgepole pine.

@alexanderkavanaugh881

4 жыл бұрын

Thank God someone else noticed that its not even a god damn decidous tree hahaha

@MattP-BandB

3 жыл бұрын

I watch this channel to learn how NOT to do things. I have never seem such pathetic techniques applied before by someone who thinks they’re an expert. It’s pretty much a gag channel.

@Horde334

3 жыл бұрын

@@MattP-BandB His channel is a great recommendation to people if you want to teach them how to not use sharp objects properly though i'd argue his worst video he's done is "why neck knives suck" the title acts as if its going to have actual facts behind it when in reality its only opinions and that's it.

GT, why does the hatchet not work? Really want a full tang hatchet. I'm going to try the fro.

@gideonstactical

8 жыл бұрын

The grind and weight. Instead of it focused on the head it is distributed throughout the axe.

Ive seen this "system" on amazon and liked the look, but thought that axe looked to be a crappy chopper due to the thickness. Nice video, thanks for posting.

Axe, understad. Froe, that is not a lanyard whole, so that should not be the consideration of the evaluation. Overall, I think this is a good system.

Always good videos Brotha.

I would like to see the chopping test with the area you are trying to chop, resting on a solid piece of wood. Rather than chopping it while it is in mid air. At least to see if the results differ.

Hey Aaron, I put in my order for a Ratmandu a week ago. I was wondering could you give me a rough estimate on when I could expect it? Thanks.

@gideonstactical

8 жыл бұрын

+GoldenTruth I bought mine second hand so not sure.

These reviews are helpful, but the comparisons are even more helpful.

@gideonstactical

8 жыл бұрын

I always try to compare whenever possible

Great review. You saved me from a purchase disappointment. I'm a fan of Buck Knives, they make some of the most iconic, durable outdoors knives in the world at a good price. Sadly they fell short on these.

I enjoyed your review and would have to say I agree with your take on the Buck system. I've owned and carried a Buck 110L for a while and consider it to be one of the best folding knives made. That said, when I wanted a "hatchet" I didn't go with Buck. I chose a tomahawk with a 22" handle as my chopping tool for many reasons 1) the head is removable (a very good feature for versatility) 2) the handle can be readily made in wooded areas (if lost or damaged) 3) the longer working arc of a tomahawk makes it cut as well as an axe with a 20" handle (I've compared). As far as a "Froe" (we use that word in the south too i.e. "dull as a Froe") I've always used my knife or tomahawk alternately for those purposes (to save a little weight).

@brianmccann666

8 жыл бұрын

I agree. With the right Tomahawk, you can Chop, Slice, Split, carve, etc... It all depends on your skill level with a certain tool.

Froes usually have a perpendicular handle, they were used mainly for making wooden shingles.

@rcash3625

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly... that thing looks like a Kukri.... Just get a kukri instead lol

@escapetherace1943

Жыл бұрын

@@rcash3625 looks like a Japanese nata (japanese hatchet) look it up! It's actually a 1 for 1 copy of a nata they just called it a froe to be original

I keep trying to find something better for chopping, but I keep going back to the Silky Ono. It's ugly but it works so well.

I hate coated knives. I have yet to run into one that doesn’t feel like the coating affects the cutting.

hes never heard of a froe, but is trying to give advice on bush tools? lol

@garageman_

8 жыл бұрын

+RogueFoxX No kidding lmao

@jamesaritchie2

8 жыл бұрын

+RogueFoxX Tell me someone who uses a froe as a bush tool in this day and age. Well, other than me. But I'm an old timer. I think I was born five years before the invented the froe.

@twigglykevin

6 жыл бұрын

no shit rogue. obviously has no knowledge of bush tools..or old school hand tools for that matter,which is to expected when tactical is in the channel name. these yups have more money than brains for the most partand just buy shit because its new or a fad. i have alot of faith in buck knives (not so much with todays day and age because the bottom line tends to outweigh the quality and craftsmanship of products. however i have an old buck folder cant remember which model but ill be the third generation its gone through

@twigglykevin

6 жыл бұрын

im an old timer too than eh? im 26 ive been around lmao your what mid 30's mabe pushin 40. definatley NOT an old timer and definately not born before the froe you fucking idiot. how do you think they made planks and boards on a small scale (homesteaders for example) in the 1800's the majority couldnt go down to lowes and pick up a lift of 2x4.give your fucking head a shake bud and try doing a bit of reading..scratch that people dont read anymore they watch.

@twigglykevin

6 жыл бұрын

im havin a busch as we speak :)

I love the looks of this set I wish they were equally functional as good looking

I bought a newer version of the Buck Comoadre Froe on sale, (By itself, $72) doesn’t have that red finish. I really like it. Has a canvas/resin handle similar to G10. But no lanyard hole, still! I looked at the axe, just from the feel and balance I knew it wasn’t for me, not balance and no weight at the end. Can’t hammer with it either. I’ll be picking up that Husqvarna axe for sure

@pops55650

4 жыл бұрын

*Husqvarna hatchet

is there any way to mod the hatchet to make it work better? like maybe regrinding the head

@gideonstactical

8 жыл бұрын

+kydd666 No it is too light in the head that is the problem with most full tang axes.

@elcavi44

7 жыл бұрын

Being a SERE trained Marine Scout Sniper I can see already that the 106 was designed more for limbing and light duty as well as game prep..or even for finer tasks..the steel is excellent for multiple life times of use and the color is unique and classy in its own, and in reality it is good for locating it in low light or if your eyes became injured..I wouldn't doubt if the 106 didn't have the BOS heat treat...take a look back to Buck's old 106, I think the new model is also similar in design..

Sounds like you have the means about Buck knives. I can perform differently about an Axe.

My local Murdoch's received these and I checked them out the day they got them in. I really wasn't impressed with any of them, but I do agree the knife would be O.K., if it was all you could afford. Thanks for your honesty. It's one reason I keep watching!

@gideonstactical

8 жыл бұрын

+Dano DeMano So glad to help and I always try to keep it real.

I have a buck thug in 5160 . one light side baton thru a 3" limb and it took a twist that would not spring back from. I grew up with Buck but I believe they just sit on their name and history and don't keep up with the times.

"The axe reminded me of something in your kid's Fisher-Price tool-kit, and that's about how well it chopped." bahahahahaha :D Well said.

I'm looking at possibly getting the camp knife. If I don't have a problem with the handle size it looks like it would be a good purchase. Am disappointed that the other two items didn't function as designed. From what I heard you say, the quality in the product is there but it appears that the functionality of them isn't at least for the axe and really for the set as a whole. Great review, keep up the good work and God bless!

@gideonstactical

8 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much my friend!

I feel my age whenever somebody gets on and never heard of a froe before. Froes were used by everybody all over the country from the pioneering days all the way up into the mid-1900s. At one time, it was the only tool available to produce wooden shingles. The buck froe is nonstandard, as normally a froe would have a 3-foot handle mounted perpendicular to the blade and was used in the same manner as you would baton. with the grain; as the tool is more or less useless cutting cross-grain. As far as the hatchet goes, it is too light. Hatchets that are the same thickness all across do not carry enough weight to be effective choppers. The knife is ok, the knife is pretty good.

On a budget: Mora Pro S (13$) Fiskars X7 (23$) or Husquarna 13 inch (40$, much better steel, may be worth it) And for the big blade i would take something with an actual tip, so it has more uses than just batoning - Kershaw Camp 10 (33$). For 69/86 bucks I get a great setup, that can do everything I want. I´d personally go with the Husquarna hatchet, because the steel on the Fiskars is really poor and tends to chip in cold conditions. Plus with the wooden handle it is much nicer in look and feel. You could also argue about getting another knife, but I do own a Mora Pro S, I put it through a lot of hard use including batonig, and it is more than strong enough, considering that you also have probably the best small machete out there in this kit.

@brianmccann666

8 жыл бұрын

Heck if you want to splurge, okc Rtak2 10.5" blade...awesome chopper.

@canofspam4337

6 жыл бұрын

Granfors bruks And a mora Bushcraft

I had to replay 3 times the part about "in the northwest like Michigan and Wisconsin" to see if I was hearing that correctly. I live about 30 minutes from Mount Rainier National Park in Washington. This is the real deal northwest. Isn't Michigan considered midwest? I've been there but I'm not sure what region it is apart of.

@benkempf298

2 жыл бұрын

lakes region

@MrIgottap

5 ай бұрын

Guy has no idea where he isn’t and wants us to consider his opinions on gear?

Just got :Bark River Bravo III and Senegal. Gonna test them later today. Cant wait.

@michaelstjohn6086

8 жыл бұрын

+BOOSTEDLASER what'd you think?

@BOOSTEDLASER

8 жыл бұрын

+Michael StJohn Well it would require a long post,briefly: B3 is one badass,amazing, normal looking large knife.I doubt it will ever need a sharpening from any "normal use" Just stropping.It is a huge ole hunk of super convexed 3v.I chopped( we) for hours, camp chores and every use you can think of.Still hair shaving sharp. NO chips or rolls.Chops on par with my X7/bruks and similar small hatchet...with 100x better steel that wont ever fail on you.Blows away a Junkalas and other 1095 low budget "choppers" in every way. You get what you pay for. Senegal.Just WoW.Far better chopper then any Sub 300$ small axe/hatchet I know of. Not sure how to describe this, but here is a shot :I find Kukri and other oddly shaped "choppers" have a learning curve for best use and an exact style that works. The senegal is ,I guess,easier to use. Just hack away. It is a beast. steel is good (would have prefered 3v ofcorse). Great draw type knife also. After hours, still super sharp. No damage at all.Bark RIvers HT on this A2 may be the best around. 10 seconds on my strop and it pops hair . Much much much better then my BK21 . This out cuts 8 or so curvey shaped choppers of similar weight I have tested. Only the BR Parang is close. Almost shocking how deep this thing bites. Im sure every knife forum and you tube has 1100 "experts" that will tell you that ANY hatchet small axe out chops any large chopper. Those people have never used a Bark River Senegal /Parang. The B3 is at least as good and in many cases better the axes of similar size. The Senegal is better, period. I find most axes at any price are made of terrible steel. Fact is, any chopping tool :if it constantly goes dull or rolls/chips: this is down time. I had zero down time with these 2 Bark River tools. I doubt in months of use I would. I do not work for Bark River or get paid.I like good stuff that I buy ONCE.Stuff I can count on. To some they are super high cost. Are they worth it? YES On the fence? Buy one,or both. I will never carry a hatchet /small forrest axe ever again.

@michaelstjohn6086

8 жыл бұрын

I also believe in the large knife instead of the ax. As far as the Junglas, I love mine and compared to my 300 dollar GSO 10 I think the Junglas is excellent for half the cost. The buy once cry once way of life is how I view things also, I've bought 5 GSO knives this month! Thank you for replying, I have looked at BR for a long time, only seeing a few reviews of poor fit and finish but excellent blades overall. I will put them at the top of my list, thanks.

Aaron thanks looks like an set to stay clear of. Btw a froe is made for splitting thin sections of wood out of a log. It usually is used for making shingles. The only thing the Buck version has in common with a real froe is the long blade but a froe has an eye with a haft, the haft is 90 degrees from the blade and opposite from the cutting edge. You drive the blade in part way and use the haft to lever the blade to split off a "shingle". A real froe is not good for batoning.

@gideonstactical

8 жыл бұрын

+William Phillips Interesting!

Great review :) I was looking at this but needs some redesign:) Thanks

@gideonstactical

8 жыл бұрын

No problem!

I have just the knife and like it quite well except the red coating. I decided early on from just looking at the hatchet...... not something I thought would be good. The froe. (Old wood splitting tool). Really didn’t see a need for it as a separate tool. I think they now have the knife in some color than red..... yeah....

Check out the Buck Mesa. It is a new knife from Buck that is similar to the 104 camp knife but with Micarta scales and hard plastic sheath. I would love to see you put it head to head with the Gerber strongarm. You can find them at Walmart.

@gideonstactical

8 жыл бұрын

I will look into it.

Great review. After watching the video I can definitely see the problems you pointed out. It appears the hatchet isn't head heavy enough to be effective as a hatchet. The "froe" looks like it would be nice but the price is way too high IMHO. The knife is nice looking but the red paint or whatever they have on it looks stupid.

I'm from Wisconsin, and I can verify that the term "froe" is still used amongst older outdoorsmen. Though, it's pretty much gone extinct from among the younger generation sad to say. Having gone hunting up north since age 11, I'm familiar with the term. My uncles own froes themselves, so when they're chopping wood; I'll get asked "Hand me that froe". Honestly, I think it's cool Buck is bringing back the word, even if the set is disappointing.

@gideonstactical

8 жыл бұрын

+Captain Obvious Thanks for the comment and for watching, sad it is not a good system.

Great review, thanks! I do not trust sets like this, there's always one piece that will not perform as good as the others. It's better to come up with a set of your own. Great points and presentation, thanks again.

Good review. One question: why did the hatchet not cut? Was the edge geometry bad? Was it not sharp? Or was it too light or something? I do agree as well that these tools look like ass.

@McNamEvan

8 жыл бұрын

that's what I was wondering also. would a re-profile and sharpening make the difference?

@soze701

7 жыл бұрын

Probably just a junk piece of wood, I've run into stuff that won't chop worth a shit before...he should have tried his fiskars on the same piece of wood to make sure it was actually the axe and not the piece of wood.

@bradleyh8044

7 жыл бұрын

soze701 Sure, could be a bad piece of wood, but that still makes the conclusions drawn from the tests a bit problematic. Not as problematic as the ass-ugly look of these things, but still...

@walkermorales337

3 жыл бұрын

soze701 it could also be that the piece of wood wasn’t flat against something solid, if you look the wood bends when he hits it which absorbs some of the force of the swing, then again I’m not sure how much force it would absorb

Thanks for sharing your thoughts and opinion on this system from Buck, I appreciate it Aaron..... Great concept, great steel, great leather, not a great design.

@gideonstactical

8 жыл бұрын

+Brad Barber Exactly! Thanks for watching!

I know the red powder coating is unpopular (ugly) but an eyesore that really sticks out would be hard to lose in the woods. I’ve already spray painted logging chains and other tools blaze orange so they’re easier to find during low light conditions in the field.

The knife looks good , but upon closer inspection it has a slight recurve.. and I despise a recurve . They suck to sharpen unless you have some skinny or round hones

Only thing I like is the red powder coat with the wood handles.. kind of wish my esee4 had the red powder coat.. other than that great video you would think Buck would do a little bit better of a job

I have the small buck compadre knife. It works well for me. The hatchet is too lightweight for chopping. I could see that right away didn't buy it.

I appreciate the links! I would like if you did the same with all your videos, esp. if you reference a previous video. Makes it a lot easier for the viewer to find the ones you mention. Great video!

@gideonstactical

8 жыл бұрын

Thanks I am working on it!

The d ring is for a carbiner, the little clips that fit on your belt. This makes it easy to clip them on or off. I make sheaths for many of my blades and usually use a brass ring that I clip on the same way. It works excellent for this type of thing

I live in Wisconsin and ive never heard of a frow🤔

Looks like the axe needs a little more length and a little more weight.

Your alternative pick is more effective and frankly has more eye appeal. Your dad was right the Buck system looks like toys with the red powder coating and the logo cutout. Nice review.

@gideonstactical

8 жыл бұрын

+james hill Totally!

the froe or splitting friends has been around for a while. check out Gransfors Bruks website. this Buck froe and the schrade froe are just revised from old world design and made into a hand held system.

@pauljones2079

7 жыл бұрын

splitting froe*

Did they just mess the blade geometry up on the hatchet?

@gideonstactical

8 жыл бұрын

+Colson Customs No, it is just bad weight distribution

@colsoncustoms8994

8 жыл бұрын

gideonstactical gotcha.

That is abusing. Especially, the hole of Froe is not a lanyard hole! It is Buck Logo!

nice work man

@gideonstactical

8 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Hi. Very nice video. I never was a fan of one tool option and the same for this kind of systems. Axe looks strange and first feeling I had, before I saw all your video, was it doesn't chop well. I think because it's red :) Who want to have a red knife or axe :) Of course it's better than pink. I think my choice could be Fiscars X7, Mora bushcraft black or Schrade schf42 and final Schrade schf43 or Becker BK9.

@gideonstactical

8 жыл бұрын

Those would be good set ups.

My Sp53 gen II will do all of those tasks as well or better then those three and weighs 22oz. If you want a fine blade knife for skinning and feathering just add a Mora backup, at 3oz and $15 they are well worth the price and weight.

@jamesaritchie2

8 жыл бұрын

+Enigma Cipher Well, no, youSp53 will not do all these tasks even remotely as well as these three tools will.

@Kachok80

8 жыл бұрын

James Ritchie I have a good hatchet and the 53 chops slightly better, and yes I have both of them sharp enough to shave with, trust me I have. The 53 batons as well as a BK9, like it was made for it. As to the fine wood work it is slightly more awkward then a small knife but it does it very well, but in truth that is what I carry my Mora backup for. So what exactly am I missing? The 53 also doubles as a machete, granted a short one but it cuts VERY well.

a froe is a tool that showed up around 1575, through out north western Europe. there are a lot of styles from splitting ( batoning) planking ( splitting lumber into lumber) and task specific crafting froes. it is actually the origin of batoning. they are not intended as a chopper. and traditionally do not have any lanyard.

@escapetherace1943

Жыл бұрын

really late reply but this isn't truly a froe it's a 1 for 1 copy of a Japanese hatchet design

idk if the north west is michigan

Have you done any videos on the watches that you wear ? Knife guys like watches and watch guys like knives!

I apologize for the late comment but what a great review!

@kevinharrison6572

8 жыл бұрын

Quick question while I'm on here. Do you think possibly the line between urban and survival/bush craft has been blurred by some manufacturers. By this I mean they can chop wood but the grind is set up as such it can also go through a car door making it a little less effective on wood processing. The reason I ask is I just spent a week on a SCAXE II changing the grind angle so now it's a decent hatchet and in doing so came up with this conclusion.

So what you're saying is.... The axe isn't cutting it?

1. The hatchet doesnt look like it has enough weight in the head. 2. as a knife & tool fan, you should have heard that a Froe is a very old tool used to shape wood for construction of homes, boats, etc., used in conjunction with an Adze.

love the handles

@gideonstactical

8 жыл бұрын

They are cool!

What kind of gloves are you using?

@gideonstactical

8 жыл бұрын

+Jugde S Mechanix gloves

@SHITsk8isgr8

8 жыл бұрын

gideonstactical Thanks. But I was wondering about the yellow leather gloves?

@gideonstactical

8 жыл бұрын

+Jugde S oh Home Depot

@SHITsk8isgr8

8 жыл бұрын

gideonstactical Ahh. Unfortunately we don't have that here in Norway. You wouldn't believe how hard it is to find a pair of good leather work gloves here.

I looked at this system at largest knife store in Tennessee, it’s a gimmick rig! The weight is not sufficient, the knife isn’t so bad. I can’t speak regarding fro, however I think most woodsmen can create better system for less, moreover be more confident in the woods. Dr David

Wooden handle hatchet can be use as a hammer. Advantage too.

The froe is an age old tool, and used to be common in every state out there. In every place that needed things split, even before we had states. What Buck calls a froe, however, is nothing a all like the real thing, and isn't even used the same way. I don't know where Buck got the idea for this set, but they don't even know what a froe is, or how it's supposed to be used. I'm guessing they hope no one else does, either. You might want to look at some images of real froes, and watch one being used. Even if you could use this as a real froe, all three of these items are not only poorly shaped, but they are all just plain butt ugly. What color blind nut had the brilliant idea to use a red powder coat?

Buck asked me to help design one of their new hatchets a few years ago but refused to pay me or pay royalties for my time and labor. This despite the fact that I was responsible for bringing Hultafors/Hults Bruks over to the US in 2014, and helped Hults redesign their handles and re-wrote/edited their first US market axe book. They decided to go the cheap route, so I'm not surprised that this hatchet is less than optimal. Buck is great at making knives, but axes and hatchets are not their forte. Cheers, Jason

Say Heah, You can get a Leather Frog cheap at Battle Horse, That leather belt loop you said that was misding, Also O.K.C. has a red set in 5160

click 7:09 in the video over and over and try not to wince at how close that thing came to your ankle.. be a little more careful with the beaters baton testing when your not used to using them. but keep up the good videos like always!

The title got me dude; it’s just funny

is it just me, or could a Jessica do all those tasks just as good if not better??

nice vid man!

@gideonstactical

8 жыл бұрын

+Bill Evans Thanks!

here in Wisconsin everyone i know who lives around the woods has a froe knife.