Your take on the new update? 😜

@Theferrariguy

2 жыл бұрын

Very good the cars and trucks are fun especially online. However it is way too expensive kinda ridiculous tbh

If the main complaint is you want more, then that's a good thing IMO. Looking to purchase this soon.

@btccisace4827

2 жыл бұрын

Came here to say the same thing. As a BTCC fan, these are are a lot more challenging to drive than a TCR and that licence must not be cheap, I'm happy to pay this time.

@KingP911

2 жыл бұрын

That guy can only complain

@BTCCs

2 жыл бұрын

Watch the Aidan Millward or Jardier videos instead, much better

I would have been happy to pay €60 - €70, but only if they released the all cars and all the tracks for the BTCC in one package. I'm not buying it bit by bit as the content gradually trickles out as there is a large chance that the BTCC content will never be finished, as has often been the case with rF2 DLC in other classes. For me it's all or nothing. rF2 has a very good physics engine with excellent FFB, but it remains, IMO, the most incomplete racing sim available as there are content holes everywhere.

@cyborgbadger1015

2 жыл бұрын

that's my only gripe with RF2, getting full grids.

A lot of people trying to pretend that 2 tracks and 2 cars for $30 is the same price as other sims are really only talking about only one other sim, iRacing. All content together on other sims, we're talking DOZENS of cars and tracks on RaceRoom, ACC, and AMS 2 will run you around $100 each (without a sale of course). And sure, with rFactor 2 you can acquire mods for free, but if you want official content, it can run you almost $400 total. A good chunk of that cost is something you can't really get around if you want to play online, which isn't as active as iRacing either, so the trade off for robust multiplayer options isn't there either. If we're doing the math, there were 8 different cars in the BTCC last year, 8 tracks (we'll say 7 because Silverstone is already available). if they release this piecemeal, $5 a car, $10 per track, that's at least $110 potentially for the 2021 BTCC content, which is bonkers. So let's chill on downplaying the costs here as if they're nothing; the BTCC game on its own would be $50 or $60 at MOST, and they're releasing it in a way that forces those fans to expect to pay twice that over however much time it takes to release all the content. This also doesn't include if they decide to release classic BTCC cars (fingers crossed) in addition to that.

@MaximumProductions01

2 жыл бұрын

A perfect comment if I have ever seen one.. The only DLC I have purchased in support of S397 is the M2 CS (because it's one of very few "race" cars I have drigen) and am looking forward to the 330i M Sport.. But honestly, the barrier of entry is ridiculous considering eligibility for online play is centered around extorting the playerbase for having to buy content they have no intention of driving/racing. rF2 does most everything right, but the multiplayer experience is shambolic because of this. Does anyone know if S397 has commented on fixing their online service??

Cheaper than iRacing, VR support, runs very nice and very good physics. Best sim !

The prices seem fairly normal to what others are charging. My issue is that you might get a better package deal for all BTCC content when it releases with all the cars.

@hugocorreia8039

2 жыл бұрын

The package costs more then the game, they should low the price of the game

Each to their own.I bought it and have already forgotten how much it was, it's really good and for the price of a couple pizza's, garlic bread and coke, well worth it.

@BTCCs

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed!

@berarma

2 жыл бұрын

Right. But we have to be aware of one thing. Hating something gets more views than loving it. A BTCC game would have for sure had a lot of critique, something would have been off for some youtubers. Now we have a very good BTCC simulation built into rFactor 2 and the problem is the price, although it's only a fraction of what iRacing content costs and more reallistic. It's the sad state of clickbaiting on YT.

@brad_owen

2 жыл бұрын

Ain't that the truth

@BTCCs

2 жыл бұрын

@@berarma Very good point - this is clickbait in the extreme. Not convinced the cars were driven other than to capture footage. Striaght up press release wording followed by a strange rant.

Silverstone is already in the game and there are plenty of mod versions of the other tracks to tide people over until official ones are released. I agree the price is steep, but it's comparable to a lot of other sims unfortunately.

It might be me but how the hell do you join multiplayer no matter what I do it says error

I do not know where rFactor will find it's end. rFactor have a lot of problems(AI, content quality inconsistance... well, ton of them...), but I really like direction where it is going right now. At least for game engine sim features. New sound engine is really good. Yep, it requires some content polishing in term of sound balance for the older cars, but its step in right direction. In combination with one of the best VR picture in game(crisp clear picture with good color balance and excelent framerate) and so sweet FFB it gives really high level of enjoyement of pure driving. I found myself entering rFactor more and more often because of it. Not to race, just drive!!!

@jpa3974

2 жыл бұрын

There is something visceral about rFactor's simulation that I can't find in other simulators. When it comes to just driving a car for pleasure it is my favorite simulator.

Cars and tracks are superb. Price is .. definetly high, unfortunately. But not higher as some other sims. Pls stop comparing it to Assetto Corsa in prices, that game isn't in development anymore. By the time the DLCs came out it had the same problems like rF2 - to take on a GT3-race online with all cars you needed to buy.. how many DLCs? With mods it looks great and has many more options.. but the driving is still far behind rF2.

Worth every penny in a sim that drives like RF2

Yep I pulled the trigger and bought the pack including the tracks and cars. Its just awesome. Both cars and especially the tracks are top notch.

@OverTake_gg

2 жыл бұрын

Enjoy it! 😄

The FWD Corolla in particular could be used as training aid for IRL race drivers. I used to have an H22-swapped EK Civic with a Quaife LSD and it drove exactly like the Corolla in rF2. Unbelievable.

Cheaper than iRacing.

@coyy9106

2 жыл бұрын

Great! How's the rFactor online variety by the way?

@Jok3sta

2 жыл бұрын

@@coyy9106 to be fair you dont own anything in iracing but your paying over 1k for all the content. Stop paying your monthly subscription and you have 0 content

@coyy9106

2 жыл бұрын

@@Jok3sta That's the same for any subscription service lmao. I get that by comparison to something like Netflix you don't have to pay extra for the content. I'm not going to die on a hill defending iRacing. But I will argue if someone just says 'x sim is cheaper and therefore better'. That does not do iRacing's unbeatable online justice.

@Bazzookie

2 жыл бұрын

@@coyy9106 except for the fact that the only reason iRacing could get away with their archaic pricing model was due to their monopoly of officially licensed content and laser scanned tracks, but that ship has long since sailed out of port. Laser scanning is pretty much standard for any major sim, as well as officially licensed cars. Every single one of rFactor 2's official tracks are laser scanned, and all of the cars are officially licensed using real data with the added benefit of a physical tire model. On top of that you aren't paying 13 dollars a month just to use the content that you've already payed for in the first place and you have a wealth of free content across the internet and the Steam workshop. In terms of pure simulation, iRacing is dated at best, and pales in comparison to rF2 or ACC, and AC is going to give you as good of a simulation (with better FFB mind you) for way less money and still an ability to play some degree of online racing. The only thing iRacing has on rFactor, or really any other sim for that matter, is it's online infrastructure, and if online racing is that important to you then there's really no choice but to bend over and take it up the ass, otherwise any other sim is a better choice.

I'm happy to pay as long as the content is top notch quality. When everything goes right rfactor 2 is my number one sim, but also the sim I get most frustrated with. It's a love/hate relationship.

i think this is really a test to see how well the BTCC is accepted...the licensing is not cheap and every thing is just over priced these days...but if these BTCC cars are welcomed (which they seenm to be) then i think we'll see the whole package and i think RF2 is the perfect platform for them and could really help RF2 be what it can be...i got the Q2 pack and absolutely love them the tracks are fantastic and cars a joy to drive..this could be what RF2 does,,become the go to servers for BTCC (like ACC and GT3-4) which would rock cause the online is pretty limited in RF2..so im hoping this is the plan overthere at S397...cheers

I'm really enjoying rFactor 2 atm , it feels great using G29 , its looking really good and there seem to be more people in the online lobbies lately too . It's definately a great sim , just has some creases to iron out ;)

Should’ve tried the Next Generation Mod Team cars, they worked loads on tyre models and car models over the years and got it fairly spot on

Worth it for the quality.

Great video. But just quick FYI forza motorsport 7 had BTCC content.

BTCC? HEll Yeah! Well kinda haha. "All" they need is better lightning in game to make the game more life like and not so flat. Raytracing, just do iiiiiittttt! :P

Gezz man, I got nearly five grand in my rig. Who cares about thrirty bucks for a DLC. AC and rF2 are still my #1sims.

@OverTake_gg

2 жыл бұрын

😂😂

I hate rf2's monetization too, not only it's so expensive you need to buy all the cars for a series, for example if you want to enter a gt3 champ you need to buy all the gt3s eventhough you're not gonna drive them

@valter_vava74

2 жыл бұрын

During steam sales you can get ALL GT3 cars, including the M4 GT3, for €18 or €19,00.

@BarkeeperMoe

2 жыл бұрын

Well. AC had the same problem. You needed to buy many DLCs to race in a full GT3-Grid.. nowadays it's not a big problem because it's so cheap, yes.. but back then..

@arda6171

2 жыл бұрын

@@valter_vava74 might be cheap for you but when you convert that to turkish liras its crazy expensive

@valter_vava74

2 жыл бұрын

@@arda6171 yes, I understand and sadly the new commercial policy made this steam summer sale a “big fat nothing”.

Der Preis ist völlig in Ordnung was bezahlt man bei i Racing rfaktor2 ist schon klasse

Two licensed cars and two licensed, laser scanned tracks. That prices seems fair to me. I don't think a comparison to a game that was released almost a decade ago in AC is even the slightest relevant. Even compared to ACC isn't all that applicable since ACC has far more players/sales.

@Jt7166

2 жыл бұрын

@@screennameoflate7788 do you know how much a laser scan costs? Do you know how much licensing costs? Do you know how many DLCs they sell?

It’s really worth it, online is just a meme with 30+ touring cars into t1 at donnington

Only 15% of the video is about the actual content, how it drives etc and that sounds like it was just reading the press release. Some interesting points, but really slack feedback.

ohh , nice

i was hoping for the GR Corolla beeing added to RF2, but no its not the AWD-Hatchback but it seems to be the Toyota Corolla GR Sport? No room for confusion with that naming 😆

i just use the assetto corsa mod. i forget who its by but its banging

The content looks great but RF2 AI is still probably the worst in sim racing. €25 is like AU$40 😱 They are bloody dreaming. Thanks for sharing 👍🏻👍🏻🙃🙃

@valter_vava74

2 жыл бұрын

That's absurdly inaccurate. The AI on RF2 can be excellent in many circumstances (oval racing is excluded) and better than any other outside iRacing. 5 min tweak to the player.json file and making sure that you have practice/quali/race (you can speed up practice and quali) and the AI will be very much lifelike.

@matk4731

2 жыл бұрын

@@valter_vava74 Really! Adjust the Json file?? 😐. WTF is that? If you have to go in & stuff around with the core game files to get it to work it is broken. Raceroom has the best AI IMO & you don’t have to go into the core game files to get it to work.

It's not more expensive than the past DLCs on release, it's just there is more new content to buy suddenly. I love the Corolla and will probably spend enough time just with it, that the big pack was worth the price. Certainly more worth it than the content I 'bought' in iRacing. The TCR are great... if you don't know how the Corolla handles. AC is nice, but I find the physics and especially the tyre model underwhelming nowadays. Even Forza Horizon 5 feels more complex IMO.

Once again saying this to people after the Q2 drop the cars are £4.27 each, the tracks are £7.68 each, and if you buy the Q2 pack they're cheaper than buying them individually. i really don't understand how this is expensive when you could buy both cars and a track for the price of one track in iRenting, which ofc you have to pay a monthly/yearly sub on...

@DanLMH

2 жыл бұрын

@@screennameoflate7788 do you not understand inflation then lol. back on PS2 sure games were £30, but money is worth less now than back then, and you're paying for the smaller developers like S397 to survive... Otherwise you don't even get a game

@andreaiachini7517

2 жыл бұрын

Are you comparing the 2 experiences? In iRenting, as you called it, you have ton of race with TONS OF PEOPLE almost in any time you prefer. In rFactor 2... Well. You are fortunate to race with 10 people at the same time.

You can buy 3 ACs but it doesnt give you rf2 driving physics. I guess thats why they charge what they charge. And for all DD wheel owners rf2 is just on abother level compared to competition.

5€ for a car and 10 € for a laser scanned track is a problem for people who spent thousands on SIM gear? Really? And there are workshop options if you already spend all your money on hardware.

It will get better offer time ....I hear this since years about rFactor. Looks like a side project

Too expensive

Yea $33 was steep..

YES YES YES YES, Cars that are not GT. Y E S

Lol this guys said we can get two arcade sim games for the price of the dlc. Sure, I bought an expensive sim rig to do that.

@redonealpha710

2 жыл бұрын

Hahaha, yes Indeed! Spot on and thanks for speaking the truth!

@berarma

2 жыл бұрын

I think his public might be teenagers playing with gamepads.

Better pay money to get some great stuff. I hope ACC takes more in the next DLC. First: they earned it. Second: they can use it for better content.

MSG is in a very dire money situation and desperately need you to pay $40 for a 10 year old game, and another $25 for 2 cars and tracks, so their CEO can give himself another 600% raise...

@valter_vava74

2 жыл бұрын

The DLC items cost exactly the same as ever since well before MSG came into the fray...

Don’t listen to this guy it’s fun as fuck. It’s a bit pricey but not iracing pricy

Nope not for me, I havnt bought dlc for this game for a long time, buy this pack and race against no one!

1) price is fair, my son spends more for skins in Fortnite 2) you should ask Austin, it seems to me - since it’s video - you are riding that horse…

People waste more money on worse things.

This guy Is Incredible, first he does his best to put down MSG and rFactor 2 In those past videos he mentions. Putting to shame both MSG and rF2! and the pricing! While he presis the new content, but then expects that all sim companies to share the same pricing politics as ACC! How can one be such a hypocrite! People actually believe this? What does the developer (Studio 397) have to do with the publisher/owner MSG aside from doing what there told, even If that? This Is just more free gossip, drama with added click bait and some twisted conspiracy based on speculations as If they really knew what Is behind the closed doors. But then they dare say the content Is getting better and we just wish we got more while his stepping on there throat! Amazing, journalism at It´s best here folks!

@berarma

2 жыл бұрын

Some youtubers care more about video views than simracing.

Not worth it in rFactor 2. Not nearly enough players and broken ai..

@valter_vava74

2 жыл бұрын

AI is fine, much better and lifelike than on other titles (without artificial rubber banding to bunch up the cars). It takes 5 min to make some tweaks on the player.json and then making sure to do practice/quali/race and it will perform like no other (oval racing excluded).

@ryanviertel7059

2 жыл бұрын

@@valter_vava74 can you post a link? I haven't driven it a lot but I was put off by erratic AI behavior like constant crashing in the pit lanes for example.

@valter_vava74

2 жыл бұрын

@@ryanviertel7059 check Mark Pearce's YT channel or the Studio 397 Forum AI will have various degrees of proficiency depending if its AIW has been properly done or not. DLC tracks sometimes take a few weeks to get the AIW fine tuned after release and some mod tracks have really bad AIW lines, but other have excellent, DLC level or better.

@ryanviertel7059

2 жыл бұрын

@@valter_vava74 thanks! This was on the official version of Silverstone that it was happening. I don't remember what car, but I'm pretty sure it was one from the original game, not a mod.

rofl you talk too much, just enjoy the content.

I have had rFactor2 for years, I have tried to like it, but it is dreadful. You need a next generation PC to eke out a decent look. The handling is okay, but the graphics were and still are so bad it ruins the effect UNLESS you have a really top end PC. I bought several tracks and cars. Another problem is the horrendous ui. So bad. Never fixed. And yes, the price is stupid.

@myronianny

2 жыл бұрын

Optimization has been a problem since the release, same as physics bugs, horrible hud (in Dx9 it was better) and many many stuff. I used to love this sim but the direction it took is arguable imho. They prefere upgrading graphic and making it heavier instead of optimize it. Seems like the devs live in another world... If only ISI had the money... P.s if you want to see ffb bar and inputs simhub is mandatory! 😂

Yeaaaahhhh, Nahhh

Honestly If Rfactor 2 was a more polished game I would say it’s fine. But the game is really old and it feels it. I can’t justify buying any content for this game unless they update the game significantly, I’m not buying it. And it’s a pity I was really looking forward to a BTCC game

@valter_vava74

2 жыл бұрын

Neither looks, nor feels old. Watch Dave Cam's video on the BTCC content.

25€ for 2 cars and 2 tracks is ridiculous. All this content drop with the MSG story makes me feel like this is a final cash grab before they close the shop.

@RST-R-MODS

2 жыл бұрын

You have no ideia the work the DEVS have,i can say that i have made a car and track for a private company and i have charged way more,one full PC and a G27,ohh,and it was only a conversion from rFactor 1 to rFactor2,but that company know all the work envolved,even if as only a conversion.

@Vindisify

2 жыл бұрын

@@RST-R-MODS What do you about of what I know and not? Making it for a private company is very different than selling it to the public, how can you even compare? Get your head out of your ass and maybe you'll see the burning pile of shit that is MSG.

@DanLMH

2 жыл бұрын

literally >2x the value compared to irent?? and no monthly fee? what are you smoking

@Vindisify

2 жыл бұрын

@@DanLMH Girl scout cookies today, but that's not the point. Stop comparing everything to the most overpriced game in the genre. It's ridiculous, you know it, I know it, everybody knows it.

Get a proper job and stop moaning guys.. The more money we spend the more quality content we'll enjoy, the more promotional videos can be created. Together with all the conspiracy YT 🤡, You'll be a minority anyway.

Rip off

25 for a dlc of a dead video game, no thanks.

Too expensive