They kept the KLM Asia so that they can bait Simply Aviation to make a brutally honest video on it 😃🎉

@hac129

28 күн бұрын

A diss video LOL 😂

The employees probably don’t know themselves why KLM Asia exists and just googled it after you emailed them 😂

@zacnewzealand

29 күн бұрын

Haha😅

@EpicThe112

26 күн бұрын

😂😂😂😂 the final destination of KL807/808 the main KLM Asia route route is MNL T1 which makes the crew being Dutch/Flemish Taiwanese and Filipino. Do KL808 back to AMS there's some going to JFK KL643 KL619/618 BOS for PVD. Although KE has the shorter layover via ICN from MNL for BOS

Graz is Arnold Schwarzenegger's hometown. When departing, remember to tell airport staff "I'll be back."

@yaronsteinbuch3956

29 күн бұрын

😂

@andysorensen1737

29 күн бұрын

Alternatively, if you’re cutting it close: “RUN! GET TO THE CHOPPA!”

@magentilized

25 күн бұрын

Grazer here!

I can confirm by a fact that Latin Americans really, really like KLM (and Air France also) because it allows them to connect to the rest of the world without a hassle, mainly because transiting via AMS DOES NOT require a visa compared to doing so via the US (which only Chileans can go without lengthy formalities due to visa waivers). KL/AF networks are vast enough to allow them to go pretty much everywhere, and at reasonable prices as well! (Side note: the SCL-EZE fifth freedom flight is also heavily used because KLM offers fantastic full-service fares that are often cheaper than low cost airlines like JetSmart and SKY, and those are as basic as you can get...) Great video, David!

@Nadia1989

Ай бұрын

Yup. Transit at AMS is rough, but is less complicated than LHR, CDG or FRA. I wish they could add travelators between the two terminals.

@odzergaming

29 күн бұрын

you dont need a visa transiting anywhere other than US and Canada

@goytabr

29 күн бұрын

@@odzergaming, that is indeed true for most Latin American nationalities at all *MAJOR* connection hubs outside the US and Canada that I can think of, but sometimes a few routes may lead them to some more unusual connecting airports that may require visas. For example, Aeromexico sometimes offers fares attractive enough to tempt passengers from Latin America to Europe to make a long detour through Mexico City, and Mexico now requires a visa for Brazilians and a few other Latin American nationalities (waived if the person has a valid visa for the US or Canada).

@murderboytje

29 күн бұрын

@@Nadia1989 For an airport its size Schiphols transfers are so easy. As you said compare it to same sized airports like LHR or FRA lol

@espaciobarra

28 күн бұрын

Chileans have no issues taking advantage of US/CA hubs thanks to ESTA and eTA waivers. I've used LAX and SFO a few times already because of said lack of formalities. The rest of LATAM has it more complicated though. As insane as it sounds, people from there do fly to New Zealand if they need to reach Asia. Same thing goes for DXB or DOH: no formalities. The tradition has always been going via AMS, CDG or FRA though.

As a Chinese, David really research on the Chinese culture on numbers, and traditional Chinese characters, I don't expect that!

@lzh4950

29 күн бұрын

86 is a lucky number in China too I heard, with '8' (八) sounding like the word for 'prosperity' (发/發) & '6' (六) sounding like the word for 'flow' (流) in Mandarin. It's also the country code for mainland China/the PRC. Maybe not a co-incidence. SIA also has its flight numbers for routes serving greater China starting with '8' e.g. SQ872 & 890 for SIN-HKG

@florianpelin

28 күн бұрын

86 is the Chinese phone code as well, no? +86

@Curzon1999vie

28 күн бұрын

I think he speaks Mandarin pretty perfectly. Heard him pronounce some Chinese radish or something. He never told us when and why he learned it (so perfectly). Would be really interesting.

@lzh4950

28 күн бұрын

@@florianpelin Yup

@hockey1freak

7 күн бұрын

hes not American he isn't indoctrinated to hate China. Good on him to show the respect.

KLM crews have always been very kind and friendly in my flights with them. I've had better experiences with some other airlines, but overall I feel like KLM is one of the most consistent in terms of service quality.

I really feel the opposite from you about Schiphol. I love that it is all one terminal, that you don't have to transfer with a bus or train to go to different ones. It is also very easy to navigate, impossible to get lost. A walk is very welcome in between 2 flights. Schiphol had huge issues with security / passport lines right after covid, but those times are luckily long gone.

@SEN77788

23 күн бұрын

Полностью согласен, это тоже мой самый любимый аэропорт для пересадки и транзита в Европе, это очень удобный аэропорт

Yeah, you can see both regular KLM and Asia flying both China and Taiwan today. The only possible answer I can think of is that KLM wants to keep the brand to stay on good terms with China. Currently, KLM is actually the only European airline flying to Taiwan. Maybe that plays a role in them keeping the brand to not upset China. Even though China isn't making a big of a deal about it anymore. Funny enough, you mentioned the fleet of KLM Asia here 12:23 consisting of 9 B777. It's actually 8 now. One of the Boeing 777-300ER (PH-BVC) has been repainted to the regular KLM livery a few months ago. Maybe they're finally starting to drop the brand.

@murderboytje

29 күн бұрын

I think that was a reason for it indeed. To keep the KLM and KLM Asia fleet seperated with the China and Taiwan conflict. With this ''new'' company they can still fly to Taiwan and China.

@kaffir76

14 күн бұрын

Excellent reply. 100% on point 🙏🙏

@_yying_

8 күн бұрын

Turkish Airlines fly to TPE as well (although that’s an Asian/European mix?

I recently asked klm why there still is an Asia devision. They told me that the crown in the logo is the issue for some countries. It was for countries like Thailand where they are not allowed to show the crown. But these aircraft fly all over the world, also to NA for example.

@whyteaz1165

29 күн бұрын

lol definitely not a problem for sino, they prob just want to keep it as a tradition

@theon9575

29 күн бұрын

😂 haha... likely story! It sounds good if you say it fast enough, but it doesn't really figure. I wonder which countries they meant? I guess one of them could have been China but the others??? The crown in the KLM logo is simply a reflection of the airline's name KLM, the acronym for "Koninklijk Luchtvaart Maatschappij" (or "Royal Airtravel Company" in English). Those un-named countries object to the logo but not to the "Royal" in KLM's name? Unlikely. It is similar to the English tradition of the King or Queen granting companies by Appointment the right to use "Royal" in their name. In the UK there are many, even jars of marmalade have Royal and a Crown logo. The Royal connection occurs in other airlines, such as Morocco's and Jordan's national airlines. Even in Asia, Royal Brunei Airlines and Royal Nepal etc are not bothered by these un-named countries. Why is KLM and the Dutch Crown singled out? British Airways which carries the Royal Mail, shamelessly shows the British Crown in the logo of the Royal Mail on the fuselage of their aeroplanes but that's not a problem. Why? 😂😱 So I think those people at KLM were fobbing you off with a slick but unlikely & inconsistent explanation 🧐. Why would these un-named countries they told you about object only to the Dutch Crown?

@sinaasappelflap

29 күн бұрын

@@whyteaz1165it was for countries like Thailand that don’t allow the display of crowns other then their royal stuff

@npligs24

29 күн бұрын

Not a problem in China. Crowns and symbols resembling monarchy are okay, so long as China diplomatically recognize the corresponding country, i.e. Dutch, UK, Thailand, or even post-WW Japanese monarchs. But not from states that China doesn't recognize, namely Vatican city.

@theon9575

29 күн бұрын

@@sinaasappelflapso Thailand banned Royal Brunei Airlines, and Royal Nepal Air flying in from neighbouring Nepal, and also British Airways aircraft which flagrantly display the British Crown in the Royal Mail logo on their fuselages?? I think not. And which other countries "like Thailand" do you mean?

I'm surprised you dislike layovers in AMS. To me, the single terminal concept makes transferring a whole lot more convienient, compared to let's say CDG or FRA.

@upaviation787

28 күн бұрын

im at cdg rn lol bout to board a aa 787 to dfw

@Jamie-Fox

9 күн бұрын

I disagree FRA is far more easy and quicker than AMS.

KLM Asia seems more like a livery than an actual branding, since the plane at timestamp 9:26 also recently flew to non Asia routes like Guayaquil and Quito

@EpicThe112

20 күн бұрын

You are correct also the Eastern United States Amsterdam to JFK and Boston Logan. For the KLM Asia flight to Taipei it's actually going to Manila Ninoy Aquino International Airport

The only thing I can really get behind regarding the livery is that it protects the "KLM Asia" brand just in case they ever need it again or want to use it for some reason. :)

@soonlytaing1708

Ай бұрын

I mean with the rising tension between China and Taiwan these days, this might be a smart move

@LeviRamsey

29 күн бұрын

Related: the Dutch are too cheap (or, if you prefer, too starved for resources by Paris...) to spend the money to retire KLM Asia.

@ljacobs357

27 күн бұрын

That’s what I think. They are just protecting themselves from possible geopolitical problems between China and Taiwan.

@technl75

24 күн бұрын

I would guess that KLM is simply choosing to be prepared for China and Taiwan once again reverting to the tense situation that existed before. It’s a contingency plan. That it hasn’t happened in 20 years is no proof of a failing plan. It’s not like China and Taiwan have resolved their issues, or likely will anytime soon.

@19960959

23 күн бұрын

@@technl75As a Taiwanese, I don’t think the issue between Taiwan and China will never be solved in my lifetime.😢

I live near MSP and every now and then a KLM 777 with the KLM Asia livery shows up here. Always fun to see but I remember being so confused about it when I saw it for the first time.

15:06 The nightmare of all passengers... That crying baby.

@woutergijs5246

Ай бұрын

Correction: I heard 2 and maybe a bit later N°3 joined in😅😅😅

@Hoovie9596

29 күн бұрын

You cried when you were a baby

@woutergijs5246

29 күн бұрын

@@Hoovie9596as far as I remember, I did never cry .

@Namisincere

29 күн бұрын

It’s crazy how something so commonplace can still be annoying every time somehow

@Hoovie9596

29 күн бұрын

@@woutergijs5246 if you say so

I think they still keep it, simply for fun and also incase something like what happened in the 1990's happens again they will be fine

I see you met with our Dutch way of working style. The rule is simple: work as less as possible, use anything that makes your work easier. It isn’t important if that makes your work low quality, wrong or etc. As long as it isn’t terrible, defend your work to death 😂😂😂 I think KLM Asia exists because it makes KLM looks a bit more global. Like “big in Asia” so to say. This is only a speculation of course. Another Dutch thing to know: do not seek too much of meaning behind things 😂

@matteoarlotti6479

29 күн бұрын

Broodje for life ahha

The 'generous' legroom is to accommodate the tall Dutchies!

@mohammadghannoum4197

29 күн бұрын

i didn't know Dutch people are generally tall

@goytabr

29 күн бұрын

I'm a short man at 1.67 m or 5'6". I've never been in the Netherlands or flown on KLM, and I guess I would be considered even shorter there. But I did fly on the MD-11 in another airline and route, and as you know, KLM was the last airline to fly that type of plane in passenger service. At the time of my flight, KLM actually had a large fleet of them, and as an aviation buff, I knew that fact. And while I mostly enjoyed the MD-11 experience, I couldn't reach the luggage racks, they were too high for me (the MD-11 was the only aircraft type where this happened). I thought that there must have been some Dutch designers at McDonnell-Douglas, and that the plane being designed for tall people was probably one of the reasons why KLM liked it so much... 😂

@Mimi_L.

28 күн бұрын

@@goytabr the average height in the Netherlands are 183 cms (6'0) for men and 170 cms (5'7) for women.

can we talk about how beautiful the KLM livery looks ok the 777 ?

@robloxlovera6362

Ай бұрын

I think cuz of the Delft blue color

@_msraviation

29 күн бұрын

My favourite KLM livery is the 787-10

@_msraviation

29 күн бұрын

Although 777 looks beautiful too

@theon9575

29 күн бұрын

And the Boeing 747 'Queen of the Skies' looked splendid with this livery. The blue (often called "KLM Blue" here) is unique, and is as Dutch as clogs & tulips! Someone here commented that it reminds of blue in traditional Delft Blauw pottery. I think so too. But I live in Amsterdam, and here KLM blue is the sky colour and the gentle sunlight quality are unique in NL, even commented on by artists like Rembrandt and Vermeer. When I'm overseas and missing 'home', that blue on the KLM plane at the airport touches my heart again .."Ah! Thuis! ❤️ I'm going 'home".

@sub2julianthekang

29 күн бұрын

Any blue 777 looks good. Say the Korean air 777. It looked very nice. I just flew on one

Respect to your research on KLM Asia and the figures😃

Considering how spot on you were on the pronunciations @ 20:52 I'm fairly confident you can pronounce Edmonton right. Not once but twice if you wanna get nit picky. Not Edmont

I feel the reason why they keep the KLM ASIA Branding is in the event China or Taiwan does not allow any foreign airlines to fly in, KLM ASIA can operate like it is as its made for the China and Taiwan market anyways.

@juanone66

29 күн бұрын

For countries that rely so heavily on foreign trade, I doubt that will ever happen.

@Candy-wm4nc

29 күн бұрын

I’ve seen foreign airlines fly in china and Taiwan

@iflycessnas4707

28 күн бұрын

@@Candy-wm4nc read the OP comment again

According to the Dutch Chamber of Commerce (KVK), there is no KLM Asia (anymore?). There is only KLM (Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij N.V. KVK 33014286) , KLM Cargo (KVK 33014286) and KLM Cityhopper B.V. (KVK 34035358)

@thofstee

29 күн бұрын

If it's still there it's probably registered in a different country. You won't find that information at the KvK.

@Ouchie

29 күн бұрын

@@thofstee I would expect it to be registered in the Netherlands or France, but neither has any results. Doesn't seem logical to me that it is registered in a completely different country, but am no expert in that

@LeviRamsey

29 күн бұрын

@@Ouchie KLM Asia had at least in the past been incorporated in Taiwan.

@Ouchie

29 күн бұрын

@@LeviRamsey It is also not listed in their Subsidiaries list in their anual report 2023 (KLM-Annual-Report_2023.pdf page 230). So I think it doesn't exist anymore and just kept the name on their aircraft livery

@A.mortaz_

29 күн бұрын

Its registerd in honkong

the way he pronounced the south amercain citys was just amazing shows how much respect david shows for other places

@Planelover3000

28 күн бұрын

OMG HE HEARTED MY COMMENT NICE

I Love When Air Craft Have Personal Air Nozzles,I Love Schiphol Its So Easy To Navigate.Great Video And Info

I flew in KLM ASIA from Lima to Amsterdam a few years ago. Amazing flight.

Love the fun facts about 8!

In many years of flying, I have never seen anyone use the coat hook. I was once tempted to hang a small bag from it but realized it would have been more of an annoyance to the person next to me.

David & co, those kind of videos are SO EXCELLENT!!! ❤️

I was at the Amsterdam Airport for Planespotting and actually saw the other KLM Asia plane that you showed, which was scheduled to fly to Somewhere in the US.

What interests me the most is the fact that one of the KLM Asia aircraft is named "Nahanni National Park"--a famous national park in the Northwest Territories of Canada, nowhere near Asia!

I'm impressed you used the conjunction of y'all when talking about the beer. There are few locations where that is very prevalent.

I have an idea about a tripreport. I am very curious about the Corendon a350 with the adult only section. Is it worth it on a 9 hour flight from Amsterdam to Curaçao? Or is it just a gimmick.

Great review as always! I recently flew KLM for the first time back in April from Kuala Lumpur to Amsterdam and I was very impressed. That flight was also my very first flight on a 787 Dreamliner :) I would certainly fly with them again in the future. On that same trip in April I also flew with Air France for the first time and was just as impressed with their long haul Economy product. Air France's newest A350's have dimmable windows which was a surprise :) Looking forward to your upcoming reviews :)

10:29　It seems that KLM Asia painted aircrafts were mixed with others KLM aircrafts in 2000s. I took a KLM flight AMS-GRU with B747 combi in KLM Asia paint. Also, KLM Asia B747s were sighted in Japan.

I took this flight between AMS and Shanghai and I loved every minute of it

All KLM flight numbers to the Far East Asia starts with 8 (809 to KUL- Jakarta), Africa with 5, North America 6, Latin America 7, Middle East 4.

@erik_griswold

29 күн бұрын

Clever!

The KLM Asia aircraft with nosename "Nahanni National Park" (registered PH-BQN) is still lingering in my mind tho. I glad had a chance to photographed him in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia back in 2018

Thanks for the tip about booking and flying blue!

definitely agree with you on this review especially about the food

Hi David, nice work! Glad that you go to my hometown of Shanghai, and your extensive research of KLM Asia (especially when the previous article by simple flying is wrong :)). Besides, I am pretty impressed by your understanding about Chinese culture such as the number 8 in the flight numbers (which I don't know previously), and your knowledge about the 88 resembling 囍, which I don't know either. Thank you for your nice work and efforts, and wish you had a good time in Shanghai (mega-city in your words)! By the way, I echo your thoughts on non-alcoholic heineken!

Assigned to economy comfort seats for free if requested at checkin counter? Thanks for the advice! Actually these seats also recline, the old ones all did and economy, and in comfort even further

Hehe, I flew exact same aircraft in December 2022 and it was a KLM Asia Plane (Reg PH-BQH) operating from AMS-BOM. They fly sometimes these aircraft to Asia and they look almost the same as a regular KLM Aircraft. Regardless, ther service is always great & crew is always friendly.

You‘ve pointed it right. KLM used to be such a great airline. Since AF-KLM seems to be the french have the upper hand in that regard. Back in the 2000‘s I remember as a kid I could have taken the kids meal out after arrival. And that impression is still kept. AF-KLM should balance the offers as You mentioned. „Egalite“. KLM will always be in my heart as a former little flying dutch man.

I also rode a KLM Asia 747-400 to Manila via Taipei, it was supposed to be a 777-200ER but due to the technical issues I was lucky that they chose the 747 as their substitute aircraft. Flight no. 807

I actually saw a KLM 777-200ER taking off from my home town of Minneapolis about a week ago now. Watching this video and seeing that plane's registration, I believe Simply Aviation flew on the same aircraft I saw.

8:40 you forgot Singapore, while it is multi-ethnic, it is majority Chinese-speaking. KLM's flight numbers there are KL835 and KL836

because of routes limits at schiphol, to keep more slots

I work at AMS and I get what you're saying that it can be a long walk to your new gate. Although I saw you were pretty unlucky with your departure gate, being at the end of the E pier. It can indeed get insanely crowded in the waiting lounges.

Interesting video. I am an extremely frequent flier on both AF and KL long haul in Y and although I admit immediately that AF J is a league above KL, KL’s Y product is a league above AF. Yes AF serves a cheap champagne but how does it taste? I believe the wine in KL is of better quality, as is their whole catering. Cute little bag from AF but the content is of low quality, stale bread and processed foods. Also, in general, the service is more personal on KL than AF in Y, plus I believe also that KL is more Dutch than AF is French. There are so many references to The Netherlands, for example the safety video that you refer to from AF but not KL. I agree that serving 2 apple items is unfortunate but the product itself is totally different. What airline serves hot towels in Y? It does cost a lot as you need crew to warm them up and serve which takes at least double, if not triple the time. And then they have to pick them up again. Not dfeasable in Y. Good job with “Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij”😊😜 But the direct translating is actually “Royal Aviation Company”

@seanatd3224

Ай бұрын

SQ serves hot towels in Y

You guys need to go to Belize and take a trip or two on the awesomeness that is Tropic Air

Two years ago I had to transit at Schiphol with a sprained ankle. Never again. 10:12 the shade!

You said it well the Koninklijke luchtvaart maatschappij, pretty good 🇳🇱

@florianpelin

28 күн бұрын

Which is still hard for me to pronounce, even if my Dutch is decent

It is a Dutch airline. The Dutch love apples and apple products. I grew up with apple juice and apple pastries and products like apple crumble for dessert. Still love all of these. This helps make it Dutch to me. Just wish one got the little delft bottles in economy though.

Just a small clarification for the title: PH-BQK was delivered to KLM in 2005. So it is nearing two decades old now!

maaad respect for you actually showing the take offs and landings

Beautiful video man!

I support the theory that it is kind of a 'redundancy', international politics, especially regarding to China and Taiwan, can be very unpredictable.

i was just in Schipol in february connecting Delta to Cityhopper and i found it pretty painless. then again we where in at 6am. so that could be the reason why. Also we flew on CityHopper to LCY and 1 agree with you 100% about the legroom. i am 6ft 6 (182 cm and the main reason i like your videos as we are almost the same height).

these videos are just so good to watch when you have hours of nothing to do keep it up

Loved the use of “y’all” at 17:06.

@juanone66

29 күн бұрын

David obviously linguistically talented. This video also featured Castillilan Spanish, Dutch (or Nederlandisch for purists) and his usual flawless English.

Fantastic video David!😸

Great review with impressive research! ✈️

I flew on a KLM Asia plane from JFK-AMS earlier this year and was confused as to how that works, glad I'm not the only one confused about KLM Asia

I once flew a Continental Micronesia DC-10 from SFO to EWR. Maybe you could do a video on why the was a KLMuk.

Not sure about the Shanghai, Beijing and Taipei route. But the flight from AMS to HKG should be KL 887, while HKG to AMS is KL 888

I think you are one of the few people in the world disliking Schiphol airport. It is extremely easy to navigate for such a huge airport. As for KLM Asia, I think it is just a livery for potential political issues, as you said. And KLM is as Dutch as Air France is French. Dutch culture hates "over the top". You said it correctly, but did not realise the Dutchness of that "blandness".

I flew last year from London to Amsterdam with KLM and then into Tokyo Narita. Cabin crew were experienced and really helpful but the seats were like cardboard so uncomfortable. The 777 was showing it's age. I totally agree with the comment about Air France as flew back from Seoul-Paris London and they were fantastic with non stop food and champers !

I've been on KLM Asia during my two flights SFO-AMS-DEL. Both of it being 777-200Es. But the flight from SFO-AMS was so much better than flight to Delhi. Even though both were economy. The food was so much better. And the transit at Amsterdam was also were very smooth for me since I was coming from North America. I would love to fly them in future again. Their crew was also amazing! 😍💯

Thanks so much for explaining the reasons for using (and not using) certain numbers in flights to China! I appreciate the shared knowledge. I wonder if keeping the Asia livery has something to do with the history of kingdoms in Asia that could have triggered the removal of the crown?

Can you do Malaysia Airlines' new product offerings on the 737 MAX and A330neo soon? Great video as always! :D

Y'all should do an airline related tier list, like a seat tier list, airline tier list, airliner plane tier list, airline food tier list etc

The klm asia is i think only an livery. These planes are also send to usa and latin america and africa. I have flown to taipei in a klm regular plane

Can you make a video about Garuda Indonesia economy class?

Thanks it helping me

Is it maybe possible for you guys to review KLM’s new premium comfort class? Also more premium economy videos? Thank you very much and kudos for the excellent content 🎉❤

Heyy, KLM is slowly changing the liveries at the moment, the PH-BVC has recently been painted in the normal livery.

@jouniairplanevideos

25 күн бұрын

That doesn't say anything.

Hope David can discover VietJet Air too. I hope to see David's opinion about this low cost carrier compare to some other low cost carriers

Glad to know dutch east india Company is still operating

Thank you for such an amazing review!

Schiphol may be a bit chaotic in the central hall, but in general I liked it until the Dutch government started to impose all kinds of dreadful fees which are added up to ticket prices if you start your journey from AMS. This year I will try my luck via Brussels (going there by train from Amsterdam) which saves me a literal 25% of the ticket price for a mere €30 trainticket and a two hours direct connection. The airport I vowed to avoid for the rest of my life is Heathrow. If you are talking about nightmares: that is one...

great video 🧊🧊🤪🤪

I'm just gonna play 20:55 over and over again in my dreams 😍

I live in switzerland and for business reasons I fly two to three times a month with AF -KLM to Lima and Santiago de Chile since 2008. always business class. AF is a nightmare as far as service and luggage delays and KLM is very poor with their monotonous horrible food. However , I must admit that KLM is efficient with punctuality . I recommend LATAM and or Delta.

Lovely review of KLM, David! Insane how nailed the pronunciations of the South American cities. Would be nice to see if you could nail the pronunciations of the Chinese cities which are hard to pronounce for sure!

To add to the intrigue, I actually saw a KLM Asia plane the other day... in YUL of all places!

ist increadibile that the still operate them

Omg its like KLM flight from Minsk to Prague, didn't know it existed

I remember KLM serving hot towels in economy pre-covid, when they flew 747s. I really miss it.

11:51 😂 I’ve read somewhere on the internet that it’s just these liveries that are still in service, but I don’t remember where I read it and I also don’t know why these liveries are still around 🤷🏻‍♀️

I think your description of KLM economy is too bleak, though spot on! What I mean by that is that indeed it is very Dutch. Let's call it pragmatic quality. No fuss, no sparkle, just clear and pragmatic service. I know they put a little more effort into their business class, but all in all I find KLM very pleasant most of the time. Looking forward to seeing their new short haul Airbus fleet!

I always use KLM Asia when going to the UK I love KLM.

It allows them to operate fifth freedom flight between TPE & MNL.

Klm is as dutch as the king. 😂 simple service with a friendly crew honestly both airfrance and klm en body their respective countries perfectly air france is a chic airline and klm is the easy going family centric airline, and as someone who lived in the Netherlands for many years I've got to say I love klm so much I would love to work for them in the future.

Have you takin Cebu Pacific? If you haven’t, please try them out. I just flew them a few hours ago, and I had a pretty decent flight

Superb video, i have travelled to Taiwan via Amsterdam countless times and they always got me there safe which is the most important fact for me. The dutch simply know how to fly with the highest amount of butter landings in all my (many) flights i took. 😅

@EpicThe112

28 күн бұрын

Like it be aware that flight is actually going to Manila NAIA. On the return trip Manila Taipei Amsterdam you have to deal with 6-hour connection time to the eastern US.

@Freelancer01

28 күн бұрын

Yes it is going and coming from Manila. Got to know many Sailors from the Philippines who go home for Vacation. Ok thats a long layover for sure. I always had to hurry in AMS because the connection to Munich was only around 1,5h. There shouldnt be much of an delay to catch it. 😊

I wouldn't transit through Schiphol either by choice. I once missed my connection from Manchester to Hong Kong. They rerouted me through KL and I was about 9 hours delayed and no luggage at arrival. It wasn't their fault, and the flights were fine.

I'm impressed you said "y'all" on your beer rant! 😂

@simply_aviation

28 күн бұрын

felt like a y'all kinda moment haha

@vasiliospantazopoulos9574

27 күн бұрын

@@simply_aviation Informative and entertaining as always. Good work.

@dermann439

27 күн бұрын

no problem with alcohol free beer but...where was the beer? All I could see was a can of Heineken

Great flight, Since there's no official explanation why KLM ASIA livery still exist, it still becomes mystery. But yeah, talking about KLM's Stopover flight, this is definitely great for some people who want to try European airlines without touching European soil thanks to 5th freedom flight, especially in my region you've already mentioned.

The only thing I can think of is that they want to be ready in case China/Taiwan relations severely deteriorate.

Great video as always, I am not a fan of transiting through AMS but is beats CDG by a mile. AF is good, but connecting through CDG is a nightmare What's your favorite airport to transit? cheers