kzread.info/dash/bejne/gYlr0pKvmbe2prA.html to see our surprising taste test results.

I have had a mocamaster for I don't know - 7-8 years. I have the model with a thermal carafe. it is one of the best purchases I've made. so good. so consistent.

@trendyfly

Жыл бұрын

Form and function.

@arichman35

9 ай бұрын

I’ve had mine for two years now, also with a thermal carafe. I love it.

@gosman949

7 ай бұрын

I've had mine for over 15 years and had to send it in once for a $60 repair. Excellent. You do need to stir the grinds a bit to get full extraction and I imagine this couple knew nothing about doing that!

@allieoakly

6 ай бұрын

LOVE mine!! (Mpccamaster that is)

@walterconrad887

2 ай бұрын

@grossman949 why should you have to store the coffee grounds. At $300. It should be able to .make a perfect cup.

I LOVE my Mccamaster and it did change my life! It constantly delivers a great cup of coffee, never bitter. It will be my coffee maker forever! Oh, and the company stands behind its product!

@gosman949

7 ай бұрын

yes they do stand behind their product and is cheap to repair and there is a US location I believe in Washington or Oregon.

@westeagle00

2 ай бұрын

Just bought one -I'll be returning it. Feels flimsy and I get more flavour from my cheap coffee maker. I wanted to like it, but for the price -big disappointment.

@Meyerc-yv2bi

Ай бұрын

@@westeagle00 I returned my Mocamaster. Cheap product and terrible tasting coffee. What a disappointment ! Bought the Bonavita, although a slightly different model than is used in the video. The best tasting coffee I've ever had!

Some comments from someone who has been grinding his own coffee since the early 1970's: 1) don't use a scoop, weigh out your beans for a single brewing before grinding. You'll figure out the weight you want per pot (or cup) and your coffee will be more consistent. 2) If you use a reusable "gold" filter basket, you'll have fine sediment in your coffee. This isn't a problem for some, it is for others. 3) I gave up on glass carafes shortly after insulated steel carafes came on the market. The insulated carafes don't require a burner plate and all its associated problems (and bad coffee). 4) I have to have a maker that makes 50+ oz. of coffee. It's the reason I've never considered getting a Bonavita, though I think I would otherwise love it. 5) If you have a coffee maker that makes coffee you like, stick with it. Same for beans and grind. There are no hard and fast rules, just technique and preference. Small changes in technique can produce noticeable changes in the cup. Preferences are so personal that you may hate the coffee I love and vice versa. richard -- "Forget mysterious dark matter and the inexplicable accelerating expansion of the universe; the bicycle represents a far more embarrassing hole in the accomplishments of Physics." - Michael Brooks, Quantum Physicist

"It tastes bitter, but I don't think that's any fault of the coffee maker, it might just be me." "When we did our taste test, we both thought this one was terrible, but it's fine now. This coffee maker is fine." 🙄 What a useful review from two clearly useful people.

I have a Mr. Coffee with a timer, thermal carafe, and heater. I set the timer to brew a little before I wake up. It's perfectly hot every day. No butler could make coffee better.

Your experience with the Bona Vita matches what i (and my family experienced). Our Bona Vita basically died after four years of heavy use. It made the best coffee ever. My friend has a technivorn. I’ve tasted the coffee it brews. It brews a great cup of coffee, but the Bona Vita Beats it hands down. Bonavita, for the price, brews amazing coffee.

@ChaoticOrder73

22 күн бұрын

But it breaks consistently after 2-4 years.

I have the mini Bonavita. Before brewing, I always put hot tap water in the carafe to pre-heat it.

The “parking brake” allows you to do an infused coffee with a filter. Using that occasionally for a well-extracted coffee, similar to a French press with a filter, is an enjoyable change of pace.

They say the way to evaluate the usefulness of a review is to watch/read one on a product you know about. I own that Moccamaster model. My water reservoir lid doesn't move much at all. It performs very well. They say not to but I routinely put ALL the plastic parts in the dishwasher and only wash the carafe itself by hand. No issues. The coffee is excellent and I paired it with a Eureka Mignon Filtro grinder, the most basic, which does an excellent job of grinding for a drip brewer for not a lot of money (compared to one that will grind for espresso or drip and espresso). About the only thing that can go wrong with the Moccamaster is if you don't push the filter basket fully towards the water reservoir. It's spring loaded and if not sat right it can not engage the opening on the bottom and the part can overflow. That only happened to me once and now I know to seat it properly. Cleaning and descaling are very easy. What this doesn't say is once those warranties expire the company will STILL repair the unit back to like new for a flat fee when you send it in. It's an excellent company and the product produces excellent coffee without fail. If you're not a stickler for perfection, though, the Braun Brewsense is much less expensive and pretty darned good. That's what I replaced with the Moccamaster and I like the coffee from both.

I've had my Technivorm for close to ten years so I feel good with my purchase. I have the thermal carafe model. Still is a good coffee maker. My daughter wanted the Ninja, to replace one she had so I got her that one. But it only lasts about a year, so in three years I would have paid for my Technivorm.

@veronicareider5999

Жыл бұрын

I too have had my MoccaMaster now for 12 years…every day I have a great brewed cup of coffee. Not one issue except for having to replace my glass carafe due to an accidental drop in the sink. Definitely higher than most but will last you for years.

A couple notes on the Bonavita. 1) their newer models actually come with a slide in filter basket, exactly as you mentioned would have wanted. 2) the carafe is very infamous for never being able to pour out the last drop, no matter how much you tilt it. Which also means it is hard to clean. 3) that model (and their others) have a pre-infusion/bloom setting: hold down the power trigger for 5 seconds until the red light blinks. If bloom mode is on, the red light will blink throughout the brew, rather than stay on a solid red as it was shown in this video. 4) more a general point, but the bloom phase is really only important for rather fresh beans. In my experience, after about 2 weeks from roast date, the bloom makes little to no difference.

@jilly7306

Жыл бұрын

The Bonavita 8 Cup I think only has the slide in filter basket, we have the 5 cup and it sits on top of the carafe.

@mynameissang

Жыл бұрын

@@jilly7306 For the 8 cup, there are 2 models: the 1900 has the filter basket sit on the carafe, the 1901 is the newer model with a slide in filter basket. Both models are still being sold.

@kingcormack8004

Жыл бұрын

As great as the Bonavita has been for me, the carafe problem on the 1900 is silly. The lid on mine is showing wear but it took 5-6 years. Great value.

@Meyerc-yv2bi

Жыл бұрын

The new Bonavitas with the sliding filter basket is called the Connoisseur, but it is ONLY available in the 8 cup version (glass and metal carafe). The 5 cup model still has the basket on the top of the carafe. Bonavita is also making a new generation machine called the Enthusiast, but they are getting pricey.

@LarryGottschalk

9 ай бұрын

Ours also leaked water into the inner walls of the carafe while cleaning - you could hear it sloshing around after it was empty. Other than that (and that's pretty bad) it was great.

The Bonavita was America’s Test Kitchen choice for a budget brewer, so I got one and love it. Oddly, in the one I bought, the basket doesn’t rest on the carafe, it fits into a slot under the brew head, floating above the carafe, so you just pull out the carafe when it’s done and put the top on. The top rests on the water tank when it’s brewing and for storage- since the whole machine is relatively short, there’s no problem storing it there.

@Meyerc-yv2bi

Жыл бұрын

Do you have the glass carafe Bonavita? Also, is it the 5 cup or 8 cup model?

@RSidneyB

Жыл бұрын

@@Meyerc-yv2bi 8 cup. Though to be accurate, Bonavita calls 5 ounces a cup, so it’s a 40 ounce carafe.

@RSidneyB

Жыл бұрын

Stainless carafe.

@AT1754

3 ай бұрын

I’ve had 3 bonavitas. Two glass carat and one stainless steel. The thermal sucked since it retains coffee and you can never get it all out. They don’t last very long, and since they got purchased their cs is terrible so went went Moccamaster. Loved the Bonavita and the mm I’m holding out the opinion on because it’s so different I am having trouble dialing it in

@mkyhou1160

3 ай бұрын

I’ve had the bonavita stainless for a few years. I love how simple it is, yeah you have to screw in the lid, but my experience is that part often breaks on other machines.

The first one, i used for years, until an Ex stole it from me, I swear by the Moccamaster. That NINJA is "NOT" the way to go, that thing is faulty garbage quality. It is prone to consistent leaking, clogged tubing, faulty wiring (fire hazard warning), and just flat out stops working after a year or so even if you don't run into any of the previous problems with it.

I have a Bonavita that has lasted over 10 years and still makes a great cup of coffee. I do the cleaning cycle once a year or so, use filtered water every time, and it has been flawless.

@kingcormack8004

Жыл бұрын

Same here. Going on year 7.

We have the Ninja brewer that we purchased in March 2021. This year the digital display stopped working, so we no longer can program. Definitely going to get a new coffee maker, so thank you for this honest review.

If you have the best coffee to water ratio,the right grind size,correct water temp,then you have good coffee, if you like the coffee you chose.

Great reviews. Appreciated your insight and honesty. I’ve been doing French press and pour over but would like to try this to save time. Based on your reaction to the coffee I’m looking to get the Bonavita. 😊

Wow, wonderful video quality and content! I wasn't expecting that with so few subs. Great job!

Have used the Bonavita several times a day for four years now and never fails to make a great cup of coffee. Thanks for the entertaining and informative review.

This video is so informative, I really needed it. Thank you.

I have the 5 cup version of the Bonavita. I hated the metal carafe and screwing on the lid and having to do something with the brewer basket right away. I now love my Bonavita since I bought a glass carafe for it. I love seeing the coffee and coffee level through the glass and sort of use the brewer basket as a lid to help keep the coffee warm.

@Dogsnark

Жыл бұрын

I agree. I prefer the glass carafe for those same reasons. Also, the metal carafe really needs to be rinsed with hot water before brewing to bring it to temp. Unless you’re going to have your coffee sit around for awhile before pouring, I don’t see the advantage of the metal carafe.

@pschroeter1

Жыл бұрын

@@Dogsnark It I remember correctly, the first metal carafe I had leaked and I told Bonavita and they sent me a new one, which I still didn't like for the reasons I mentioned.

Excellent review for we laypersons. Excuse my poor French but you are (facile à regarder), easy to watch. I have viewed this video twice and it helped me decide which coffee maker is best for moi.

I've had the Moccamaster for 3 years now, same model, same color. I put the carafe in the dishwasher once a week and nothing has happened so far. (This said, I think European dishwashers tend to be a little more gentle than big North American dishwashers.) And I pimped it with a third-party gadget: a disk with holes in it that distributes the water more equally over the grounds. This, and a very consistent grind with little to no fines in it has added to the already impressive quality of the coffee. I've owned a number of European coffee machines (Braun, Krups, Melitta...) but the Moccamaster beats them all hands down. (I haven't tried newer Melitta models though.)

I actually had a ninja as my last before my current one; the filter did NOT detach - though it was supposed to as a listed feature on the box. Other than that one point it actually lasted me like 2 years without problems. Which to that point had been my most consistently reliable coffee maker experience. My current one is a Mr. Coffee, and I have to say for $50 with maybe a bit of tax from Walmart, I'm pretty impressed with it so far. The brand according to another coffee "snob" doing tests with different brands I watched about a year ago to research which brand I should invest in when I needed a replacement, also relayed that Mr. Coffee is either the first or one of the very first brands of coffee makers in general. Back even into I believe around the 60's or the 70's (whenever coffee started becoming more widely available/popular. I admit I don't recall offhand) So with that in mind, it doesn't surprise me that the brand knows how to make a good tasting cup of coffee. They wouldn't have survived as a company this long if the product sucked. My sister is better off financially and has a Breville she swears by, but $250 plus tax for only god knows how long it would function is a bit too much of a price tag for my wallet. I will say, if you ever do one cup coffee makers - don't bother with Black & Decker. I wasn't that impressed with it; and it only lasted a whole month of use. Even at about $20 it wasn't really worth the thrift in the purchase. I would personally say a market between $50 - $150 really should serve most peoples' needs as far as good and reliable coffee made. Also... with a name like Danny Pops, I'd figure you'd be more into testing Soda makers ; )

@Dukerdr

8 ай бұрын

Love my digital Mr Coffee. I bought one after an old B+D died 14 years ago as a test. It worked great! I could set the timer the night before and get up to great coffee. $65.00 and I was happy. Water comes out at 200 degrees and the warming plate keeps it hot for 2 hours. When it burned out 5 years ago, I went right back and bought another one!

I’ve had a Bonavita for over a year. I, too, was a pour over coffee person. This machine is very consistent and easy. On a morning I have to get out the door at 530 I can set the coffee maker up the night before and just switch it on and get dressed. Lovely.

@joebass5163

7 ай бұрын

I have mine on a smart plug. I can prep the night before and turn on the switch and the plug is scheduled to turn on and boom fresh brewed coffee before I head out the door. I use the Kasa plugs.

Thanks for validating the purchase of my Bonavita. I’ve been happy with it.

Mr. Coffee all the way! Fewest moving parts, best taste. Forty years, replacing mine every so often. No need to reinvent the original.

What a great and fun video, superbly done. Super fun, super informative

I agree! For a single cup, I just use my Melitta plastic brewer & a #2 filter. I know exactly how much to grind to make a perfect cup. For more cups I use an old Cuisenart brewer with a thermos carafe. Always brews good coffee.

I came across your video and found it is entertaining and informative. I have the $20 Mr Coffee. Remove the pot. I stand guard on the initial brewing water spurts are guided by my tablespoon. I get the “blooming” effect allowing the urn filter get “soaked “ grounds then replace the pot and allow the brewing cycle to completion.

You guys are so cute! I have been using a Mr. Coffee forever. Try a permanent filter with a paper one under. That and stop the coffee after about 30 seconds and then start it again after a minute to give it time to bloom and it is quite amazing the difference. Also mine definitely shuts off after an hour or so.

Have no experience with the Moccamaster, but I have a Bonavita 1900TS. I like it a lot. I will be replacing mine with maybe the Bonavita Enthusiast. I like that it has the detachable reservoir. I originally bought the 5 cup, returned it and bought the 8 cup so that I could fit my travel mug under it. I place the basket on my mug and let it do it's thing. Works great for me.

I’ve watched this by accident, because I previously binged lots of your Marshall Vids (which led me to buy two Willens❤). I have to say, you are THE ONLY KZreadr to actually mention the Moccamasters wobbly lid. I have that coffeemaker, the wobble is the first thing I noticed and I’ve not seen it mentioned anywhere else. It doesn’t take away from the usability, obviously, but like you said: for that amount of money, it sure would have been nice to have it sit flush. Anyway, keep up the great work! Greetings from Berlin, Germany!

@DannyPops

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for chiming in! The wobbly lid infuriates me haha. So glad to hear feedback. Gives me motivation to keep going.

I've had a few and the Bonavita definitely made the best coffee i've ever had at home. Problem is, its not very reliable, i've had 2 that broke after a year (and of course has only 1 year warranty). Was going to go for a 3rd just because I love how good the coffee is but can't justify that much money for 1 to 2 years of use only. Ended up deciding on Ratio Six for my next maker, getting in in a few weeks. More expensive but a 5 year warranty so I expect a few years out of it which if it does last 5 years, means I don't have to buy 2 Bonavitas!

@pilgrim81

Жыл бұрын

I had the Bonavita which didn't last long at all for the price. I've tossed many coffee pots over the years that couldn't be repaired. The Moccamaster seems to be the one for me. 5 year warranty, replacement parts or the company will repair after warranty for a reasonable fee. Great cup of coffee.

@Dave004

Жыл бұрын

@@pilgrim81 ya I was going back and forth between the Ratio Six and Moccamaster. Just chose Ratio cause it was a little cheaper ($400 Canadian vs $463 for Moccamaster) and my sister has a Ratio Eight and I've used it a few times and its great so figured the Six would be pretty similar. I'd hope any coffee maker with a 5 year warranty does so because they believe in their products more than most that only give a 1 or 2 year.

@Scoop2992

Жыл бұрын

I am on my second Bonavita. They replaced the first under warranty. I also own a Moccamaster, but use the Bonavita as my daily driver.

I have a Ninja CE251 which I think is identical to the CE200. I use Bunn coffee filters rather than the screened filter that comes with the unit and I pour hot water into the water container to give it a boost on brew time and heat. The Starbucks Verona Dark Roast I use has a good taste. The machines works and the taste depends on the coffee used. Its not a life changer but I'm good for now. Thanks for the review.

This is our second K-Classic. We had our first one for many years, so when we had to replace it, we wanted nothing else but this exact kzread.infoUgkxBrV-RbF5Nk0Rlt9i15aao-YMzqzTG8Vf model. We use it for about three people everyday in the morning. The taste and quick brew is one of the reasons we like it so much. There are so many choices of brands of coffee that we would grab what was on sale and test the different brands from there. I would definitely recommend trying different brands of coffee to find the ones you like the most because there are brands that quite frankly taste horrible.

I have owned 2 Bonavita Connoisseur 8 cup machines. The first one lasted 3.5 years. Replaced the carafe lid once as the lever to pour broke. Then the plastic of the reservoir crazed and cracked. The second one lasted 2 years before the lever on the carafe lid broke yesterday. We loved the coffee brewed by these machines, but the low quality of the materials and the design flaws have been too much. I ordered an OXO 8 cup to replace it and I hope to have better luck this time.

But you never tested the OXO 8 cup. I just bought it because it's got everything on it I wanted and many, many very positive reviews. Also many people have upgraded from the Bonavita which over time they had issues with. Everyone who'd purchased the OXO 8 cup really liked or loved it. I do too! Best coffee maker I've ever owned by far.

@DannyPops

Жыл бұрын

I'll have to see if I can grab it for cyber Monday

@sollym7263

Жыл бұрын

@@deerhealer6193 hmm this has not been my experience, I wonder if your machine has a heating issue. I’d get a replacement if I were you. I can’t find any negatives and have had mine for 3 years now, still working great. Only thing I need to upgrade is a better Burr grinder, still rock’n cuisine art’s which has worked fine, gets the job done, just not as evenly ground as I’d like.

@sollym7263

Жыл бұрын

Just measured the temp on a fresh brew in the carafe a min. After it finished. 183 deg F.

@DannyPops

Жыл бұрын

@Solly M if it's in the carafe, that may be the cooled temp or if it's fresh drippings it should probably be a bit hotter?

@KonaGal

11 ай бұрын

My maker lasted a short time till the basket hinge broke and never able to make another cup of coffee

Just upgraded from Ninja CE200 to the moccamaster. Why? Ninja only lasted a year before the components fried, so if you dont mind possibly spending 80-100/year on a new pot, then by all means. And thats after owning the ninja toaster, blender, slow cooker, so the coffee pot was a BIG disappointment that it failed with regular use. Turns out that failure after a year on the ninja is a VERY common issue. the 5 year warrantee on moccmaster, plus mostly user servicable was a HUGE selling point.

I made pour over coffee for 16 years, starting way before it was cool. Four years ago I upgraded to what is generally considered automated pour over, the Bonavita. I have not missed the pour over ritual.

So I have the Moccamaster with the carafe which you could have opted for. I did spring for an aftermarket showerhead which does a better job of wetting the grounds. No automatic bloom phase in my older one. I do brew into my 20 ounce Zojirushi travel carafe which is the best for temperature retention in the dozens I have tested. Maybe I will try the Bonavista...

I have had two Moccamasters and two of the Bonavita models over the past 15 years, and I agree that they're both very good. The main differences are cost (the Moccamaster is occasionally on sale) and usability. I like being able to stir the grounds while the Moccamaster is starting, and the carafe has a pour-through lid. You mentioned nearly all of the hassles that annoyed me most about the Bonavita. Screwing the lid on and pressing the thumb lever every time you finish a batch and pour a cup seems like an unnecessary nuisance when you're brewing 2+ pots per day, every day. I just want to pour it out and go, if I'm not leaving coffee in the carafe. And while the lid is on, the carafe won't fit under the brew basket, which means you need to unscrew the lid in order to store the carafe on the machine for storage. My older Bonavitas had terrible pouring, but it looks like they redesigned the spout. If they fix the lid issue, it would be hard to justify spending more on anything else.

@silk2949

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for your comment. I always look for reviews/comments from people that have used both makes. 16:30 We have been using Bonavita for more than 6 years and love our coffee. I soooooo want the Moccamaster, but oh the cost! None of the Bonavita “issues” bother me…so I guess I will stick with Bonavita.

@msk3905

Жыл бұрын

We have two moccamaster’s and all I can say is that this thing looks fantastic and performs better than any other coffee maker i have owned! Hands down the hottest coffee we ever home brewed and best tasting! Huh we wash our carafe in dishwasher often about 5 years in and still in one piece?

@AT1754

3 ай бұрын

@@silk2949I’ve had 3 Bonavitas and switched to Moccamaster. Loved bonativa but for me they never lasted long. Just recently switched to mm, and it’s so different it’s frustrating. You would think since they both say they heat to the correct temp it would be the same but the grind baskets are different. If your Bonavita is still going strong stick with it

@silk2949

3 ай бұрын

@@AT1754 I had to think hard to remember this review and my comment! After a couple of years of watching Moccamaster prices, I finally got one at about $200 off the original price. I definitely spent some time adjusting my grind but all good with the Moccamaster now. My 4th Bonavita was dying, the prices had gone up and the quality seemed to have gone down by the comments I read. With the Moccamaster on sale the difference in cost was only about $100 …. So I managed to justified the purchase to myself! In the end I don’t think the taste is all that different from the Bonavita, but the fact that the Moccamaster is repairable is another one of my justifications. Also, it just looks so cool compared to all other coffee makers! Happy Coffee Drinking!

Haha very entertaining. It makes sense you guys liked the Mr. Coffee. You said it was super smooth. Brewing at low temps makes it less acidic

I routinely run my Moccamaster carafe through the dishwasher. No problems ever.

Thanks for the great review. For me I own 2 different brewers one in our main residence and one at the cottage on the lake. Both brewers have a glass carafe. At our home we have a Melitta Vision. This is by far the best brewer I have ever owned. At the cottage we have the Ninja model you tested. This brewer also makes a very good pot of coffee. We only purchase brewers with a glass carafe for several reasons. First is that the brewers are less expensive. Second the performance of the stainless thermal carafes that come with the brewers are not on par with a glass lined thermal carafe that you can purchase separately at a much lower cost. Right after brewing we transfer the brewed coffee into one of those and shut the coffee .machine off. While this may seem like an inconvenience we have found we are able to enjoy hot coffee much longer into the day. We have also found that the price of the Technovorm Mocamaster to be just ludicrous, no mater how good of a brew it claims to be able to make. As one of the other commenters stated you should be able to find a good coffee brewer between the $100.00 - $200.00 range.

Fantastic video! I love that you tested the Redline. I've had mine for a couple of years now and I think it makes great tasting, Hot coffee. Pressing the power button for 5+ seconds engages the bloom mode which is how it'll brew each time until button held in again. Anyway, maybe my particular machine was made a bit better? lol. I don't think I would like the Mr. Coffee. I need my coffee to be hot and that model comes nowhere close to hot. That obviously did not bother either of you though. Can you pls review the Tredy 2-in-1 Pour Over 2-cup maker if you haven't already? Its $40+ price tag has me tempted. Thx!

Great video! I personally only drink from a Lavazza Blue espresso machine. Paid $49 and it pulls a nice shot with plenty of crema.

I've been using an older version of the Mr Coffee and got dramatically better results with these hacks: 1. Fill the reservoir with boiling hot water instead of cold. That helps bring the brew temperature closer to where it should be. 2. Save a little of that hot water to evenly pour over the grounds to bloom. That will help disperse the brew water over the grounds better. Wait 45 seconds then start the brew. Thank you to James Hoffman for these hacks!

I’ve had my Bonavita for approximately 5 years. The problem we’ve had is the screw on lid that fits over the stainless carafe retains coffee which you have to rinse out. Unfortunately it has left a rancid residue which we can’t remove no matter how much we soak in cleaners or descaling solution. It smells awful and ruins our coffee experience. Our stainless carafe is glass lined so it cleans easily with dish soap and soft sponge. The newer carafes are stainless lined which will also leave a coffee residue unless periodically cleaned with coffee cleaning solution like a stainless thermos. This becomes annoying because you have to boil these cleaners and let it sit in carafe for an hour or so. Otherwise the Bonavita has performed well. One important factor in excellent coffee making is keeping the brewer clean and free of smelly rancid coffee residues. I contacted Bonavita about a new carafe lid but they said I’d have to purchase a new carafe. Guess it’s time we bring up the new Moccamaster we’ve stored in the basement!

Tip: I do not listen to the manufacture about cool water in the machine when brewing. I use the hottest tap water my heater produces at my sink That give the machine a head start on brewing and I don't use the bold brewing option as it slows down the brewing process making the water become cooler than is should to brew a good cup of coffee.

I’ve had 3 Bonavitas. I hated the thermal carafe. I prefer the glass with the heat plate, and I loved it. I know they say don’t do a heat plate but I don’t leave it on for very long. I will say I had to go through 3 of them in 6 years. They don’t last long. Customer service used to be great until the got bought out. So I switched to mm. It’s been frustrating for me to get it dialed in but I think finally getting it. I’ve had a Mr coffee and had no issues with that either. Agreed it was always smooth for me. I’m no coffee snob though so as long as it’s good then I don’t care what machine made it. I also had the ninja when I was first released. My ex took that and she just replaced it 9 years later with the same updated model she loved it so much. I thought it was fine but inconsistent. Some times tasted burnt, sometimes good and sometimes great

The coffee cup I use holds 2 measured cups of coffee. I use the better version Mr Coffee than the one you have here. In the morning, I blend the whole pot putting 7 measured cups of water in the machine. Not sure what the numbers are on the pot but they mean nothing that I see. It is sold as a 12 cup coffee machine. I does NOT hold that much water. Maybe 12 tee cups. I grind my own coffee and I also mix the brands at times. This morning I put two scoops of Starbucks and two scoops of Folgers in the machine. I was a very tactful cup. Mr. Coffee machine tends not to get the water all the way around the filter when brewing. I use the round re-usable stainless basket and NOT paper filters. When I start the brewing, I stand at the machine and turn the basket a few times allowing the water to cover all of the coffee. When all of the coffee is covered and the water is floating. I close the lid and allow it to finish. When the machine finished, I turn it off keeping the burner from cooking my coffee. I have a lot of fun mixing coffee brands and sometimes you hit the perfect one. Remember, no two people taste coffee the same. It is all about your preference.

I love you guys! I love my Bonavita with a glass carafe!!!

When they were pouring out of the Bonavita, it looked like straight water!

I have a very cheap single cup brewer that makes great coffee. But, only if you stop it and let the coffee bloom. Then I stop it about halfway through and agitate the grounds. It's a little hassle, but so worth it! The lid has a micro switch that stops the brew and you have full access to the little basket. I am glad I found this little brewer.

@DannyPops

Жыл бұрын

what coffee maker is it?

@Kro_man_tx

Жыл бұрын

@@DannyPops It literally has no model info on it. It is from Walmart, it was 19.99. It can accept ground coffee or pods. Has two little inserts, one stainless basket and the pod adapter. There are two settings, one button for pods, and the other for ground coffee

I have the mr coffee and the grounds like to overflow into the brew. Especially if take the carafe out for too long. Tucking a second filter on top of the coffee helps contain it but I'm tired of it and going to get the Ninja 14 cup.

The bonavita metropolitan has the separate piece that is not attached to the carafe. The key feature about bonavita is the water comes out like a shower over the coffee. Mister coffee only comes out in one spot, not in the middle, so coffee does not get saturated evenly.

I have your cup in teal. I love using it, it reminds me of these fun videos.

It goes to show you that you don’t need an expensive coffee maker to have great tasting coffee. I like my first cup of morning coffee to be strong enough to slap me awake. I drink my coffee black, my wife thought she had to have milk or cream until she finally tried it black, now it black also because she said that you get the true taste of the coffee. She has her late Mother’s clear Pyrex coffee pot that you put on the stove. You guys need to drink campfire coffee, it’s the best. 👏👏👏y’all

I bought a Bonavita a year ago and loved the coffee taste. But in one year it developed a leak from under the machine and I had a puddle of water all over my counter. I didn't want to spend a lot on another machine and got a cheap Mr. Coffee with a stainless steel basket and a blade grinder. Coffee, in my opinion, was surprisingly very good. Unless you're a coffee snob go with a less expensive machine. The coffee will be just as good and you'll save a lot of money.

The Bonavita was just too loud, and I agree about the lid being something that would get lost. I’m still in search of a brewer, just doing pour-over until I find something I like.

I have had the Bonavita for 7 years. It makes a great cup of coffee. The basket that sits on the carafe is annoying but worth it for the good coffee.

If you pour hot water into the mr coffee and as it’s brewing stir the basket, it works really well.

I have pretty much that same bonavita. Basically happy with it but I do notice that the carafe really does NOT keep it as hot for as long as I'd like (and I do tend to preheat the carafe with a bit of hot water). And oddly, after coffee has been in the carafe for a couple of hours, it still has a bit of that 'sitting around' flavor, like maybe some of the water has steamed out of it. I'm not sure why this is the case, since it's not sitting on a burner.

I’m curious to l Is if you have tested and compared the OXO coffee maker with some of your other favorites.

Love the content thank you!

Very enjoyable video!! Especially the Mr. Coffee machine!! LOL. Everything just points to bad!! hahaha

Great video. Entertaining couple and informative.

Nice review of the coffeemakers! Wish you had included the prices for each.

@ilsipalacios440

Жыл бұрын

And how easy or difficult those are to clean

I have owned a few quality coffee machines. A deal breaker for me is units that have a hot plate and glass carafe. It is well known the enemy of coffee is heat, this is the reason why coffee at work tastes like crap after it has sat on the hot plate for some time. The better units have a carafe that really is a double walled vacuum thermos with no hot plate. This is the best way to keep leftover coffee warm. In fact for my motorhome, after using a glass french press resulting in cold second cups of coffee, I went out and spent a ridiculous amount on a double walled, vacuum sealed carafe french press (Bodum). I could come back 45 minutes later for my second cup and the coffee was still hot/warm.

Hot plates are an automatic no-no. Insulated carafes are a must unless you like burnt coffee.

@DannyPops

Жыл бұрын

Good point, i decided to upload this point after your comment with my take. kzread.info/dash/bejne/o5OWqtCgnamYito.html

That ce200 will have the clock panel fail in about a year. I'm actually watching your video researching a replacement for the Ninja.

I like the Breville Precision -- you can customize water temp and bloom time, or brew a preset program (SCA's gold cup standard for example).

@DannyPops

Жыл бұрын

I've heard a lot of good things about Breville and I really liked their toaster design. Thanks for adding to the collective here!

I have had more difficulty with expensive coffee makers than the cheap storebrand ones, they only last me about a year and then I have to replace it and that’s with maintaining it descaling and cleaning

I have had Bonavita & now, Moccamaster. Chose the glass carafe model because is it easy to wash the glass & lid. Brushed stainless is very difficult to keep spotless/fresh. I remove tank/brew basket lids and stir the coffee breifly. This sinks floaters and evenly wets grinds. Not necessary but result like a Chemex without the hassle. My espresso is Crossland CC1from Pantechnicon Design. Alll coffee ground for each machine moments before brewing.

@slam854

Жыл бұрын

Bonavita uses a thermobloc heater which will calcify even with recommended descaling (all will). The Moccamaster is all copper and easy to descale effectively. Last a lifetime!

I have the Ninja and love it. I bought it because of the removable water reservoir. I can 't use the permanent coffee filter since I have a septic tank and coffee grounds don't break down and decompose.

@johnkieran7936

Жыл бұрын

I have septic and when I use my machine I just dump the grounds in the garbage.

@Bandaid17

Жыл бұрын

Or compost them. No one should be dumping coffee grounds in the drain even if you are on city sewer.

That's funny you liked the Mr Coffee. We were impreessed with a $15 mr coffee 4 cup machine in a hotel room and bought one and used it for a few years. We currently have a Bonavita, and it is ok, our favorite feature is not cooking the coffee further with the hot plate. Our model has the filter basket attached to the base rather than the carrafe. We find the coffee to be good, but it brews a little fast and doesn't get the best extraction, you can adjust the grind but that makes it taste muddy. Our favorite cup comes from a Zojirushi unit.

@DannyPops

Жыл бұрын

I've been wanting to check out the zojurshi since I have their rice cooker!

@Raven5763

Жыл бұрын

@Danny Pops That's why i bought it and have been impressed.

You should have bought the Bonavita Connoisseur model, it would have answered your question of, "Where do you put the filter holder after brewing?"

i don’t mind those reusable filters but they do affect the taste of the coffee, they’ll tend to allow more fines and oils through, so that may account for flavour. OTOH, it’s worth rinsing paper filters to avoid paper taste

I’m not a fan of thermal carafes-I prefer to see how much coffee is left in the carafe after the first few cups are poured. I have been using a BonaVita for over 10 years now and it performs great. However, cleaning the water reservoir is a bit problematic. If, and when, I replace my coffee maker it will be with a glass carafe/heat pad model of the BonaVita.

At 13:40-45, is that coffee she’s pouring off Bona Vita carafe? It looks very clear like you know, 😊 water

Im happy i picked the bonavita a few years ago 😁

cheaper ones are better if you like dark roast coffee. or if you put cream and sugar in. Also for $40 you can get a zojirushi carafe that will keep your coffee warmer than any other pot or carafe

you guys put so much effort into production, but why no footage from your POV, into the brewers? Even just getting some with your phone and splicing it in would be nice. Thanks for all the info

Mr. Coffee pots brew at cooler temperatures that may be why it’s milder and tastes best.

A couple of observations. Both of you had really high expectations from the Tecnovorm and that's it didnt blow you away. OTOH you didnt really think Mr.Coffee would stand a chance among these Goliaths. But it must have done to a surprising degree. That's you were so impressed. Secondly I observed that that what I came out of the Bonavita carafe looked like plain water. Correct me if I am wrong. Towards the end, it really looked like you both were on coffee high 😀😀

Your info about the Mr Coffee maker being the best in the blind taste test and another coffee maker (I don't recall which one) being good then bad and the called "inconsistent" and yet another that you can't explain why it tadtes so good all prove that the coffee maker doesn't really matter much and you make to much of it. The coffe itself and the ratio of coffee/water is the most important.

I have used everything you reviewed except Redline: Liked Bonavita the best, but plastics on carafe cracked. Also did not like changing lid as you pointed out. Personally I'd give anything with a thermal carafe extra points because you rapidly burn coffee on a hot plate. Nice honest reviews. Would seriously consider xoxo 8 cup in future

@DannyPops

Жыл бұрын

I've been hearing the Oxo doesn't get to temp, but i am seriously considering checking it out. The bona still lives in my kitchen.

@kingcormack8004

Жыл бұрын

@@DannyPops The OXO gets the New York Times Wirecutter's best maker but I haven't tried it.

The bitterness from the Ninja is caused from the long brew time. The grounds are in the water for too long.

Great video!, 😃 I've seen many blind test of coffee makers and Mr. coffee always performs well, go figure?. 🤔 I have a cheap Mr. coffee, ( $30 ) and it turns off after 2hrs on it's own, but it's time for an upgrade!. I can't afford the Moccamaster, so it's the Bonavita for me, I appreciate the great advice!. Thank you! Peace! ☮

We have a Mr. Coffee and we love it.

Do I see New Mexico Pinion Coffee sitting there on your counter? That's really good coffee.

I find the Mr. Coffee review to be amazing. It's almost like you are afraid to like the cheapest machine that "experts" wouldn't agree with, even if you liked the coffee the best. in about 15-20k more cups of coffee, you'll realize the opinions of others regarding personal taste do not matter, but what you actually like is most important.

@mythbusta52

Жыл бұрын

As someone who is a bit of a coffee nerd with many different brewers, including the Moccamaster, I agree with you. What tastes good to you may not for everyone else. Folgers may be the perfect cup for some people, but others thing it tastes like old dish water. I love my fancy home setup and going to coffee shops, but the coffee from a waffle house or my local diner hits right sometimes too.

@CascadesHomebrew

Жыл бұрын

​@@mythbusta52 I am a bit of a coffee nerd and mostly make espresso drinks with a Gaggia Classic and Baratza Sette 270 grinder. My dad makes a solid cup of coffee with a Bunn using cans of Folgers pre-ground coffee. I had a Bunn for a while (until it died). I tend to use a French Press when I want something other than a Latte or Americano, but that Bonavita looks tempting. I will admit that I have enjoyed many a cup of coffee with pods.

I do not like coffee, but my parents love it. Mom one cup a day and dad 3 cups a day, me 0 cups per day. For years they relied on the Farberware Percolator ( 8-cup model). One day dad come home with the 'NEW' Mr. Coffee coffee maker, endorse by none other than Yankee Great, and Marilyn Monroe's husband Joe DeMaggio, My parents really tried, probably over most of a year, they drank the Mr. Coffee coffee, but after a year the Mr. Coffee was 'again' ( as other coffee makers were, with the percolator.) replaced with the Farberware percolator. My mom said Mr. Coffee tasted weak. Maybe she like the bitterness???? I wouldn't know because I've never experienced the 'sweetness' that James Hoffmann describes in his videos. All I can report is mom and dad did no like Mr. Coffee because it was too weak. Farberware won out! (at that time). Would have been nice if I could have served my mom and dad with your Bonavita pick Thanks for the video.

We drink a LOT of coffee in our house and have tried them all. Our Ninja Coffee Bar has been a game changer. It's lasted WAY longer than anything else and has all of the features we wanted. We can make single cups, a carafe and everything in between. For lazy mornings, we can have it programmed. It does tea, froths milks and so much more. We've been really, really happy with it. The Bonavita is the best cup of coffee - hands down. But the smaller carafe and lack of ability to program it means it sits in our storage area as a backup machine.

The carafe isn't dishwasher safe. So I think that means that the plastic you're placing on the warmer and running hot water through isn't heat-resistant.

Try the Aeropress. While you're at it, try an old glass percolator.

Technivorm does make a metal carafe version of the Moccamaster.

Could you please recommend an espresso machine in which the hot water does not come into contact with any plastic? (~$2000 budget)

@DannyPops

4 ай бұрын

Almost every machine has plastic tubes inside so I don't think it's possible. One alternative for coffee might be doing pour over style or even a manual pull espresso machine.