Hi Ramsey and folks...well, i am that Brian, Ramsey is talking about! I remember that fight very well..It was against Isamura (not sure if I spell his name right?) Talented guy with heavy karate and even some Huang-gar kung-fu and BJJ background and for sure familiar with a cage..I think it was the very first time you Ramsey and me we meet..! Thank for your kind words of my skills. Indeed the fight was nearly as you described. But I need to correct some small things here. OK, the fight started and I used my Wingchun stance but not in IRAS , but a foot forward ...Isamura throw heavy big swinging punches to me and i got actually zero hit, because I used Wingchun principles..not so much techniques. One principles is what I also teach my students to keep the head back but the hands far forward..We have one hand far forward ( Man-Sao = searching hand) and the other a bit closer to the body but loaded as a spring. I see a fight like a war..just in the smallest constellation..Means the armee is in the front ( my arms) and the general (Head, who takes the decisions, back on the sofa..haha) Well, that is where i used a Wingchun concept but Ramsey couldn't"t know, because he didn't know Wingchun and therefore couldn't know the concepts...But indeed I have significantly background in Muay-Thai ( not only a bit Ramsey..16 years ;) ) And indeed, it saved my ass a lot too. And I knew from the beginning, that I cannot use pure Wingchun in that fight, because I don't even know, how that guy gonna fight me. So, the concept of Wingchun was, to get nearly not hit..that worked Ramsey..actually I got nearly NO punches or kicks from Isamura and I used the knees as we use in Muay-Thai or even in Wingchun in close clinch range ( Elbows were not allowed) But on the ground i did an arm-bar (In side-mount) but he was also very strong, so I had to put his arm down with the help of my inner thighs, close to my knee and that was again from the basic stance in Wingchun. Also I used Paak-da..means whenever he punched I blocked his punch (Paak) and simultaneous I punched (Da) with the other hand above and landed a strike. Also this is a Wingchun principle..two attacked the same time! And when he try to shoot a single or even double I didn't sprawl( how do write that?) because I didn't want to end up on the ground (Again Wingchun principle) but rather did the Chum-kiu step back with Gaam-sao to his head or neck to make him stay away..all Wingchun applications. But for sure I could have never won or survived a fight against such a strong opponent, without my fighting background which i gained in Muay-Thai and Jiu-jiutsu! And I added that sparring straight to my classes and also taught my students how to deal with Muay-Thai kicks and punches..Because they are a real threat!!! But thanks again Ramsey to take this fight as an example here and I am honored by your words. Too sad I never received the recordings of he fight. I ask Silas several times to give it to me, but he had stupid excuses why he lost it. I bet, he didn't like, that one of his top fighters losta fight and he didn't want it airborned...haha But Ramsey..it not that it woke me aup and all of sudden I had to change all my styles and got disappointed that Wingchun didn't work. First of all the principles of Wingchun worked but in a cage where different rules apply, you cannot apply pure Wingchun ..but I knew it before! I would never be so crazy ( as many are) and step with only Wingchun skills and zero fighting skills in a ring...insane!!! So, just to let you all know here..I wasn't surprised, neither disappointed or whatever..I knew, what I am doing there and thats it!!! Best regards to all..and good Video as always Ramsey...keep rocking ! Brian

@RamseyDewey

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for clarifying Brian! I’m pinning this comment.

@brian4855

4 жыл бұрын

Awesome Ramsey .. thx .. have a great day .. best regards Brian

@makinamuerte7590

4 жыл бұрын

So you're saying your opponent landed ZERO strikes on you? N not to be rude but sounds like your wing Chun principles are the same basic principles of any martial arts lol. Also. What is German Jiu Jujitsu? Obviously its jiu Jujitsu from Germany lol but how is it different? Just curious.

@lazur1

4 жыл бұрын

@@makinamuerte7590".....nearly no...."

@redeyejedi3753

3 жыл бұрын

Maybe next time, can we get the "wife of Bruce Lee's description" ? Lol! Thank you for taking the time to give us a more intimate feel for the challenge you faced. I recognize the divinity in you

"Most of the people practicing these traditional styles are not good athletes, and in order to be a good fighter, you need to be a good athlete." You ain't never lied👍🏽

@RK-um2bj

6 ай бұрын

Complete truth. I used to think I was a karate stud til someone smashed my face in, it was my Wong jack man moment lol

I have been in six brutal streetfights before I was 29 and happy to say I survived every one. What I learned is that I have no desire to ever be in another fight again. My best self defense advice is don't hang out with stupid people, doing stupid things at stupid times. This requires no training and will help you avoid 99.9% of stupid fights in your life.

@Llucius1

3 жыл бұрын

Yup , fighting in real life is actually very dangerous. I have been fighting in my childhood and I am lucky that I only mess up a little of my bone structure and no one break my leg or something. I know from a very young age , just use weapons.

@todds.6451

3 жыл бұрын

I seem to remember Mr. Miyagi of the Karate Kid saying something like, "Best defense in a fight: no be there when it happens."

@siddified

3 жыл бұрын

@@Llucius1 I don't think that's what he meant

@leewightman8001

2 жыл бұрын

Iv been in about 13 14 street fights lost a few but still hear

@lordoffaiyum9727

2 жыл бұрын

Facts

"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth." - Mike Tyson

@andrel8243

5 жыл бұрын

Hello. I world like to have your opinion about jeet kune do techniques. Thanks

@riggtravis8147

5 жыл бұрын

@@andrel8243 Heres mine you dont want your hands out trying to trap someone who knows how to punch

@undeadblackjack

5 жыл бұрын

@@andrel8243 Hello Andre. Jeet Kune do's principle is the basis for MMA. The techniques of Jeet Kune Do were what Bruce Lee has learned at the time so some of them will be out of date. However, the idea of Jeet Kune Do is to adapt and learn everything that works. There is no "Boxing vs Tai Chi" You have to know and understand the purposes and limitations of both, because all is necessary.

@doomhead3170

5 жыл бұрын

@@undeadblackjack well said take what useful and disregard the useless

@royalflush4789

5 жыл бұрын

@@andrel8243 it doesn't work

This is equivalent to me studying all night theories and methods of solving maths problems but not actually solving before exams just to get knocked out in actual exam. Because, I never actually solved them under time pressure.

wow. so many fractured egos here. just because Bruce Lee wasn't superman...just remember, he decided to learn boxing, TKD kicks, judo and some grappling, because he knew he had holes in his technique. After that, he went for a new way of fighting. JKD...

@mariustuca6221

5 жыл бұрын

I say you are poorly informed JKD is based on 80% WING CHUN.

@DaleKamp

5 жыл бұрын

Far less than 80%. Boxing, fencing, Filipino Kali and many others were factored in.

@mineabou

5 жыл бұрын

antonio pabon JKD is also crap and won't help you much in a real fight

@mariustuca6221

5 жыл бұрын

@@mineabou I say you have no idea what JKD would not be good for the street. After Bruce Lee's death JKD was taken further by Dan Ionosanto. I say you did not give it to one who knows JKD calumea. You do not understand the arts Marriages are not effective by practicing only 2 years and you're good, you have to train all the time martial arts do not have a limit to practice until the end of life. It's not like in MMA to be aggressive and to throw your fists forward like the desperate.MMA it has no discipline, UFC is promoted because it is a money-making industry just like Pornohub and all porn industries. This is no longer promoted by anyone if it does not produce that money. MMA is for the show. The fighters are crazy. you only see violence, that promotes MMAl.

@mineabou

5 жыл бұрын

Marius Tuca So do you think that MMA is all about being aggressive and throwing your fists forward? You'd be delusional, Anybody who fights like that would just tire himself in the first rounds, You can't win an MMA fight without experience, Skill, Precision, Adaptability, Patience, Strategy and tactics There's nothing that'll prove to you either something works or not better than testing under real combat and pressure

I had a similar experience with TKD. I had already obtained my Shodan when I discovered a new school in town. They taught me to use my hands as well as the TKD kicking techniques I already knew. After a year, I went back to my original school and was so much more effective than the fighters that used to beat me. It still took a few years for me to learn the real truth. That was that my original school was the first step up the stairs. My new school was the second, but there were still more steps ahead of me if I wanted to become a complete fighter because there were those that had taken more steps than me. I could have lived in a safer cocoon, but that is not my nature. Not yours either, obviously.

@RamseyDewey

7 жыл бұрын

+Docinaplane as Mr. Miyagi said "someone always knows more." There's always another level.

@johngault7329

4 жыл бұрын

Well said.

"You don't know how to fight until you are fighting." - Hawkins Cheung, Wing Chun Master

@dirksmith896

4 жыл бұрын

Only a wingchun man could come out with such shit

@dswynne

2 жыл бұрын

@@dirksmith896 But it still applies to everything. You could train in MMA, and still LOSE a fight. Why? There is a difference between "the ring" and "the streets".

@dirksmith896

2 жыл бұрын

@@dswynne duh... I teach 3 styles including mma and street defence and I've had endless street fights.. Too many to count.. So its very hard to listen to noobs in fighting telling me about fighting lol

@dswynne

2 жыл бұрын

@@dirksmith896 I glad we are in agreement, then.

@triumphant39

2 жыл бұрын

@@dirksmith896 It would be easy to look at your claims with skepticism (and I do), but assuming that you are not lying, should we ask ourselves WHY you get into or have gotten into so many street fights? Perhaps it would be more of a common occurrence in one's childhood, but assuming you learned martial arts as an adult... why would an adult go around getting into "endless" street fights? Heh...

Ramsey Dewey in the Joe Rogan Experience! Let's make it happen!

@Chief2Moon

5 жыл бұрын

Frank Calvert A good idea whose time has come...I'd listen to them together on a broadcast.

@timothyfreeman97

4 жыл бұрын

Ramsey isn't vulgar enough. Joe wouldn't want him.

@siddified

4 жыл бұрын

@Rambo so?

*Very well said.* You are quite knowledeable with the Philosophy Bruce Lee made. If only many other people understand it too.

you had me at "a real fight is the pursuit of truth"

@WCtrainer1

4 жыл бұрын

That is exactly the idea within wing Chun. It is not a style nor an art, but rather an idea/approach to actual fighting that is open ended and allows for revisions and additions in order to strengthen the weaknesses in your fighting.

@Antraeus

Жыл бұрын

But the epiphany was NOT the result of this being his first real fight. The epiphany was the mature realisation that he hadn't won as fast as he had anticipated. And that is why he developed a new style. Jesus. Fighting gangs with weapons and chains in the streets of Hong Kong is more 'real' than a match! Somebody here says Bruce wasn't an athlete. lol. He lived and breathed kung fu and moved faster than most people blink. Nobody could touch him. And he could punch and kick someone before they're had a chance to move.

Again, I appreciate your humility and humor. I was also a “ bouncer “ for 5 years. When I was working at the Club, it didn’t matter how many “ fighters “were there. You can only fight sim any people. I specifically someone with a shank or blade. I do like the idea of placing a person in front of you so that everyone else has to fight to get to you. They should be climbing all over each other, etc..

@MrRafalee

3 жыл бұрын

The enemy, of course. My typing is terrible.

I also read that when the fight with Bruce and wong started, bruce attacked aggressively and it took wong off guard assuming they'd stand off first. with bruce swinging attacks wildly, wong was forced backwards and then as you stated ended up in the ground. bruce was also disappointed not just with the martial arts abilities, but with the amount of energy he had to use just to try. it was a while ago that I read this, but that's not something you easily forget. at least not if you're a bruce fan and a martial artist.

@guillaumenoname9709

3 жыл бұрын

I like the "Bruce attacked aggressivly"... Like they were playing chess or what ? The Wong's version if a full bullshit version. It was a ruleless and all out fight and Wong didn't have any clue about what he was doing and his version confirmed that he didn't know what was a real fight.

@roykilling2496

5 сағат бұрын

I would take anything said by the Bruce Lee cult, Linda Lee, Beerdy and the rest with a grain of salt. Bruce was never a great fighter, even in his prime, after bestowing JKD, inventing MMA from whole cloth and gracing the world with his godliness. If someone as insignificant as me knows a couple occasions wherein Bruce met more than his match, I'm sure MANY other people do, as well.

I was in Bruce's school then and he told the fight just as Linda did. He also laughed about it a lot because he thought that it was ridiculous. He had to chase Wong a lot until he threw him down. He thought it funny that he got so winded. I don't think it was anywhere near his first fight since he liked to street fight and also matched against Choy Lai Fut in Hong Kong. He also had an amateur boxing match there against a local high school champ where he prevailed. He learned a lot against Wong and sought to improve his stamina and diversify his skill mainly by studying boxing after their fight.

@johngault7329

4 жыл бұрын

.. man, start your own channel. People would love to hear more about him..

@alexscott730

4 жыл бұрын

@@johngault7329 He won't because he's full of shit.

@douglasrose6660

4 жыл бұрын

Sorry bro you're a fucking pussy,Bruce Lee would fucking destroy you, and stop talking like you're a master ,where's your win loss record

@siddified

4 жыл бұрын

@@douglasrose6660 where's Lee's?

@dsdsc7888

6 ай бұрын

Hi bra tbruce beat him easy but ring away of fighting and hi fo-ow hhim and give some punch his back and put wong in graund

This video is so inspiring, not just the history or martial art lesson, but this whole concept about truth after the first fight is so true and happens in so many different ways in life. You're not just a good teacher but a very wise man.

I have been watching your videos for a while, and it's quite common for you to take the subject of the video and then follow with quite an amount of knowledge afterwards, which is great. I think this is actually what is making you one of my favourite content creators on youtube, regarding martial arts, because you actually go in depth about certain aspects, you explain things well and when possible you even give real examples. You do seem like a very knowledgeable/wise guy, so thank you for providing this knowledge, I'm absorbing that stuff like a sponge.

The irony of Bruce Lee is baffling. Here's a guy whose intention was to prove that real martial arts came from being honest with oneself and working hard. That real combat was disorganized and unpredictable, so one must prepare for all aspects of it. And yet, his movies spawned an industry that all but destroyed the honesty of martial arts, so that eventually everyone believed fake martial arts were real. Worse still, people began to worship Bruce Lee like a god who is above all other martial artists, even though the man never even fought anyone of note. Oh, the irony...

@EsotericOccultist

6 жыл бұрын

And who's fault is that? Bruce's or the idiots that believe everything they see in a movie?

@williampalminteri1727

5 жыл бұрын

Let's face it.... With Lee's ego, if he actually won the fight with Wong, we'd never hear the end of it.

@Apedrape

5 жыл бұрын

I'll take Chuck Norris's word for it when it comes to Bruce Lee.

@frasersummers3801

5 жыл бұрын

Whether he was shit or watever..its wat he did for martial arts thats counrlted all these years..he made it more mainstream..thats why hes idolised I think

@williampalminteri1727

5 жыл бұрын

@@frasersummers3801 Lee put "beatdowns" on the map, not TRUE martial arts. That's why Wong fought Lee, to give him humility. Lee never 'got' it.

Wong Jack Man never gave a version of the story himself. The "Wong was awesome" story came from another witness to the fight (probably a student of his). Wong himself, however, refused to comment even after Bruce's death.

@terhazza

4 жыл бұрын

Not true, he did reply in a local newspaper and said that he would like any potential future fight to be public.

@guillaumenoname9709

3 жыл бұрын

Not true. Wong gave his fancy version of the fight and then he said he won't talk about it anymore.

I just learned of your videos a few days or so ago and I've got to say, these are great! Going back to watch some of your older videos is very eye-opening. Great stuff!

There are so many versions of the fight. One was Linda was not allowed to watch the fight because SHE WAS PREGNANT. In the book, Bruce Lee The Fighting Spirit, it was theorized that they actually ended too exhausted to fight b/c they ended on the ground and wrestled way too long. But, whatever happened, Lee was sorely disappointed at the result. He retooled and started to jog for cardio.

@EsotericOccultist

6 жыл бұрын

Since when can't pregnant women watch fights? That literally makes no sense. I've seen pregnant wives of ufc fighters cheering their husbands on many times. Nothing bad happens as a result.

@ninjanizzle

5 жыл бұрын

+EsotericOccultist its not so much that she wasnt allowed, but that bruce wanted to make sure she was safe. george lee said he waited outside the room with her while the fight went on. george also had a handgun just in case things went south. if bruce had a man with a gun out back he definitely didnt let her stand and watch the fight in the same room. the wives/gfs of ufc fighters cheer from OUTSIDE the cage, where theyre safe from harm. that is the same as bruce making sure she was in a safe place outside the room of the fight. the room wasnt that big and they didnt fight in a boxing ring. even the witnesses had to move out the way during the fight. thats definitely no place for a pregnant woman, especially if u dont trust or even know the multiple ppl who came to watch.

@larhannstuckey865

5 жыл бұрын

Jack Ridg

@jerry171460

5 жыл бұрын

If Bruce won the fight so easily, why did he change his style of fighting? Jack Man Wong went to work the next day! Bruce didn't hurt him. Bruce realized his Wing Chun was limited to only certain situation, so he started picking up different type of marital arts.

@rjgn4054

5 жыл бұрын

@@jerry171460 From what I remember in the bios and interviews it was because he didn't beat him quick enough because Bruce thought he was way better but it took him longer than expected using wing chun (about 3 min still quick though) so he knew he needed to learn more.

"What worked was adapting to the situation..." I need to keep this in mind.

Ramsey, I've been looking up to you, training like you say every time at the end, I just want you to know that what you're doing does make a difference and I am grateful to you. You are a man. period.

Great analysis! Just subscribed. Thank you.

"who are the wicked? they are those who deceive themselves"

@thememaster7

3 жыл бұрын

Why is selflessness a good thing?

Just finding your videos and great job. These questions have plagued me about the MA for a long time. The move order and distancing among other things. The guy that taught me would go to TKD class and then come back and teach me. The instructor had been in and out of fights and taught all kinds of grappling and groin strikes. I went to a TKD class later and I didn't think they were teaching TKD because they weren't even punching straight or whatever. Keep up the good work. Btw my first real fight I got my ass kicked and a finger in my eye saving myself with a choke that had nothing to do with anything I ever learned.

Fantastic video Ramsey...you hitting right on the nail...thanks for your videos !

perfect! a great video! this is a real philosophy based on a personal experience. thank you for sharing your thoughts with broader audience.

You sir are exceptionally&impressively articulate & philosophical. Hopefully you're aware of these gifts....I assure you your listeners recognize it in you. Well Done, as always.

Ironically enough I had a similar experience with JKD haha! I was lucky that it was just a failed demonstration for my friends and not a real fight. I was trying to demonstrate the “salute” block you can use to deflect an straight punch with a volunteer that didn’t know JKD. All he had to do to break my illusion was pull back his hand as I tried to deflect! At the time it was embarrassing, but now I can appreciate the experience as a brush with reality without having to get beat up.

That was awesome man, beautiful and true. You've gotten far in your path.

I was into martial arts back in the 1970's and practicing Wing Chun. This gave me the chance to talk to many Chinese from different schools and I had varied opinions about Bruce Lee and Wong Jack Man. Its amazing that the fight took place in front of many witnesses and there have been varied accounts of what happened. The opinion of Bruce Lee was also mixed. Bottom line it wasn't the style, but the person and Bruce looked into himself and saw deficiency's in himself.

For whatever this is worth, I read somewhere along time ago that during the fight, Bruce was trying to gouge out Jack's eyes and doing some other lethal techniques. I dont remember where I read it, and it's neither here nor there, but it painted Bruce in a darker, dirtier light, as if he were fighting to the death. The story stuck with me, true or not. Anyways, Btw Ramsey, you're voice is really cool. You could seriously get some work doing voiceovers on some animes or something, seriously. And I loved this video.

@tbishop4961

3 жыл бұрын

Correct. Both Linda Lee and David chin have given account of the fight. Both identical (and chin was there w Wong jack man) Side note.. david chin trains some bad ass fighters

This is a very good video. Mr. Dewey, I think you had lots of words of wisdom here. Thanks for not bashing wing chun or a style. It does have its place but it's not complete by itself. It needs to be adapted to the style of the opponent and it needs to be mixed with other styles to become more complete. I think it's safe to say no one style is complete and that effectively taking the strengths of different styles to fit the needs and body design of the individual is what it takes to be a complete martial artist. I've been studying JKD for four years now and this concept is the fundamental concept of Jeet Kune Do. It's not a fixed style, it's constantly evolving but with the underlying principles. Bruce Lee said, "Take what's useful. Reject what's useless". Wing chun is still a substantial part of JKD but so is western boxing and muay thai. Those seem to be at its foundation and then things like fencing, judo, jujitsu, wrestling, etc. are added on top of that foundation). Thank you for your thoughts. This was very interesting and informative.

@NapoleonGelignite

2 жыл бұрын

Wing Chun is a series of training methods not a style. There are holes that can be filled by using your brain - grappling, sparring etc. WC is focused on in fighting, which is great as you can keep a fight in that range more easily than longer distances, but not necessary, and clinches are very likely given a skilled opponent.

I love your info. I am 64 with a lot of injuries, Spinal fusions, missing achilles tendon, etc. So I have no illusions on what I am able to do. But, in spite of that, you help me a lot with your philosophy. And it really helps me with my training.

I wish I could get the ponderous stare off into the distance halfway through a sentence that you do!!! I’m no kind of fighter but love listening to what you say.

This video is awesome and i agree 100%

@joshuawilliford3743

6 жыл бұрын

John Yang i agree 100%

@williampalminteri1727

5 жыл бұрын

@John Yang In Taoist tradition, bragging is not done. Wong Jack Man knows what happened, and that's all that matters in Taoism.

@Fla_Law_Dog

4 жыл бұрын

@@williampalminteri1727 Um... the whole point of Wong Jack Man's challenge was to prohibit Bruce Lee from teaching non-Chinese. After the fight, Bruce continued to teach non-Chinese. There's your answer. Goodbye.

Interesting video. Just to share - the amateur boxing fight wasn't just from Bruce. Actual eyewitnesses from that day had actually come forward with their own accounts. Next, on the wong jack man fight, this man, David Chin, who actually caused the fight to happen, and have for many years insisted in the fantastical version, have actually come forward in recent years to admit that Bruce's version was the truth, and wong's crew had lied due to ego.

@RamseyDewey

7 жыл бұрын

+lucidmist thanks for the insight!

@bertt1055

6 жыл бұрын

Written by an a real journalist in San Francisco. Read the article - David Chin admitted that the fight was closer to what Bruce's camp told. fightland.vice.com/blog/bruce-lee-vs-wong-jack-man-fact-fiction-and-the-birth-of-the-dragon

@bertt1055

6 жыл бұрын

Regarding the amateur fight, I will need to look for the article again. It was an interview - an actual British student attending the school where Bruce took part in the boxing match saw the entire fight and gave his account of how Bruce won.

@bertt1055

6 жыл бұрын

Ramsey Dewey Most welcome.

@j.c.mhardcoremetalfan413

6 жыл бұрын

lucidmist thank you for doing your homework and not letting hatter's or people who are just not fans let others fill their heads with what they want them to believe.remember most talked a lot about Lee after he died.thst says alot right there and most stories change all most everytime they talk about it (Vic Moore) .Bruce fought before he beat Jackman and fought alot.i believe the ones who are tough band known for it tell how good Lee was not let their egos say different like Joe Lewis said Lee was the fastest and hardest puncher he ever seen that's big coming from him

Good work champ keep the videos coming , very funny informative and above all very practical thank you. cheers

I really enjoyed this video. It is a clear exposition by someone who has clear opinions--and sound reasons for those opinions.

It's amazing to think that Bruce Lee got in trouble for teaching foreigners martial arts in America. And now you are living in China teaching MMA. Things have definitely changed. It's also cool how Bruce Lee realized that Wing Chun wasn't enough and went on his own quest to pursue the truth about fighting. Considering he did this before UFC where there became a testing ground to test and polish fighting styles. Bruce Lee was definitely ahead of his time. The Tao of Jeet Kune Do is definitely an interesting read. Lot's of his philosophy is sound and he also has tons of diagrams he drew himself about different fighting styles and techniques from multiple martial arts. Including many of the ones that do well in MMA.

@cuzz63

6 жыл бұрын

That is a myth, several of the Kung Fu schools in Oakland were already teaching westerners. This myth came about because of a movie.

@michaelquebec6653

6 жыл бұрын

Agreeing with cuzz63. Also, martial arts author Robert W. Smith had learned Chinese martial arts in Taiwan in the 1950's and World War Two era military hand to hand combat instructor William E. Fairburn had learned Chinese martial arts in Shanghai. It sounds "better" from the Bruce Lee camp to say "Bruce Lee was challenged because he was opposing bigotry", as opposed to "Bruce Lee was challenged because he insulted the San Francisco Chinese martial arts community on stage at The Sun Sing Theater in 1964 during a martial arts demo." Two sources are Rick Wing's and Charles Russo's books on the subject, as well as interviews from Leo Fong and the late Al Novak.

@guillaumenoname9709

3 жыл бұрын

cuzz is right. Bruce just said that to his wife to hide the truth. The truth is : he was showing his technics and explaining in a very cocky way how traditionnal MA was not effecient in several theaters, eventually challenging people who disagreed. And then ... I don't say more but yeah, it wasn't about teaching to non Chinese people :)

@kermit1211

Жыл бұрын

People have been mixing styles long before Lee was ever born. Try learning the history of other martial arts

Ah well, Lee was a talented choreographer. He desperately wanted to be in films. Those glamor poses looked great.

@CharlesDamianoBLC

4 жыл бұрын

Calvin Bruce Lee was the greatest of all time! check out my Bruce Lee youtube channel if you are a fan of Bruce Lee! You will enjoy it! Best Charles

@MechaJutaro

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah. Those who continue to look to an actor for cues on self-defense in reality are tantamount to those who take advice on male-female relationships from content creators on KZread, who've either been in unhappy marriages for decades, or who aren't themselves out there dating for themselves

@RegisWilkins

10 күн бұрын

@@MechaJutaro Talking out your back side....again?

Some great wisdom in this video

Awesome stories, thank you very much!

If even Bruce Lee, who was the greatest martial artist, has not survived, then we have the humility to accept other techniques, other martial arts, in any martial art there are techniques that do not work, yet we train for years on end. I conclude that we must unite and choose the best techniques and create something that really works, both for defense as well as personal growth. Sensei Nilton Yuzuki

@stuartj1234

4 жыл бұрын

You can only create what works for you. Something that works for me does not work for everybody. Take only what is usefull to you and disgard the rest.But learn it all then forget it all and move on to something else.

@michaelhowze8198

3 жыл бұрын

@@stuartj1234 Right Jeet Kun Do

Having attended a series of seminars with Richard Bustillo. There was always a Q&A somewhere in the seminar. One time he said: "there are a lot of stories about Bruce. Most of them are not true."

@jcc2917

3 жыл бұрын

in order to practice his kicks, Lee had to use a 300-pound punching bag that could stand up to his power. "He was so strong, that he'd do his exercises on this bag, and then, if he went to one of the regular bags, he'd blow it away," remembered Richard Bustillo.

Mr. Dewey you are without a doubt the most intellectual speaker to talk on this subject!! You speak on it right down the line!!! You could shut up a lot of people on the Internet that have gotten this wrong!

I am a Master Framer/Carpenter. It took over 20 years of constant learning and applying. What I learned the most, is that, how you do anything is how you everything. My mastery has shown me "a path", not "the path" to all things... I tie my boots with as much flow and consistency as I build. I am not flowing water, I am the molecules that float in and out of everything, I am all form and no form. I do not become the shape of the tea pot, but become it, and the table it rest upon and all that surround it.

Just to throw this out there about "teaching westerners". I trained about a year with Sifu Jenner, who was one of Wong Jackman's students. Wong Jackman didn't have any problem with teaching non-Chinese, or Sifu wouldn't have studied with him obviously. What I learned there was some Xing I mostly, but there was also Ba Gua and some Shaolin, and some weapons stuff. I didn't get to weapons or full-contact sparring. Footwork from Xing I was very similar to footwork I did as a fencer, the striking was decent, but the grappling wasn't strong. It was fun and there are definitely worse places / teachers, but I didn't think it was worth $100-$200 / month, considering I live in a very expensive location and had a lot of overtime I was doing.

Everything your saying is true, case in point of an Elite Taekwondo practitioner in the cage is Yair Rodriguez he does some really crazy stuff that is taking other fighters by surprise and its based on Taekwondo yet he knows all the other techniques that you have mentioned.

Mr. Dewey, overall I really like to hear what you have to say. You're a very good speaker. An Intellectual's fighter. Thank you for your video's sir!

You inspire me man. Way to go

"...until all it remains is the truth" thats something that resonates with me in various aspects. Fake learning methods i've paid for in order to avoid studying as i should in university. My own religion, it just didn't hold up to reality, it wasn't a good explanation for the world i see. In my country Argentina is happening to many of us, with politics and economics, we keep arguing about things the world have solve years ago. And also fake techniques in sports, martial arts, dieting and training in general. Behind all of that was things you said, that time invested, and that fear of confronting the truth. On top of that, there is my lazyness to change, to work hard, to put the time it takes. People don't know how much diference in time and effort there is between watching a video and actually mastering something. We should all test our beliefs.

I think Lee would have won no matter what His style was. He was a special talent with mythically rare speed and beautiful style, not to mention a superb athlete. He would have been good at any sport.

Just discovered your channel mate. Great content. You also have a brilliant speaking voice and engaging delivery! You should do voiceovers. Like a young James Earl Jones! 👊🏼🇬🇧 nice one bruv!

Great video. I am not a marital artist, but I can hear what you are saying and get glimpses of your experience.

Everyone should think like Miyamoto Musashi when it comes to fighting or martial arts.

Despite all the myths going on about Bruce lee, I really believe he was just an ordinary guy like us who learnt his lessons from making mistakes. What makes him immortal is the fact that he was the man who first popularised the reality of martial arts and and real fights, as majority of martial artists in his time were delusional n were spreading there delusion on to others. Bruce lee showed us the way. His movie ‘game of death’ was a masterpiece! Bruce was the man who got the much deserved honour to the profession of stunt performers. He was a great athlete, a philosopher with a degree, a stuntman, an actor, author of best selling books, true martial arts instructor, and what not. He broke the racial stereotypes about Asians in Hollywood n made way for other Asian actors and martial artists. He fought against his own people to teach non-Chinese. He achieved all this at the mere age of 32. These are the qualities we should remember and respect him for! Not some street fight records. Thanks for the great video Ramsey! 👏🏻

@lordoffaiyum9727

2 жыл бұрын

Bruce was a great fighter. Yes human but he was not normal.

@pafoneto1275

2 жыл бұрын

@@lordoffaiyum9727 Acording to what?

awesome video

Man this was a good Video!

"A Real Chinese Kung Fu Master Fight 1953" , i think this is the old video you mentioned. After that fight with WJM, Lee started training like an athlete and mixing things like boxing, savate, fence footwork, more or less grappling he learned training with Wally Jay and Lebelle. Ironically a little bit, things that are, as some try to say, "just sports, not "real deadly martial arts" ", isn't? :)

The fight with Wong Jack Man was hardly Bruce Lee's first real fight. When he was a teenager, his penchant for street fighting earned him the nickname "King Gorilla," and the legendary Yip Man stated that Lee was "fighting crazy." When Bruce returned to the United States in 1959, he immediately began to test himself in the streets of Seattle. His most famous pre-WJM real fight was with 2nd degree Karate Black Belt Yoichi Nakachi. This fight occurred at a local YMCA handball court and Lee students Jesse Glover and Ed Hart were in attendance. According to Glover, Bruce straight blasted Nakachi into a wall, and then kicked him in the face as he was falling to the floor. Glover stated that Nakachi's face was a bloody mess and that he was knocked unconscious.

@lordoffaiyum9727

2 жыл бұрын

He legit fought all the time. He was a troubles youth who fought so much he got into trouble. People can't seem to except that

@cuzz63

Жыл бұрын

"His most famous pre-WJM real fight was with 2nd degree Karate Black Belt Yoichi Nakachi." Never confirmed, Yoichi denied it ever happened and claimed he was friends with Bruce. Also Yoichi was not a fighter but a Kata guy.

@cuzz63

Жыл бұрын

@@lordoffaiyum9727 kid fights mean what?

@cuzz63

Жыл бұрын

he left HK right after he became an adult...so these kid fights mean what?

Tank you, Ramsey.

This makes alot of sense 👏👏 i never saw it that way

You may be an experienced or perhaps even a superb fighter. But remember, humility is the mark of a true martial artist.

@THEREALZENFORCE

5 жыл бұрын

and truth is the mark of a true warrior

@williampalminteri1727

5 жыл бұрын

Bruce lacked humility. He was a very talented egotistical bully.

Bruce Lee was the real deal he always was learning about self,life and off others plus he had love for all people regardless the race or color. Folks say Bruce must loss cause he change his ways but I feel he won like I did in a fight just knowing boxing but hit the ground and I barely won the fight because I got dude off me but he got alot off then we got back up to are feet my boxing took over but I realise I needed to work on myself so I study wrestling, grappling etc knowing I was limited so I say this because Bruce realise the Same thing and step his game up cause it was to close for comfort I believe this fight was a blessing for Bruce Lee because thanks to Wong it made Bruce seek within himself to pull out the true master in his spirit 100salute to both warriors rip Dragon Lee

@andrewlinesjah4538

Жыл бұрын

Listen Mate You mention people and colour HOW'S africa doing ? HOW'S europe doing ? america ? colour ? Take crime statistics according to race ? I AM 100% PROUDLY MORE WHITE I 100% SUPPORT THE UNAMENDED CASTLE DOCTRINE I 100% SUPPORT THE DEATH PENALTY go live in chicago under sodom and gomorrah and kick up to her go live in sodom and gomorrah drug infested luciferfornia go be WHITE ON A FARM in south africa DON'T TELL ME ABOUT BRUCE LEE AND COLOUR the term brother to black people is a racist term to exclude WHITE PEOPLE due to anti WHITE satanic spew I AM 🔥 A god CHRIST IS THE LORD 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

Great video ramsey

Sir, I greatly appreciate your wisdom. Everything you describe can be wrapped in two words : "Reality Check". As a professional pianist, I can assure you that every detail you bring up regarding the attitude of people who fantasize in their practice space applies equally to playing a musical instrument. No Music schools, no teachers prepare instrumentalists to the demands of the 'real' world. None. Sadly. I could illustrate infinitely. Suffice to say that the boy who was a 'star' at school playing flashy drums patterns gets quickly a tremendous shock when he steps on a real stage where he is expected to 'nail' his chart at first attempt - not in a semester - backing up an established entertainer. And I have seen egos and especially self-esteem go down the drain in one day. Schools (in the U.S. in particular) carefully entertain illusions, like the one you describe. And when it is time to deliver (...), especially as an accompanist, the lack of knowledge and preparation often lead to disastrous results. ---- One last word on Bruce Lee : what made him exceptional were the distinctions he made... and, as a result, the quests he conquered... And above all to me, he should be revered for his absolute mastery of Energy. His, and the one of his opponents.

My first street fight - I was an 11 year old Karate boy at the time, wasn't a high grade - I survived it but I still remember thinking wow this guys really good as he hit me from all these different angles. He must have been an armature boxer or did some training in boxing. So I thought I would try Wing Chun as the demonstrations looked fantastic. Its not easy to let go of a fantasy when you have invested so much time in it. I guess it all depends what you want to get out of your training. I don't practice traditional marital arts any more - I went more the Boxing and Wrestling route (MMA wasn't around back then) I still love martial arts. I'd enjoy doing Tai Chi one day - just probably wouldn't use too much of it if I was unfortunate enough to have a street fight. In my fight apart from boxing my head off he also picked up a lump of wood and started hitting me with it. You don't get that in the ring. If I was a young boy now - no question my core art would be MMA - But even MMA isn't specifically designed for a street fight it's designed for a ring fight and there are some differences. Multiple opponents, knives, no gloves ,etc, lumps of wood in my case. So I would train in whatever I needed to - but definitely MMA would be a very big part of it as it covers so much of what can happen in a fight. Big Bruce Lee fan here. Loved his movies - loved the way he was willing to see the truth and change.

@rgreigjazzguitar

5 жыл бұрын

I'd recommend looking into both Kali (Filipino Martial Arts) and Jeet Kune Do. They are very much philosophy driven and always evolving/improving. Guro Dan Inosanto and Sifu Francis Fong are great resources.

Street fight is survival mode more than a fight.

@dabunnyrabbit2620

5 жыл бұрын

@silent mental aporoach No he's pretty much got it.

@tyleroldham4676

5 жыл бұрын

@Spinning Back-Kick I wish all the guys who fought me In my life we're as inept and kind as the guys you're talking about.

@tyleroldham4676

5 жыл бұрын

@Spinning Back-Kick not really. Maybe that's why there's so much violence.

@tyleroldham4676

5 жыл бұрын

@Spinning Back-Kick whatever keep living your weak ass life thinking everyone's weak like you.

@heretopissyouoff8439

3 жыл бұрын

@@tyleroldham4676 and go ahead and keep thinking street fights are always to the death because buddy if it were there wouldn't be a fight a knife or gun be drawn

thanks

Very true. Respect...

1:38 "what linda lee describe sounded like a real fight....the others description of the fight sounded like fantasy." Wong jack men vs Bruce lee 6:40 "real fight....like animal brawl...when they were clearly masters of their sport." 9:00 "try his win chun...prove....oppon kept moving outside his win chun range & kicking him....punching him in head...this beautiful delusion was breaking down..." 10:50 "started learning muay thai...adapting arts to situation/fight...in order to win...if he moves this way he'll be outside of range, so WE MUST learn this ...mixing martial arts to overcome situation/problem." Preach the truth brother...PREACH! "The wicked hates the truth" 18:40 "there comes a point in your life youre going to get punched in the face fiercely repeatedly....& if you have not trained for that specific moment, you're going to get punched into a bloody pulp into the ground. I think we need that epiphany moment in our life...in some aspect in our life....so we can chisel off all these pieces until all thats left is the truth....because thats how we triumph in the midst of chaos. Is by telling the truth."

I know the real reason why Wong and Lee fought. If we ever hook up via cell or email or chat or video, I’ll tell you the story. The reality isn’t as impressive. I’m a fan of your show.

Very interesting . Thanks for the view...

Good video bud!

I could probably say with great confidence that I am possibly one of the biggest Bruce Lee fans ever. Bruce Lee posters peppered my walls at 10 yo, Bruce Lee T-shirts (I still wear one at times), and reading everything I could written by Alex Ben Block, Linda Lee, etc. I wrote a 4th Grade report on Bruce Lee. That said, what separates me from many Bruce Lee fanatics is that in the spirit Bruce Lee's JKD philosophy of being formless and shapeless I try to filter through bullshit and seek the truth to know the real Bruce Lee and I totally agree with Ramsey Dewey. We have to put aside our bias of seeing Bruce Lee as some undefeatable demi-god and see him as a very talented human but human nevertheless. Here are some contradictions about the Bruce Lee vs Wong Jack Man as told primarily by the Bruce Lee camp... 1. The late Wong Jack is often portrayed as a ethnocentric bigot who objected to Bruce Lee teaching non-Chinese and the fight was said to be over Bruce Lee's right to teach non-Chinese. Sounds valiant, no? However, Wong Jack Man who died not long ago after retiring from teaching taught people of all ethnicities! Furthermore, there were other notable kung fu teachers like Lau Bun who taught non-Chinese. The alternate story, and one that is more believable, was that a young, brash Bruce Lee went to California via Seattle, and upon setting up shop in Oakland started boasting that he could beat any other Chinese kung fu man in the area and that their kung fu was shit. The established elders and leaders of the community took exception and Wong Jack Man took Bruce Lee up on his open challenge to all-comers to a friendly match of skills not unlike the Gracie challenge. It was supposed to be a kung fu match but the two men could not agree upon set rules so the fight of skills deteriorated into a brawl. 2. If Bruce Lee decisively beat Wong Jack Man then why would it bother him so much to the point that he would drastically alter wing chun (some would say abandon) and look for a panacea from other martial arts? Just because it took him 3 minutes to beat WJM? Does this sound like the logical behavior of someone who decisively won? It took Royce Gracie nearly 15 minutes to defeat the incredibly skilled, Dan Severn yet did Royce Gracie abandon Gracie Jiu-jitsu? No. Nobody abandons or turns their back on something that gave them a victory. It's just not human nature. 3. Some say, there is no motive to make things up about Bruce Lee so it has to be the truth. Oh, really? Bruce Lee's licensing and estate is worth much more now than when he was alive. It's worth millions. That's why we get these incredibly exaggerated biographies made about him every 10 years like that fable, Dragon: The Bruce Lee Story where he was laid out from a vicious, cheap shot kick in the back when the reality is that he hurt his back doing "good morning" exercises with barbells...but then the truth is often not as exciting as movie drama and not going to eithre sell a lot of movie tickets nor keep his legend alive. 4. There have been a lot of contradictions that have come to light. Bruce Lee's window portrayed Bruce Lee as a nutrition freak whose only vice was high protein shakes made of peanut butter, and eggshells. However, his autopsy shows that he had cannabis in his system and that he chewed hashish. Not being judgemental here at all. Just showing the contradictions from what even his wife has written about him (Bruce Lee: The Man Only I Knew) and what medical reports have shown. Apparently he would drink alcohol at partys, and Betty Ting Pei, the last person to see him alive, has now come out to say that she was his mistress. No, he was not over her apartment just to read a script! C'mon...he lived in a big flat with a studio. Why would he go to a tiny HK apartment to go over a script with an aspiring actress? Hmmm... 5. Ramsey Dewey is correct. There are no real recorded fights of Bruce Lee except second hand accounts and, keep in mind, that back in that day, you could wow anyone by throwing a side kick because Asian martial arts was considered so exotic at the time. This is not to say Bruce Lee was not a great fighter. He could have been the greatest fighter ever but there just is no provenance. I'm not implying that only tournament fighters know how to fight. John Danaher, and Firas Zahabi don't have a lot of tournament winning records but they are, without a doubt, two of the most incredible martial arts visionaries and innovators we currently have. I'm just stating that if there were records or footage of Bruce Lee in a fight against a resisting opponent then that would lend more evidence. 6. Bruce Lee was NOT the father of MMA. Incorporating different strategies of different martial arts has been occurring since tribal cavemen went to war, to Greek pankration, to the evolution striking and wrestling martial arts in Japan, China, India et al. To Vale Tudo, to Gene LeBell fighting Milo Savage, to Antonio Inoki fighting Ali. Secondly, MMA was coined only in the late 20th century after Bruce Lee died so how could he be the father of a term that had not yet existed? It's just more sentimental romanticizing and redundant to real facts. Again, I'm a huge Bruce Lee fan which is why I want to know the real facts about his life. His genius and his frailties as a human. Not fables perpetuated in Hollywood and Asiawood written movies or, worse, Bruce Lee fanboys who have never really tried to research the real life of Bruce Lee. Bruce Lee said that martial arts was about "Honestly expressing [yourself]". So it is actually an injustice to his philosophy to make up bullshit just to perpetuate some Hollywood facade making him out to be an undefeatable Superman when he was a human albeit a very talented one. Finally, let me say this: Bruce Lee IS the greatest martial artist of modern time. What? Not Rickson Gracie? Not Georges St Pierre? Not Anderson Silva? No, Bruce Lee IS the greatest martial artist of modern time. Why? Because first, he's a legend. A demigod. And you can't beat a legend and a demigod. He is the symbol of martial arts. The ambassador of all martial arts. He inspired millions and demonstrated his pride in his culture which in turn gave pride to everyone - Asian, Latinos, Blacks and everyone in between - who felt like a 2nd class citizen in conservative America of the 60's and 70's. How could he not be the greatest martial artist? He did more to spread the martial arts gospel through his movies and his larger than life persona than any MMA star has done yet. Maybe a few non-martial arts people have heard the names of Gracie, or St-Pierre, or Silva. But "Bruce Lee" is in the vernacular. Everyone, even people who have never seen his movies, knows the name "Bruce Lee".

@tyleroldham4676

5 жыл бұрын

I one hundred percent agree with you. Thanks for being a rational human being that doesn't go into denial in the face of simple facts about our reality.

@Mharriscreations

4 жыл бұрын

This might be the best breakdown of Bruce that I've ever read on the internet.

@allenberrebbi8191

3 жыл бұрын

Well said and logical. As I said elsewhere. Bruce was known to be an arrogant guy and the family has been vested in keeping the legend going forever. I love his movies as much as the next guy and fully admit he was a movie legend who did a lot of good for martial arts in general. But he was arrogant, cheated on his wife repeatedly, and selfish. The part that makes me believe JWM is he challenged Bruce in the paper to a PUBLIC match to settle the argument and as cocky as Bruce is, he refused this rematch and left town. Very unlike him. JWM did not do it arrogantly nor did he talk about it . So I believe his account.

@phoenixj1299

3 жыл бұрын

1)Bruce Lee didn't have any mistress or anything. Do some research. Bruce didn't go to her house alone. He went with the director of his movie where Betty is a co actor. After discussing about the movie,the director left because he had an important appointment. After that Bruce had a head ache. And then we we all know what happened. So no,he didn't have any mistress unless you are desperate enough to imagine that he had one 2) Back in the day,in China they consider cannabis as some kind of medicine. That's how Chinese perceive it. It's funny how you didn't even know about asian culture yet you are talking about cannabis. But Bruce didn't have any other habit. So yes he is nutritious. 3)" incorporating different martial arts occurred from cavemen time " Wrong. That's not even MMA. A) Back in the day they only fixated on one style B) There are some who learn various various "individual" martial arts. They use them both. They consider each style individually. That's not what MMA is. Bruce Lee is indeed,the father of MMA. Bruce Lee philosophy doesn't tell to consider each martial arts as a single entity and mix them. Instead what it actually say is to take "necessary moves" from different styles alone,not all,and then combine them. There is a world od difference between these two cases. And only Bruce did that. So yes ,he is indeed the father of MMA. But yes,I agree with you in other points except these ones.

It's interesting to note that Bruce Lee was just 24 yrs old when he developed his own style.

@THEREALZENFORCE

5 жыл бұрын

it's interesting to note that Miyamoto Musashi killed his first man at the age of 16 years old in 1vs1 duel (surviving over 50 samurai duel to the death in his life), survived Japan's bloodiest samurai battle (Battle of Sekigahara) and later developed his Niten Ichi-ryū martial art and became an expert calligrapher, philosopher (example : be like water analogy in his Water book of the Book of the Five Rings) and writer (Go Rin No Sho for example).

@suntzu7727

3 жыл бұрын

@@THEREALZENFORCE He was actually 13.

@THEREALZENFORCE

3 жыл бұрын

@@suntzu7727 Bruce Lee was not 13 years old when he invented Jeet Kune Do. Bruce outlined the concept of Jeet Kune Do in 1965, he was around 25 years old at the time. Stop inventing claims that are false. You hurt Lee's image with such lies.

@suntzu7727

3 жыл бұрын

@@THEREALZENFORCE I'm talking about Miyamoto killing someone for the first time, you idiot. It wasn't at 16 it was at 13 or 12. I didn't say anything about Bruce Lee, nor do I care about Bruce Lee.

@suntzu7727

3 жыл бұрын

@@THEREALZENFORCE Well, it would be good if you had achieved proper grammar.

Well said mate. You nailed it.

this video is a good exercise in making a point in the longest time possible

@RamseyDewey

6 жыл бұрын

Hahahahaha!!!! Yeah, pretty much!

8:50 suppose Brian had no background in Muay Thai or jujitsu, in the ring , he would have been slaughtered. His wing chun cannot save him, but wing chun snobs would have been hard on him saying that " his technique was not correct, he should've done this and he should've done that , and he's not true wing chun guy " etc. So sad.

@RamseyDewey

6 жыл бұрын

Most likely! And Brian’s wing chun is better than anyone I know.

@varanid9

6 жыл бұрын

Ever notice how, basically, Wing Chun and Muay Thai has similar principles in terms of how they cover the body, as well as use of body weapons?

@fightingfisherman9690

5 жыл бұрын

varanid9 no they don’t, 😂 I am Muay Thai fighter and trainer, we actually fight to see if it works, Muay Thai use boxing with elbows, and clinching, we spar a lot, fight other gyms, wing chun don’t spar properly or fight or test there skill, big difference,

@rgreigjazzguitar

5 жыл бұрын

@@fightingfisherman9690 It's a fair point that wing chun could test their techniques more in a sparring situation. The only problem though is that it's hard to practice throat strike, eye strikes and chain punches to the center of the face without getting hurt. While certain Wing Chun techniques are hard to use in the ring (such as the tan sao) the principle are quite effective (such as centerline theory and the placement of the elbow when striking and how you intercept punches by blending your defense with an attack). Wing chun just has to be tailored for the ring in which it doesn't look like traditional wing chun. Sifu Francis Fong is a great example on how to adapt Wing Chun to MMA. His wing chun is more modern and his school teaches MMA alongside the Wing Chun.

@fightingfisherman9690

5 жыл бұрын

Richard Greig sorry dude I don’t think the problem is throat punches. Eye poke. Do know how hard it to land a jab. I Don’t mean ring fighting I mean in general. In cage with MMA gloves on. And centre line theory. I fighter and never heard that. It’s called angles. I have had Muay Thai fights with MMA gloves on. It’s harder to land jab without big gloves the range is different. Wing Chun I never seen them properly spar. So how going be good at actually hitting any one. It’s hard land jab let alone eye pokes. We clinch what elbows pads on and actually scarp in clinching to make it real. So works in cage in ring or in street makes no difference.

Wasn't this the same process that Musashi Miyamoto went through?

@hamstrungharry259

4 жыл бұрын

Musashi Miyamoto had been battling and killing people since he was a boy. It's kind of the opposite.

@stuartj1234

4 жыл бұрын

In a way yes very very similar. Musashi was a facinating guy....also a pretty crazy scary dude by the looks of things. But he too had incredible gifts in his chosen form of combat. Fighting with two swords was almost un heard of untill he showed up. allegedly his favourite weapon was the bokken or wooden sword.........how mental is that ? Hey you man with that sword wanna fight me ?..........ill use my stick!! Fucking mental.

Your philosophy and ideas are very cool and well thought through ramsey dewey. It's always what could of happened that makes everyone think.

great video i now understand some but not all

Honestly, i never believed that bullcrap of "mopped the floor with Wong Jack Man, but changed his entire style of life, fighting, training, because he didn't won FAST ENOUGH". Only a Lee fanatic (too many out there) would believe that. I'm glad people are slowing coming to reason. I even don't believe it was a "victory" nor a "loss": since there's so many different accounts of that fight (majority of wich handed down by Lee's supporters and wife, who had all the interest to build his myth), i tend to believe it was sort of a draw. Let's be honest, street fights aren't as clear cut by definition. And there's accounts of not being true the story of "challenged in order to teach westerners", since it's proven that many other kung fu schools did, including Jack Man's, and that probably it all started when Lee got into disagreement with the rest of chinese martial arts community as a whole. Sure, Lee changed his style, and invented modern hybrid martial arts with modern training and teaching method as a result of that, and that's commendable of him, and of his open-mindedness. That's exactly the reason we shouldn't be such fanboys and believe in Santa Claus.

@levedia

5 жыл бұрын

There too many accounts that Bruce Lee Mopped the floor with him and why would they make that up. When Fedor lost people knew it even Fedor fanatics. What your saying is out of your ass.

@acoustic296

2 жыл бұрын

because Bruce Lee is not Santa Claus. You talk stupid shit 😂

My TaeKwonDo instructor was an ROK officer, and a 5th degree bb, he was without body fat, pumped iron, very tough, and used to go around challenging practitioners of other styles. He absolutely despised karate and kung fu. One kempo guy locked himself in his club, petrified. But a guy who owned a Chinese restaurant engaged him, supposedly, and dropped him with a groin strike ducking a high roundhouse kick.

MMA right now is starting to look more and more like old Lai Tai fights in China, gladiator fights in ancient Italy, etc. It is becoming more about "Do you understand how to use your martial art in a real fight? Have you actually used it in a fight? Do you understand the grappling aspect, striking aspect, etc of your art enough to use it properly?"

You are an impressive and unique martial arts philosopher, Ramsey. I'd like to visit you in Shanghai some time if possible.

@00:11 "the wicked are those who deceive themselves" Bruce Lee's preaching- "Always Honestly Expressing yourself. Not lying to one self, but to express yourself honestly". @4:12 "WJM was his first fight" That is INcorrect. He had fought a Master Black Belt in Karate and Judo in 1960 in Seattle WA at a YMCA racquetball court, with Ed Hart as witness and Jesse Glover as the timer. (Muscle+Fitness April 23, 2012, pg. 104) This has been on record many times, on many publications. @6:01 "Lees first real fight was WJM" Is wrong as already stated above, in addition to fighting many others such as Gary Elms, a 3x champion fighter, in a REAL fight on the STREET for a time and location both had agreed on (after their bout in the ring). This is published by his own FAMILY in the book "Memoirs of a Dragon". Your opinion is of course your freedom, however opinion doesn't count here in a matter of Fact. There are many other fighters of experienced caliber that Lee had defeated upon coming to America prior to WJM. If you would do the proper research before making a video statement you'd see that he had lead quite a violent life, his very brief film work is entirely based on his own personal and frequent life experiences. So the title of your video is wrong by fact, but his duel with WJM did open his eyes to realizing that Brain/Technique/Knowledge/Method was not at all sufficient enough to bypass physical ability. He learned that if he met a challenge, it would also be a challenge that included meeting his physical limits, so he now heightened his strength and stamina beyond the necessary minimum. His error was to focus and depend upon a reliable segment ( his techniques/methods) so as to waive and bypass other segments of reality (maximum fitness), but he recognized there is no effective segment. He must be complete...in ALL existing segments. btw would you have any youtube vids of yourself in a fight or at least sparring?

@arielrueda7258

5 жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/fIxtqtVxc5zaccY.html chill technical sparring

The story doesnt make sende. I am suppose to believe that Bruce Lee won this fight so easily that he changed his whole style of fighting and training because it took 2-3min. Makes no sense unless he lost or couldnt win.

@RamseyDewey

6 жыл бұрын

+rebar33 that's the thing: it wasn't easy. The fight didn't play out in real life the way it did in his mind. His wing chun didn't work, he became exhausted quickly, and the fight turned into a very amateur school yard scrap on the ground. Mr. Lee realized that luck was the only reason he "won". He realized his martial art was garbage. He realized that he was weak and unathletic. And he realized that he needed to change those things if he wanted reality to resemble the picture of fighting he had in his mind. An arrogant person would have simply taken the win as proof of his own prowess. The fact that Lee took the honest approach to confronting his own weakness speaks volumes about his character.

@joelhusbands3838

6 жыл бұрын

rebar33 lee was a wing Chun practitioner yet according to him his hands got swollen from punching Wong jack man. A Wing Chun practitioner who probably hits a Mook Jang all the time . Then the guy in the video goes on to say that a street fight is not a real fight. That Brazilian mixed martial artist who got knocked out @ a gas station after inappropriately touching up a chic basically got beaten in a fake fight because the guys who bashed him posts and stomped him were not trained fighters.

@rebar33

6 жыл бұрын

joel husbands Just look at this objectively. I for one am a bruce lee fan when young until now. To completely change your fighting and training after such an easy win just doesnt make sense. The swollen hand thing isnt true in that the opponent only had a scratch from an eye gouge attempt that was seen the next day and verified. The only thing that would make sende is if after the fight this is when Bruce started running marathons since his endurance was so bad. Remember Lindas account, they are fighting and then Won starts literally running away like a B. Bruce mounts him and says do you submit? Do you submit? Fighters dont ask fighters this question in any fighting discpline. And since this fight was suposedly to send a message no way Bruce would give mercy. You either get knocked out, choked out or tap out. Boxers and fighters only change training after a loss or a very difficult win. Lindas story is that bruce won with ease. Impossible to change training after an easy win over who was a chinese known true master. In discussions like this It is probably hard to change your opinion with logic. I had an argument with a trumo supporter who said Trump never said Mexico would pay for the wall. After I showed him one of Trumps many campaign speeches in youtube the person said it must be fake created by fake news. The point of that story is think about the human angle. It takes a dramatic event to completely change ones lifestyle which he did. He didnt win based on logic. Either lost or a draw.

@SunWukong4

6 жыл бұрын

Wong Jak Man didn't win because he never talks to anyone about the fight and doesn't want to tell his students about his techniques he used to beat Bruce. Wongs side said the fight went on for 20 minutes with him on the defensive which is not possible for a stand up fight. Bruce was more out for ending the fight quickly which he was disappointed he didn't end it faster than he should've.Conditioning your hands doesn't guarantee that pounding your opponents head repeatedly won't end up with bruises on the knuckles.

@littledragon8966

6 жыл бұрын

At the end we must ask ourselves these questions: Which of the two closed down their school and left?? Which of the two changed their styles and took up learning different styles?

I wish I had gotten involved in martial arts as a kid.

Your wisdom is very valuable. I'd like to be trained by you if you were in the U.S.

what a load of crap

@RamseyDewey

7 жыл бұрын

+Glenn Richards How so?

@jupp9999

7 жыл бұрын

Ramsey Dewey, it made perfectly good sense, that Glen Richards is just jealous..lol Great Video

@scooterharris727

7 жыл бұрын

Ramsey Dewey .. because this guy starts talking about how many fights Bruce Lee may or may not have had before coming to America.. yada yada blah blah..and this doof is full of sh#& and doesn't even know that Bruce was an American.. born in San Francisco !

@glennr2358

7 жыл бұрын

It's crap because its hypothesising about something some guy may or may not have done forty years plus ago. Honestly, just move on from Bruce

@darynjackson5732

6 жыл бұрын

Scooter Harris yh but grew up in china from he was a baby...stop embarrassing yourself

I admire you bro Without insulting any one You disclosed each and every thing I m agreed that each art needs life time to b a master Thanks a lot God bless you dear Keep learning and teaching The best part ,what made me very happy ,u accepted your faults too Really thanks

His wife was there. He had a student with him also. Thank you for finally addressing the fact.

Another great video, Ramsey! "We triumph over chaos by telling the truth." I am struck by your story and how it relates to the history of science and the refinement of the scientific method over say, alchemy, astrology and other pseudo-religious/sciences. A "good" martial artist is an empiricist who tests his techniques in the chaos of real combat the same way a good scientist tests his hypothesis against the evidence of the real world. In this way, scientists and martial artists are truth seekers of the purest kind.

"Worse still, people began to worship Bruce Lee like a god who is above all other martial artists, even though the man never even fought anyone of note. Oh, the irony..." All true, but also, Bruce Lee was so good as a martial artist that, above all other martial artists, already accomplished martial artists of note came to him for instruction and training.

@MrCmon113

Жыл бұрын

Or they were simply mistaken. McGregor went to Ido Portal, plenty of athletes train with Joel Seedman. Eddie Bravo thinks space doesn't exist...

True words as always

ALL IN ALL, EVERYTHING DEPENDS ON HOW HARD YOU TRAIN AND HOW CLEVER YOU CAN ADAPT YOUR STYLE TO THE PRACTICES.

Bruce is and always will be that guy!

What you are saying is very true .in a real Street situation are against a nother still everything goes out the window most of the times..it turns out what ever works....