I feel nothing but sadness for all the pain every individual suffered through this conflict

@invisibleman4827

Жыл бұрын

The Kingsmill ethnic cleansing massacre deserves a bit more than just 'sadness'.

this is a real scummy thing to do to innocent workmen and the people that done it rot in hell our where ever they go when they depart this life FUCKING COWARDS,god love all the victims

@1888gp

Жыл бұрын

yeh like bloody sunday and the shankhill butchers

@invisibleman4827

Жыл бұрын

@@1888gp Whataboutery isn't a good look, do better

Kingsmill was wrong. No excuses. 🇮🇪

He's totally right , all the unrepentant perpetrators will face GOD'S JUDGEMENT for the atrocities that they have committed on all sides.

@Felix-rising

2 жыл бұрын

Some so-called atrocities were committed to take out people that were ethnically cleansing the Protestant community and security forces

It would hv cost nothing for MM to hv provided information to location of the still missing Disappeared to bring some peace to the families & he chose not to..didn't hv to name those involved just provide location info..

@invisibleman4827

Жыл бұрын

McGuinness and fanatics like him never cared. In their ugly minds, their victims "deserved" to die and their families "deserved" to suffer

The comments in this section you can see clearly here who experienced the troubles and those that did not!

I won’t ever speak ill of the dead, no matter who or what they were, that’s just me. For years he masterminded the deaths and destruction of so many lives, on both sides. However that said, he went on a journey no one ever thought would ever happen. And for that he does deserve recognition and credit. He was a settling influence around Derry when it was needed, and one that could definitely be used today.

@invisibleman4827

Жыл бұрын

That's like calling Harvey Weinstein a 'women's rights hero' for kicking off #MeToo.

@tjclarke1892

10 ай бұрын

A man deserves recognition and credit for stopping massacres and killings wow. Peace was a tactic, not the goal for irish Republicans

How many Catholics were murdered by unionists and loyalist paramilitarys ???.

@tjclarke1892

10 ай бұрын

No political party or person is trying to justify those terrorist groups in anyway. Irish Republicans do just that every day and in every way

As a Republican I feel the deepest of sympathy for this man in losing his brother, and for all the families of the victims of Kingsmill. Kingsmill was wrong and should never have happened, and in my opinion it did not advance our cause one iota, but the reality is war is horrible, you will never get a conflict in the history of mankind where innocent people don't lose their lives, that's not to say it's right or justified but it's the sad reality That being said I think despite Martins past he played a crucial role in bringing peace to Ireland and steering the Republican movement away from violence People may disagree with me and I totally respect that, but people need to understand Martin and many others joined the IRA and fought back against an oppressor at a time when they were politically failed, there was no other alternative

@jaypee6061

4 жыл бұрын

This was not collateral damage in a war , but naked sectarian terrorism. Nothing else ....... There is always an alternative to violence...... the vast majority of people did NOT use violence..... Peace., as it is , was only accomplished through negotiations , not through violence.......

@Felix-rising

2 жыл бұрын

Don’t say it like it was the only indefensible thing they did. The IRA we’re gutless cowards who intimidated their communities, killed soft targets and squealed like pigs when they got a taste of their own medicine. The latter they still do to this day.

@blueger5551

Жыл бұрын

How can you even call that war the ira killed those men because they were protestant ,sectarianism was what the ira were about suppose la Mon was part of they're so called war .

@invisibleman4827

3 ай бұрын

Stop acting as an apologist for mass murder

Tragedies on both sides.

@seansweeney8911

2 жыл бұрын

IRA did about three quarters of what was done. Keep that mind

@jamie7708

3 ай бұрын

​@@seansweeney8911in cases of cillivans which was about 1,740-1,840....Loyalists was crueler....loyalist paramilitaries killed 826 innocent Cillivans, while republican paramilitaries killed 653 innocent Cillivans, where British forces like the British army killed 150+....ira mostly killed British forces members like RUC or British army...plus if you sign up to be in the British army you are willing to die

@jamie7708

3 ай бұрын

According to information Ira was responsible for 1705 deaths out of the 3532 so its 48.25% of deaths, not 3 quarters of deaths that would be 2649 deaths

@davesunderland1026

3 ай бұрын

@@seansweeney8911 Why does that matter, my family were killed for being catholic yet we hold nothing against anyone who did or did not do it, its over, its time for peace

He is a peace maker what about Derry? My family were bustard's b4 they got shot!

@liammellows-hz3pf

5 жыл бұрын

Could you explain his Fraud allegations?

They didn't get their squatters rights.

All this because of a book of fiction and fantasy

800 years of colonialism. Time to call it a day.

Cmarion price.

Things like this is never ok you know. Heroes do make mistakes apparently. Martin actually didn’t instruct to kill innocent people. It’s just his comrades.

@invisibleman4827

Жыл бұрын

"Martin didn't actually instruct to kill people' If that's true, then the moon is made of cheese.

Brits out now

@P2K02

5 жыл бұрын

Not leaving sorry

@09weenic

3 жыл бұрын

We are not leaving Gillian 😂 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧

@Blobby192

Жыл бұрын

Sorry we're here to stay

@blueger5551

Жыл бұрын

Cilly were not going anywhere.

does this guy give a damn about the victims of the Shankill Butchers?

@scooby1992

Жыл бұрын

I think he did mention the people that died on both sides .

@invisibleman4827

Жыл бұрын

He's not obliged to bring them up when talking about the brutal murder of his brother in an ethnic cleansing campaign

@1888gp

Жыл бұрын

@@invisibleman4827 have a day off fucking muppet

Condolences to the bereaved, but that doesn’t mean your politics are righteous.

Who uploaded this? No-one can honestly say that life on Northern Ireland's streets hasn't greatly improved as a consequence of Martin McGuiness's involvement in the Good Friday Agreement, & his actions since then. The man in this film has every right to be angry. He lost his brother, & he will never be coming back. But for those who haven't lost relatives in the troubles of the past, what good do bitterness & grudges hold? They eat away - the most - at the people who bear them, & never at those responsible for injury &/or death. There are countless Tory politicians from Westminster who've acknowledged the part Martin played in the peace process!! Such plaudits from the Conservatives, for Martin McGuiness, were just inconceivable when I was growing up, in the '70s & early '80s.

@andrewgoligher5749

4 жыл бұрын

Fuck of he was a murdering bastard and paid m15 tout

@andrewgoligher5749

4 жыл бұрын

Dick what fuck you know

@bill4514

2 жыл бұрын

@@andrewgoligher5749 ah yes m15 noted for supporting the ira

@invisibleman4827

Жыл бұрын

"What good do bitterness and grudges hold?" Do you say that to the people who justify McGuinness's violence with their rhetoric about "Bloody Sunday/Famine/Black and Tans/800 years" or is it just for this guy whose brother was violently murdered by IRA extremist thugs? McGuinness deserves nothing but contempt and agreeing to no longer kill people doesn't make him a hero. The world is better off without him, and most of his victims' families would agree.

His name is Martin

well said..people shud not b applauded & even spoke of as a peacemaker just bcos they stop killing people..where did it get them..sharing power in a n i devolved government? he worked & got paid by British gov...informants got killed for that hahaha

@AmsterdamagedHQ

6 жыл бұрын

The IRA didn't kill people for simply being paid by the British government. They were killed for informing. Note the difference. Many prominent IRA men worked for British customs etc. Thats how they got their intelligence for certain operations.

@invisibleman4827

Жыл бұрын

@@AmsterdamagedHQ Of coirse they killed people for being paid by the UK govt. There's tons of examples of this happening.

Machine gun McGuiness Kneeled down before her Majesty and kissed her feet. We the Loyalist community accepted the unconditional surrender of the IRA. With love of course 💯

I have human sympathy for how this man feels, after his brother was so callously murdered in Kingsmill by the IRA. But we have to acknowledge that a serving member of the Army in Northern Ireland at that time - a man named Jackson - was murdering innocent Catholics in Ulster with impunity. It takes two to tango.

@dermotegan8940

5 жыл бұрын

Straight White British Protestant straight!!!!

@petercrawley7272

4 жыл бұрын

2 wrongs don't make a right, that's what bred the hatred and recrimination in this country for decades!

@charliebridges3584

4 жыл бұрын

​@Straight White British Protestant Think for one second, shit-for-brains. Protestantism has nothing to do with being British. The founders of Protestantism were German and Swiss. Visit the Reformation Wall in Geneva some time. You might actually learn something.

@amysands8925

3 жыл бұрын

@@petercrawley7272 Takes two to tango What an answer. Murder is murder. It's wrong no matter what. No excuses.

@scooby1992

Жыл бұрын

@@petercrawley7272 True and that is why the conflict lasted as long as it did , Many innocent civilians died on both sides . Those innocent Protestant men massacred at Kingsmill were apparently killed in retaliation for the murder of innocent Catholics the night before .We cant ever go back to those times . The same is true in the Israel / Palestine conflict .

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

First

Religion and hate... wherever you find one you’ll usually find the other lurking not far away

This guys brother was killed by a different republican group.

@shawnfinnegan64

Жыл бұрын

Mate. Come on

@randomstuff4639

Жыл бұрын

The same group only under a different name

Colin I'm in total agreement with you may he rot in hell he ruined my life my kids. lives !never said he was sorry. however he can't bullshit god xx

@rianbradley3424

7 жыл бұрын

Imagine invading a country and being surprised that the people fight back. Bigotry at its finest.

@conorl9305

7 жыл бұрын

Rian Bradley bear in mind this happened after 800 years of rape , murder and robbery by British heroes in uniform

@conorl9305

7 жыл бұрын

Gabrielle olorunda murdered 2000 innocents ? Where is the proof ?

@gabrielleolorunda9134

7 жыл бұрын

conor L ask tke victims!listen too news read a book y moron!

@conorl9305

7 жыл бұрын

Gabrielle olorunda well I can't ask the victims ? If murdered would they not be dead ? And how many innocents did the British Army kill and rape ? It's war , both sides are bad , let bigon be bigon

Martin sits with the holy father. He is a Hero a Saint. The whole of ireland knows Martin was a peace maker. God bless him

Martin was a man who had a journey and changed: he WAS ultimately a peacemaker. Is this a memorial to the 10 massacre victims or more generally the British military & connection? (1951, Monster Unionist Rally. etc.)

@seansweeney8911

2 жыл бұрын

Ye, a convenience journey. McGuiness, the snake that he was, has fooled you anyway. Colin Worton, by the way, is not some embittered Protestant, he had a person murdered.. it’s so clear that you never experienced the Troubles and don’t know the truth about it

The NI statelet was a sectarian militarized police state which led to war hunger strikes etc

@blueger5551

Жыл бұрын

Wasn't a war the ira were cowards .

@tjclarke1892

10 ай бұрын

The hunger strikes were nothing more than murderers and terrorists committing suicide because they were treated like the shit they were

Thee difference was Irish republicans were fighting because the English soldiers got on a boat and invaded ireland. Same way Russians invaded the Ukraine. Martin was simply a freedom fighter. He was born and bred were he was fighting against an invading enemy force who didn’t know the history or counties they occupied. Yes it’s sad to loose loved ones but like the Russians that’s died for Putin? Why?

@invisibleman4827

Жыл бұрын

That's a facile argument and you know it.

@tjclarke1892

10 ай бұрын

Invaded ireland ? Your aware british forces first set foot in ireland at the request of a gaelic king to help him fight against one of the other gaelic kingdoms?

This guy is talking shite. Martin was a freedom fighter. He was a peacemaker. This guy talking shite. Martin didnt kill his brother

@invisibleman4827

Жыл бұрын

MM was a mass murdering dirtbag who just stopped killing. Calling him a 'hero' is like calling Josef Fritzl a good dad for releasing his daughter from his cellar.

@tjclarke1892

10 ай бұрын

A man who kills hundreds snd then sets down his gun when he is about to lose isn't a peacemaker.

British colonialism is the ultimate cause.

@invisibleman4827

Жыл бұрын

Two wrongs don't make a right. How many 1845 famine victims sprang back to life after these men were shot? Just give me a rough guess, I'll wait.