The spotter was the most challenging part of that dirt road.

I appreciate spotters who volunteer their time to help guide other people through trails. But some are very overzealous for no reason. These are “crawlers.” They go slow. No reason at all to shout commands so fast they can’t register with the driver. “PassengerPassengerPassengerForwardForwardForwardSlowSlowDriverDriver.” I’ve heard pilots lose their engines and call mayday with more composure.

@jonathanblanc6826

2 жыл бұрын

I spotted, and I should have had the driver go much slower since it was his first time off roading. And It is hard to spot a new model vehicle when you don't know it's capabilities. The driver was going too fast so I had to switch directions without any proper synchronization to avoid him going off of the trail. Lesson learned on my part too. I'm not a spotter expert, but I know my capabilities on choosing the right lines on various terrains when the vehicle is being properly driven.

@MD-uu5nt

2 жыл бұрын

@@jonathanblanc6826 you seem to know what you are doing but you I would find someone shouting "passenger, passenger, passenger!" like that extremely annoying and off putting. Once or twice in a more relaxed tone would be more helpful for the driver I would imagine.

@lunamaria1048

2 жыл бұрын

AGREED!!... I'm glad i'm not the only one who thought the spotting was a bit much lol.... "PASSENGER PASSENGER PASSENGER BACK TIRE BACK TIRE BACK TIRE DRIVER DRIVER DRIVER!!"...... Like, ease up.. It's confusing, distracting and not fun for us drivers... It also raises driver stress and fatigue, when someone is yelling frantic instructions, over and over.

@DirtyBronco5555

Жыл бұрын

“Go go go go go go “.. thank goodness the person driving the bronco didn’t listen because they made it fine crawling .

@bufordard

Жыл бұрын

Remember off roading 20yrs, ago? You never heard this annoying crap

solid front axle for the win.

@natetollett5515

2 жыл бұрын

Well, not super fair to compare modded Jeep’s or rubicons to an almost base bronco with bigger tires. Add a front locker to it and a more experienced driver and you probably couldn’t see much difference.

@Gizamalukeix

Жыл бұрын

And then they give their go at the strip against my sick '92 lowered Civic hatch and realize it was all for nothing. Be mad. Be very mad. If you're not living a low life then you're living a no life

@heytherebato

Жыл бұрын

@@natetollett5515 you most certainly will still see a difference, locked or not. A solid axle is a huge advantage when it comes to going over deep ruts like you see in this video.

@fairlylocal7961

Жыл бұрын

@@natetollett5515 yeah that’s not rly fair either because most often the wranglers keep all 4 wheels on the ground. So locked or not they’re keeping themselves moving. Whereas the bronco actually needs lockers just to do basic trails. I have an unlocked tj wrangler and I have literally never needed a locker. I don’t do crazy trails but still stuff that unlocked broncos would struggle with

I'm a ford guy but I think the jeep still has it, the articulation is crazy in the jeep. Thanks for the video.

@dannhennells2681

2 жыл бұрын

I was surprised the bronco frame was so ridged since most Ford trucks have a very flexible frame. The one time it would have been useful.

@greenhawk3796

2 жыл бұрын

nah the jeep guys just know they have parts available for replacement when they inevitably trash the vehicle lol

@johnt6673

2 жыл бұрын

The jeep does have more articulation, but ford built the new bronco to be very competive with Ifs. Nothing new here . Others have done the same. . love the new bronco

@henryoak2001

2 жыл бұрын

Nice rugged looking mini van and jeep comparison

@hotrod7603

2 жыл бұрын

@@henryoak2001 you are Wong Gorgeous Bronco and an impøtent lifted Geo tracker

I like how the Power Wagon is sitting in the background like a dad watching his kids play in the park.

@DMAX-ed7pq

2 жыл бұрын

Lol

@anibalbabilonia1867

2 жыл бұрын

👌😂👍lmfao! Good one ☝️

@cesarpalmos8235

2 жыл бұрын

Or like someone who is to afraid to take the first leap.

@jordangraf673

2 жыл бұрын

@@cesarpalmos8235 oh come on. The power wagon could plow through that easy.

@cesarpalmos8235

2 жыл бұрын

@@jordangraf673 Oh come on, the Bronco can plow through it easily. It's all about the driver.

Pretty impressive for ifs but the wrangler is still king.

Great to see the Broncos out playing on the trails. We saw some of the demos at EJS this year but none it the wild. Should be a great year on the trails out here in CO and looking forward to seeing all the new rigs (and the builds)!

Fantastic video, thanks for the content

It would have been a better comparison with the Bronco and a 4Runner TRD. Both IFS, similar power. New vs old school. The Jeep is in a league of its own.

@1969darr

2 жыл бұрын

Give it time. Ford will finally admit that the Wrangler Rubicon is superior to the Bronco and go after the next prey.

@billredding2000

2 жыл бұрын

@@1969darr "...and go after the next prey." ...which will probably be the Jeep Gladiator. And then the Ford vs. Jeep back & forth will start all over again. ;-) -- BR

@essayibcs8528

2 жыл бұрын

Jeeps break. They suck

jeep has so much flex

I still take the Jeep over the bronco anytime! But the bronco is cool too!👌😎👍

You can really see some of these drivers are really novice especially the bronco driver. I think the bronco does good for stock, some of those jeeps are not stock so not really a fair comparison but those guys know how to drive their rigs

Lockers and solid axels appear to have the advantage over the independent suspension, but yet still some superb off-roadsters

@lunamaria1048

2 жыл бұрын

The Bronco has lockers

@toddmayers952

2 жыл бұрын

@@lunamaria1048 yes correct some of the top models do, but the independent suspension just doesn't articulat like a solid axle when one side is literally pushing down the other keeping the wheels on the ground for better traction

@collinbooker

Жыл бұрын

Any bronco can have lockers. It’s an option on all of them. The live axles are def the move tho wish the bronco had them

Jeep did better it has better articulation and flex in the suspension

@tonydmty1234567

2 жыл бұрын

NO doubt. Jeep Wrangler is superior to Ford Bronco (big chunky and boxy vehicle). ";-)

@GRcorolla-bt3mn

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly, and then bronco fanboys come with an excuse that the bronco in "speed offroading" like a Baja as if that's even a part of what real offroading is mostly about.

Seems all the Ford guys that keep saying the Bronco has more articulation are smoking some good stuff for sure.

@jonathanblanc6826

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, we were very surprised at how little both Bronco's were flexing. The Jeep has this segment monopolized because it's just that good, and it's been tweaked for decades

@CoryTheCanadian

2 жыл бұрын

@@jonathanblanc6826 Very true. Ford messed up big time by not going with the solid axle in my opinion.

@bkassouf1

2 жыл бұрын

@@CoryTheCanadian From a pure rock crawling perspective you could make that argument. For almost literally every other category IFS is better. Ford made these to sell to the masses. SFA while great for rock crawling falls short in many other areas. The good news is that Jeep won't be changing their formula anytime soon. So SFA lovers will still have that as an option.

@RickStefani

2 жыл бұрын

@@bkassouf1 It is not just rock crawling but anytime the terrain gets more extremely choppy terrain. Take Moab, it is rock but is very smooth and articulation for the most part is not as important as tires and wheel base. The PNW is mostly dirt, Roots and a little rock but short wheelbase, narrow and articulation is important. I think one of the other main aspects of SFA is that it is just more robust.

@johnt6673

2 жыл бұрын

@@RickStefani ford has shown the ifs is very capable as is. It is the jeep guys that are butt hurt. Ford has many videos with a stock jeep with a stock bronco doing the same videos with ease.. Some feature a stock bronco sport out doing a stock jeep...

Most annoying spotter ever.

Big boy drives that Bronco like someone else paid for it!

The Wrangler is the King of the trail👍🏾

@hotrod7603

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah until badland bronco arrives

@TJ.1

2 жыл бұрын

@Hot Rod lol u wish. Bronco is more comfy on the streets 100%. But nothing can beat solid axles in offroad 😉

I’d be curious to know if the Black Diamond was using his rear locker?

@KingLuis1985

2 жыл бұрын

looks like it was off most of the time.

Jeep wins…as always

The spotter for the bronco in the beginning sounds like a stroke

Jeep for the win. Solid front axle anyday.

I'm surprised at how stiff the bronco is. Flex to create traction is everything when off roading. Jeep by far is still king. Hit and miss Ford!

@jonathanblanc6826

2 жыл бұрын

Everyone wheeling with these Broncos said the sane thing. They have very little flex, even with the sway bar disconnect

@fireant1272

2 жыл бұрын

@@jonathanblanc6826 yes the bronco seems to compete with the grand Cherokee imo.

@hotrod7603

2 жыл бұрын

The stock jeep only have slightly better flex , meanwhile that is a base bronco with no locker or sway bar disconnect , compare with badlands that pos heep will be nothing in front of it

@SanctumOfDreams

2 жыл бұрын

@@hotrod7603 except jeeps that dont have an electronic sway bar disco, still have sway bar links that can be disconnected. making the flex vastly greater in any wrangler, base model or rubicon and everything in the middle.

@michaelarchangelthehammer

2 жыл бұрын

Aftermarket needs to sas the bronco...then we're talking..

Not really apples to apples... that's a base bronco without lockers or disconnecting sway even!

@mjl1712

2 жыл бұрын

That’s a badlands with both lockers and disconnecting sway bar. It’s as close, stock for stock, that you will get.

@bluesti3

2 жыл бұрын

@@mjl1712 Only the very first one is... the rest of the video is not, when it's struggling without lockers.

@SanctumOfDreams

2 жыл бұрын

Good observation but even if you compared it to a base model wrangler with crank windows, you can still take the sway bar links off in any wrangler trim. Not apples to apples I totally agree with though. Until the bronco puts a solid front axle and limited slip diff in their base models, it never can be apples to apples.

@hotdogstandman

2 жыл бұрын

@@SanctumOfDreams I just hit a trail today where I had to disconnect my sway bar 4 times. Have fun with that I guess, not my style of offroading though. Bronco; you just press a button

@jordangraf673

2 жыл бұрын

@@hotdogstandman you can do it with the press or a button on some wranglers. That’s the point. Even if you don’t pay for the convenience of the button you can still do it.

I wanna see that XJ!!!

I personally love doing everything in 2wd…. Until I absolutely need 4h or L. My reason for this is I like to make trails more challenging in some cases, and increases the longevity of your T-case.

Pretty good for the stock bronco with too much air in the tires and inexperienced driver. Wasn't even locked half the time. Both the wrangler and jeep will take you down any trail you want especially with 37s and lockers. Never drove a bronco but assuming it rides better I would probably pick it over jeep just cause I've had better luck with ford. My last jeep started having trouble at 40,000 miles and was worn out by 80,000. My f150 is still pretty solid I take it down trails as bad as them with 35s and a level. The jeep and forerunner guys are always surprised to see me at the end of the trail. I got quiet a few dents and scratches though

@joebidden4914

2 жыл бұрын

That jeep was stock and no lockers man. Even had stock tires. It was a base model Jeep.

@FreakyT333

2 жыл бұрын

My 15 JKU Rubicon is at 85k now with 0 issues, has many badges of honor and lived no easy life. Granted it’s properly upgraded but drivetrain is mostly stock aside from a tune and CAI. Not sure if you neglected maintenance or what on yours but reliable is one of first terms I describe mine with. The guys actually out there running 6-8 trails in the Broncos are breaking steering left and right already, Ford has a few revisions to make before I would trust it where I take my Jeep. No fan boy, I own several of each brand, it’s just the reality I’m seeing currently.

@devonwitt7282

2 жыл бұрын

Your right Daniel the bronco will be better on your arthritis

@hunterbasselite6826

2 жыл бұрын

@@joebidden4914 still has rear lockers . Just not front lockers , rubicon’s have front and rear , Broncos are optional aswell with rear locker being standard

@joebidden4914

2 жыл бұрын

@Hunter Basselite but the Jeep in this video wasn't even a Rubicon. It was a X model which is the base and it has no lockers at all.

They're both cool vehicles. The Bronco has the advantage on road and as a daily driver. The Wrangler, with it's solid front axle, has the edge off road. JMO. I like this video.

I think the Bronco owner should've used -77 offset wheels so that it would utilize both edges of the trails simultaneously. 🤦🏻‍♂️

So much hate!! If you are a jeep guy, don't trash Ford. If you are a Ford guy, don't trash jeep. Everyone has their choice to pick whatever they want. Either Jeep or Ford has good and bad, and you learn to live with it. The whole point of this is have fun offoading and get to places that the regular city car can't. Instead of fight about Broncos and Wranglers... Better enjoy watching the best of the best ofroader ever... UNIMOG 👍👍

Yes power wagon watching the kids nice

love how the jeeps just climb would not get a bronco now cause of it not pushing through the rocks but good video.

I don't think the spotter knows what he's doing..

@jonathanblanc6826

2 жыл бұрын

I would look at it from a different angle....My having never spotted a Bronco was hard to judge when and where it would flex. And not knowing the throttle control response made it more difficult. And this was the driver's first time off roading, so it was not an easy spot.

Seems everyone was enjoying themselves and did very well considering their skill level .

Bronco well done! but Wrangler’s the king off road!

Love these comparison of lifted and modified jeeps against broncos which are in essence stock (except for larger tires on one of them).

@robs6733

2 жыл бұрын

@KFC Man no they're not.

@robs6733

2 жыл бұрын

@KFC Man but they ARE modified.

@robs6733

2 жыл бұрын

@KFC Man like I said, modified.

@robs6733

2 жыл бұрын

@KFC Man dude, you're like a female saying "I'm only a little pregnant"! You either are or you're not! These are modified. At minimum, they have lifts, and aggressive aftermarket mud terrain tires.

@hellkitty1014

2 жыл бұрын

Dude these Jeeps are not modified much to make a big difference. Stock Rubicons are untouchable on articulation.

From a life long Ford guy; they screwed up going IFS... I'd only own one if it was sas'd, which I can't afford. Too much $$ for the average guy.

@BKXX

2 жыл бұрын

A base sas is around 40k not bad at all.

@razgriz4118

2 жыл бұрын

A base is right under 30k

@GRcorolla-bt3mn

2 жыл бұрын

Wow, never knew SAS cost around 30-40k. I am sorry stock solid solid front axle any day for. Jeep for the win. Any stock solid front axle 4x4 for the win.

Not bad at all for a 4 cylinder, manual, and no sway bar disconnects

@anibalbabilonia1867

2 жыл бұрын

The bronco also come with swaybar disconnect!

@xm3ntal620

2 жыл бұрын

@@anibalbabilonia1867 The Badland and the FE are the only ones that get the swaybar disconnect. It is not an option on any other model. The one you see in the video is a base model 2.3

@hotdogstandman

2 жыл бұрын

@@anibalbabilonia1867 Nope only the first one in the video the rest of them dont

Amazing how the jeeps don’t seem to strain at all. It’s like their drivers don’t even need help.

@christophernuckolls9964

Жыл бұрын

Well, they're all heavily modified, and the Broncos are stock. That old saying rings true here, "You can take a bone stock Jeep, and by just adding tires, wheels, suspension, compresser, winch, bumpers, skids, and lockers, you're ready to go off-road."

Would have been interesting to see how well some of the vehicles in the background did.. Honestly too many people get adversarial with their off-road videos, like everyone who wheels knows that you cannot accurately judge two different vehicles in a video like this, but people think the video will get more traffic if it's Jeep vs. Bronco.

I'm seeing a lot of excuses here. "well the bronco doesnt have sway bar disconnects" sounds more like "cmon hes just a little guy take it easy on him". People are also forgetting you can disconnect the sway bar links in *ANY* wrangler trim. All you need is a couple 18mm wrenches and boom, your $28k wrangler sport is suddenly wheeling circles around your $60k badlands sasquatch with a $20k dealer markup.

@davidboothbyiii8249

2 жыл бұрын

Neither one of those Broncos were Sasquatched. One of them wasn’t even a “badlands”

@Treehouse1230

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I’ll take my base bronco with Sasquatch and out-wheel all the clowns in this video. I don’t need a sway Bar disconnect. Half the problem with the people in this video is they don’t have half a clue as to what they’re doing.

No doubt the wranglers did well and had more articulation, they have SFA after all. But the Bronco did very well too compared to them especially for not being badlands models. The jeep at 2:40 was trying a little too hard tho lol

@jaycevessier7554

2 жыл бұрын

This bronco doesn’t have sway bar disconnect, it would have flexed way harder

@eliasgutierrez6789

2 жыл бұрын

@@jaycevessier7554 exactly, that's what I meant when I said it wasn't a badlands model because the badlands has the SBD

@saltyfloridaman7163

2 жыл бұрын

@@eliasgutierrez6789 yeah I'd love to see those broncos with the sasquatch package

oh all good so fun

Trail 11 washouts are the unofficial test trail of the NE lol

@4x4OffRoadChannel

2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely that section is great for testing the suspensions

That guy trying to direct the bronco messed up the whole video.

Everytime I hear a bronco owner talk about their sway bar being disconnected, all I think is "was that extra half inch articulation really with it to you?" Lol

Is that a base bronco with just bigger tires?

Brocno need a long travel suspencion . Or solid front axe

That spotter was really annoying me…

@jonathanblanc6826

2 жыл бұрын

Um. Read the comments to others...If you know spotting, and have a first time driver, then it is not easy. Cheers

Por mucho los arrebasas los jeep, cualquier version, excelentes ,manejos, Bronco le falta mucho por aprender en rutas

Bronco is cute for trying

Ty Scott, another thing why are the Broncos not in extreme mud or rocky, or some of the steep mud trails lol

@jonathanblanc6826

2 жыл бұрын

Because both Bronco drivers have never off-roaded before.

Jeep did it better.

by observation, the bronco driver seems new vs the skilled jeep driver. and as its been pointed out, seems like the diffs were not locked on the bronco. although yes the jeep definetly performed better, still think that the bronco has made improvements being its been on a very long hiatus. jeep has held on to this segment for some time. i mean lets compare second/third gen jeep to this. when it comes down to it, jeep is only good off road, in every orther category, jeep fails to hit the mark.

I have a buddy that bought a new Bronco with the 2.7L. I have a 2019 JL Sport S Wrangler with the 3.6L. I beat him in mpg on both city/ highway and off roading. Other thing that disappoints him is when off roading the Bronco is wider than the Jeep and doesn't turn as sharp .

@jordangraf673

2 жыл бұрын

Really? Gas mileage isn’t too great? Interesting. What do you average usually?

The Badlands Bronco did great probably due to the lockers. The other Bronco probably has open diffs but I think the negative offset and the lack of skill is what made his Bronco not as capable.

Bronco was like....I have to do that again?? ..noooooooo

The articulation on the Jeeps is far more superior it just floats though these trails. The Bronco has some challenges with no up from the spotter. Bronco may just need to stay in Baja Races.

We all know the Wrangler can wheel!... However, I'm very impressed by what Ford has done with the Bronco!

@rage801

Жыл бұрын

The comparison I would like to see would be the bronco versus a 4Runner. I think that's more comparable

Look, im no ford guy. Chevy and Jeep with a 2020 JL Rubicon on 35s...but the new bronco, they did pretty well with it...BUT, a Wrangler won a world War whereas the other took a 25 year smoke break.

@razgriz4118

2 жыл бұрын

Yet Ford built the most “jeeps” that won that war…

Wow that bronco is nice, but the bronco spotter needs to be replaced he was shyt.

Nice if jeeps All had stock suspension only jeep I saw that was stock was the teal one and it looked and acted like the bronco.

@jordangraf673

2 жыл бұрын

The bronco will never have a solid front axle. That’s the biggest difference.

@underfedcoyote5.022

2 жыл бұрын

@@jordangraf673 on this video having a solid axle really didn’t matter much when most of the jeeps didn’t have stock suspension anyways. If your gonna compare like this is trying to show make it even.

Where's the comparison? Built to stock?

Bronco is like wheeling a Grand Cherokee lol

You forgot to disconnect the sway bar. And why are you comparing heavily modded Wranglers to a stock Bronco?

I don't own neither, but i think jeeps are more off road style than broncos . That's only my humble opinion

Both are very good, but at least in Mexico the Jeep is not prepared to take it out of a concessionary and take it to in the 4x4, on the other hand, the Bronco is. The Jeep you need to put improvements to be able to cross these roads that is shown in the video which the cost rises much more.

@yuniorlucero1817

2 жыл бұрын

Stocks jeeps can be wheeled easily. Hell, my stock 2001 jeep would've been able to wheel all of these. Shit slaps

@jordangraf673

2 жыл бұрын

This just isn’t true. Even a stock 4Runner with better tires could do this stuff easily.

Do jeeps not come from the factory with lockers anymore?

There is no clear cut winner. They are both great off rigs

Put top of the line model broncos up against a base jeep and the Jeep is still better

Jeep 4 ever

Crazy the Bronco just came out and hangs with the Jeep that's been out for years. That tells you how good ford really is.

@AustinH7

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah they copied what Jeep has been doing this whole time except went with IFS. Not that hard mate

MAKE A VIDEO ABOUT THE BRONCO WAVE(🤙) HANG LOOSE. it's already happening in michigan and surrounding states. Let's make it an official thing....

The bronco is nice but it is more like a tank, its way too big like a fj cruiser. Just my opinion though. I would prefer a 4runner or a wrangler.

Those Bronco's do a pretty good job of playing second fiddle. Still, they have pretty good off road characteristics for most users. They can carry lunch for the Jeeps? Grin.

The Bronco is pretty damned impressive!

Really wish the Bronco came with a solid front axle.

Nice but not quite an even match displayed. That black Jeep is stacked and that base Bronco didn’t seem to have his locker on 😂

There’s nothing that’s going to articulate like a well built solid axle system. Doesn’t take long into this video to see that

Should have tested a sport model against those broncos more fair

The Bronco was much more capable than the drivers! Very poor comparison! Spotter could use some training also!

With just 2 minutes of watching. The Jeep is the better off-road option.

I don't think they need spotters if they are not on a dangerous trail or a rollover situation. Let people pick their own lines, that's how they learn; you don't learn anything if you are trying to follow orders.

Coming to a used dealership near you

Driving with one hand on the wheel and the other on the window sill.

not stock jeep stock bronco and obvious driver skill lvl difference

Magazines are complaining about the Jeeps crash test. Jeeps in my opinion aren't built to be every comfort & back & forth work vehicles. I'm not saying the Broncos are bad offroad but the Jeep puts it to shame offroad sorry.

Jeep for the win!!!!! But let’s be honest….most of neither will ever see this

Other than the angry grill on the Jeep I vote jeep! But if I was mall crawling bronco would net me some posser credits lol

I’m all about the original bronco. Outside of Jeeps, i love them. But solid axles rule in almost every off-road obstacle. Especially crawling. These new “broncos” are insignificant. IFS in the desert? At 100 mph? Sure. But not slow crawling. They can’t compete. Stability is key. And their “flex” is nonexistent. What a waste. A complete slap in the face to the original. I expected much more from ford on this one. 🤷🏼‍♂️

En el minuto 4.03 del video el bronco batalla en unas piedras y se patina, tiene el chofer que dar reversa y volver a girar volante a la derecha , batallo, y el wrangler no le pasa eso

Ha - Bronco bump at 4:13!!!

What trails/area is this?

@jonathanblanc6826

2 жыл бұрын

Rausch Creek Off Road Park. Trail 11, and Crawler Ridge

Where is this?? Rausch Creek?

@4x4OffRoadChannel

2 жыл бұрын

Yes this is Rausch Creek Off Road Park

This why I wheel only with 1 or 2 close friends. Waiting around listening to some know it all screaming directions that you can't hear anyway is more than this vet can handle.

This spotter is wayyy to repetitive and frantic, yelling the same instruction over and over in a flurry of rushed instructions, as if there is some need to rush.... That would stress me out and raise driver fatigue, draining any fun.

I think it would have been better if the annoying "spotter" would've just shut the hell up. I've been wheeling for over 35 yrs (that's a fairly mild trail btw) and he's giving them some stupid lines.

Where is this?

@4x4OffRoadChannel

Жыл бұрын

Most videos are from Rausch Creek Off Road Park and Famous Reading Outdoors in PA

Jeep still best off road 🙆

I see the bronco needs a coach..lol