Broken By Concept Ep : 079 - Reacting To NEACE - Is High Elo Solo Queue Worth It? - Toxic Relapse

Broken By Concept Episode 79 // Thanks for tuning in guys! Cheers :)
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00:00 - 03:40 // Neace Video “Zero Incentive To Play Above Diamond”
03:40 - 07:45 // Why Nathan Likes Playing In Master Games + Versing Great Players
07:45 - 14:15 // The Higher You Play The More Fun + Why Reviewing Is Not Intuitive
14:15 - 21:00 // What People Don’t Understand About Ranked Divisions + Game Starting AT Master Tier
21:00 - 26:50 // Why The Pursuit Of Mastery IS THE Incentive To Play Past Diamond
26:50 - 32:50 // Negative Of Climbing Above Diamond + Queue Times Being Good + Why Trolls Are Negligible
32:50 - 39:15 // Neace Not Having Time To Be High Elo + Queueing With Old Account Debunked
39:15 - 43:15 // People Very Rarely Stop At Diamond 4
43:15 - 54:13 // Reacting To The Comments On The Video + Breaking Down Narratives
54:13 - 57:25 // MLA Discord Explosion
57:25 - 01:03:00 // Blubb Toxic Relapse + Negative Friendship Groups
01:03:00 - 01:12:44 // TP Changes
01:12:44 - 01:16:15 // Nathan’s Mailbag - Ben - Midbeast Jungle Manipulation
01:16:15 - 01:24:27 // Nathan’s Mailbag - Justin - Parallel Progression
01:24:27 - 01:30:15 // Nathan’s Mailbag - Lara - Coaching Younger Players
01:30:15 - 01:40:14 // Nathan’s Mailbag - Selman - Toxic Competitive Game Mindset
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Пікірлер: 42

  • @jonahmagid3800
    @jonahmagid38002 жыл бұрын

    I play in high gold/low plat. From my experience the game is a blast; however it took Nathan fixing my mindset and mentality towards the game to have fun.

  • @vondoplays1630
    @vondoplays16302 жыл бұрын

    Got the three blocks started vod reviewing while at work and the champ mastery is comin in let’s get into the details this season bois keep that bbc energy

  • @NotAllWhoWanderAreLost641
    @NotAllWhoWanderAreLost6412 жыл бұрын

    My wife popped in on my watching the pod to say Nathan is cute. FML ff 15 go next. Thanks for the pod bois! #MAXVERSTAPPEN

  • @jamesforeman8028

    @jamesforeman8028

    2 жыл бұрын

    Just a beard diff. You’re outclassed gg ff fast

  • @zeinfeimrelduulthaarn7028
    @zeinfeimrelduulthaarn70282 жыл бұрын

    Just watched the first 43m of the video, it was so good, i've listened to the last 78 ep but i dont comment TOO much But here let me say, i love Neace, i love the guy (what the guy seems to be on camera at least, i dont know him irl), i love his content and a lot of his views, and he is a good content creator, solid entertainement And not once i had the feeling that you were incorrect toward him or that this video would just be head to head clash and losing the arguments, no. You stayed in the realm of concrete, obvious arguments, and good discussion, reacting to what you guys think first, then how to back it up, your experience playing AND coaching, especially NA clients, at around the discussed level, with some great analogy and explanation of thought process as well Anyway my english is stuffed but what i mean to say is : Good talk guys, well articulate from both of you, didnt feel like any lack of respect yet points were adressed one by one with solid arguments

  • @axiosschmidt6001

    @axiosschmidt6001

    2 жыл бұрын

    The problem is that content creators like Neace are not responsible with their platform. The fact that his branding says Challenger coaching, while he plays in Diamond at best is disturbing. At some point he had discount code for unranked smurfs. His has low effort EDU content and thats it. Also he hit Chall on LAN not NA. Coach Curtis has bit Chall since season 4 (I might be OCE but he is like top 20 every season). He debunks the idea that you have time to climb. Even Neace back in the day used to do 100 games to diamond videos. He just go lazy relying on his old credentials. When LOL changes every year.

  • @timmifermla5086
    @timmifermla50862 жыл бұрын

    Oh dear I didn't know I was on my last strike as Curtis' admin... Are there any openings for Saltu's admin team just in case?

  • @N3versaw

    @N3versaw

    2 жыл бұрын

    Secret agent tim

  • @GamaerDaPie

    @GamaerDaPie

    2 жыл бұрын

    There is no saltu admin team. It's just Nathan

  • @r3v1xx
    @r3v1xx2 жыл бұрын

    I strangely feel like getting Carl's Jr. after this episode.

  • @Hysterikku
    @Hysterikku2 жыл бұрын

    YES those games curtis are what makes league enjoyable

  • @LuxiBelle
    @LuxiBelle2 жыл бұрын

    You know it's going to be a good one when you see that Carls Jr logo

  • @VigilTheProtogen
    @VigilTheProtogen2 жыл бұрын

    Morning from NA coaches, haven’t been able to play 3 blocks on my university’s winter break yet due to family stuff. And soon I’ll attend a hackathon for coding up an amateur video game. So many delays, ugh. I got +70 LP this preseason but

  • @gerbos
    @gerbos2 жыл бұрын

    Huh I only just came across this video by chance while looking for league content (and as a fan of both Coach Curtis and Neace) and I only stuck it on as some listening while studying. But you guys talking about the nature of addiction and relapse really struck a chord with me to the point where I realised I stopped when I was doing and was just listening. So then it was hilarious to me when you suddenly started talking about League again, for a moment I was like "where did that come from?" before I realised what I was listening to, because what you spoke of was so universal. Anyway, just wanted to let you know that I think you guys are really switched on blokes, and I'm happy there's creators like you out there. Also it's funny hearing you talk about the TP changes now that the whole support top-bounty gold thing is going on. What an unpredictable meta shift in regards to a seemingly innocuous change, although you were spot on in a lot of ways too.

  • @thealover
    @thealover2 жыл бұрын

    what the fuck i just found this i love this type of stuff! usually watch old ls coachings or have interviews in the background. this is perfect!!

  • @bluefrost8026
    @bluefrost80262 жыл бұрын

    Something that wasn't touched on with the TP changes is tempo resetting for mid laners. Your base timings are going to matter a lot more, and 1v1 laning as a whole will matter more, not just in the realm of solo killing. Forcing someone to take a recall and them having to walk back to lane is a lot more punishing than forcing them out and your lane opponent just TPing back and getting a free tempo advantage.

  • @MinecraftLaunch
    @MinecraftLaunch2 жыл бұрын

    20:29 soloq really is wearing the one ring

  • @anniekujo
    @anniekujo2 жыл бұрын

    euw gold player here. I complain about 3 min queues, rarely have longer queue times.

  • @halenbnicol
    @halenbnicol2 жыл бұрын

    Any thoughts on the TP changes making champions like TF, Galio and Shen stronger? Early in the game these champions will be able to make roam plays by ulting with no counterplay pre 14 minutes. This means you can freely ult other lanes without it worrying about any other laners using TP to counter roam. Potentially they won't be able to match these champions pressuring side lane and ulting to teamfights the entire game if it shifts to an Ignite meta like you guys spoke about.

  • @Bishop44
    @Bishop442 жыл бұрын

    Do you think spell book will become meta from current tp changes?

  • @riusekbensel7019
    @riusekbensel70192 жыл бұрын

    I don't understand why so many high elo people says that the tp change won't affect low elo. I'm a platinum player and tping to a early skirmish in mid or bot was a massive factor in a lot of my games, and it was also a big factor when I was silver and gold. I agree with Curtis that this is a big change. But I'm not sure if top laners will stop taking tp. For example, I only play Irelia and I don't need tp to get solo kills in any matchup and also having tp let me come back to lane after an enemy gank so I don't lose that much. It depends a lot on the champion. I agree that tanks will now be even less revelant. I don't care to be honest because I only enjoy playing carry-oriented champions in top. The tp change take us away and gives us something. Top laners and mid laners won't be able to react instantly to fights anymore. Unless they predict it somehow and they tp to a turret. But if the enemy see it, they can react in time and retreat. But on the other hand now the enemy solo laner won't be able anymore to freeze the lane after you solo-kill them because they won't be able to stop you from shoving the lane up to their tower. That way a solo kill will also mean a tp-advantage, which can then be used for a dragon fight in advance.

  • @jrgenchristensen3924
    @jrgenchristensen39242 жыл бұрын

    Where is episode 80 at guys?

  • @viastis4107

    @viastis4107

    2 жыл бұрын

    Checked twitter and nothing there. uhhh morning workout just got boring lol

  • @mittieownd
    @mittieownd2 жыл бұрын

    25:40 absolute facts

  • @miroslavstoyanov4462
    @miroslavstoyanov44622 жыл бұрын

    cheers ^.^

  • @creepinwhileyousleepin
    @creepinwhileyousleepin2 жыл бұрын

    Yea I didn't quite understand his argument about smurf que and long que times. Its obviously going to take the que longer to find people if it thinks your playing at that level. Also im a fan of the tp changes as an illaoi main lol

  • @stevenstump1265
    @stevenstump12652 жыл бұрын

    This may be a bit late and I've only gotten to 44:01, but I feel like you might be discounting NEACE too much. It isn't completely necessary for most people to reach the highest of echelons -- you say so yourself that you appeal to a specific subset of the LoL community. What he does do is get tools that work into people's hands and get them to the "base of the mountain" to begin with. Even if it's flawed, I still think that such a thing is enough: the people that would quit after reaching that point or are unwilling to unlearn potentially harmful habits weren't *meant* to climb to the highest spot to begin with, and most of us aren't. What they DO get is the satisfaction that they HAVE beaten the game and the competition to that point, and that's a reward to itself. I still really believe in your content though, especially when you can pair it with someone like NEACE so that you can get a more encompassing view of the game. Keep up the good work!

  • @axiosschmidt6001

    @axiosschmidt6001

    2 жыл бұрын

    Neace community has Dunning-Kruger effect.

  • @alexalmadovar6251
    @alexalmadovar62512 жыл бұрын

    if they change tp its mace fast rouming supports most broken in game.

  • @Vocalism123
    @Vocalism1232 жыл бұрын

    How long is the wait time for the midlane academy?

  • @flyrehash5124

    @flyrehash5124

    2 жыл бұрын

    usually like 20 days to a month I think

  • @BrokenByConcept

    @BrokenByConcept

    2 жыл бұрын

    Won't be another opening until early Jan -- Curtis Wait time is usually 3/4 weeks

  • @Darkwinkie
    @Darkwinkie2 жыл бұрын

    Nathan is a comedian

  • @aryapalla2491
    @aryapalla24912 жыл бұрын

    BBC GO GO GOO

  • @axiosschmidt6001
    @axiosschmidt60012 жыл бұрын

    Neace go called out Yikes! So much that he had to close his dms.

  • @asosound
    @asosound2 жыл бұрын

    huge nerf to katarina , katarina relys on early tp flanks

  • @shane_cs
    @shane_cs2 жыл бұрын

    I only want challenger for the backpack

  • @oliverbrinker8730

    @oliverbrinker8730

    2 жыл бұрын

    did they bring that back?

  • @Libeer-rs3hu

    @Libeer-rs3hu

    2 жыл бұрын

    No they did not

  • @Lander12
    @Lander122 жыл бұрын

    I swear you are league nerds but I love it

  • @martintsanov8531
    @martintsanov85312 жыл бұрын

    I don't think you should take advice from Neace if you want to climb. Let's be real. The guy's only goal is to make a buck , his community beautifully displays the Dunning-Kruger effect. Have you been to his Discord?

  • @mattwyd2161
    @mattwyd21612 жыл бұрын

    guy on the left talks too much