while I understand that these guys are "amateurs" in the sense of no huge corporate budgets, they surpass any history channel programing in expertise and enthusiasm, thank you for your hard work! these episodes are truly a joy to watch.

@arteedeetoo3144

7 жыл бұрын

Tom Skonieczka authenticity is why we are all here. we love history as much as they do :)

@mikem.s.1183

2 жыл бұрын

Totally. A pleasure to watch.

@neweden1241

Жыл бұрын

riggght lol!!!

The Great War, C&Rsenal, britishmuzzleloaders, and Forgotten Weapons are some of my absolute favorite KZread channels. I love these collaborations.

@wierdalien1

7 жыл бұрын

TwentythreePER ive only recently discovered british muzzle loaders. he is awesome. Gun Jesus ive been following for a couple of years.

@stephen9869

7 жыл бұрын

Hicock 45 too surely!

@lazaglider

7 жыл бұрын

Alistair Shaw I've said it before and I will say it now, Rob could present a 3 hour special on watching paint dry and I would watch it twice.

@wierdalien1

7 жыл бұрын

lazaglider yes! i like watching his handloading videos partly because i am english and will never get to do such a thing, partly because i like engineering and partly because he explains so well

@nigeh5326

7 жыл бұрын

Alistair Shaw same here This was the first time I've watched one of the specials with c&rsenal and the Great War fascinating 👍

Well done Indy, Flo, Othais and Mae. (You are WAY too kind plugging the Channel like that, my friend.... :-)... Indy, I've enjoyed TGW since the first episodes. You guys are really adding to the current generation's awareness and understanding of this epic struggle. Can't way enough good things..

@TheGreatWar

7 жыл бұрын

...and don't forget about Toni and Markus who also worked behind the Camera and set things up.

@britishmuzzleloaders

7 жыл бұрын

Apologies to them, Indy. I'm not familiar with all the staff but of course kudos to all for a well polished, professional show.

@800beemer

7 жыл бұрын

Always waiting for your next vid and many thanks for recording our history. Your humour doesn't go amiss, either. Thanks.

I can totally understand British war stories being inflated over time if Monty Python is accurate. "Machineguns? Luxury. We had to fire 600 rounds per minute with our bolt-action rifles, after both our hands had frozen off."

@TheGreatWar

7 жыл бұрын

seems legit.

@jamesstudholme3161

7 жыл бұрын

Robs don't worry Russians you'll be out of the war by October and in another one

@TwentythreePER

7 жыл бұрын

I can't seem to find those quotes from Monty Python. When did they say that?

@simonwatts8338

7 жыл бұрын

moosemaimer 15 aimed rounds per minute at a 3 ft by 3 ft box at 300 yards to pass the rifleman's qualification.

@bluesrocker91

7 жыл бұрын

TwentythreePER It was actually from a thing called 'At Last The 1948 Show'... Which featured John Cleese, Graham Chapman, Tim Brooke-Taylor and Marty Feldman in a sketch called the Four Yorkshiremen. It was before the Pythons got together, but they did perform it live a few times.

I'm just imagining a British Pilot telling his commanding officer "I could probably hit one of those balloons with my old hunting shotgun, let's try and rig a way for me to fire it!"

This is an example of the potential of the Internet experience to broaden and deepen education and interest to a degree that Television would never attempt. You guys are on the ground floor of superior education. Thanks again..

In Canada the soldiers of the First World War would quip, _The Ross rifle makes a pretty good club._

I remember Lawn/Yard Darts very well, I was playing around seeing how many time I could spin one around before it would land. As the number of turns I got it to go went up, I paid little attention to the spot it was landing was creeping up to my foot, till finally landing right in the middle of my right foot. After a quick trip to the emergency room, ended up limping around for a week or two.

@TheGreatWar

7 жыл бұрын

ah the 70s

Finally ,I get to see what Great Granddad carried around!

@devonhc7770

7 жыл бұрын

Justin P n

Nobody expects the spanish gunsmiths!

@tropicaldoodad

7 жыл бұрын

Am heartened to see at least 10 people here got this. LOL

@matthijsvancampen7901

7 жыл бұрын

Ward Vermassen this is gold

@theonemanclan3363

7 жыл бұрын

Ward Vermassen Made a spade instead of a gun... no one saw the hat coming :)

@800beemer

7 жыл бұрын

!0 for the inquisition. We will arrive when you least expect us.

@eeeboytvr

6 жыл бұрын

Cardinal Fang fetch the comfy chair of wisdom :o

Long Enfield rifles tended to be issued to Territorial units...particularly those that arrived in France in 1914 and 1915...and those that went to the MEF in 1915...you'll see a lot of them in pictures from Gallipoli because it armed both the territorials AND the New Zealand army, who used the long pattern until 1916.It was also common in East Africa and was issued to the 25th 'Frontiersmen' Fusiliers until 1916.

OMG, a mild criticism of the SMLE. Brave man.

On the next Great War Special: Stopping the invading crayons in hand to hand combat!

Strangest British weapon I have seen from WW1 is in the Imperial War museum in London. Its called a ' 'Welsh Knife' and looks like a giant Ghurka Kukri crossed with a meat cleaver. It was used by certain Welsh Regiments for close combat in the trenches and even had a Regimental crest on the blade. You would not want to be attacked with it believe me!

Great episode. A shout out to Mae and Flo for their work behind the scenes. I cleaned a lot of old 8mm ammo while watching. Multi-tasking of course. Keep up the good work.

They should do a special on lawndarts and other deadly kids toys from the 70s

I'm eternally grateful to Forgotten Weapons for steering me to this channel! After I finish watching I'll tell them.

“Yeah, you can say ‘you don’t need breaks, you’re Germans’ but try finding one of you guys on the weekends.” - Othias, never change man.

1:04:12 A lot of them got packed away in grease, only to be dragged out in 1940. My father got issued with one (possibly)(he was an RAF ground crew), or he had to help clean up the one my grandfather got issued as a member of the Home Guard. But, he did mention this weapon to me when discussing his war time experiences in WWII.

You two are my favorite channels on YT right now. Now that I have a job (recent college graduate, mind you) I will remember to Patreon you guys (Great War and C&Rsenal). You two are def. on my list!!!

@TheGreatWar

7 жыл бұрын

Thanks for your support.

@thesweatleaf

7 жыл бұрын

no dude thank you

Question: How did the development of Lawn Darts affect the war? I could only imagine the horror of dozens, hundreds, thousands of Lawn Darts flying over No Man's Land into the enemy trenches.

@johnfisk811

7 жыл бұрын

Impact. Nice pun. Intended? Look up the Ranken Dart. Yes Lawn Darts used in WW1 for real.

@doctorrandomiise2532

6 жыл бұрын

Yep. They're called fletchettes.

The Mk 6 Webly has to be one of the most purposeful looking handguns ever.

These videos are absolutely fantastic!So interesting man,I could listen to this guy all day!! Thanks very much.I am a happy Lime😊

Webley Fosbery = the first pistol to lose out in the 1910 US pistol trials. Screws started coming off after just 600rds.

ForgottenWeapons has a video on the Ross mk3 that goes over the bolts not locking properly in more detail.

The Canadian government ordered Savage 99 rifles (pattern "D") for use by the Montreal Home Guard in .303 savage. I've only been able to find a couple of pictures of them

I found The Great War from In Range TV and C&Rsenal from The Great War, 3 fantastic channels that ought to do more together.

Thanks! Love these collaborations.

It seemed Indy was getting a little frustrated, but I really enjoy this series the weapons engineering is fascinating. Thank you for the great work Indy the guys and candrsenal.

Good job! Everyone involved with this deserves a pat on the back. Really great content and use of media/technology. Very educational. Thank you very much indeed.

@TheGreatWar

7 жыл бұрын

Thanks, glad you liked it.

I know somebody who owned a Webley Fosseberry, he said it often would not fire properly unless shot with the arm/elbow outstretched dead straight...Still very very cool though.

What a great match-up these two channels are! Well done

In regard to "Lawn Darts", when we were kids we would put the target in the back yard, Then we would go out to the front yard and throw the Jarts over the house. From time to time we would actually hit the target. Surprisingly we never hit anybody.

34:00 Someone has probably mentioned this but if not, those “Lawn Darts” sound a lot like the Roman “Plumbata”, actual weapons of war!

British military .303 had bevelled rims to counter act rim lock which is more common with modern made ammo

@bushyfromoz8834

6 жыл бұрын

jake brown yep, all the gripes about 303 British come from modern commercial ammo that uses SAAMI spec chambers dimensions and headspace which are WRONG and not the same as the British standards of the day

@myparceltape1169

2 жыл бұрын

Bloke on the Range has had rimlock and commented on the rims on modern cartridges

The Flo can't be broken.

RE: United States production of arms during the Great War I will not dispute what Othais said about US production of small arms during the Great War, but US airplane production in April 1917 was nil. The US relied on the French and, to a much lesser extent, on the British for airplanes. The US Air Service was also dependent on the French and British for machine guns. The first Nieuport 28s were delivered without guns. When guns finally arrived, the USAS had only enough to outfit each plane with one gun. As more guns trickled in, they equipped planes with a second gun.

@cracklingvoice

7 жыл бұрын

My understanding is that an early episode of TGW mentioned that US arms/ammunition factories were started up on European currency. The US was great for small arms, but we were very backward when it came to advanced equipment like tanks and aircraft. The inventory in US arsenals in 1941 is a great example. One of the first nations to adopt a semi-automatic rifle as standard issue, but we were flying outdated aircraft and driving sadly under-armored and under-armed tanks. Also, it sort of figures that we were using British and French aircraft, since the French and British had done most of the development for fixed-wing combat aviation. We just picked up what had already been developed and then ran with that (as my country tends to do with a lot of things).

@TheGreatWar

7 жыл бұрын

very interesting discrepancy.

I had a lee enfield it was such a stunning weapon.

Great job again gents! I'm a proud owner of a SMLE myself. Very fun bolt gun to take to the range. Cheers from Texas!

Love these episodes and love that you guys support other KZreadrs. I found your channel through History Buffs and have been hooked ever since. Keep up the good work Indy and crew and please get crackin' on the Mackensocks...haha.

@TheGreatWar

7 жыл бұрын

All (socks) in due time.

There was a quote in "The First World War" (John Keegan) of a German Commander thinking they were charging a British machine gun in 1914, from a memoir.

Very good! I stayed up late for 2 evenings to watch this. Keep it coming, U fellows are Champions.

@TheGreatWar

7 жыл бұрын

Great investment in time.

Very interesting thanks to all involved and yes I am now subscribed to c&rsenal 👍

Lawndarts was small potatoes...we used to take our fiberglass bows and shoot the arrows straight up in the air and run for cover.

really like your shows and both of you. You guys are hilarious and good. keep up the good work.

Indy and Othais are fucking perfect humans, I love the collaboration

I have always wanted an SMLE, the best bolt action rifle.

on reversed bullets: i heard it was described to squash on impact and knock little pieces of metal out the back of the shield which would act as shrapnel possibly injuring, or if lucky, killing a soldier behind the metal plate shield. I also heard that elephant guns were used against Prussian soldiers (snipers) that would use metal plates to hang around in no man's land and shoot from a closer position.

Indy I would say the old SMLE longs that were used on the Ottoman fronts ended up there because Indian troops who were still equiped with them were sent there.

You are going through the weapons in great detail. Will you also take a more detailed look at the different types of tanks and airplanes in the future?

@TheGreatWar

7 жыл бұрын

We will try.

saying that the Lee Enfield as default is heresy that deserve a trip to the pyre

I loved Lawn darts and I should have been an example of why they were banned. My friends and I would use them in a weird sort of relay race in which we would chase after the dart while others were being thrown along our path. Lucky for us no one was hit but looking back we were asking to be hit. lol

This is really good, fun and all, but I think I much prefer the edited version, lasting about 30+ minutes, but with that very attractive Young lady shooting the actual guns on a shooting range. Somehow, that gives me a much better perspective on the guns, and how were they actually used. Still - great work, this is probably one of the best history channels on YT up to date.

Locking Spring on Webley pistol: a friend of mine was a Gurkha officer during the Aden Emergency, his side arms were his .38 (after this incident the officer's side arm became the Browning Hi Power) and his Kukhri. His pistol cleaning kit came with 3 replacement locking springs, it was common to periodically replace these springs as under constant tension, metal fatigue would eventually set in, especially as these revolvers were not used that often due to poor ammo availability. I do not know if this was service wide practice or a precaution supplied by the Regimental armourer. Probably unofficial but probably widely practiced.

I read a German Officer account from one of the Bavarian Guards at Mons talking about the mad-minute, and thinking it was a machine gun. I can find the specific quote if you want me to find it Indy. Its in John Keegan's 1914-1918.

@TheGreatWar

7 жыл бұрын

Thinking we mentioned it back in 2014 actually?

@Sumonebody

7 жыл бұрын

The primary account comes from Captain Bloem of the 12th Brandenburg Grenadiers at the Battle of Mons (W. Bloem, ‘The Advance from Mons’, London, 1930, p. 58. in J. Keegan, ‘The First World War’, London, 1998, p. 109.). ‘No sooner had we left the edge of the wood than a volley of bullets whistled past our noses and cracked into the trees behind. Five or six cries near me, five or six of my grey lads collapsed into the grass... The firing seemed at long range and half-left... Here we were as if advancing on a parade ground... away in front a sharp, hammering sound, then a pause, then a more rapid hammering - machine guns!'. According to John Keegan 'The soldiers opposite the Brandenburg Grenadiers belonged to the 1st Battalion Queen's Own Royal West Kent Regiment and it was their rifles, rather than the battalion's two machine guns, that were causing the casualties'. This shows that there were German accounts, well at least one, that prove Germans did actually believe they were facing machine guns when encountering BEF rifle sections in 1914. You may well have talked about this and the mad minute in 1914 because it’s an important point to the show of the contrast the two armies training at the start of the war.

@andrewwmacfadyen6958

7 жыл бұрын

The late Prof Brigadier Richard Holmes covered the Mons action in some detail in his TV series War Walks.. Holmes was a great historian and a wonderful TV presenter.

@myparceltape1169

2 жыл бұрын

The description of short bursts of fire separated from from each other would easily be mistaken for a machine gun crew choosing one target after another. And it was just a group of riflemen each taking their own time to aim.

Unfortunately, a German sniper was able to incapacitate the live chat.

@hisdukeness3037

3 жыл бұрын

That or artillery took out the wire

You know I'm irish and when we were celebrateing 1916 at are school they lent us decommissioned lee enfeilds. I felt like a kid at Christmas. Just useing the bolt felt awesome.

@provablegrub4581

7 жыл бұрын

N94able What school were you in? If only my school could do something fun like that for commemorating the Rising.

@georgesclemenceau199

7 жыл бұрын

N94able why and how did they even get those rifles and handed them to you. That sounds awfully weird if you think about it

@N94able

7 жыл бұрын

Jar Jar Binks We got them off some guy in the reserves. We were marching so they found us some old rifles. But they were paper weights completely safe. They welded a rode kn the barrel

@jamesmerchant5527

7 жыл бұрын

N94able I know you're Irish when you type like a spaz

@johnsanders186

7 жыл бұрын

+N94able, Cool, thats excellent you managed to get to hold a piece of history...Idk about now, but when i was in the Army Cadets _many_ years ago we used the MKIII's all the time for gun training & got to fire them on the range. If ever you get the opportunity to fire one it's something i'd defo recommend doing.. :)

I so want a No.4 as my first rifle after I get my PAL. Because, I just painly love the rifle and my great uncle who was KIA Sept 1944 in Italy while serving with the PPCLI most likely used one...

Right after 27:33, you can hear Lindybeige raging in the distance.

we loved playing w/lawn darts

Very informative!

lol love the fact that he has a Hamburg newspaper in front of him.

@TheGreatWar

7 жыл бұрын

An original one from August 1914

@rvanhees89

7 жыл бұрын

The Great War what is the name of the newspaper? Hamburger .....demblatt? the fold in the middle doth not allow me to read it.

@TheGreatWar

7 жыл бұрын

Abendblatt

Great vid!

I believe it was Walter Bloem of the 12th Grenadiers during the Battle of Mons who stated that they were nearly destroyed by British rifle fire, although, there isn't a specific mention of the unit believing they were under rifle fire. Without a doubt though, the British Expeditionary Forces marksmanship would have been exemplary, they were at the time, I very well trained professional force.

Greetings from Toronto Canada! Love the stuff on this channel! Such a unique and interesting look at the events that took place a century ago. Question for Out of the Trenches, it's amazing how vastly different the Western and the Eastern Fronts were to each other. I never knew how mobile the Eastern Front actually was until I started to watch this show. Did the Eastern Fronts have trenches in the same way the Western Front did? If so how then was there so much movement? Shouldn't it had resulted in the same bloody stalemate that the West turned into? It seams to me very weird that the two Fronts would be so different in this way. Thanks keep up the amazing work

Absolutely BRILLIANT!

Please don't give up on this tri-partnership! There might be a brief surge of information from one or another, but it makes a more tasty historical stew! It makes makes you all more worth following.

I like your channel! Nice job!

Fantastic video!

you get a like and share to my friends for this! ... and because of the Ernie-Mug

love this stuff

OMG, Othias is a mad-minute Denialist! (No way could a bunch of rifles sound like a machine gun.)

No one can break Flo! Cool. Great video.

After shooting many thousands of .455 rounds through the Webley top break revolvers, I have never heard of the stirrup latch for the opening the revolver breaking. If it was a problem then the Army regulations would have made note of it. This design feature was used on all of the Webley Revolvers. The Webley was probably the best combat revolver ever made.

@TheGreatWar

7 жыл бұрын

If you want a "history-off" with Othais, you should tell that to him, he is always open for feedback.

I love these episodes.

You think that part about the Ross Rifle is funny Indy, you should go watch the C&Rsenal episode on it. The story behind what it took for the rifle to get where it did and just the surrealistic characters behind it, the story of the Ross Rifle, if made into a movie would be called: "National Lampoon's Rifle Maker", starring John Belushi as Sir Charles Ross. It makes perfect sense when you consider that he spent his twilight years in St. Petersburg, Florida recklessly driving a Chrysler Imperial and using pajama bottoms and a pith helmet as his casual wear. The final kicker being that his last words were spoken to his nurse and were simply "Get the hell out of here.". So all things considered he actually fit in in Florida quite well. Dave Barry would be impressed.

Ok, I'm going to have to use the "Conrad Von Hötzendorf is the Ernie of World War I". I burst out laughing when I heard that.

This is a Badass Video!

Great show

SMLE... I always thought SM meant there was a LM as in long magazine version of the LE rifle. But rather Short is referring to the rifle itself being shorter than its predecessor.

My Mk6 is called Doris, 1917. In my eyes it is the ultimate service revolver! As legendary as the 1911 but it does also suffer from the spring being temperamental!

Thanks!

Have they done a video on the Irish during ww1... it will be awesome to learn about the "army" that my great great grandfather was in

@Skoookss

7 жыл бұрын

NateQuinn in My experience most Irish people who fought in the war were a part of the British army

@nigeh5326

7 жыл бұрын

NateQuinn there are one or two good documentaries around about the Irish soldiers who served with the British army and about issues surrounding their service on u tube

@provablegrub4581

7 жыл бұрын

NateQuinn It would be cool if they talked about the events surrounding the Rising, the RIC, IRB, IRA and maybe even during the Irish War for Independence and Civil War.

@natequinn7956

7 жыл бұрын

thanks

@TheGreatWar

7 жыл бұрын

They have done a video on the Irish.

No one used to 45acp would consider the recoil of a .455 Webley heavy. I found it easy to shoot a quite accurate. It is a large handful and I'm sure those with smaller hands might have problems. But recoil isn't one of them!

Swedes??? Working weekends??? Maybe in the summer, but your Winter weekend is about 6 days long!😉

We had a WW2 bayonet that we played with and found cigarette tins of blasting caps on the farm for blowing drains in the swamps and we survived the 70s

Co-Starring Mae and Flo!

In Len Deighton's book 'Fighter,' about the Battle of Britain, there's a picture of a downed German airman being taken prisoner. Deighton was amazed that the picture was published at the time. The British infantrymen are dressed in leftover bits of archaic uniforms, and only ONE of them has a rifle...a Ross!

Jarts or Lawn Darts are German. Something useful had to be made from the millions of Pikelaube sitting in old warehouses from the war.

I have a smle llee Enfield I really want a Webley I love the Webley revolver over a jamming 45 semi auto ,the name of the game is reliabilty out in no mans land or a enemy trench,cheers all love the show.

Rimmed cartridges, especially mil grade ammo, didn't cause any problems. Firing off surplus ammo regularly doesn't lead to rim jams. New, commercially made ammo however....

"Did they ever wonder why you went thru so many crayons?"😝😉💯 then the tangent about lawn darts!! "You talking to me?"bwahaha😍💥💯

had lawn darts.. punched one through a piece of corrugated tin roofing! 1980.

Is it possibile to upload the full video of the prievous special episodes with Othais? In particular the special about italian weapons. Thank you for the work guys, both TGW staff and Othais.

@TheGreatWar

7 жыл бұрын

+Lorscia the special on Italian weapons is online if I am not mistaken

I had a Lee Enfield it was amazing to shoot.

Patron of both channels. Love it

@Candrsenal

7 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

you should do more on Sam Hughs. He's one of kind.

We love Othais!

Hi! I'm just wondering did they ever used to scavenge guns of the battle field and precondition them for the new inventory? Thanks! I love the shoe by the way! :-)

I love these