Skin-on-skin contact costing money is the most insane concept I have ever heard of

@witchy90210

11 ай бұрын

Because thats what they arent charging for other things they would charge if they didnt let you hold it.

@katehobbs2008

10 ай бұрын

It is evil. Positively evil.

@ss-pw4zj

10 ай бұрын

It’s probably consulation, not just a hand shake

@cmdrmeldoc59

10 ай бұрын

@@ss-pw4zjdidn’t know people shook hands with their baby after it comes out like «good job bruh, welcome to the world». 😂😂

@LoriTalbot-du2qt

10 ай бұрын

So what happens if you can't pay for it? Do they not allow you to hold your baby?

I swear if Americans found a way to privatise the oxygen in the air and sell it at a profit they probably would.

@hajratalib2125

2 жыл бұрын

The lorax o’hare😂

@kayseacamp

2 жыл бұрын

I mean that already exists with regards to oxygen canisters and delivery.

@Templarofsteel88

2 жыл бұрын

don't give them any ideas. :P

@gertrudescouves260

2 жыл бұрын

PLease! Don't give them any more ideas!

@ArsenGaming

2 жыл бұрын

I would not be surprised. Here, you have to pay for just about everything you get, and have to pay much higher amounts for it than in other countries.

As a nurse in the UK, im sure ill be paid more working the US, but i would rather stay in the NHS because it is such a huge honor to work for a health system that gives people so much comfort financially and do not burden them with having their health and medical needs taken care of. Such a huge honor! Like its just the humanly thing to do with your citizens tbh

@clear.5999

Жыл бұрын

what about now? 🤣🤣🤣

@ariabm44

Жыл бұрын

Whatever is free is not always good. Europe has a much better healthcare system which is also not expensive as in the US. I am a doctor working in the NHS and I am EMBARRASSED that I joined this idiotic system that provides AVERAGE training for their doctors with ridiculous salaries and very poor quality of care for their patients.

@caitlynlawrence8502

Жыл бұрын

No there is no guarantee that you'd get paid more here in the states. In fact most nurses are quitting cuz the conditions are so poor and not enough for the pay. Stay where you are it's most likely better there. We currently have a massive nurse shortage. 😏 teacher shortage too!

@caitlynlawrence8502

Жыл бұрын

@@ariabm44 huh that's a really interesting perspective. Which system would you say works the best out of the modernly developed countries that have more developed medical technology? Cuz it seems to me that there are issues in each system. And not small ones either.

@ariabm44

Жыл бұрын

​@@caitlynlawrence8502 yes I agree that all systems have issues. Personally I have worked both in central Europe and NHS. Now you don't always need advanced technology to provide care when you have a system (NHS ) that due to cost effectiveness treats you with guidelines and medication that people in Europe have abandoned 20 years ago. In UK you might be able to help people with very rare or chronic diseases requiring modern technology in medicine but if you have something simple you suffer. Unfortunately when non medical people like managers step into a healthcare system this is what happens. Managers should be people coming from a healthcare profession that they are able to understand the nature of the job. Not some random tesco managers that's stepped in taking also double the salary of a front line worker.

Sometimes I think this country is going to the dogs (and in many ways it is) but then whenever I do any comparisons with the US, I suddely feel extremely grateful to be living here! That "skin on skin contact ($40) really summed it up for me....it seems there is literally NOTHING (including holding your own baby) that corporations in the US won't put a price on. It all pretty sick really.

@raymonds7492

2 жыл бұрын

They really do own us😒

@philsarkol6443

2 жыл бұрын

They got to get rid of the corporations owning politics/politicians. There is no government that can take care of it's people. It seems to me everybody is owned by corporate America. It is a difficult situation America is in right now. The political and economical division amongst the people is so big, the only ones who are truly profiting are the corporations , holding everybody hostage at gunpoint allmost, for the allmighty dollar. Charging $40,-, for a mother holding her baby just after being born? Charging EVERYTHING to the max!! CRAZY...

@fightingblindly

2 жыл бұрын

Keep the Tories away. The Republicans helped this along her in the US.

@pontuzz560

Жыл бұрын

The saline really did it for me lol. Its just salt water for Christ's sake

@jprp999

Жыл бұрын

America IS the "Dogs" we are going to.....

My mom got breast cancer and went bankrupt from all the hospital bills…. Having to go bankrupt just to not die is disgusting.

@slavianalbanovich9025

2 жыл бұрын

I don't understand why the people accept all this.

@karlee462

2 жыл бұрын

@@slavianalbanovich9025 because the average american doesn't understand that our system is different from other countries. here in the usa nobody talks or thinks about anywhere else but here

@slavianalbanovich9025

2 жыл бұрын

@@karlee462 but here.. ?

@Januaryschild

2 жыл бұрын

@@slavianalbanovich9025 She means that very few people in the US think much about other countries besides the US, much less travel to another country (only about 1/3 of us have a valid passport). We get very few news reports about things that happen in other parts of the world unless the US has something to do with it.

@slavianalbanovich9025

2 жыл бұрын

@@Januaryschild sure, but today the world has changed and thanks to the internet it is possible to communicate with other people from all over the world. Americans, at least the young ones, will have to ask themselves why the whole world is horrified at the thought of American healthcare.

The only thing I don't understand about the American health care system is why Americans put up with it.

@evan

2 жыл бұрын

“Cause at least it’s not communist!!1”

@FatNorthernBigot

2 жыл бұрын

@@evan yeah, they're haunted by the spectre of socialism. 😨

@torianderson6982

2 жыл бұрын

This implies that Americans have a choice...

@FatNorthernBigot

2 жыл бұрын

@@torianderson6982 individually, no.

@harrychristofi6725

2 жыл бұрын

@@evan Very funny and sarcastic response Evan 😂 Communism is not the same as universal healthcare. You can still have some capitalism and universal healthcare like European countries

The craziest thing about American healthcare wasn't even listed here. It's the fact that your insurance company can deny coverage for something your doctor recommends. Like, if your doctor recommends a procedure or a certain medication, your insurance company can say "no, we don't think you need that". My doctor and I have been struggling to get prescriptions approved for over a year now. She's tried several different medications, and the insurance company doesn't like anything. Bear in mind that without insurance, some of these prescriptions are over $100/month. One was $500/month. So it really limits your medical care based on your health insurance's decisions.

@zymelin21

6 ай бұрын

my wifes sisters daughter was in the US navy and had something happen to her which needed surgery. It became bothersome since the hospital (she was a civilian then) did not want to work with US navy insurance!! Fortunately she lived in Phoenix AZ, and so did (at the time) senator John McCain definitely a navy man. He was contacted and intervened - she got her operation. Shame on the hospital!!!

@nicopitch7591

6 ай бұрын

i forgot they can deny shit thats crazy

@Luismayer77

5 ай бұрын

How people think USA is better than Europe is beyond me. Not saying is a shithole, not at all. But we are decades ahead from them

@goldensloth7

4 күн бұрын

evil

A few years ago, I had some medical issues. I spent 3 weeks in hospital. I was in a coma for 6 days. Had a CT scan, an MRI, chest xray, EKG, IV, medications, meals, consultations with 3 specialists, blood tests. Since discharge, I've seen two more specialists, I see my family doctor every 2 months for follow-up. I see the specialist for follow up every year. I have routine testing to monitor my health. I'm due for another CT scan soon. I'm Canadian. I didn't get a bill for any of it. Americans love to sneer about how "it's not free, your taxes pay for it!", as if we don't know that. Well, I was a doctor before I retired. The taxes I paid over the course of my working life MIGHT have covered that, but I doubt it. Also, I don't have to worry that some insurance company is going to disallow my claim after the fact, or that my coverage will run out. Sorry, Americans, but, bad as our system is, it's better than yours. I was courted by American head hunting firms when I was in practice. Turned them all down. It would go against my personal ethics to work under the American system. I can't imagine qlworking in an ER, not being able to resuscitate someone with a cardiac arrest, and handing their gelrieving family a dead body and a bill for thousands of dollars. I honestly think that's evil.

@Khagrim

9 ай бұрын

That taxes argument is just stupid. Yes some part of my taxes is going to healthcare, but when I or someone in my family have a medical emergency we don't need to pay thousands or tens of thousands of dollars out of pocket. Just in recent years my family members had several big surgeries and it cost us nothing. Including an open heart surgery. I live in Russia btw

@lorettatayor5840

8 ай бұрын

WHAT!!!!!!

@wfcoaker1398

8 ай бұрын

@@lorettatayor5840 Which point confuses you?

@Dantm928

6 ай бұрын

​@@wfcoaker1398Being american lol, the medical costs sounds horrifying honestly.

As someone in the Uk I believe that we should receive a bill after treatment but that is zero’d off at the end, just so people really know how much they’ve “saved” by having the NHS.

@olivercoulthard5468

2 жыл бұрын

I agree with this

@realscottsummers

2 жыл бұрын

That's a good idea

@andij605

2 жыл бұрын

Can't you check online? I know we have "free healthcare" in Hungary, so I paid via my taxes. But on the national health insurance website I could check every single health related spending under my name ever, even back in 2000. It had everything from GP visits to subsidized drugs and specialist visits. I lived in the UK a bit, but I tried to cut all my ties there since, so I can't check anymore if NHS has something like that. I do have my full NHS history with me, but I'm too lazy to check now if it has costs.

@mrxsatyr8459

2 жыл бұрын

this^^^

@arpilclark1

2 жыл бұрын

100% it may stop some people taking advantage?

So I’ve experienced both American medical and NHS. Here is my comparison: in America, I once passed out from some bad period cramps at work. I worked LITERALLY across the street from the hospital. My boss called 911, had me taken to the ER, where I woke up and was given one disposable heat pad and released. Total due: $1,780. Over $900 of that was for the ambulance ride… of about 25 feet. In England, I got an eye infection. I went to A&E in Morden, and while I DID have to wait for quite a while, when I was finally taken back, the doctor came right in, checked me out, and then left and immediately returned with a tube of antibiotic gel for me to take home. I wasn’t covered by the NHS yet, so I agreed to pay cash for services and medicine. £7 total.

@Vikinggirl1679

2 жыл бұрын

Yes the American health care system sucks and is broken. The damned insurance companies run it not the doctors. Doctors get frustrated when insurance companies decide what care they can give not what care they feel the patients need. A woman barley gets 24 hours of care after giving birth. Insurance companies are constantly fighting not to pay bills even though you pay to have insurance. I have insurance, 4,000 deductable. Might just as well not have it. Disgusting. I would rather wait a little longer and get better and affordable care and not lose my house cause I got real sick!

@kivzzzz

2 жыл бұрын

Wow! First of all - what a robbery the situation in the US is. Second of all - I'm so sorry to hear someone can actually pass out from period cramps. 😳

@thefreedommovement

2 жыл бұрын

@@Vikinggirl1679 while I somewhat agree, my mother was a medical malpractice claims insurance adjuster. Basically decided how much the insurance companies (that insured the doctors) could pay out, or if fighting the charge in court was worth the legal costs. Part of the issue is the legal system. So many people sue doctors when the outcome of their treatment isnt perfect, which is rarely the doctor’s fault. So part of the high price is to cover doctor’s insurance against civil suits, which cost money no matter how frivolous.

@thefreedommovement

2 жыл бұрын

@@kivzzzz One of the queens of England had the same issue (it’s called dysmenorrhea). She used cannabis as treatment. Before we had legal weed, I just passed out from the pain. Now I self medicate.

@Vikinggirl1679

2 жыл бұрын

@@thefreedommovementsorry but baloney! Don't believe that for a second! Greed greed greed and me me me is all this country is now. Especially those at the top. 4 years of a false orange blob presidency have exemplified that.

My wife's British and it blew my mind when she went to the hospital for a check-up, and had surgery the next day like it was nothing. I had a bad cramp in my neck and charged $1,500 for just walking into the hospital in the US.

@kingasparagoose6849

9 ай бұрын

One thing i see usonians do a lot is say 'nhs has huge wait times' like no.. they dont

@loubyloulou

9 ай бұрын

This is why it annoys me when people from the US say "yeah but you have huge wait lists" or "yeah but you'll die waiting to be treated". The NHS will treat you VERY quickly if it's needed. I needed surgery following a severe tear during birth. They saw me on the Thursday and operated on the following Tuesday. Also I'm sure I read that the wait times AND quality of care are generally worse in the US and many go bankrupt for it too. They have one of the worst maternal death rates of the developed world.

@treeaboo

9 ай бұрын

@@kingasparagoose6849 Nah, I'm British and the NHS does sometimes have huge wait times, but those wait times are only as long as they are due to the chronic and purposeful underfunding the NHS has been receiving over the last decade, they've been getting longer over time and it's a big part of why NHS staff keep going on strike, as the NHS needs more funding. However those wait times are also usually for things that aren't immediately urgent, if you need surgery right now then you'll get surgery right now. Despite wait times, the NHS is miles ahead of the US system of healthcare and if you really want you can still go private anyway and at least private costs in the UK are fairly reasonable, unlike the US. The security the NHS provides cannot be understated.

@WilliamSmith-mx6ze

9 ай бұрын

What hospital did she go to? Surgery the next day? That's not how the NHS works. "Get on the waiting list" is how the NHS works.

@WilliamSmith-mx6ze

9 ай бұрын

@@kingasparagoose6849 Yes, it does.

It took my mom 5 years of dealing with our insurance to get them to pay for my $47,000 appendectomy when I was 6 years old. They refused to pay for it because it wasn't a "scheduled operation" as if you're going to wait around when your kid is screaming in the middle of the night. It took away a lot of my childhood because as a single mom she was already struggling and having a 47k bill hovering over you affecting your credit doesn't help with your stress levels. It's disgusting how many people have to suffer because the medical system here leaves you bankrupt.

@gooner_duke2756

7 ай бұрын

wow that's terrible. Its like business first, compassion... well, somewhere down the line. In the UK, paying through our taxes (its roughly 8% of your income, but can vary on your tax rate, etc) its for everyone and anyone, everyone is treated equally and its about care for every citizen, without any financial burden. I know in the US anything centralised is seen as socialist or communist 😂 the UK is actually quite far from both and is essentially a capitalized country and has been for about 400 years. BUT... you can have a balance. You can have free trade, democracy, etc. AND have socialist type elements, like healthcare (defence/military, our criminal justice system is completely non-political as well and separate from the elected government. No one is above the law, etc., certain things that are just well, common sense). Hope things change for you in the US.

@lrd5900

6 ай бұрын

47 thousand 😮😮😮😮. I paid about 16 dollars for staying two nights after an appendectomy 15 years ago. The surgery was free, it was staying overnight that costed a few dollars. Heart surgery, 12 dollars for staying the night and zero for the surgery. This was/is in Sweden.

Americans: "Nothing is free, you're still paying for it in your taxes!" Me: "Yeah, but because *everyone* is paying for it in their taxes, you're each paying *a shit-ton less* for it. That's how division works, genius."

@grayhalf1854

2 жыл бұрын

And then they reply that you're paying for other people, hence COMMUNISM!! 🙄

@IceMetalPunk

2 жыл бұрын

@@grayhalf1854 "If I do it myself, it's charity and wonderful, but if the law makes me do it, it's communism and evil!" "So you'll donate to charities that pay people's medical bills?" "Psh, of course not, it's my hard-earned money!"

@pigs18

2 жыл бұрын

@@IceMetalPunk But they do, with every single item they purchase. They just like to pay it twice.

@IceMetalPunk

2 жыл бұрын

@@pigs18 "But they do" -- who does what? I'm not sure which part of my comment or my other reply you're... well, replying to.

@IceMetalPunk

2 жыл бұрын

@@pigs18 "Insurance is factored into the cost of all goods and services sold in the US"? Um... can you please explain that a bit more to me? If I buy an apple, what part of that cost exactly is going towards what kind of insurance?

Immediately clicked, I am a us health care economics reporter who stayed in London for a month to report on the differences. This video was made for me. My medication is $7,800 per month in the US and 8£ on the NHS

@FatNorthernBigot

2 жыл бұрын

I think it's £9, now. What a rip off 😂

@harrychristofi6725

2 жыл бұрын

That’s because America is corrupt as shit. If only Medicare could negotiate prescription drug prices with pharmaceutical companies we would have the same prices as the UK.

@emmaw_5719

2 жыл бұрын

People don’t realise that Scotland get free prescription aswell as the nhs!

@FatNorthernBigot

2 жыл бұрын

@@emmaw_5719 it's free in England for children, OAPs and those whose life depends on the meds. However, what right-minded person would begrudge a few quid to help the NHS? I prefer to pay. It's the least we can do.

@klimtkahlo

2 жыл бұрын

Living in the “greatest country in the world” suddenly feels like a lie doesn’t it???

I bankrupted at 19 due to medical bills in the USA. Moved to the UK when I was 29 years old., best thing I ever did. The NHS is amazing!

I absolutely busted up laughing when you said it was the Ryan Air of Healthcare. That’s the best description of the US healthcare system I’ve ever heard.

Welcome back to a man who is increasingly more relived that he is now a British citizen.

@solared

2 жыл бұрын

He still needs to pay America's taxes, though.

@solared

2 жыл бұрын

@@SeanoHermano no, as long as he has US citizenship, he must pay taxes and file Tax returns, even if he is living permanently abroad. it's stupid.

@jojoton4eva

2 жыл бұрын

@@solared No, it's actually a very clever way to make lots money off of people, who don't live in the US, and the US government doesn't do anything for them since they don't live in the US. Very clever, and immoral, and unfair, but that's basically what 'Murica is build on.

@imhalida

2 жыл бұрын

@@solared Wow, that is messed up. What if he never pays? What would the US do to him? Would they ban him from the US? Or perhaps extradite him?

@bronzekimkai

2 жыл бұрын

@@solared He is a British citizen now

I love how you're not just saying 'everything in the UK is free', you're actually giving an idea of how much these procedures cost the NHS...makes me feel even more grateful that we get so much paid for, when you're not on huge amounts of money it's a huge burden off your shoulders 💙

@aliciabuchanan7080

2 жыл бұрын

I’d be happy to pay what the nhs pays over what we pay. Still significantly cheaper.

@QE2Glasgow

2 жыл бұрын

It isn't actually free. You pay National Insurance off your earnings here in the U.K.

@beccyshore1303

2 жыл бұрын

@@QE2Glasgow ok, it's free at the point of delivery ;) and NI is a relatively small amount compared to say, what I paid for health insurance as a freelancer in Germany (if you have an employer they pay a fair bit of it), or what an American would pay if they had a medical emergency, like the example he gives of the MI and two heart stents.

@Kendergurl

2 жыл бұрын

@@QE2Glasgow the cheapest insurance I could find over here.. $400/month. And still has a copay and doesnt cover everything

@jessicamarie6448

2 жыл бұрын

@@QE2Glasgow yes we know. When we say free we mean free at point of delivery

I'm an Aussie. During my pregnancy and birth of my son, including my 1 week stay in hospital, it cost me ZERO dollars. I had an epidural and a water birth was my original plan. After returning home from hospital, I had a nurse come to my home to do a check up....again, free because of our national health care system. America is no dream lol

I'm an EU citizen living in the UK. I happen to work in the NHS, which I love despite the terrible pay. I have 2 children. My first birth was very complicated and traumatic. I'm guessing it cost them loads just to keep me alive, let alone patching me up after it. I was in hospital for over a week, had to have surgery, was intubated, etc. Second birth, I chose to have a cesarean because emotionally and mentally I couldn't go through the same thing again. It was straight forward, some hemorrhage but as I had had a massive one with my first, they knew it could happen and were ready for it. I spent 3 days in. Easier recovery this time and my guess is that it cost roughly the same. I'm thankful I could chose and that I didn't have to be in debt to have my babies. I love working in the NHS. When I'm at work I give my all to my patients. That's how I want to be treated so I make sure my patients know I care and will do my best for them. That's what everyone deserves. A little bit more pay is needed but we are definitely not working in the NHS for the pay 🩵

I can’t ever wrap my head around the fact that life saving medication isn’t free in the US… like a diabetic person has to pay for insulin!! WHAT?

@lesliejohnson827

2 жыл бұрын

Well, people pay for pads too to deal with periods 🙄 (which are a necessity for everyone who has them)

@annabelledavis2389

2 жыл бұрын

@@lesliejohnson827 true, I believe they should be free too!! But it must be difficult since it isn’t a one size fits all solution and people have preferences that they probably wouldn’t cater to if they made them free, they’d just mass produce one size and shape of pad to make production as cheap as possible. Also I can see people (wrongly) arguing that you won’t necessarily die if you don’t wear pads or tampons etc. It should absolutely be free but there is defo obstacles, I mean governments being majority male is the first one 😂

@michaelsmith7425

2 жыл бұрын

@@lesliejohnson827 A bit of a flippant answer really :( Having a period is not a life threatening situation. My daughter not having her insulin, she would be dead within a few days. We pay thousands every year to keep her alive in the USA. In the UK the thyroxin that both my sister and father take to keep them alive is free. Just food for thought.

@5martgir14ever

2 жыл бұрын

A need ensures a higher payment than a want, especially if it means life or death.

@annabelledavis2389

2 жыл бұрын

@@michaelsmith7425 agreed, but neither are a choice and neither can really be cured so ideally they’d both be free. In the U.K. obviously insulin is free and some supermarkets have taken the tax off period products but we’re still working on making them free- it’s something that the U.K. is much more likely to implement than the US

this is very surreal

@xzonia1

2 жыл бұрын

I hope you're doing well and covid isn't being too awful for you.

@abbey4750

2 жыл бұрын

I cant believe I sat through this whole video thinking "who is this guy" to then find out he's YOUR BROTHER!?!?!?!

@SugarcatPlays

2 жыл бұрын

Evening oodles!

@octaviussludberry9016

2 жыл бұрын

Isn't it just?

@Gazmus

2 жыл бұрын

@@abbey4750 Dodie is American? With that accent? Not a chance

In England during the height of covid I needed double shoulder surgery they gave me an mri scan and 2 weeks later they gave me flawless surgery! On top of that they gave me 6 months of physiotherapy !! All medication was included ! Furthermore my dad needed a life saving heart surgery again during the height of covid! All of this cost £0 I love the nhs and everyone that works there, I always always buy an nhs worker a pint when I meet them! They are up there with our soldiers, thankyou boys and girls

I’m Canadian and had a blood clot in my lung a few years ago (in Canada). Went to the ER and was moved through quickly (because of my condition). They did tests (X-Ray, blood tests, etc.) to find out what it was. The second the blood showed signs of clotting, an ambulance took me to the hospital where I got a cat scan, got meds, and was monitored. $0. Now I get regular blood tests. Also $0. I was in the States at one point where I needed a blood test. It took me a month of phone calls to get a straight answer on how much it would cost me… $400 - not including what the lab would charge to do the actual test. Yeah… I’ll just wait to get home. Thanks…

My friend recently had a heart transplant here in Australia. It cost him nothing. And I’m totally thrilled my taxes helped towards it.

@canadiangirl826

2 жыл бұрын

You are so right! I don't think that people in the US get the idea of caring for your friends, family and fellow man. They also don't understand the freedom that comes from not having to worry about the cost of medical conditions/emergencies. My son was hospitalized 7 times with asthma before he was two years old. I never once had to think about the cost of treatment.

@runningwild.flowerxoxo6296

2 жыл бұрын

I had stemcell transplant in Germany, of course for free. I was told the coasts for all of it would be arround 250.000€. Can't even imagine how much it would be in the US..

@vinlondon8904

2 жыл бұрын

@@runningwild.flowerxoxo6296 stem cell transplant for what exactly, if you mind me asking pls?

@runningwild.flowerxoxo6296

2 жыл бұрын

@@vinlondon8904 of course not! :) I had a chronic disease called Neutropenia that stopped my immune system from fully developing. After an incident that brought me to the icu doctors said we can't take the risk for that to happen again, so we decided for chemo and SCT

@vinlondon8904

2 жыл бұрын

@@runningwild.flowerxoxo6296 thank you for letting me know.

It's insane to think that a simple treatment in the US could be the equivalent of a house downpayment in the UK...

@vivalianna

2 жыл бұрын

It's a house down-payment here, too. That's why so many people don't have homes, and avoid going to the doctor. We can't afford it.

@WarPoodle-pc5wu

2 жыл бұрын

This is why I haven't been to a DR in almost 3 years. Last time I went was because I broke all 4 of my small toes on one foot. So it couldn't be avoided.... im pretty sure I have some major health issues. I've had headaches at least 2times a week for years and I have major stomach issues regularly. But it doesn't seem like I'm going to die from it... pretty sure. So its not worth the cost. I can barely afford rent can't be worrying about my heath.

@selenastratsukino7695

2 жыл бұрын

How can people live like this?

@SH-vo5je

2 жыл бұрын

@@scotthullinger4684 Actually the base cost for services and medication is considerably different. Even in the UK which has the NHS, you still have to pay for medication and prescriptions in certain parts of the UK. If you look up the price of an epipen say, the base cost is considerably different (costs around £45 per pen or £90 for 2 OR £8.80 with NHS prescription charge) when in the US it is $650. Obviously, you have to take in the cost of living and wage difference however the US just has the price inflated for further profit margins not because of the actual cost of manufacturing.

@SH-vo5je

2 жыл бұрын

@@scotthullinger4684 Never did I say the NHS system could work in the US and would resolve problems, I didn't even highlight 'problems'. YOU brought up how it costs the same everywhere, which it does not and I simply expressed that and then YOU started spewing about capitalism and socialism. My initial comment was simply expressing how insane it is that a simple treatment in the US is the equivalent of a down payment in the UK. Nothing more, nothing less. It sounds as though you are trying to have a debate with yourself here and getting a little too carried away while you're at it.

I lived with an undiagnosed, untreated chronic illness that kept me from attending school consistently when I was in high school. I suffered for almost the entire school year (about 10 months) and only went to the doctor once the school told me my attendance was getting bad enough that I would have to repeat the year if I didn't fix it. My family and I were too worried that I had something seriously wrong with me healthwise and would rather live in blissful ignorance than have to add a ton of medications and doctor visits to our bills. Thankfully it wasn't that bad... It just ended up being one visit and some OTC drugs taken daily. A few years later, I was in college/university, away from my parents for the first extended period of time. I was having menstrual cramps so bad that I thought my appendix burst... every single month. Sometimes even when I wasn't menstruating. I remember one time where I got a sudden bout of cramps and I was knelt on the school library floor sobbing and cradling myself. It was agony. I've had shingles before and this was worse. I still didn't go to a doctor until many months later because my insurance wasn't taken at the closest doctor offices -- I had to go home from school and take some days off school and go to urgent care to figure it out. I still had to pay close to $100 after insurance coverage for two doctor visits and some more for the lab work. The USA just clearly prefers people suffer for free rather than get the health care they need. Especially since my family is lower middle class, we couldn't afford to go. It's easier and cheaper to just die.

@NWard1210

7 ай бұрын

@@scotthullinger4684this is backwards thinking and entirely self centred. You’re not paying for other people - you’re paying for you when your body starts going wrong. Screw America, third world pretending it’s a first world

I live in India and we just recently had a baby. it cost us totally around of 965 USD(77000 INR) for a 4 day stay in a private room of a very well equipped and modern hospital. this was including everything the doctors fees, medicine, babys bill etc. Most of it was reimbursed by our insurance as well .

I wash up in a pub and get £11 per hour…. Junior doctors are caring for us and saving lives, not washing pans and they get a£1.50 more Does not make sense. Rebecca xx

@cerysjones1947

2 жыл бұрын

Doctors should defo get paid way more, but £11/hr washing up in a pub?? That's very good money lmao, trying to get a part-time pub job at the min and struggling to find jobs that are more than minimum wage (which for me at 20 years old is £6.56/hr)

@zoelundy5561

2 жыл бұрын

I work in a pub for £6.60 an hour. You’re deffo making good money in your pub

@pjschmid2251

2 жыл бұрын

@@zoelundy5561 what is the minimum wage in the UK that seems kind of low like US minimum wage low.

@SleepyBoyoxo

2 жыл бұрын

I work for the NHS in a blood sciences lab running urgent and routine blood tests and I only make £9.20 an hour 😅

@Lo33y_

2 жыл бұрын

@@zoelundy5561 Yeah, thats illegal. Unless you are under 18 you need to be payed more.

I live in Australia, we have Medicare. Similar to NHS. Years back I had an ectopic pregnancy. Was admitted as an emergency - had blood tests, 2 types of ultrasound, x-rays, surgery, a tube removed then had to stay 4 nights in hospital. When I left there was no bill. All covered by Medicare. That's what a good health system looks like. NHS is great also. America is broken.

@josefinigo7100

2 жыл бұрын

N. America is PURE HELL for everyone.

@caitlynlawrence8502

2 жыл бұрын

So but how often do ppl sue drs in Australia? How much do drs have to pay for malpractice insurance? Here in America most drs have to get astronomical malpractice insurance. Anesthesiologists have it the worst. Those costs have to get factored in as well.

@zapkvr

2 жыл бұрын

@@caitlynlawrence8502 Obstetricians in the public system here in Australia are covered. It's only obstetric services in the private sector which have to be insured. There are no obstetricians in the private hospitals any longer.

@caitlynlawrence8502

2 жыл бұрын

@@zapkvr so only pain management is covered for birth? Anesthesiologists do more here in the states than just labor epidurals. Here anything to do with getting injected pain meds are quite expensive. My sister had to pay for years for just the epidural portion of her labor. One of my old acquaintances was an Anesthesiologist and they had to have their own malpractice insurance not covered by the hospital that was just an insane amount. He had to have like at least 10 mil on coverage so his monthly payment for the insurance was super high.

@alexanderstefanov6474

2 жыл бұрын

@@josefinigo7100 the USA, Canada and Mexico have social medicine

I'm from the Netherlands. My partner had to have open hart surgery a couple years back. He had two open heart surgeries (1st one didn't fix it, so they had to go in a second time). Each surgery was followed by 2 days in intensive care and about 5 days in general care. For the surgeries, hospital care and all the drugs, I think the hospital declared about 15,000 euro to his insurance. For the insurance he only had to pay his "own risk" portion, which at the time was 385 euro. If we lived in the US, we would have been bankrupt.

@zuzanazuscinova5209

Жыл бұрын

How? If you had insurance you would only have to pay out of pocket max. Having insurance is not unheard of.

😂 I cut my finger in France (I’m Dutch). Went to the hospital. Doc had to check my tendon for damage, had to call in another doctor. We spent about two hours there in a private room. The only thing I paid was the over the counter meds afterwards (€50) and I could charge most of that to my insurance when I got home. French medical service was excellent.

My cousin died of a heart attack at 36. His last words were I’m fine. I can’t afford an ambulance.

@beastvader

2 жыл бұрын

That's so sad... May he rest in peace

@OptimusPrimordial

2 жыл бұрын

That hurts to hear. I'm so sorry.

@valentinabivol7585

2 жыл бұрын

😯😯😯😥😥😥

@mommyingBetchay

2 жыл бұрын

😭😭

@thesensenetcollective5378

2 жыл бұрын

I'm so sorry! I had a friend who thought he might be having a heart attack and when I called 911 asking for an ambulance they actually asked me again how serious it was bc if I could drive him myself i could save the cost of the ambulance which they said was a lot. Then another friend who was in the hospital, they gave them a pain medication drip where they could press a button for more pain relief but the nurse warned him that every click of the button is like $100 so make sure you need it. Omg us health care sucks

Every Brit who moans about the NHS should be made to watch this.

@sagnhill

2 жыл бұрын

There are states in the USA that take peoples homes and put them in jail if they cant pay their medical bills. Last year I had to put 9000 dollars on my credit card to pay for two root canals and a crown. Im still trying to pay it off. I hate living in the USA as I get older.

@pieflower6419

2 жыл бұрын

it's severely underfunded and understaffed, but I much prefer it to the USA.

@LadyCheshire95

2 жыл бұрын

@@pieflower6419 it is underfunded and understaffed but its our NHS its a beautiful place to go when you need help. No one panics and think oh dear can they afford that ambulance. No one is thinking about a bill while in the most vulnerable moment of their life. My husbands picking you up in that ambulance and all he's thinking is how do I save, treat and/or help this person.

@avon8794

2 жыл бұрын

@@sagnhill That price is insane. I live in Norway, for some reason dental is not considered part of our public healthcare(though still free for children) so it's all private. A normal checkup would cost about 100$, I'd guess two root canals and a crown would cost somewhere between 300-500$.

@sagnhill

2 жыл бұрын

@@avon8794 One x-ray cost me 400 dollars.

So glad we have the NHS here. Makes you realise how lucky we really are, & we shouldn’t take it for granted

I live in America but am an Englishman, my wife had to have blood tests which as she is a nurse at the hospital she gets for free, but the insurance company sent her a rundown of the bill for records snd it would have cost her $3,650. My mother in law was prescribed new medication for her heart and they wanted $1,000 every month for that one medication. It's a bloody rip off.

This is very good because the doctor is stating how much the procedure actually costs the hospital, so you can see the vast profiteering that goes on in US hospitals.

@pixiniarts

2 жыл бұрын

But it's not just profiteering, it's extravagant rampant wide-scale theft, and insurance fraud, deception, corporate fraud, bank fraud, tax fraud, consumer fraud, trade descriptions violations and service description violations and a whole pile of other things. Literally, if you as a civilian were to try to pull this shit, you'd be facing both criminal and civil proceedings. But they are rich and protected and the American justice system is fucked, it will jail a poor person for jumping a turn style but let a President off for defrauding a charity for millions, and you can get a full life sentence cuffed in the back of a police car because your buddy gets shot by the police running away.

@themoviedealers

2 жыл бұрын

Which is why you refuse to pay them. You won't face civil proceedings, there are too many people that can't afford to pay. The hospital can't afford lawyers to sue everyone. It's much cheaper for them to accept a tiny settlement or just write it off.

@andromedaspark2241

2 жыл бұрын

@@themoviedealers That ruins credit. When your credit is bad, it's hard to even rent apartments. Employers check credit and don't prefer to hire people with low scores. Bad credit leads to expensive loans, and in most places people must have a car to live (public transport is bad). If you have a big debt they just go to the court and garnish your wages. I work with several people who just have money taken directly from their paycheck before they even see it because of debt garnishment. Bankruptcy would be the only way to stop that but that still has all of the limitations from bad credit.

@andromedaspark2241

2 жыл бұрын

@The Unknown I'm sorry about that. It's a worry for people in less urban areas. Mediocre, expensive hospitals. I just happened to end up needing 3 surgeries this year for Ulcerative Colitis, and to live within an hour of a top hospital for that (Cleveland Clinic). Been roomed up with several people getting previous surgeries fixed done by mediocre but still extortionately expensive hospitals. To afford hospitals you have to either be impoverished and on Medicaid or have corporate insurance. I daren't lose my job or the bills would bankrupt me. Imagine that, but with a bad hospital? It's truly awful. If they mess you up they shouldn't get paid.

@justincenter4061

2 жыл бұрын

@@themoviedealers A friend of mine's wife had a baby a few years back. There were lots of complications and it ended up costing well over a million dollars. He set up a "payment plan" and is "paying it off" $5 a month.

If you want to watch 20 minutes of Evan slowly getting more and more depressed about US Healthcare boy is this the video for you xD

@evan

2 жыл бұрын

:(

@imhalida

2 жыл бұрын

I'm not an American and I got depressed not even halfway through the video 😅

@bloodfaythe13

2 жыл бұрын

Imagine how depressed us Americans are... And how much it costs to treat that depression

@JasperCasper24

2 жыл бұрын

@@bloodfaythe13 Oh yeah I pity you guys greatly

@AludraEltaninAltair

2 жыл бұрын

@@bloodfaythe13 and mental healthcare isn't always covered by insurance, so whatever that treatment cost is very possibly all out of pocket.

I have 100% avoided go to hospital in the States because even with health insurance the cost would drive me to bankruptcy. My first year in Canada I kept living that way...and then I had an issue, was absolutely freaking out...and I realized I didn't have to risk complications or worse, I could just go get checked. It truly is life changing, both in scary moments like above and when paying the tax bill too! In the States there's this sense that you've just helped cover a murder drone somewhere, in Canada you know you're helping build up society.

Every US politician, healthcare executive, pharmaceutical executive and anyone else opposed to universal healthcare should have to watch this and then defend their position. I have two relatives through marriage who are MD's in the NHS - they are specialists who could practice anywhere but choose to stay in with NHS. Thank you for posting this Evan.

OK but as a resident of the UK can I just say that a JUNIOR DOCTOR earning £12 an hour is outrageous. Your doctor should be able to afford the average price of a Nando's for FUCK'S sake.

@lordomacron3719

2 жыл бұрын

you want to pay more tax to fund that? I would happily do so but that is what would be needed the money has to come from somewhere for pay rises. If the overall NHS budget does not change and you increass pay you have less money for everything else. yet raisng taxes to fund such things dont win votes so it does not happen

@LynxChan

2 жыл бұрын

@@lordomacron3719 I personally would pay for it by making companies like Amazon actually pay taxes, but if you're asking "If literally the only way to pay NHS workers more would be a tax increase on you, would you still be in favour?" the answer is yes.

@lordomacron3719

2 жыл бұрын

@@LynxChan good i wish more would think that way. One point thought the Likes of Amazon DO pay their Taxes perfectly legally that is not the fualt of the companies that is the fault of those who wrote the tax laws that can be exploited in such ways. in the debate about big compaines and tax all i hear is how the company are the ones who should face critisisim and not the politicians who make the tax laws in the first place. they are both responsable

@LynxChan

2 жыл бұрын

@@lordomacron3719absolutely agree, it's our governments that must be held to account for the loopholes and back doors they install for the benefit of large companies to exploit. Companies will do everything they legally can to keep and grow their money, that is their entire purpose, it's government that has to ensure they pay their fair share, and it's our job to hold politicians who don't to account.

@dpalmerama

2 жыл бұрын

@@lordomacron3719 Not necessarily, a wage increase usually ends up paying for itself. This is because they will have extra money that they can spend on things they want and funnel it back into the economy. When people are struggling they only spend when they have to. "How do we pay for it?" is a redundant question. Especially when the government has spaffed 36 billion pounds on track and trace, spent 12 million on their new conference stage, and Boris spent £900,000 painting a bloody plane! Not to mention the government spends approximately £8000 a minute on nuclear weapons and keeping Trident going.

Americans get hostile (I’m American, I know) when they see a system that they think is communistic, ignoring the fact that it’s not really about whether or not you pay for medical treatments in the UK-it’s about how grossly overcharged everything is in America. That’s the stark difference. That’s the main issue.

@user-ui6vq9sn1u

2 жыл бұрын

Totally agree. Reminds me of when I was taking a sociology class in college where we briefly covered collectivism and individualism. Since weekly online discussions were encouraged, I started a post on how western societies (typically considered individualistic) were not completely devoid of collectivism. I gave a few examples like fraternities/sororities(since we were on a college campus), but the responses I got were pretty...interesting. Ppl would say collectivism = communism = bad, and US is not like communist countries, so my examples don’t count and such. I made no statement that collectivism is bad, or mention any relationship to communism at all, and yet some ppl reacted so overly defensive! It’s crazy how you can’t even have a civil discussion about anything that can be remotely associated with communism, it’s ridiculous. I know that isn’t everyone, but these ppl tend to be obnoxiously loud.

@TheMrakic

2 жыл бұрын

thats how capitalist portrait communism to masses, to demonize it. or any other socialistic aproach

@PatriciaKelly-gz7vg

2 жыл бұрын

A lot of Americans believe that EVERYTHING is superior in America and become angry if you hint at imperfection.

@JWildberry

2 жыл бұрын

That's what decades of propaganda does to a country.

@nur_aryani

2 жыл бұрын

Watching this…I’m thankful for the “expensive” medical/healthcare in my country. We have a national insurance and a “medical account” called Medisave that we contribute from our salary. Giving birth in a govt hospital costs between $4000 to $1000 depending on the ward class and we end up paying between $800 to $3000 in cash, with the rest paid from insurance and Medisave. I had a major surgery for colon cancer and a 13 days hospital stay in a Govt hospital and a subsidised ward. Total bill? ~ $48k After subsidies ~ $11k All paid for from my insurance and Medisave. I opted out of chemo ~ that would have cost me $800 per cycle in cash. Each review with carcinogenic test costs $80. Each CT Scan cost $800 plus (we can use up to $600 from our Medisave per year for CT/Pet/MRI scans). My double scoping procedure costs $1500 each time (as a day surgery, I can claim under insurance and Medisave).

As an American in the midwest, I still pay a lot for my healthcare, but my last trip to the ER in an ambulance (including x-ray and stitches) was about $3,500 without insurance. The numbers I hear about what must be the rest of the country are even shocking to me!

@Nangijala-rr2bd

11 ай бұрын

I am a german, when i had my baby delivered, it was a emergency ride to labour room, and a 6 day stay with sectio caeserea. Because here, our bill is limited to 10 euro a day for 28 days a year max, i payed 60 Euros. And because i dont earn enough money to make the thresh hold, i got it completly waived to 0,00 If i would look up the behind scenes cost for this, it would probably be around 6.000 euro.. all included ambulance sectio and stay as well as drugs, nursing help and everything

@uzuhl2

9 ай бұрын

i went to the ER because of gallbladder pain had a few blood tests done, an EKG and finally taken back to an exam room and spoke to a doctor. About 6 1/2 hours later and i have $15,000 in medical bills that won't be covered because I hadn't paid my $4,700 deductible yet and my out of pocket maximum is $8,700. I have to have the removal surgery tomorrow so that's going to add even more debt

@newtonwhatevs

9 ай бұрын

You do realise an ambulance is just a small van with underpaid, glorified drivers, right? Including petrol, depreciation, staff, it probably cost under $300.

The USA has a really weird system. Private insurance in other countries is much cheaper. German private insurers will pay for your flight home if you get sick in the USA because of the insane hospital bills.

The NHS staff saved mine and my unborn baby's life in January. I had covid and ended up in ICU. I was at deaths door and may had never met my little boy. Thank you NHS. You are my guardian angels xxx

@ShammaAzmi

2 жыл бұрын

I hope you and your baby are ok. I'm due this June and I'm terrified even though this is my second child.

@chloeforde9714

2 жыл бұрын

@@ShammaAzmi bless you. My one regret is I wish I'd listened to my instincts, I was working up until 8 months pregnant in a GP practice so still had contact with people. This was also before the vaccination programme progressed to pregnant people. So it was even more risky. This was my second too. Just do what feels right, and look after yourself as much as possible x

@chloeforde9714

2 жыл бұрын

@@ShammaAzmi also, my little boy is great, he turns one next week 💙 thank you x

@anonymoushuman8962

2 жыл бұрын

Congratulations! I hope all is well for you!

@sanatani2725

Жыл бұрын

Hope you are good and healthy now. And congratulations for your baby boy Stay safe stay healthy

The health care system in the US is actually disgusting. It's funny hearing the differences but when you consider what someone can owe for a medical emergency they have no control over it's so depressing.

@wombatpandaa9774

2 жыл бұрын

There are occasional news stories about people refusing ambulances after car crashes because they know they can't pay. It's really messed up, to be perfectly honest, and it's one of the biggest reasons I hope to leave this country in a few years.

@nahuelma97

2 жыл бұрын

I mean, not even a car accident, where there's someone to blame maybe because they ran a red light or something. You just fall at home or something equally unpredictable and not anyone's fault and that's it, that's your year's salary, if you're lucky, down the drain. It's crazy

@wombatpandaa9774

2 жыл бұрын

@@nahuelma97 too true. I specifically highlighted the car accident thing because I remember reading a news story about it, but I know it also happens in many other circumstances. Either way it's messed up

@manub.3847

2 жыл бұрын

The thought occurs to me that maybe many US citizens who are afraid of the costs or have no insurance did not even go to the hospital during this pandemic and may have died (undetected) of the virus.

@nahuelma97

2 жыл бұрын

@@manub.3847 I think the undetected part may not be as feasible as one would initially think, since there would have to be an autopsy, which would reveal the cause of death to be COVID-19, but people being afraid to go to the doctor, yeah, that's pretty messed up

I remember being with my friend in labor (in the USA) and wanted an epidural. We had to call her insurance to make sure epidural is covered. No way she would be able to afford it otherwise. -insurance covered it. She was so relieved.

I'm so glad and thankful for our NHS! They saved my life on at least 3 occasions( 3 brain aneurysm operations with stand's including a burst one with massive bleed) plus 2 kidney transplants and dialysis treatment for 3 years inbetween. And 10 different and very expensive medicines I have to take daily for the rest of my life. Cost to me £ 0.00 I don't dare imagine what that would have cost me in USA. Thanks to NHS I'm able to see my 11 year old son grow up. And that is PRICELESS!!! ❤️ NHS ❤️

I grew up in the US but now I live in NZ and what Evan said about not going to the doctor unless you’re in a dire emergency because of fearing the cost is something that is hardwired into me despite the fact that NZ healthcare is free or extremely low cost

@jeanjones718

2 жыл бұрын

Yep--lucky us...... dental care for adults is another question, unfortunately.

@rachelcookie321

Жыл бұрын

Free? Healthcare isn’t usually free In New Zealand. It’s only free if you’re in an accident, if you’re sick then you have to pay for it yourself. My mum had to get a few surgeries a couple years ago and luckily it was all covered by our insurance otherwise we would of had to pay like $20,000. It’s cheaper than America but still tons of money.

@seblorkhan2618

Жыл бұрын

@@rachelcookie321 ive had two seizures, broken bones, suicide attempt and a brest reduction surgery every single thing was free, the only thing i paid for was the prescriptions and ambulance for my seizures which cost 90 each from st johns.

@jonathanodude6660

Жыл бұрын

@@rachelcookie321 assuming NZ is like aus, you likely went to a private hospital that was in partnership with your private insurance. if you went to a government hospital, it would have been free.

@Katawesome

Жыл бұрын

@@rachelcookie321 ? My brother got really sick and we didn’t pay a cent. My friends have also had many surgeries and haven’t paid anything. Did you go private ??

I can’t thank the NHS enough. For free, they saved my life as a child from meningococcal septicaemia. They’ve given my child life through a difficult and complex pregnancy and birth. They saved her fathers leg from being amputated with a cage and pins through his leg & rods and screws keeping his spine together. We are so blessed 🙏🏻

@davidevans3223

2 жыл бұрын

Nothing's free you work year's of your life to pay for just the NHS in tax when you add it up

@someonerandom8552

2 жыл бұрын

@@davidevans3223 Yeah but it’s still substantially less than the US. The US pays more in healthcare than pretty much the entire developed world and on top of that they pay around 250% more for routine medicine compared to the rest of the developed world. This as well as your taxes each year. So the US actually has to pay for insurance, pay for medical treatment, pay their taxes and then pay through the nose for medicine (if required.) Compared to all of that being covered by everyone’s tax dollars in pretty much the rest of the developed word. I’d rather pay my taxes and not go bankrupt for visiting the doctor, thank you very much.

@olivervandebeer7492

2 жыл бұрын

I'm for NHS in America. However, no private health insurance will pay for an ambulance ride if you are drunk..even dead drunk..You will have to pay maybe 2500 pounds and 1000 pounds for the ER room. If you are falling down drunk and pass out chances are nobody will call an ambulance..American's are very careful when they use the health system. In some cities like the one I live in, you have to pay for a fire truck that you have called for...

@jonathanodude6660

Жыл бұрын

@@davidevans3223 better than it not happening because you cant afford it or being in debt where they can repossess your assets.

@anthonyarcher6808

Жыл бұрын

@@davidevans3223 This is a stupid comment and I doubt you understand why.

I'm so impressed that he knows the costs of all those items.

As someone who married an American and is planning on moving there from the U.K, this TERRIFIES me! I can’t imagine having to pay so much for general health care! I have American friends that tell me the price of their monthly contraception and I think it is disgraceful!

@MayaBishopStan

2 жыл бұрын

Why not stay in the UK? It's far better

@Agohlmador

2 жыл бұрын

@@MayaBishopStan In terms of health care and worker's rights, yes it is. The US charges you nearly a million dollars for curing the venom of a snake bite and denies you any access to preventative care without insurance, which costs ridiculous amounts of money to have. However, the uk made it illegal to have any object on you for self defense and outlawed basic self defense items like pepper spray and stun guns. You can get charged jail time for using pepper spray on an attacker or keeping something to defend yourself on your person. Pros and cons, my friend.

@MayaBishopStan

2 жыл бұрын

I'd rather live in the UK then, I'm not a fan of weapons@@Agohlmador

@jalicea1650

2 жыл бұрын

Depends on the state you move to. Contraceptives will soon be illegal in 23 states as it's unchristian for you as a woman to have such medication. Also be prepared to this inalienable fact you are worthless; you are to be abused and treated like a product. If you disagree then God hates you. If you demand more rights or speak of healthcare in any socialist terms you can be insulted or worse... Welcome to America! Land of Jesus and Capitalism.

@jlov3420

2 жыл бұрын

Wait until u see the dental cost

Being charged for skin to skin contact with something I created within that skin is just adding a slap to a compromised crotch, salt on the wound ,etc etc

@DomingoDeSantaClara

2 жыл бұрын

Salt in the wound? That'll be 75 bucks!

@Charlakin

2 жыл бұрын

@@DomingoDeSantaClara A saline bag for that salt? That'll be $700!

@rusticpartyeditz

2 жыл бұрын

And I saw somewhere else here on youtube that women in the USA are automatically put on a drip while in labour. The whole health service in the USA is about giving you as many medical prodecures as they can charge for, whether or not you really need it. And apparently end of life care in the USA is just a money racket.

@marialindell9874

2 жыл бұрын

@@rusticpartyeditz I mean I guess the drip is good to have ready incase of having to get drugs in quick. Just saying as USA has a _wonderfull_ rate in deaths during childbirth. Edit: Apparently people don't read sarcasm. I'm using heavy sarcasm at the statement of childbirth death rates of women and babies. The reason why I even mentioned it is because women in my country don't go to the hospital fearing of dying while in labour. 😂

@rusticpartyeditz

2 жыл бұрын

@@marialindell9874 Maternal death rate US 14 per 100k. UK 8 per 100k. Child death rate US 6 per 1000, uk 4 per 1000. Whatever the US is doing, it isn't good.

On this episode of “Is it cheaper to do it- oh wait it’s free regardless...”

@speleokeir

2 жыл бұрын

The NHS isn NOT free, it's free at source. i.e. you don't have to pay at the hospital or your GP. However everyone who works pays National Insurance which pays for the NHS and social security benefits, government pension, etc. It's taken directly from your salary but is only a small easily affordable percentage of your wage and is taken off before tax.

@ygiuzebbe

2 жыл бұрын

@@speleokeir yeah obviously lmao, when people say NHS is free they mean free at point of service, and it is "cheaper" since instead of paying let's say 2000 dollars in one month on medical bills, you pay 2000 dollars on a whole year, which is less of a burden on the individual (the numbers are only examples)

@LabradorIndependent

2 жыл бұрын

Not to mention, even if the NHS *wasn't* free at the point of use, the costs to the system are reasonable. It's the prices of US healthcare that are astonishing. Do Americans think this is just how much those services are supposed to cost?

@junhansguitar1036

2 жыл бұрын

@@LabradorIndependent as an american…yeah i thought that was about what it’s supposed to cost until i started consuming content from other countries.

@brunna7995

2 жыл бұрын

@@ygiuzebbe it’s not cheaper. A healthcare plan in the US is about $100 for a single individual, whilst in the UK most people pay more than that to the NHS

I remember when I had to go to the hospital for a burst appendix and after I came to my mum was there and I was still a little bit out of it. So I asked how much was it going to cost, and she looked at me and said it’s free with a weird look on her face. Man, it just made me appreciate the NHS more.

I'm a Swede, and I "had to" get an AKG. Called at 8 in the morning, got an oppointment at 11. Went there, the nurde did the EKG, then a doctor had a little chat and a general check-up, did some blood tests and then I went home. Total cost for me? 10 bucks.

Genuinely, I wish the US had a similar health care system to the UK. We'd still complain, but we'd complain less & have a physically healthier population overall. It shouldn't cost a small fortune just to keep yourself alive if you're physically healthy, but have small complications, or have a kid.

@jarls5890

2 жыл бұрын

...and not having to ever worry about the economic side of falling ill.

@Scsigs

2 жыл бұрын

@@jarls5890 Yep. My brother's fiance had their son in January & _required_ a C-Section. I'd rather them not to have to pay for that shit.

@khwezik3894

2 жыл бұрын

Wasn't that Obama Care a sort of NHS, that got contested from conception and then completely removed when the next president took power?

@Scsigs

2 жыл бұрын

@@khwezik3894 No. Obamacare/the ACA was a health care bill that opened up a lot of people to getting health care that couldn't before. It limited how health care companies could drop people with pre-existing conditions & whatever else. It apparently had a universal option if you couldn't afford an insurance company...that was removed before it passed because they wanted to get more Republican support on it. The Trump Administration removed the individual mandate, which I think is for the better because it forced people who couldn't afford insurance to pay a fine, which isn't something people SHOULD be doing, with no benefits to them. Unfortunately, the mandate also removes protecting people with pre-existing conditions from getting dropped from the insurers, bit that's why I think the shit should just be redone anyways.

@CraftyWitch1990

2 жыл бұрын

For sure. No human should ever have to choose not to stay alive because if they got help they would be crippled with debt for the rest of their lives. I'm very grateful to live in the UK and be able to get the help I need when I need it

There was this thing years ago, someone explained a hip replacement cost in the US was $41,000 at the time and it was explained that you could fly and move to spain, live there for 2 years, have two hip replacement surgeries and fly back to the US for less. US medical is not for the people, its a business built for profit.

@kivzzzz

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly! It's totally a business.

In Sweden we pay 16.40 usd for an ambulance. 10.93 usd to see a doctor, nurse or psychologist. 32.80 usd to see a specialist or ER. 10.93 per day to stay in a hospital. 32.80 for childbirth (including anesthesia and c-section if needed). The cost can vary depending on where in the country we live, but the difference isn't much. So we can have, for example, a heart or brain surgery for 32.80 usd + 10.93 usd a day. If you've already had to visit a doctor a lot in a year, and your total cost for these appointments goes up to 131.19 usd, you will pay zero. Let's say you had some kind of problem and you needed to visit your doctor a few times, maybe a specialist and maybe did an xray and the cost got to 131.19 in just 3 months, you will not pay for further healthcare for 9 months in the same 12 month period. The cost for medications will get reduced or almost free if you had to buy up to a cost of 262,37 usd, and it works pretty much like the example above. Not all medications are included, but most. Insulin is 100% free.

I'm so mad how broken our ridiculous healthcare is. Throw the entire system out, and create a new system from the ground up based on the UK, Canada, NZ, and Australia.

@DJordydj

8 ай бұрын

I love you in Spain and the cost is ZERO even you use NHS.

my mother was walking around with a burst appendix for a week and she didn’t go until she absolutely had to. i’m sure so many americans have died from this

@downhomesunset

2 жыл бұрын

And they wait until it's much worse than going as soon as you have symptoms. Cancer probably gets a couple stages higher bc people don't want to pay.

@beckyreeves6283

2 жыл бұрын

@@downhomesunset its not even that they don't want to pay. Its that the just can't.

@cmmndrblu

2 жыл бұрын

diabetics have died in the US from not being able to afford a medication which is affordable in civilised nations

@alisonsmith4801

2 жыл бұрын

@@cmmndrblu I'm a diabetic here in the UK and all my medications are free, it truly heartless that in the US you are held accountable to either your job, parents or how much you have in your bank account to survive any or all life changing health issues. A truly Dog eat Dog society.

@MsBrendalina

2 жыл бұрын

I considered driving myself to the hospital when I was in NO CONDITION to drive because I didn't want to pay for an ambulance. I eventually called an ambulance because I didn't want to crash and kill someone. The ride and ER visit cost me $2,000 (and that was only because I didn't need any major procedures)

Capitalism: "Companies that compete with each other will lead to more effective healthcare and cheaper prices for the consumer." NHS: "Here, hold my bag of saline."

@evan

2 жыл бұрын

hahaha

@frostyblade8842

2 жыл бұрын

This is true though, on paper at least. The problem with American healthcare is its badly propped up by insurance companies and the government so the prices get jacked up. If they didn't rely so much on insurance and just had people pay a reasonable price per consultation I.e €50 like we have here, plus a bit extra for special procedures line x-rays, there would be significantly less problems

@katie6384

2 жыл бұрын

@@frostyblade8842 to be honest, it's partly true, partly not. The companies which survive are not always the ones offering the best consumer experience - they are the ones who make the most profit. Offering the best customer experience / best price is one method, but cutting your costs (even in immoral ways) or monopolising are also popular methods

@winnywin

2 жыл бұрын

@@frostyblade8842 The NHS has massive bargaining power when it comes to drug companies. It negotiates on behalf of 60M patients. If a pharmaceutical company is being greedy - the NHS just says NO! Most drug companies blink first - and reduce their price. The multitude of US insurance companies have no such bargaining - and just pass the cost to the patient. Capitalism at its finest.

@calvindominic9196

2 жыл бұрын

Only until they wipe out smaller or individual health establishments and they get monopoly . American healthcare is actually forefather of ubers to nyc taxis 😁

German here, we have a private healthcare system besides the public one. Was privately insured for about 8 years being self-employed. My monthly fee was 450€ with a co-pay of 1000€ max per year. If I had bills below that threshold within a year, I paid them out of pocket and got two monthly fees back in return, so effectively my co-pay was 100€.PER YEAR. Now the interesting part: You get the bill from your doctors sent to your home, this way you see how much a treatment does really cost. Example: I had a little 'knob' (felt like a pebble about 5mm under the skin) right beneath my chin that could be removed through ambulant surgery by a specialist. The first visit, the ambulant surgery (three stitches) and the lab test of the tissue (just to make sure it was not harmful) added up to 240€. After this video I am sure in the US the bill would easily be 10k or higher.

@zuzanazuscinova5209

Жыл бұрын

Nah. A couple hundred, even without insurance. I had a mole removed for cosmetic reasons by a plastic surgeon in NJ (not covered by insurance for obvious reasons). It cost about 300.

I had natural birth on the NHS. I had my own delivery room with mood lighting, DVD player, music, water bath (for the birth or just to relax in)... It was awesome.

This is why (in America) I (a paramedic) try to save my patients as much money as possible. I absolutely hate how I work really hard to save a patient's life only to have them drown in medical bills.

@ambbergrantham5686

4 күн бұрын

Thanks for all you do ❤ I'm sure it makes a huge difference to the people that you help

This is something that I didn’t know I wanted but apparently you knew I did

@evan

2 жыл бұрын

I never knew a lot of this stuff Iain said so I found it super interesting! :)

@gocrazygostupid394

2 жыл бұрын

Margaret Thatcher

The amount of people in the UK that will go to Doctor or A&E unnecessarily is unbelievable. I remember one occasion that I popped in to A&E to ask about nearest walk-in centre and staff said just come in here - I was seen pretty quickly - I think partially because I was asking about non-A&E. I would have been happy to go to walk-in. Thank you to NHS and their Docs & Nurses

@SECRETORDEROFTHEKNIGHTSTEMPLAR

Жыл бұрын

I know I had a seizure and fell down the stairs and busted my face open and I was put in a room with another 3 people and one was there for a sore toe?? SMH

My mom was on a respirator for 3 weeks and almost 5 weeks in total in the hospital. She had CT scan, blood test weekly, they had to take a sample from her lung, they did use some kind of camera thing to see what's wrong with it as well, they were measuring her oxygen levels daily as well. It cost almost 100 dollars.

I grew up desperately wanting to be American ... I believed that everything was superior there .. Then i travelled and my eyes were opened . America is a great country but sadly i don't think it looks after its people well. That shocked me ...

@freya7084

2 жыл бұрын

Same!!!!!

@phathuevos697

2 жыл бұрын

Yep I am American can't afford Healthcare if I get sick I better die or be in debt forever makes me want to emigrate honestly

@shortybecs

2 жыл бұрын

Same! Health, education, prison system etc. Should not be businesses. It’s crazy

@zapkvr

2 жыл бұрын

It's getting worse. The income stratification in the US is the worst in the developed world.

@zapkvr

2 жыл бұрын

@@phathuevos697 why don't you vote M4A?

Had an illuminating chat with a taxi driver when I was in England in 2019. The issue of privatizing healthcare was hot and he wanted to know what two Americans thought. I broke down just how much my work provided healthcare cost me per month plus the deductible plus the surprise bill plus the lack of control in keeping any part of your healthcare service ‘in network’ plus your tied to your job or loss your healthcare making it harder to move job. Just dear god, if you have nationalized healthcare, hold onto it for dear life. I mean, right now I’m in the middle of a fight between my insurance company and the largest healthcare provider in the state, both writing me letters asking me to tell the other company to play ball with them like we’re in fucking elementary school. It’s ridiculous and potentially catastrophic to life and finances. Why would you willingly trade what you have for this?

@zapkvr

2 жыл бұрын

@@Colourmad314 *companies*

@NaatClark

2 жыл бұрын

@@Colourmad314 We have legal bribery of our politicians here in the land of the free so the odds of actual people changing anything at this point are slim to none

@lilbaz8073

11 ай бұрын

You also pay more in taxes towards healthcare than people in the uk. 25% compared to 22.8%. Because you still pay medicare for old people. At astronomical prices.

@ghyslainabel

10 ай бұрын

@@lilbaz8073 a friend of mine in Canada went to work in the United States for a year. He did not tell me his tax rate, but let say it was 40% in Canada; those taxes include health care. For the same salary in the United States, his taxes were 20% and his medical insurance was 20%. That means he paid the same in both countries... except that in the United States there are also deductible, copay, out-of-network fees. While the tax rate is lower in the United States, the overall cost is higher there.

@lilbaz8073

10 ай бұрын

@@ghyslainabel think you may have misundertood the point i was making. Of all taxes collected by the fed in america (corporation tax, income tax etc...). 25% are spent on helthcare. While it is 22.8% of all taxes paid to the government in the uk. Yet the uk is mostly free, while americans still have to pay insurance, deductables etc... It is a con.

I sat in A&E for well over 4 hours. I was later told I was lucky to be alive. So yes it’s frustrating to be waiting for people who don’t need to be there. Ended up in hospital for 10 weeks, multiple ops and CT scans. So thankful for the NHS goodness knows what that would have cost, I’m guessing some 100s of thousands if not more.

my 2 lads have both had double transplants, many many hours of other surgeries, weeks in intensive care and months in hospital and thanks to the NHS it cost us nothing!! we can't thank ALL the medical staff enough 💙

@zuzanazuscinova5209

Жыл бұрын

It cost you through your taxes. What are you talking about?

@joeyp7431

Жыл бұрын

@@zuzanazuscinova5209 yes and I gladly pay them as the millions amd millions my kids medical care cost were covered!!!

@boka5290

9 ай бұрын

​@@zuzanazuscinova5209right...because paying taxes is worse than having your kids die. Sure

The most amazing thing about the NHS, above and beyond everything they do for us, is the fact they do it with a smile despite being criminally overworked and underpaid!

@davidevans3223

2 жыл бұрын

You work a few year's of your life to pay for the NHS out of tax you can work another full year and give them every penny and it will still be underfunded

@clarab6245

2 жыл бұрын

@@davidevans3223 agree, staff are often underpaid and not happy about it. I have seen the NHS change so much. Peoples lifestyles have brought its needs type 2 diabetes is the biggest cost to the NHS. Diet and exercise people.

@packersfanforlife7903

Жыл бұрын

Yet Sports stars get paid millions for doing very little really

@Kitsune1989

Жыл бұрын

Still treated better then EMT here. They made the work contract in such a way that if you aren't actually responding to a call then you're 'on call' ( as off you were sitting about at home hoping to pick up extra hours despite being on a scheduled 8 hr shift). Those 'on call' wages? $2/hr...then they have the nerve to bitch about the lack of paramedics (keeping in mind you have to work your way up to paramedic) massive wait times, and burnout. I'm sorry but if someone expected me to work even their 'actively responding pay' (15/hr btw) with massive student debt, long often 12-16hr shifts despite the fact they aren't supposed to be allowed to do that, then add in ppl treating you like shit drunks addicts idiots treating you like a taxi and ptsd due to having to make split second decisions with minimal information and occasionally outright wrong information...I'd go tell them to get fucked too. Hell, a damn gas station cashier makes more without the student debt. A bus driver makes 4x more then a paramedic here... To me, that's disgusting. An athlete lives like a king but medical staff make barely enough to cover their student debt never mind costs of living. These are the people we should be paying the highest not the crappiest.

@HarryFlashmanVC

Жыл бұрын

I work in the NHS and this is a myth. SOME NHS workers are underpaid - Paramedics, criminally so and also there are a LOT of minimum wage admin staff, usually middle aged women, who often run whole departments who are criminally underpaid. Doctors and Nurses are NOT UNDERPAID, in fact, they are paid very well indeed. Doctors in particular are now the highest paid profession in the country. Nurses start low, like most professions, but Staff Nurses (sisters) can see packages of £40-50k, Matron level - up to £80k. Senior nursing management, in excess of £100k. When looking at healthcare salaries you have to understand that the publicly listed data is far removed from actual take-home. Most will work a 35 hour week and will pick up an additional shift paid on locum rates or bank and this can be 3-4 times higher than their permanent hourly rate. At time of writing, November 2022 a standard Band 5 Ward nurse in London working Agency shifts is paid £36.5 per hour. I can cite examples of theatre nurses working for Insourcing Companies (which run whole NHS Departments) who are on £900 per day plus. Last year when Doctors were demanding yet more money, the NHS responded by doing a deal with Tesla which would allow them to write off the cost of a Tesla against tax, this is why so many doctors are driving around in Tesla sports cars - paid for by you and me BTW.... underpaid! my hairy caledonian ring piece!

I have heard from a couple of people whose close friends in the states (I’m Canadian) that they chose NOT to be treated for cancer even though there was a pretty high cure rate, due to the extreme cost. I think the for profit system in the US is tragic.

@Januaryschild

2 жыл бұрын

The scary part is you have no idea what the treatment will cost when you start it. Last year, I had to go to the hospital for blood clots in my lungs. Once they told me what I had, I had no choice but to have it treated then or there was a high possibility that I would throw another clot and die. When I was admitted, I couldn’t say what my end total would be. Luckily, I have pretty good health insurance, so I felt it was something I could handle. I ended up paying $2,000 out of pocket. I shudder to think what may have happened to me if I didn’t have insurance, since my presenting symptoms didn’t seem that bad to me. Maybe I would just blow them off for fear of getting a $50,000 bill.

@emilybach

2 жыл бұрын

The cost, I believe, would go down significantly if hospitals were forced to be honest about how much each treatment costs. If someone is able to shop around for the best price then that forces the hospitals to compete, which would lower the price. I don't mind paying for my medical bills, but I can't stand calling around only to be told how they don't know how much having a baby at their hospital will cost, and can't give me even a range of prices. Same with urgent care clinics and most doctors offices.

@justdefacts

2 жыл бұрын

That's why the US is the only developed country that had a decreasing life expectancy even before Covid.

@geoffreyharris5931

2 жыл бұрын

@@justdefacts Well there is also the obesity and drug abuse, diabetes, smoking, alcoholism etc.

@aacmove

2 жыл бұрын

And yet 300 million people accept it as inevitable!

In Germany the insurance pays around 600 € for cardiac catheterisation and stent implantation regardless of the number of stents or the procedure‘s length if an outpatient doctor performs the procedure. If you do it in a clinic as a stationary patient it costs around 2000 € excluding all fees for the bed and nursery etc. Governmental regulation of prices can be a good thing especially in healthcare.

I was born in England but grew up in Canada. My parents always thought it was weird that people went for regular check ups when they weren’t sick

"I hate the smell when it's not santized properly" Remember that people when you complain that hospital stink of disinfectant and/or bleach it could smell of something a WHOLE lot worse

@xymonau2468

2 жыл бұрын

And it also indicates that patients are being neglected if the smell is more than passing.

@coolworms7297

2 жыл бұрын

Am I the only one who actually likes the bleach alcohol smells?

@louisemcdonald8613

2 жыл бұрын

@@xymonau2468 yes you can tell alot about the level of patient care by how a ward looks/smells.

@louisemcdonald8613

2 жыл бұрын

@@coolworms7297 no your not the only one 😁

@vcwood1203

2 жыл бұрын

The thought of that... can u imagine previous health care...or lack of

Last year, I ended up in the ER following a suicide attempt. I was under observation for 12hrs to ensure my heart didn’t go into distress and start arresting. I was given IV saline and IV antiemetics to help flush my system, as well as blood tests, and an EKG. After I was discharged, I received my ER bill less than a week later. Even with insurance, it cost me 6x what I make in a month. After getting that bill, I almost wished I had succeeded, because the financial price was (at that time of my life) worse than paying with my life. There’s something severely wrong with the American healthcare system if I’d rather successfully end my life, than get emergency intervention and live to face the bill.

@andij605

2 жыл бұрын

Take care. x

@NurseJamu

2 жыл бұрын

I hope you're okay now

@jlo6388

2 жыл бұрын

Mental health care is lacking everywhere.

@kat.ily111

2 жыл бұрын

I was monitored and admitted for 3 days. All free.

@dek123

2 жыл бұрын

@jenna5960 simple, move to the US.

I’m surprised the US doesn’t charge for the use of oxygen in their hospitals

Interesting discussion and very informative. Thank you. For those who, like me, don't have a ton of experience around hospitals or missed the second where they explained it, A&E is accident and emergency.

Honestly with those American prices, I'd skip straight to planning my funeral

@neutraltral8757

2 жыл бұрын

Sadly, those are pretty expensive as well. 😖 Fortunately (?), it's only "buy a decent used car" expensive, not "buy a decent small house in many markets" expensive...

@leahdavis9434

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah funerals are like $30k I think?

@adammcfall5133

2 жыл бұрын

Depending what funerals, it costs 4k to millions of dollars.

@shannonhensley2942

2 жыл бұрын

@@leahdavis9434 depends on the funeral. And how you decided to take care of the body. Burial can be anywhere from $20,000 to $50,000 and cremation is typically around $15,000. There are tons of fees and extras. It's so preditory that my sister bout me without my permission a glass necklace of my grandpa's ashes.

@ChenLiYong

2 жыл бұрын

Oh, and do you want live flowers with that? That will be an additional $100!

I recently gave birth in Finland and the total cost (yeah we do actually have to pay some ourselves) ended up at around 300€. This included everything, from our 2 night stay for me and my husband, to the emergency c-section etc. Super happy to be living in Europe whenever I need health care.

@nogoogleyounothavingmycred253

2 жыл бұрын

@@peternicol9355 No it isn't. The idea that the NHS is the best healthcare in the world is nonsense. Even if we ignore the disgusting dereliction of duty and the manipulation by the NHS currently, many European countries provide a much better service

@janak.1449

2 жыл бұрын

Congrats on the baby! I heard that the state gives you a box with baby stuff, is it true?

@alibali193

2 жыл бұрын

@@janak.1449 in Scotland you get a baby box with items that can double as a Moses basket.

@rendomstranger8698

2 жыл бұрын

@@peternicol9355 We don't travel to the UK for healthcare. That is why. Unless you're talking about healthcare in the private sector. That is pretty much the only thing the UK has going for it. And thanks to Brexit and the Tories being in power, it won't take long at all before private healthcare in the UK starts to reach US prices and the NHS covers less and less critical care. Ditch your exceptionalism. The UK isn't special.

@rendomstranger8698

2 жыл бұрын

​@@peternicol9355 Don't make me laugh. The UK is currently collapsing and Ireland has clearly demonstrated that England is doing worse in terms of vaccinations. And don't even get me started on that ridiculous "herd immunity" bullshit that greedy lying sacks of shit in leadership positions spouted at the start of the pandemic. It was nothing more than an excuse to make sure the rich kept making money while everyone around them were dropping like flies.

What amazed me about this is that I knew US medial bills were inflated somewhat, but the prices the UK doctor quoted seemed very. very low in comparison. I had assumed that an operation in a theatre with all those staff would cost more than it does.

@zuzanazuscinova5209

Жыл бұрын

The government has a monopoly and negotiates low prices.

an little understood part of the NHS is colective purchacing power, instead of putting out a "hey we will pay you X for one unit of Y medication" to lots of companies, socialised medicine is able to say "hi, we want to use Y type of medication for our whole country, can you give us a bulk discount?" the medication companies (and a lot of others in ppe etc) are able to give a lower overall price per unit because they have the stability that having a large contract brings

This was an excellent video. I’ve seen videos criticising US healthcare costs before but not one where UK costs are broken down to this level. As a Brit, I’m glad to fund the NHS in the way that we do but we definitely take it for granted. Thanks for producing a very informative video. Very interesting.

@myriri3687

2 жыл бұрын

We definitely do take it for granted. We allow or even encourage a lot of extremely unhealthy behaviour when said behaviour is a public burden. If you smoke you're not just causing problems for yourself but for all of society who must finance the inevitable treatment for the consequences of your behaviour.

@nogoogleyounothavingmycred253

2 жыл бұрын

Well it's doing almost fuck all for people now

@nogoogleyounothavingmycred253

2 жыл бұрын

@@pch2230 What a well-reasoned, well-thought out response. You fanatical cult members who treat the NHS like an untouchable God are insane. You know full well what I wrote is not absolute bollocks.

@maxdavis7722

2 жыл бұрын

@@nogoogleyounothavingmycred253 the irony here lol. We could say the same about your first comment how you said just as much as he did to back up your claim.

@TalesOfWar

2 жыл бұрын

The government play on the fact we take it for granted too, by slowly selling it all off and underfunding it without us making a stink about it. The fact they haven't increased the budget IN THE MIDDLE OF A PANDEMIC or to give its workers a reasonable pay rise says all you need to know about the Tory's.

I was really surprised to hear that he was only paid £12/hour... I knew wages on the NHS were low but this is ridiculous... you guys deserve to be paid so much more

@lorettacarr8620

2 жыл бұрын

It’s only because he is a trainee doctor. Believe me once fully qualified he will be earning biiiig bucks.

@papayasaf5134

2 жыл бұрын

whilst I'm sure that's true, doesn't it take like 8 years of being a junior doctor to become a consultant?

@ShozzleMeNoz

2 жыл бұрын

@@papayasaf5134 Yeah, but you don't stay at £12 in the meantime...

@lauraburgess2798

2 жыл бұрын

I was a student nurse in Scotland back in 2014/15 and we were paid £500 a month. We were doing 36 hours a week and official nursing jobs. I believe the grant is now £10,000 per annum.

@lj7169

2 жыл бұрын

Well let's remember that you can't give away free services to 50 million people and then pay all the people providing those services huge salaries..... the money has to come from somewhere.....

Just found your channel. This is really eye-opening! My husband is in medical in the US and we are thinking of moving in a few years. This is really great info. Thanks!

I loved the random "guck Mal mehr" translation at the end hahaha. Very informative stuff, thanks!

What drove me crazy when giving birth to my daughter, was that they charged me a room occupancy fee of 7k for myself, and an additional room occupancy fee of 5k for my newborn. We were in the same room the entire time! I was caring for her the entire time myself, outside of the standard newborn checks, which they also charged me for! Gtfo

@instinctivejudgement

2 жыл бұрын

Wtf! If you have insurance would it still cost as much? Like for here in Australia you have the choice to go public which is free or go private which you may have an out of pocket cost of maybe ranging from 200 to 1k maybe. And do most people in the US have private health? How do people pay for those exorbitant bills? That's just so fucked up

@juliacory6881

2 жыл бұрын

The answer is we don't :/ plenty of people can't afford healthcare at all. Lots of low income people just kinda live in debt... even with my mother's most expensive insurance plan through her work, her deductible is still so high she can never go to the doctor, so she's working on a broken (never fully healed) ankle but just works through the pain cuz bills don't pay themselves

@rebeccapopolo7405

2 жыл бұрын

@@instinctivejudgement Most people don’t. It gets put on your credit report and affects the rest of your life of being able to buy a home or anything like that it shows up as debt.

@wilson2455

2 жыл бұрын

I can't believe that 'skin on skin' charge for a new mother & her baby !!!

@boof-7599

2 жыл бұрын

they charged the baby lmaooooo, what a joke your healthcare is

I live in Spain and had an open ankle dislocation in which 65% of my ankle was open. I was ambulanced into emergency surgery, hospitalised and 2 years later still having check up MRIs. I paid ZERO. Only a small amount for medication prescriptions which probably totally came to 20 dollars if that. I am walking fine and everytime I look at the ever fading scar, I am so grateful for National Health

Pay our NHS staff properly!! Clapping does _not_ pay the bills ❤

Thank you for the knowledge 🙏

I had a baby at the start of the month and it wasn’t the smoothest and the thought of having to pay £££ on top of the trauma is terrifying. Also. The US charge you for skin-to-skin?!?! That’s horrific 💔 So thankful for the NHS we really don’t know how lucky we are until we compare to other countries.

@harrychristofi6725

2 жыл бұрын

I mean, you Brits take universal free healthcare for granted because you’ve had the NHS since 1946 while in America we still don’t have universal healthcare. Thankfully there’s a political movement here called Medicare for all so we eventually catch to the rest of the world.

@lukas97671

2 жыл бұрын

@@harrychristofi6725 well you would if the politicians who support it would get elected. Your F’ed up system means that Medicare for all probably won’t be a thing until you fix gerrymandered districts and finally elect a left leaning president rather than moderates like Biden

@amiscellaneoushuman3516

2 жыл бұрын

@@harrychristofi6725 minor correction: the NHS was founded it 1947 not 1946

@harrychristofi6725

2 жыл бұрын

@@amiscellaneoushuman3516 My bad. 1947 not 1946. Close enough 😂

@harrychristofi6725

2 жыл бұрын

@@lukas97671 Dude, we had a chance to elect a left leaning president in Bernie Sanders but unfortunately corruption chose Biden. Also gerrymandering needs to die but we can do Medicare for all even without banning gerrymandering. Also we have a few politicians who support Medicare for all in congress but they are too scared to challenge Nancy pelosi on it who is against it

"Are there any hidden fees though? At all?" I'm guessing Evan has never parked at a hospital during his time here? 😁

@oliverjohnston9410

2 жыл бұрын

it’s funny tho that we complain abt paying for parking when it could be a whole lot worse

@Strigulino

2 жыл бұрын

The thing is, the hospitals still have to pay to build the multi storey. Which costs a lot. And they need to find that money somewhere, and it shouldn’t come out of patient care. And at some of the hospitals I worked at, people used the hospital car park to go shopping as it was the cheapest car park in town. So the actual sick people and staff couldn’t park for people shopping. 😡

@andiematrix9082

2 жыл бұрын

Most hospital car parks are actually managed by private companies so that money doesn't even go to the NHS!

@Strigulino

2 жыл бұрын

@@andiematrix9082 Very often, yes. Because then the hospital doesn’t have to find millions to build a car park. Get someone else to take the initial cost and make the money back. It’s just a better way to use what little money they have.

@missbirdsmiles5387

2 жыл бұрын

Both of my local hospitals have free car parks in addition to paying ones.

my brother just moved to arizona when he ended up yellow and in pain. he had to stay at hospital filter his blood and have his appendix removed. this is the amazing thing. because he didn’t work yet and had no insurance. the hospital covered all costs. that was the only experience i had with something good regarding medical on american soil lol

@thomast3570

Жыл бұрын

I'm sure the Billing Department tried its best.

I'd be interested in seeing the cost of a cancer treatment in this style of comparison. I think the ABVD package I was administered was around 100.000 DKK per treatment, times 8. That's not counting the dental surgery, dental casts, and all the crazy stuff needed to get radiation therapy in the neck region, and the 3 years of follow ups to ensure it was gone

Australian here 🙋‍♀️ my son had an appendectomy last year, emergency surgery; including ambulance ride to the children's hospital about 40mins away. After we got home, he had acute pain so back to children's hospital ED in another ambulance, we were there about 8 hours, he just needed an adjustment to his pain meds. Cost me about $70 in parking at the hospital. That's it. I love Medicare and our public system. Edit: I forgot to mention diagnosing GP came to our home, at night and said my son probably had appendicitis, he organised the first ambulance. How much? $0.

I turned 60 last year. A couple of weeks after my birthday I got an NHS Bowel Cancer Screening test kit through the letterbox. I didn't ask for this care, and it was free.

@triarb5790

2 жыл бұрын

In Australia we get this from age 50. Women receive free breast cancer screening every two years from age 50 as well, and men receive free prostate checks from age 50. Also at age 50 your GP encourages a full workup blood sugar etc etc again, like in the UK, all free.

@celiamartins2680

2 жыл бұрын

We in Australia also get the kit And free breast screening for women over 50. My daughter 27 had a little lump on her breast had a needle biopsy ultrasound etc.. and bill = $0 God bless Australia. My question is if you're poor what happens to you if you get sick and can't afford to pay hospital bill , do they still treat you ?

@eattherich9215

2 жыл бұрын

When I turned 50, I was called for a general health screening run by the GP's practice nurse. I also availed myself of the 60+ bowel cancer programme.

@purplegigi

2 жыл бұрын

And that's how my dad's cancer was found this year. Esp grateful as if bowel cancer is found when you're symptomatic, it's in an advanced stage. Also grateful that NHS does this

@catprog

2 жыл бұрын

It s cheaper for them to do cheap testing of everyone and then cheap treatment earlier then expensive treatment later.

I broke my ankle a couple of months ago. I was seen immediately on arrival, x-rayed (twice) and plastered up. Over the next two weeks I went back about three times to check on a fracture blister and to check swelling for surgery. I had the plaster changed once. I then had a metal plate and 8 screws put in and, of course, a new plaster cast. My stay for surgery was overnight, and for that I was in a private room (I think I just got lucky there). Two weeks later I was given a black boot to replace the cast and four weeks after that I was back for another x-ray. In total I've had four casts and five or six x-rays. This was all on the NHS. The staff have been universally wonderful, and my treatment has been faultless. I can't imagine how much my bill would have been in the US and not having surgery wouldn't have been an option. I'm so grateful we have the NHS and those few right-wing Americans who like to point out that we pay higher taxes (actually not much higher) should know that there is almost no one in the UK who resents paying for the NHS with their taxes. Because we all pay towards it, we can all afford to have treatment.