"Copied sir thanks" That was her ATC equivalent of "k".

@Dr_Monitor

5 жыл бұрын

Malicious kindness. Effectively she told the pilot to stick his dick in one of the plane's engines.

@coryt490

5 жыл бұрын

@@Dr_Monitor the pitot tube would probably be a more proper size

@subtlename2873

5 жыл бұрын

Cory Therriault lmao

@thomasholland2384

4 жыл бұрын

Imagine the Irish begging for independence then realise how dependent they are on others and give their independence away to the EU 😂😂😂

@jettydoom

4 жыл бұрын

@@CD.91 History says yes they did invade you ,more than twice . Good luck selling that butter and ale to europe

The woman in the ATC has the perfect voice for this job, crystal clear yet also fast and professional.

@dankrgaming5698

3 жыл бұрын

Just thinking that after watching an hour of ATC! XD

@oliviaardy8226

3 жыл бұрын

sounds like maeve wiley

@AramiMedia

3 жыл бұрын

Olivia Ardy But she has a British accent, this ATCer is Irish.

@RABIDJOCK

3 жыл бұрын

@@AramiMedia she has an Irish accent, its is very soft however.

@adam.r3351

3 жыл бұрын

(@Josh23761) So true, I am half Irish/British and visit my Irish family quite a lot, I can say that the "fast" bit of what you said is true. But, that is just because she is Irish; Trust. 😂😂🇬🇧/🇨🇮

I absolutely LOVE how all the other pilots, immediately on hearing Captain Tool's idiocy, became super-polite and complimentary and passive-aggressive. Great stuff.

@skystalker7700

4 жыл бұрын

That's kinda how it works. Mutual respect. Even if she messed up (I don't believe she did) you just deal with it. Like an adult. Go file the safety report if you wish.

@barbarafranzo4375

3 жыл бұрын

LOL.. it must be a psychological thing, they all suddenly became patient and cooperative as well as pro ATC

3 жыл бұрын

Very unprofessional, actually. Tying up an already very busy frequency with irrelevant and inappropriate comments - they should all be reprimanded as should the BA pilot for engaging in an argument that should have been dealt with later. So many ignorant, arm-chair-know-it-alls on KZread comments........

@stevennolan6156

3 жыл бұрын

@ I'm guessing you're British then🤷

@damstr1105

3 жыл бұрын

We call that simping

That girl is sharp as a razor. Great to hear the other pilots backing her up. The B A pilot is a clown.

@asedky

4 жыл бұрын

actually he is not only a clown but also typically prejudiced. this pilot's attitude defines the historic relation between the english and the irish. in general english believe they are superior. having said so, the irish atc acted in a typical distinguished, eloquent and professional way.

@YortOK

4 жыл бұрын

Well actually they are superior. It's only the Irish that would argue against that.

@bb3ca201

4 жыл бұрын

Or a tool, as one pilot called him 😆

@JamesJames-bf5uy

4 жыл бұрын

MariaA Dv Survivor well said.

@michaelgrace1298

4 жыл бұрын

@@asedky are you on drugs

That "OH MY GOD" from the Air Lingus pilot got me 💀

@sweetpjeb23

5 жыл бұрын

That was the best part honestly.

@elliot7753

4 жыл бұрын

Tyler Killion yup

@andrewj7585

4 жыл бұрын

And then the "Tool!" right afterwards haha.

@Rastrprahari

4 жыл бұрын

It was, "Owh Moi Gawd" in British accent. Lul

@droneshotsantoine1805

4 жыл бұрын

It's Aer Lingus ;)

She was very professional. She even said thanks when he said he was filing a safety report.

@DDG2023

8 жыл бұрын

+Jeremy Smith Nope, not to contain. She had previously advised that no further freq would be devoted to that convo, so the acknowledgment was a courteous shut down "...moving on and Fuck you very much" so to speak. :)

@Mr.M1STER

8 жыл бұрын

Deirdre McNamara She did try to contact him but he wasn't replying or responding. What else can she do? Run out and knock on the cockpit window and tell the pilot?

@DeirdreMcNamara

8 жыл бұрын

That was ex post facto, bennydman

@DDG2023

8 жыл бұрын

Just as an aside, as a thought-experiment, if you will: Assuming the ATC response was what people seem to think it should have been, ie. "Oh My God, I'm so sorry. That was a terrible mistake. Please give me another chance and please don't make my life difficult or potentially get me fired. Puhleeeease!" Is there ANY aviator out there, whatever Nationality, whatever Gender, who would then be comfortable taking any further instruction from that whiney, unsure, error-prone controller, begging for forgiveness? Just curious. (* I know I stepped into a US/THEM, National Pride whatever debate here, but I have no skin in the game, so it's mostly just amusing from my side)

@DDG2023

8 жыл бұрын

D. Mark Detrixhe Ha, thanks. That's what I was hoping to hear! Even a bad pushback has further checks and balances to prevent disaster, which the pilot actually demonstrates happened by saying they were busy with the ground guys. And all said and done, it WAS a uniquely stressful time-frame for various reasons. Surely any competent aviator in the queue is going to be aware of this and compensate accordingly? If not, they perhaps need to find another job. I think most of the replies here are some weird "us versus them" point-scoring tango, that I don't understand as a foreigner. Thanks for the reply :)

If this Brit pilot had pulled that stunt at JFK, ATL, or LAX he would still be waiting in line for take-off.

@thatflywelshguy9662

5 жыл бұрын

condemned to the penalty boxes

@mfree80286

4 жыл бұрын

@@thatflywelshguy9662 Doin' laps...

@Alehpyro

4 жыл бұрын

I'd love to see how that conversation would have gone if Kennedy Steve were in the tower....

@phillee2814

4 жыл бұрын

At all of those they have ramp controllers, so it wouldn't happen.

@bb3ca201

4 жыл бұрын

@@stephenhusak6098 I heard he retired :(

As a 40 year ATC, my hats off to that controller for her professionalism and keeping her cool.

@philmontejano5971

4 жыл бұрын

I remember there was a controller at SFO , bay area and he would crack jokes. Example, Aztec 47P traffic 11 o clock, Northwest bound, probably John McEnroe in a 152 Hilarious

@yammmit

4 жыл бұрын

Phil Montejano That’s why ‘Kennedy Steve’ was so great when he worked at JFK.

@philmontejano5971

4 жыл бұрын

@@yammmit thanks for realizing that , unlike novices

@tiarnan76

4 жыл бұрын

As someone whos played over 2.5 years on flight simulator I concur with you - hopefully if the shit hits the fan in my virtual flight fantasy world she'll be ther..............ahh who am I kidding - I'm fed up with living in my Grannys basement.

@terraholdingco

3 жыл бұрын

@@philmontejano5971 Theres a controller in Concord North Carolina (KJQF) who will sing you your clearance and instructions, he's awesome! Love going in and out of that place just for that!

I love that the other pilots, understanding the business (and dealing with it also) kept complimenting the controller on frequency. Captain Jerk knew he stood alone in his assessment and complaints.

@edwardashton7502

5 жыл бұрын

considering that she told him much later than GC had and the fact an Air Lingus plane was behind him he had no where to go, sounds like a bit of preferential treatment to Irish Airlines, bit like the Spanish do frequently.

@FlyboyOvi

5 жыл бұрын

Captain jerk lol it’s almost 2am here and I’m lmao. As a pilot myself I appreciate a competent atc. Very stressful at time.

@kerol5905

5 жыл бұрын

@@edwardashton7502 She was contacting him to notify him, but his line was out of reach (pilot was talking to other crew) and it was apparently somebody else's job to tell him So it was his fault and was in no position to file complaint and get angry to the ATC.

@brentfoto

5 жыл бұрын

'dERELICT' STFU.

@Lesloi6227

4 жыл бұрын

I agree completely. Captain Jerk would know without a shadow of a doubt that all the other pilots have had the same earful. He would also know the person he complains to will also listen to this recording.... I love how the others all complemented the ATC. Good stuff folks

one pilot said 'Tool', that sums up my thoughts on the matter perfectly.

@trintygamesandrobloxandmor128

5 жыл бұрын

Dean Ford but a tool is actually useful unlike this idiot. By calling him a tool you give all the tools in the world a bad name. 😂🤣

@poryg5350

5 жыл бұрын

@@trintygamesandrobloxandmor128 Actually, "tool" is a pretty old one in English. Tools in past were plain and crude. It's still used in situations where you can't afford to call the other idiot, because you have to maintain professionalism.

@mobarakabdullahh

5 жыл бұрын

I dont understand what he means english is my second language

@sweetpjeb23

5 жыл бұрын

Mobarak Alajmi calling someone a tool is like calling them a jerk or an asshole.

@immsr.5580

5 жыл бұрын

Trintygamesandrobloxandmore Tool is a euphemism for dick.

The pilot who said "Tool" is never going to have to buy beer for the rest of his life!

@mellietink

5 жыл бұрын

Most likely not; but so many times a thing not intended is said on air....

@BobGnarley.

4 жыл бұрын

Yes because he will crash soon

@DreamFreeFPV

4 жыл бұрын

This is WAY less professional than the BA pilot. 1) He totally SHOULD put in a safety report. 2) you should never denigrate someone for putting in a safety report 3) It's polite to notify someone that you're putting one in, so the counterpart knows to put one in, so they don't get in trouble for NOT putting one in... This guy was just doing his job. the DICKHEAD was the ATR not listening out.

@fbi7267

4 жыл бұрын

@@DreamFreeFPV you must be a brit.

@junkonakamura3441

4 жыл бұрын

@@DreamFreeFPV I believe u are a British. But, I'm sure most British who watch this video won't agree with u though.

The Irish guys backing up their girl with passive aggressive chirps like “shoulda pushed out quicker” and “TOOL” while complimenting her and letting the BA pilot know that he can die on his hill. Solid gold.

@mamavswild

3 жыл бұрын

Unprofessional, biased...something I’m starting to pick up on with Irish pilots/airlines. Cheers from the US

@stijnvandamme76

3 жыл бұрын

@@mamavswild one could say full of it.

@putinski666

3 жыл бұрын

@@mamavswild Go hug some more Limeys you'll feel better

@martf8014

2 жыл бұрын

Pretty unprofessional from all involved

@padraigsisk4057

2 жыл бұрын

@@martf8014 why?.

I love her dismissive, yet professional replies. I especially love how the other pilots supports her.

@coolbrounderscore

4 жыл бұрын

yamisoaegyeo Pretty sure she gave an improper pushback clearance though

@yamisoaegyeo

4 жыл бұрын

@@coolbrounderscore I wouldn't really know since I'm not an ATC🤷‍♀️

@user-de4cq6uk6l

3 жыл бұрын

coolbrounderscore not really. The pilot didn’t get her calls about it so it’s not really anyone’s fault but he still didn’t need to act all confrontational.

@mikefawdrey6113

3 жыл бұрын

No pilot should tie up radio time however much they think about it, it is dangerous whether in the air or on the ground and unprofessional

@kwlkid85

2 жыл бұрын

@@user-de4cq6uk6l There's no sign that she made the calls she mentioned, they're not in the recording. She may have just said that to cover her arse.

The “doing a great job thanks” from the two aircraft after the complaint just put the nail in the coffin.

@kanelupis

3 жыл бұрын

@ It's like hockey. The rules are the rules, but when one player is playing mean you've got to bring in the enforcers and start a fight. Mean players stay mean for as long as they can get away with it.

@jamesryan82

Жыл бұрын

They should have kept their nose out of it. They were only exacerbating a minor disagreement. Focus on their own aircraft. Clowns. "Good girl" - would ya ever fcuk off

Not sure why you’d get into a fight with the person controlling the flow of traffic. If you throw them off their game, they might make a mistake! Better to pep them up than put them down.

@DreamFreeFPV

4 жыл бұрын

I don't see it as a fight, he's just commenting on why it occured and trying to regain SA when clearly there was lots of blocked coms.

@magentaMegi

4 жыл бұрын

@@DreamFreeFPV even hogging the frequency on a busy day?

@magentaMegi

4 жыл бұрын

@@DreamFreeFPV these tense situations occur maybe more than we think. Now new technologies might be helpful in future, especially now.

3 жыл бұрын

@@magentaMegi THAT'S the main problem here. The BA pilot and the other pilots tying up a very busy ATC frequency.

@magentaMegi

3 жыл бұрын

@ I am used to transcribing such exchanges but it takes a while to understand the context, when none is given. But on replaying this conversation, with many other planes, I didn't get the idea that the BA pilot said he would report a safety report. He never stated he would file a report againt the ATC, but at that time, my general understanding was that she had a very heavy workload that day. We also don't know WHY there was an busy day, whether this ATCo was overloaded because it was the start or end of her shift.

Something tells me he never filed that safety report

@Sh9168

4 жыл бұрын

If he did, I'd like to see the result of it.

@h.l.phillips3175

4 жыл бұрын

Lol!!!! His ego alone would could t for half load fully boarded!!! F.W V rude. ATC do a super stressful job. He got outback in his box! Fair play to other pilots. She was doing her job at full capacity n I'm sure all going fine until EGO stuck his "little" oar in. Great job by ATC! Keeping it all cool...👍👍👍👍👍 v impressed. I know what job entails as friend in this n its STRESSFUL. Only certain ppl actually can do this work. V v specific criteria n many either lose their place mid training or drop out. Nerves if steel &a very SHARP brain to name just two requirements..... .

@karlosbricks2413

4 жыл бұрын

It's a safety issue, had he followed her instructions there would have been a collision. Of course he would file the safety report. It's common courtesy to inform other parties you are going to file one, so they can too, as you WILL be reprimanded for not filing one if, like here, there was a real possibility of traffic conflict, and someone else has.

@toanotherplace

4 жыл бұрын

@@karlosbricks2413 She told Aer Lingus to give way to the Speedbird for push back but Aer Lingus decided to keep going and ended up in the way. It would not have been her fault if there was a collision. Not to mention, ground crew does the pushback and they are obviously not going to steer a parked aircraft backwards into another aircraft behind it. They are on the ground, they can see both aircraft.

@toanotherplace

4 жыл бұрын

@@karlosbricks2413 That's fine but you made it sound like she would have been at fault and I'm sick of it because, yes, fault IS relevant and it would not have been hers. Go watch a drunk Harrison Ford land on a taxiway and get out of here with "fault is irrelevant"

I honestly have no idea whats happening.

@Takhar7

7 жыл бұрын

basically, a bunch of planes were on the ground, and the british airways pilot was upset that his plane wasn't given right of way off the runway to be taxi'd back. The ATC was busy and was basically cuing a bunch of planes to get back to being taxi'd and cued the BA flight, which pissed him off

@eggbertsmith

7 жыл бұрын

You have no idea what's happening? Thats ok. But we applaud your honesty at not being a very perceptive person. Other people, might hide that fact. But you, are the sort of person who, inexplicably....calls attention to their shortcomings. Way to go! "A" for honesty.. ..."F" for intellect.

@Insidious589

7 жыл бұрын

Thanks Marcy. I mean it might just be the fact that I'm not an air traffic controller. Is the average person supposed to know all these call signs?

@alphadelta2954

7 жыл бұрын

He wasn't upset that he wasn't given right of way, he was annoyed that he wasn't informed of the change in plans due to miscommunication between him and the controller. They both should have handled it better.

@TowGunner

7 жыл бұрын

I don't know if she actually told the tool or not but she handled it quite professionally. If it was Kennedy Steve, he would have told him to blow it out his ass.

It's amazing to me how they keep all their information straight: they hear it, repeat it exactly. Everything is said so quickly and only once. I'd have a difficult time keeping all that straight!

@Cody38Super

7 жыл бұрын

Actually, it's not quite as hard as most people think, because Control and the Cockpit already know what the other is going to advise 90% of the time, and the "lingo" that you are having to take a long time to try and translate in your head, is the language they speak. To you, when you hear the word Lima.......you get a picture in your mind that looks like....LIMA........but it's not.....it's "L"...and that's all. Foxtrot....just a plain old F. Usually the only real things you need to remember are the changes, but not the predictable courses and headings control will put on. But the reason why it's such an abbreviated lingo, is for the rapid transfer of potentially larger and more immediate transfer of information....ie.....emergencies.

@mikemac2888

7 жыл бұрын

Easier to understand i you had her view. She is smooth and calm in all of this.

@Cody38Super

7 жыл бұрын

Mike Mac And that's a very BIG deal that the real pro's know how to do. If you have any stress, panic, desperation, confusion, or just plain fright in your voice......you're gonna rattle the crew, then they start to raise their panic level, which makes the tower do the same, and so on, and so on, and before you know it.......everyone is to fucked up to properly do their job............ergo......passenger jet screws itself into the ground like a lawn dart!.

@mikemac2888

7 жыл бұрын

Cody38Super I get it. Worked race control for bikes and cars (race track). Keep calm and focused. Granted I was only working in two dimensions, but relied on the radio net to picture what was going on. Some tracks so big, a repeater was used to keep in communication with all stations. Kudos to anyone that has a headset on and maintains calm like this.

@Cody38Super

7 жыл бұрын

Mike Mac precisely sir! a very large kudos! it must be terribly hard to keep a straight face when you know people are headed for to their peril.

That's 1 of the reasons why you have a pilot & a co-pilot ~ So that 1 of them can communicate with Ground Control while the other can keep their ears open for any additional communications from the Air Traffic Control Tower... ~ Captain Tool needed an attitude adjustment!!

@carmenburton4918

5 жыл бұрын

Agreed.

@philmontejano5971

4 жыл бұрын

Or in case of them is an idiot or is drunk, like the Delta pilot who got kicked off his fully boarded flight. No worries, he can claim he has a "disease " and return to work probably

@JR-th7wq

4 жыл бұрын

Or a personality transplant?

@harveysmith100

4 жыл бұрын

Oh so that's what that knob is for.

I pray this happens at JFK so I can listen to a controller verbally castrate a pilot over frequency.

@IAmAnonymyz

5 жыл бұрын

Kennedy Steve would have had a FIELD DAY

@jetfrostgaming

5 жыл бұрын

@@IAmAnonymyz Yes he would!

@drummaguyhixy

5 жыл бұрын

Kennedy Steve would most likely choke this tool through the airwaves. I love his banter towards tug drivers haha

@MrNikolidas

5 жыл бұрын

@@drummaguyhixy DT: "Kennedy Ground, Delta Tug 1" KS: "dElTa tUg WuN kEnNeDy GrOunD"

@6teezkid

5 жыл бұрын

Jet Frost Gaming - Imagine if that did happen at JFK and Kennedy Steve was on GND. Lol!

i have never been more confused in my life

@paddymuppy

8 жыл бұрын

Are you American?

@PeacemanNOT

8 жыл бұрын

Basically Irish pilots were laughing at a British Pilots mistake. He then took offence to it and decided that he should report the ground control for not telling him what to do, when they were trying to tell him but he got distracted and never heard their call.

@lzdsn5534

8 жыл бұрын

+PeacemanNOT lololol

@alanjackson526

8 жыл бұрын

+PeacemanNOT I didn't hear a mistake by the BA pilot.... The only people who should be praised are the vigilant ground crew who didn't commence push black of the BA plane which would have resulted in a Collision with the air lingus plane. I see it as the controller's mistake....you only give clearance to punch back if the area is clear an will remain so. Obviously other factors may come into players I. E lack of staff and a busy period. There was no attempt to contact the BA pilot that I could here on that frequency. If fact it sounded like the BA crew tried to speak with ATC but it was interrupted by ATC transmission.

@PeacemanNOT

8 жыл бұрын

alan jackson Sorry mate... you're just butthurt Ireland is better. Better football fans... part of the EU... friendlier, even when we have the stereotype of being angry drunkards.

This job seems like hell on earth. I got stressed out listening to 3 MINUTES of it. These people have some skills to be able to handle this all day long

@paulwilk69

3 жыл бұрын

My thoughts exactly.

@melodyschleicher81

3 жыл бұрын

I once had the privilege of watching air controllers live, and this was some years ago. Even then I marveled at their ability to juggle aircraft. Those folks retired at 55 because the job was extremely stressful and demanding. I don't know if that is still the case today.

@declan-kayodekeegan1598

3 жыл бұрын

It is one of the top most stressful jobs in the world!!!

@rockyfalldownstairs

3 жыл бұрын

They only work shifts of 3 hours if i remember correctly. At least in the US.

@desres2281

3 жыл бұрын

Nightmare job! They should be very well paid! 🙈🙈

1:49 “..and I’m just too busy to continue any further conversation about this on frequency!” ATC Lady handled herself very well with the cranky British pilot. Loved the other pilot comments, “Tool!”

@nickargent252

3 жыл бұрын

@ Get a life man.

@mamavswild

3 жыл бұрын

Yes because it’s so professional.

@Jorn41

2 жыл бұрын

Perhaps she shouldn't have kept arguing - she took plenty of time for that!!

@pxrisxiv

2 жыл бұрын

@@Jorn41 she wasn't arguing and instead trying to get clearance or something along those lines so she could take off, either you're slow or a troll. go touch grass.

Had a long career on the operations side. One time I was riding brakes in the cockpit of a DC-10 under tow to remote parking. Approaching the taxiway I noticed a line of 5 Southwest Airlines planes approaching. Queried the tower if I should hold short. Answer: "Negative, I want you to pull right out in front of them". Our tow rate was no better than 5 knots for one mile. I can only assume Southwest had pissed off the ground controller and he sent a message. LOL.

@MarzipanCat.

4 жыл бұрын

JUST IN CASE YOU EVER THINK OF QUESTIONING WHOS IN CHARGE HERE. HAVE FUN WAITING FOR THAT SLOW AF PLANE THATS GONNA PULL OUT RIIIIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU

@elkhunter8664

4 жыл бұрын

@@MarzipanCat. Weird thing is, not a peep out of the crews stuck behind us.I was just a pawn in a larger game. LOL.

@rogerwilco2

4 жыл бұрын

@@elkhunter8664 lol.

@briant7265

4 жыл бұрын

@@elkhunter8664 Not much point in saying anything after a checkmate from the tower.

The speed and complexity of this information exchange is a testament to the amazing adaptability of the human brain, and the extraordinary skill of this traffic controller.

@mardmard

5 жыл бұрын

"Amazing adaptability of the human brain" xD

@theboerk1

5 жыл бұрын

True, but you get used to it fairly quickly.

@sharathsh9987

5 жыл бұрын

It's more practice than skill, really.

@isitwasit8756

5 жыл бұрын

Agreed ... by the time the air traffic controler has finished her command I've already forgotten what she said at beginning of message ..

@davidb6535

5 жыл бұрын

@@isitwasit8756 Simply bc you're not trained and used to it.

Kudos to that one pilot who called him a tool.

@cathyboyde2838

5 жыл бұрын

@@baldknober124 Is that you, Speedbird 81?

@Athaeus

4 жыл бұрын

That was the Aer Lingus pilot who was the one that was at fault. Of course he's going to insult the person calling him out on his actions.

@jesspavlichenko5745

2 жыл бұрын

@@Athaeus The BA pilot specifically tried to waive the culpability of Aer Lingus by saying "oh so it's his fault then?" Sarcastically, implying that it was her fault. The guy called him a tool because it was his fault, but the pilot was getting mad at the ATC

@antheiheiant

2 жыл бұрын

@@Athaeus I think he very much knew that he was very much aware that he was at fault, but called him a tool because he was rude to the ATC lady, who did nothing wrong.

"I'll file a safety report.."" dude!!! You'd be reporting yourself! LOL…

@karlosbricks2413

4 жыл бұрын

how exactly? the frequency seemed to be all blocked to me, and I couldn't hear any of the warnings he apparently missed, any timestamp you can give me?

@Juhujalp

4 жыл бұрын

@@karlosbricks2413 It was not the pilots fault. Another bird should've let him out first, but they failed to comply with atc instructions. It is neither the fault of the butthurt pilot nor the fault of the controller.

@paulh.9526

4 жыл бұрын

Could that be why ATC said "Thanks"?

@dalethelander3781

4 жыл бұрын

I'm taking that "I'm filing a safety report" as similar to someone in a Facebook group announcing that they're disgusted with the group and leaving it. Bye, Felicia.

@Athaeus

4 жыл бұрын

@@dalethelander3781 No. Air traffic safety is actually taken seriously. Filing a safety report for something like this is actually the right thing to do, and notifying the ATC of it is a courtesy. It sounds like it was the Aer Lingus that went out of order, causing a hazard, and the ATC warnings about it to the British Airways pilots weren't heard because the frequency was overloaded. Those are all things that would need to be addressed for the sake of passenger safety. Safety reports aren't there to blame someone, they're there to minimise the risk of accidents in aviation.

Do BA pilots have a problem with being told what to do by Irish women?

@ToolforOffice

4 жыл бұрын

Besides the fact that there is a long history of the British thinking they are better than everyone else, multiply that by 10 fold for the way they treat the Irish

@tomrogers6510

4 жыл бұрын

ToolforOffice thanks for labelling all of the british as the same.

@ToolforOffice

4 жыл бұрын

Tom Rogers don’t be self righteous. You guys do the same thing with the US. It doesn’t need to be pointed out that the people I’m referring to are the ones who deserve it.

@tomrogers6510

4 жыл бұрын

ToolforOffice I’m not being self righteous. I just don’t like being labelled something I’m not. Don’t you feel the same?

@ToolforOffice

4 жыл бұрын

Tom Rogers not at all. I couldn’t care less what anyone labels me. I know who I am.

"Good Girl" Fair play to her very professional and took no BS! Great vid lad.

@DublinAviation

8 жыл бұрын

Thanks! The pilots reactions though are gold

@d.markdetrixhe3367

8 жыл бұрын

+Dublin Aviation Yes, I agree. Some are upset with "pilot banter" but I tried to say it eases tension. Taxi at PHX one afternoon with maybe 15 planes in line for takeoff. no id: "Delta 123 come up fingers". no reply no id: "Hey Delta 123 the 727, come up fingers" grd ATC: "uh, Delta 123 I think someone wants to talk to you on 123.45" (fingers) Delta: "Be advised delta professionals do not do such" ATC grd: "uh, whoever wants Delta, just go ahead" TWA "Yeah thanks ground. This is TWA 123. You want to tell those Delta professionals that their forward access door is open and hitting when they brake" ATC grd: "Delta 123 TWA ....reads it to them word for word... no response. ATC grd :"Delta 123, state your intentions" (laughter in background) Delta: "um, uh. . .we would like to return to the gate" ATC grd: Roger Delta, just pull to the side at the end and I'll get to you, and say thank you" Delta: "Roger, we'll pull over up here" (no thank you, no id) Someone keys their Mic and says, "Thank you TWA" Each aircraft in line repeats this in sequence with no id. Everyone's laughing. Wish I had a copy of that tape. TWA kind of dates it though. That hellhole door was messed up too. They had to have heard it. but. ..

What the hell was wrong with that guy? I can't see how there was a safety issue at all - as far as I can see he was just pissed off because the shamrock got the push before him. What an idiot for holding her on frequency at such a busy time, just to make a point. I thought she handled it brilliantly.

@hedgley

6 жыл бұрын

The safety issue was clearing two planes to push back at the same time with over 300 people on board and thousands of gallons of airfuel

@pacmanseven2544

6 жыл бұрын

tjf4375 well said sir

@captainwin6333

6 жыл бұрын

He was English and therefore entitled.

@VidyUwU

6 жыл бұрын

Yea like she has like 20 planes to deal with >. .> tbh at least someone told you rather is was ground crew or not. But don’t yell at the lady who can ground your flight >.

@azraelreloaded2879

6 жыл бұрын

Paul Garrett sounds like instead of just worrying about yourself (because thats what pilots do), maybe you should climb out of the cockpit, and climb in the tower. Give that a shot eh 😎😎😎

How in the world could you get mad at a voice like that? A sweet and truly professional ATC doing her best!

A single one-word, anonymous, response summed up that BA pilot exactly: "Tool!"

@makettle5340

4 жыл бұрын

What does took mean?

@idleonlooker1078

4 жыл бұрын

@@makettle5340 "Tool means in this context a very stupid, dumb, person. It's a very derogatory, use of the word, in this context.

@DreamFreeFPV

4 жыл бұрын

The person making this comment was a tool, if my FO/ Captain said that over the radio I'd think twice about flying with someone who thinks putting in a safety report is bitchy. It's not, it's part of the job description, and letting the other parties know is a courtesy.

@MrKeserian

4 жыл бұрын

@@DreamFreeFPV that BA pilot was violating protocol though, wasn't he? I mean, he tied up the frequency arguing with the ground controller after the almost, sort of, not really, "incident" with another aircraft who misunderstood the controllers instruction. The controller even, politely, had to cut him off and say that she is really far too busy to be arguing with him about who was at fault. Now, I'm not a pilot (medical disqual), but I'm something of an aviation buff, and my understanding is that the conversation should have been the pilot advising ground of the possible situation, ground confirming and explaining that the other aircraft had misunderstood her instructions, and then the BA pilot informing her he was going to file a safety report. Instead, you get this incredibly rude, sarcastic, and, worst of all, non-aviation related "Oh so it's his fault?" comment that is, in my interpretation, completely uncalled for, and intended to do nothing more than antagonize a possibly overworked controller. It's also telling that it's only /after/ the pilot of BAW81D hears the other pilots on frequency laughing at him that he informs ground of his intention to file a safety report. Is it within his right? Yes. Do I think he's doing it in retaliation for being embarrassed in front of the other pilots? Without a doubt. Is it a reportable incident? Maybe. I'm not familiar enough with the Irish regs to tell you, nor can we tell how close the two aircraft got. Was the pilot intentionally antagonizing and belittling the ground controller? I definitely think so, and I find his behavior to be incredibly unprofessional. The unnamed pilot was absolutely correct, this BA pilot was being an absolutely tool. From listening to this exchange, he was using the safety reporting system to get back at a controller who he felt had embarrassed him,and by doing so was undermining the effectiveness of that reporting system.

@mamavswild

3 жыл бұрын

@@DreamFreeFPV It was just unprofessional, anti-British bias that gets old and very, very petty.

It seems as though the British Airways pilots really like Dublin ATC! Great video!

@DublinAviation

8 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@ShamrockGoldCircle

8 жыл бұрын

If it was LHR ATC what are the odds that it wouldn't have happened!

@dublinairportplanes

8 жыл бұрын

id say he would be the same to them guys aswell, hes not really representing ba well or wille walsh for that matter.

@FlatEarthPhotography

8 жыл бұрын

So when you tell the truth about earth being flat? And don't try pretending you didn't know

@DeirdreMcNamara

8 жыл бұрын

Elegant British subtlety - meseems

"We were talking to the ground crew so we didn't hear you" and so one of them was not listening on frequency like they're supposed to?

For me the best part is how she, because she cannot simply just ‘Ghost” them, just tells them that the conversation cannot continue.

@karlosbricks2413

4 жыл бұрын

that is pretty standard for an on frequency disagreement...

BA pilot admits he wasn't listening out for ground control,yet somehow blames the controller.Tool is one word for him but there are several others.

Usually those things backfire on the pilot. The controller is from now on being used as an example of emotional control and focus while the pilot is being considered just plain rude and unprofessional.

@xx294

5 жыл бұрын

Except she was wrong and got reprimended. She lied about trying to contacting the pilot she never did such thing.

@BrySkye

5 жыл бұрын

Has it occurred to you that this video isn't the complete and unedited transcript of every transmission that was going on?

@ebonyloveivory

5 жыл бұрын

@@xx294 how did you know she got reprimanded? These things are shortened and not a complete picture of what happened. What happened clearly here was that we have an extremely rude pilot!

@xx294

5 жыл бұрын

@@ebonyloveivory This is the kind of answer that doesn't make me want to reply. How was he even remotely rude please explain?

@ebonyloveivory

5 жыл бұрын

@@xx294 So don't reply, I am not forcing you to. He was clearly testy and short with her. Being petty and nattering back and forth about what she should have done? It is unnecessary and a waste of time.

Reactions of other pilots on same frequency... priceless xD

3 жыл бұрын

Reactions of other pilots on same frequency. childish and unprofessional.

I'm involved in a very different kind of dispatch. However, the lady on ATC was amazing and doing a very demanding job. Shout out to those pilots who were being supportive. Captain Tool could do with some lessons in how to show proper respect.

The ATC lady was amazingly efficient and cool. And BA pilot not worth commenting.

@FACrazyCanuck

5 жыл бұрын

Mark M agreed, however, can’t help myself, BA Pilot is a dick head!

@thecornedbeefcouncil9792

3 жыл бұрын

FACrazyCanuck I just spoke to him, he thinks you’re a cock

There was a time when BA pilots were known for their impeccable professionalism. Arguing on freq is just inappropriate, especially when it's so busy. Conduct a safe operation first, and then, if necessary, deal with the non-emergency, currently resolved problem when the operation is complete. Never take it personally. These guys know better.

@alalalala57

6 жыл бұрын

dcs002 lol arguing about something that could've ended in a mid-air collision.

@wizbang68

6 жыл бұрын

Um, the comment "You should of told us that already" sounds like arguing to me. But I agree BA crews have lost their polish and now are more tarnished than anything. You see it in the way jets are cleaned, maintained and flight crews respond on long haul even to passengers in Business or First Class. Almost like the crews don't give a bit of concern for anything they do. I heard someone refer to their planes as speedturd

@GoldenProductionTE

6 жыл бұрын

TONYSTARK557 Hahaha fucking dumbass

@Schimml0rd

6 жыл бұрын

The Flying Pineapple lul, so thaaats why everybody is mocking him for being a fking pissy, calling him "tool" on frequency ;)

@onemercilessming1342

5 жыл бұрын

dcs002--Maybe he just resents being told what to do by a female, the misogynistic Neanderthal.

Who else is still extremely confused afire watching this??

@hoofhartedhd7690

8 жыл бұрын

ya this was like LOST I kind of know what's happening but not really

@liamboyce4203

8 жыл бұрын

But at least you can hear them fighting

@TheToaster87

8 жыл бұрын

just a stuck up pilot who didnt appreciate ATC doing her best...

@MrSleepygrizzly

8 жыл бұрын

I have no interest in piloting or working in a control tower, so I know nothing of this stuff. But surprisingly, it wasn't too hard to follow.

@TheToaster87

8 жыл бұрын

i know a fair amount about this, as I want to be a pilot and start training in about a year, but it is easier for people to understand when you have the words on the screen to read along with.

Love the other pilots saying “You’re doing a good job!”

As we say in Australia, "There's only one thing you can't tell a Pom ... anything."

I lost it when Shamrock went "OH MY GOD" XD

@weltonvillegal6258

5 жыл бұрын

And in that obvious Irish accent!

@bb3ca201

4 жыл бұрын

Me too

@garrett69

4 жыл бұрын

Yes, and he was the idiot who caused it.

It seems quite clear that other professional aviators (other pilots) took the same view as most of us listening, the controller was doing a good job. This behaviour from BA pilot seemed completely unnecessary and highly unprofessional. I may be missing something but it was clear from 30secs that they had been informed about being pushed back to 'charlie' It was very helpful to have the transcription.

@DeirdreMcNamara

8 жыл бұрын

They were Irish. Don't you get the Brit bashing tone here? It's ethnic, nothing to do with the actual situation where Ms.ATC made a serious error and BA pilot saved several hundred lives by going around her and checking with ground crews!

@dublinairportplanes

8 жыл бұрын

+Deirdre McNamara it might have damaged the plane somewhat but definitely not kill lots of people

@YouTube.TOM.A

6 жыл бұрын

@bananamanuk TBP HYMAR. Pilots and air traffic controllers are almost exclusively professionals and seek to operate safely. don't turn this incident into something that it is not. When you are pushing back an aircraft if there is a aircraft pushing back at another adjacent gate then the controller normally would advise the Cockpit crew so that they can avoid a collision. I am sure that all those other Professional Aviators [ using your own words ] would require the same consideration if they were pushing back from the gate.

@YouTube.TOM.A

6 жыл бұрын

controllers are very busy and handle multiple aircraft at the same time, so sometimes they may intend to do something immediately but may have to defer that action to deal with a more immediate situation. there is no bad intent here and the airline industry normally evaluates these incidents to improve safety, so its not unusual to do a report in such an incident.

@YouTube.TOM.A

6 жыл бұрын

@Sean O'Nilbud Great example of sexual harassment of a female who you disagree with. We are all working hard to change that dynamic and realize that those comments are inappropriate and degrading.

You have to be INSANE to take a flight controllers job! God Bless 'em!

@Maoud2

4 жыл бұрын

seca1, amen. This ATC went full spock mode. “live long and prosper, bitch”

Would LOVE to have heard Speedbird talking that way to “Kennedy Steve” at JFK. Ha!! 😂

@whiskeyd7

5 жыл бұрын

Chi Chi Or any busy ATC facility in the US.

@royalbirb275

5 жыл бұрын

Chi Chi oh they would get ripped apart. I’d pay to see that.

@Daniel_JS

5 жыл бұрын

Who knows, maybe it'll happen, and tbh that would be lit

@Athaeus

4 жыл бұрын

Kennedy Steve would be more commanding in his "KENNEDY GROUND TO AER LINGUS! STOP!" and "EARTH TO SPEEDBIRD 81 DELTA!! CAUTION AER LINGUS TRYING TO RAM YOU!". And he would make fun of the whole thing, and not be passive-aggressive about it. And probably welcome a safety report since this was actually a safety risk.

@OldWolflad

4 жыл бұрын

@DrScopeify yeah cos you yanks are so hard arent ya (:-

The ATC's voice sounds so calming

Good luck with that, Captain Happy. He said that he received the same information from the ground at the same time she was trying to radio him. So if he got the information he needed, from ANY source, what foul was committed that could be considered unsafe? The only safety issue I see here is a pilot with an attitude problem distracting an already overloaded ground controller. Whenever I hear a pilot act like this with ATC, I assume it's because he lost an argument with his wife that morning...and you can see why he lost the argument.

@D4RKBRU73

5 жыл бұрын

Perfectly summed up !

@ThorsteinKlingenberg

4 жыл бұрын

He was CLEARED to push back. If the ground crew had done just that they would have crashed into the Aer Lingus passing behind them: Turns out it wasn't clear after all. That's dangerous and the controllers fault.

"Tool" Whoever that was, legend.

I'm really happy that nearly all of the comment posters are not pilots nor ATC...

@ilikethisnamebetter

4 жыл бұрын

I''m really happy that sarcasm is alive and well in Denmark/Yorkshire.

@Athaeus

4 жыл бұрын

We're on KZread. We can confidently ascertain that almost none of the people in this comment section are trained in the aviation industry. At least I hope as much. Otherwise I'd be concerned that people are angry at the _one pilot_ who brought up the safety hazard, and cheer for the people cluttering the frequency with unprofessional name-calling, mocking laughter and bashing of a pilot that places safety first.

@gandalfthegrey8236

4 жыл бұрын

@@Athaeus If he placed safety first his ass would have stayed on the frequency he was supposed to be on. HE created the problem.

@BobGnarley.

4 жыл бұрын

@@gandalfthegrey8236 u mad bro?

@ilikethisnamebetter

3 жыл бұрын

@@gandalfthegrey8236 If he had stayed on frequency, he wouldn't have heard the ATC trying to contact him, because she never did.

I'm going to file a safety report when I get home, and I'm taking my ball with me too, so there!!

Just before we all hang the BA guy out to dry here (no sides taken).... Correct me if I'm wrong - ATC cleared the Speedbird to push 'point C' AFTER the Ryanair 737 passes behind and told the Stobart (Aer Lingus) to hold position. ATC then cleared the Stobart (Aer Lingus) to push to point B after the Ryanair parked then suddenly remembers to caution Stobart of the BA aircraft pushing to point C. BA then interrupts the transmission stating they have stopped the push due to the Stobart (Aer Lingus) being in the way. The ATC response is now to give way to the Stobart then continue push - not what the original clearance was. ATC also said she was trying to contact him on frequency?! We didn't hear that bit and I can only assume this sound clip was shortened? Either way ATC cocked up the original clearance, Speedbird should have been listening (if indeed she did try to contact him which there is no evidence of) and thirdly the manner in which Speedbird had a grievance was unprofessional but what about all the local pilots calling them a tool - not exactly professional either. In summary, disorganised ramp congestion which to all those who aren't local crew operating in and out of this airport will probably agree is all too familiar. Ryanair have had a few wing tip strikes here recently so there's clearly an issue at this airport. Cheers.

@TheLeCaptaine

8 жыл бұрын

There is a bit missing here. BA is cleared to push after the RYR passes and the stobart is to wait until BA has pushed however after the RYR parked the BA sat on stand and didn't move....as a result the stobart was cleared to push and atc told the BA to wait however BA missed this as they were not listening on ground frequency. You can hear the stobart captain telling them to push quicker in future. The clip cuts out atc calling the BA to hold.

@dexifon

8 жыл бұрын

I hear a "trying to call you" but no actual call to BA81D stopping the push-back. Has the "tape" been edited? I do hear some childish & unprofessional comments by others who should know better.

That was actually quite lovely to hear ... all the subsequent pilots gently letting her know she was *not* in the wrong!

I have watched this video so many times..I just love the professionalism of the controller..as sharp as a razor of course... great backing up from the other pilots...

Many comments here forget that this was the busiest day of the year and the ATC had 15 aircraft to deal with at once. Personally I would have found that very difficult to deal with, and even if she was at fault (which I don't think she is) credit has to be given to her for having so many different situations to manage on the go. The BA pilot should have been more understanding. He has one plane to deal with which is a difficult enough job, she had 15.

@dublinairportplanes

8 жыл бұрын

agree, dublin is one busy airport, alot busyer then manchester, stansted, luton, etc but not gatwick or heathrow

@DeirdreMcNamara

8 жыл бұрын

Just posted about the possibility of her being overwhelmed, but she made a serious error. She is at fault, but instead of apologizing she tried to throw it back on the BA pilot. If he had not used initiative and checked with ground staff, he and the Delta could be winging their way to Heaven. An American pilot might have read her in some pretty colorful terms, and justifiably, but BA was courteous and cool. If she apologized that would be the last of it. I wouldn't want her job, but in my experience too many Irish women in positions of authority feel licensed to be extremely rude and unprofessional and never apologize. One witch at the Malahide Library some years ago, literally erased a play that I had written for the RTE Radio Playwrighting contest, because she wanted to go to lunch! Didn't need any calories by the looks of her.

@DeirdreMcNamara

8 жыл бұрын

People can make mistakes, the BA pilot I'm sure would have been noble about it, but her attitude is DANGEROUS! Make a mistake, own to it and correct the fundamental situation.

@dublinairportplanes

8 жыл бұрын

+Deirdre McNamara Deirdre your just commenting because you want to criticise Irish people in general,

@DeirdreMcNamara

8 жыл бұрын

If that were my aim, alan scott, I'd write a book - or five! Seriously, Irish people are not all bigots like you, but there is a low esteem element that still blames Britain for Ireland's current woes, and takes any chance you can to throw bricks at the Brits - and this is one of them. Objectively speaking, ATC goofed up in a difficult situation; BA saved the day, but was understandably not happy that he and his passengers were put at risk, but was still polite, and was correct to file a report. If DA is that busy, they may need extra staff. Not my favorite airport, had horrid experiences there last touchdown. Love Shannon. Best in the world.

I really love when she said "And I'm too busy to continue any further conversation about this on frequency". Hahaha

@Soul_Slayer

5 жыл бұрын

DSLeicester Planes land and take off at Dublin everyone 75 seconds. I’m pretty sure she was actually busy. And technically it was the pilot’s fault. He should’ve been waiting for the ATC instead of radioing the ground crew. The info from the GC may have been incorrect and could’ve caused more problems or even an accident. Good things come to those who wait. He should’ve just been patient.

@monkeyboyz100

5 жыл бұрын

Jenny And Ben "TOOL" He is doing a great job...

@xockered1944

5 жыл бұрын

She made no mistake you twat!

@jimsullivan9873

5 жыл бұрын

Kennedy ATC GROUND would have one word for that pilot...."ENOUGH!"

I've always thought of speedbird pilots as being the most professional and competent, but I suppose there's always one. I hope he filed his report and everything was looked into, just to show what a total rectum he was and put it on the record.

Damn, I'm only 50 seconds in, and she is ALL BUSINESS.

Fair play She took no shit and remained professional whilst doing so! Pilots are hilarious in response the BW pilot! 😂😂

@olivermac6882

8 жыл бұрын

that b.a lad is an utter eejit

@Nathan-cl4bd

8 жыл бұрын

+Oliver McEnroe absolute fact!!

@LynxStarAuto

8 жыл бұрын

Tool! I died

@samw.8734

7 жыл бұрын

He actually said fucking tool, which makes it more hilarious. they bleeped it though

@LynxStarAuto

7 жыл бұрын

Samuel W. Dakota omg

Things are still tense between the Brits and Irish.

@TheDaverobinson

6 жыл бұрын

I was scrolling through the comments looking for the first tool who would make this about Britain/Ireland - and it was you congrats. It’s not about countries - it’s about arseholes.

@christophebonhoefferofbelg9846

6 жыл бұрын

Not Applicable ...Mine too...always one asshole 👍

@johngriffith5426

6 жыл бұрын

Things are still tense between the English and Irish.

@TheDaverobinson

6 жыл бұрын

Nope - wrong again - things are tense between arseholes. I can guarantee that 99.999999% of people from both countries can happily spend time drinking and watching the football together without even a hint of bad feeling.

@JoyoSnooze

6 жыл бұрын

The guy was being a dick to anyone, makes no difference that it was Irish and “Brits”(Irish too)

I’m a pushback driver on the ramp in Dublin airport and understand every part of this but I’d be on the frequency going mad if I was cleared to push but had someone cut me off despite being instructed to standby till I’m clear with my push.

@ilikethisnamebetter

Жыл бұрын

Well done for saying this - although she _didn't_ tell the other plane to standby until BA was clear. It wasn't their fault, it was hers.

This profession seems more stressful than being a pilot. 😐

Played this for former head of ATC, who had two observations. Firstly, the amount of planes she was dealing with was unusually high but she did remain very calm and professional. Secondly, there are two British Airways pilots. Both of them should not have been communicating with ground crew; one should have been on frequency to take direction from ATC. The actual safety issue is one of negligence on behalf of the BA crew, failure to adhere to comms protocol.

@aoifemolloy5159

7 жыл бұрын

Erm Gray thank you for clarifying this

@MarkPJordan

6 жыл бұрын

Aoife Molloy You're very welcome :)

@phillee2814

5 жыл бұрын

So where in the recording did she warn the BA Pilot, which she later claimed to have done when called out on it?

@zzzaziz7852

5 жыл бұрын

Totally disagree pilots should be communicating to ground crew and to atc at the same time .

@iaminevitable8045

5 жыл бұрын

Calm and professional BUT missed out an important instruction to the BAW pilot. If ATC ground was that busy then maybe the controller shouldn't have pushed back so many aircraft in close proximity at once. And where was delivery/planner controller.

The biggest air-crash in history was caused by an impatient arrogant captain. The Grace of God is in Courtesy. Well done ATC a credit to Irish professionalism and skill.

@hoofhartedhd7690

8 жыл бұрын

what one was that buddy ?

@ctyerkes

8 жыл бұрын

+HOOF HARTED HD Tenerife

@hoofhartedhd7690

8 жыл бұрын

ctyerkes really I must look it up thanks buddy

@Ballymulch

8 жыл бұрын

Thank you William I could not remember the details but had a vague recollection. It shows how awful arrogance can be when it drives someone in control of an aircraft to act impulsively.

@m_swizzy22

8 жыл бұрын

One thing that sure is that Irish pilots(or pilots trained in Ireland) do not fear landing in crosswinds, unless they are gust of over 40+ knots, they stay calm and put the plane down like as if there was no wind, I'm going to begin my pilot training in Dublin(or Cork) after I finish my secondary school, currently in 5th year.. A little bit more

There are two planes side by side at their gates waiting to be pushed back. She gives the BA approval to push back. She tells Stobart to "listen out", i.e. that she's gave BA approval to push right next to her. She then gives approval to Stobart to push and cautions them that the BA is also pushing out. Everyone on freq understands the situation, and it's not particularly dangerous. One of the planes has to push out, then the other can. It's seems ground expected the BA to push sooner, and tried to get Stobart to wait, but the BA was too slow and Stobart pushed first so he had to wait. That's what the "get off the stand quicker" comment was about. BA kinda screwed up the situation by not pushing quicker and then hassled ground about it. That being said, ground could have made it much more clear to Stobart that they had to wait for the BA to push.

@ThorsteinKlingenberg

4 жыл бұрын

Yes, but you're wrong. There was an Aer Lingus plane passing behind the BA. If the ground crew hadn't stopped pushing the BA two planes loaded with jet fuel and 300+ passengers would have collided. The BA pilots were CLEARED to push back. They did and was startled at the Aer Lingus suddenly passing behind them. It turned out it wasn't clear after all and that is the controllers fault. The accident was avoided but it shouldn't depend on luck, that's not how aviation safety works.

@Sphere723

4 жыл бұрын

@@ThorsteinKlingenbergPL Yeah ... no. It was a Stobart Air STOBART96PL ATR, probably liveried as Aer Lingus Regional which was cleared to push at 0:53 with the warning "caution there's a British Airways on your left will be pushing back also to Charlie." When she gave the BA clearance to push it was clear to push. He just took his time. I think you can fault her for not giving clear instructions to Stobart. Her warning is ambiguous. If she wanted Stobart to wait for the BA (which is what she says at 1:37), she should have said so directly not just implied it. And I guess technically she should have repeated the warning to the BA pilot, but practically he should have been monitoring the freq and understood the situation like everyone else did.

@ThorsteinKlingenberg

4 жыл бұрын

@@Sphere723 They didn't have to, they were given clearance and could push back at their leisure. Also, the ground crew pushes them back, so if they were slow it wasn't necessarily the pilots fault. As the Stobart/Aer Lingus was second in line and told to wait, they should have stopped, and asked the ground controller to get priority before passing. Then she could have asked the BA what the delay was and possibly told them to hold while the ATR passed behind them. She showed poor situational awareness and her unsafe actions were dangerous. The pilots were totally right in pointing that out. As for the other "professionals" on the frequency... They made themselves look like the biggest tool on the field.

If this was at JFK he’d still be on the apron

@jimpaxman8330

3 жыл бұрын

They would of came out of the tower and punched the pilot in the face lmao.

I think learning to fly is the easy part and understanding every shit they talk over the radio is the hard part.

@bozzie7718

5 жыл бұрын

Tony Skywalker listen write down one pilot is taxing the plane while the other is communicating pilots will write the stuff down so it’s easier to repeat

@lewiscurrie4979

5 жыл бұрын

BoZzie Not always the case. Usually you know what the ATC is going to say before they say it so it’s more just making that’s what’s happening. Taxing instructions can get a bit complicated but if you know the layout of the taxiways then it makes it a bit easier. But about 60-70% of the calls are just confirming what you already know and either go one of two ways. You get what your expecting or they tell you that’s not going to happen then you need to open your ears. But most good pilots can listen whilst doing other things at the same time and read back no problem.

@djm.6322

5 жыл бұрын

Really once you understand some basic things, ATC conversations are pretty straightforward. It varies by governing body (I'm pretty sure the FAA doesn't require a push and start, and we don't call then stands but rather gates) but the brunt of the terminology is universal. You can learn a lot from playing FSX, and I've learned even more from watching airforceproud95 😂 those are two great resources for this kind of stuff

@BitwiseMobile

5 жыл бұрын

@@djm.6322 It is pretty standard. If you just listen to some conversations you can pick it up easily. I also fly about 20 hours a week on FSX. You can even get "real" ATC with FSX Add ons like VoxATC and ProATC. You can file VFR and IFR flight plans with these add ons and there are actual human controllers who will berate you if you don't use proper radio discipline. You can also just listen in on some of them if you want to pick up the lingo.

Damn, they don't get flustered at all. Oh I'll be filing a safety report. Very good sir thank you.

@QemeH

5 жыл бұрын

That's what professionals do. When someone tells me "I'm going to file a complaint about you" (or something to that effect), I always answer with "Thank you. We always look forward to learn from our mistakes. Here is the card of my captain and his number." Takes the wind right out of their sails most of the time - and if they have a genuine complaint and aren't just venting, then it is actually worth to look into it. Maybe I did something wrong and they are just bad at explaining the problem...

@n16161

5 жыл бұрын

The pilot is telling ATC that he’ll be filing a safety report about the other pilot’s behavior. That’s why the other pilots laugh afterwards.

I love how every pilot starts to thank her and her work even though they never would've thanked just to annoy the clown hahahaha

I like her atc voice! It is confident, clear and professional sounds like a radio newsreader. Truly a great controller

Definitely a bit embarrassed to have that pilot representing British Airways over in Dublin...

@celticlofts

5 жыл бұрын

You've absolutely nothing to be embarrassed about. The attitude of one plonker is not a reflection of a good airline. I'm sure he'll get a bit of a dressing down back at base.

@TB-if7px

5 жыл бұрын

@@johnnythreebollocks3496 Hahah you're not being serious right now?

@AlanKSimulations

5 жыл бұрын

@Johnny Threebollocks sorry remind me, how many aircraft and souls has BA lost and how many have Aer Lingus or Ryanair? Which of the 3 airlines flies to EU regulations which allows suicidal pilots crash their plan and which 2 operate the FAA sterile cockpit and no man left alone policies, BA arent looking so 1st rate now, also the BA pilot admits to 'not listening to atc frequency because talking to ground crew', the BA pilot admits to not listening to the one radio channel they must always be listening to while in a cockpit!

@dansnn8378

5 жыл бұрын

Johnny Threebollocks stall the fucking ball it’s not because the BA pilot was British it’s because the BA pilot was a dick

@gregorykusiak5424

5 жыл бұрын

Daniel Aviation Ireland or having a bad day at the least. Unprofessional of him to take that out on the controller on frequency.

I was listening to this from the article on breaking news earlier on!! I totally love this channel massive fan of aviation and I live 5 mins from dub airport I'm always watching them land and take off! A sub and a like for you good sir!

@DublinAviation

8 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for your kind words Amy, really nice to hear.

@AmyKateYT1

8 жыл бұрын

+Dublin Aviation no problem, it's cool to think there's someone not too far from me capturing these entertaining moments! 😊🍀🇮🇪

@wispy7023

8 жыл бұрын

Haha I live like 15 mins away. I only get to hear them, unfortunately.

@tjwykes7731

8 жыл бұрын

I live 5 mins away from Dublin airport have and of you guys been to Shannon airport ????? Lol !!!!!

@AmyKateYT1

8 жыл бұрын

+TJ Wykes I can't say I have!! I know a guy who's dad was an air traffic controller for Shannon though that's about as close as it gets haha... I do listen to it though sometimes on live atc if I can't sleep in the am, as all the transatlantic flights are passing in the wee hours 😉

The ground controller was doing a great job, keeping her cool. Wondering how nobody loses control and starts using bad language on the air 🤣

She was brilliant and handled it great and kudos to the other pilots for backing her up!! And to the pilot who yelled "TOOL" awesome

ATC was great. she was very professional well done

Wow, all he did was add stress to that poor lady. Like she needed more

I love the way the other pilots stepped in.

Pilot has a point. The other aircraft should not have been cleared until all confirmed

@celticlofts

3 жыл бұрын

Shit happens all the time but professional pilots just get on with the job. His attitude should have resulted in him having to return to the stand for the safety of the passengers. I hope he got a proper bollocking from his employers for that.

I like how sweet most of the pilots were reassuring her that she was doing a good job. Hopefully that made her day

What a gowl. No way I'd be able to do her job at all.

Wow! I'd be glad just to find the runway with all that confusion.

One of my family friend who is a pilot told me before that decent pilot are always respectful toward the controller because even from the cockpit it's obvious how busy the airport is and how difficult it must be to direct all those traffic, and that it's piloting 101 to be focused on listening to controller if your buddy is not assigned to do so.

Tower control must be the most stressful job.

@StratoSound

7 жыл бұрын

You don't say.

@terryofford4977

7 жыл бұрын

Approach can be even worse, believe me, as their are many different dialects which need practice to understand, Local (Tower )control can vary, accents take a while to get used to but aren't impossible)in addition the TOWER controller also has the Safety Aspects, plus Push Back traffic Plus re-fueling,Safety and some areas, even Customs & Excise. Variety is the name of the game.

@Kieran7931

6 жыл бұрын

To be technical, this controller was the ground controller, not the tower controller... but your point is still very valid. :)

@gunandbomb4637

6 жыл бұрын

They are underpaid for the amount of stress they endure. They don't even make 200k

@YouTube.TOM.A

6 жыл бұрын

Controllers [ in my humble opinion ] make very few errors, but I am sure that there is some embarrassment for Pilots to admit the occasions that a controller saved their A$$.

She has a fantastic voice, and her ability to stay calm with that fellow was on point.

She didn’t bite at all great job. That’s the cool calm attitude you want in the person flying the dam plane!

Missus Dublin Ground handled everything like a complete boss. Way to go my dear!

Anyone got an e-mail address for Willie Walsh? I'd send him this. I doubt he'd be impressed with this idiot! She was brilliant, and wasn't rattled by him.

@DublinAviation

8 жыл бұрын

bigwilly@ba.com

Aw that's cute when the pilots are like "good girl!"

JFK controllers would just send Captain Jackass on a round trip of the entire airport. It'd be hours before he got to take off.

She stated earlier, she didn't have time to talk to him any longer. So he took all his toys and went home to tell mommy.🤣😂🤣😥

What do pilots use for contraception? Their personality!😂

Wow! That was actually pretty incredible. What a job, What a mad bloody job. I could actually listen to her voice for ages.

Shocking misogynist behaviour from that BA pilot. He wouldn’t t have spoken to a man like that. He should be forced to apologise and then fired. What a cretin

She’s awesome! I love how the pilots had her back!

There's only one rude person on that call, and it is the air traffic controller. The BA pilot just pointed out the confusion with no anger in his voice at all. He says calmly "you should have told us that before really" Her response was "I was trying to call you, you weren't listening out..." How does she know he "wasn't listening"? That is what is rude and annoys the BA pilot. Her tone is also of annoyance rather than calmness, and it is this comment which turns this sour.

@d.markdetrixhe3367

8 жыл бұрын

Wrong Dr Meat. Look at the Airport Charts, Airport Specific 1.6. Taxi Procedures: "ATC may require ACFT to manoeuvre in close proximity to other ACFT. Avoidance of other ACFT is the responsibility of flight crew involved. If doubt exists as to whether an ACFT can be passed safely, flight crew should STOP, advise ATC, and request alternative instructions if available." That's the rules BA skipped when he should have read.

I am British and not especially proud of the fact. That pilot was behaving foolishly. She tried to close down the dialogue summarily and he wouldn't have it. Unfortunately many Brits do have a holier than thou attitude. It's a bad attitude.

@kernow9324

7 жыл бұрын

I see you're not especially proud to be British. What's that all about?

@paulanderson79

7 жыл бұрын

There's precious little of which to be proud. For example: 6th richest country on Earth and we still need food banks. What's that about?

@ad567

6 жыл бұрын

UK prick

@Procrastinator69

6 жыл бұрын

+Chris Bradley, people like +paulanderson79 are the ones that made the UK (at least parts of it) great, because they find the flaws and wish to fix them. So in actuality it is you ass kissing.... your own ego. If you love your country you wish to make it better, not accept the worst of it.

@robertgaudet7407

6 жыл бұрын

I like how your MPs gave very brave condemnations of Trump before you had your PM come over to kiss his feet.

"That's CAPTAIN Tool, if you please"