Britain's First Supersonic Plane | De Havilland D.H 108 Swallow [Aircraft Overview #58]

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Today we're taking a look at the De Havilland D.H 108 Swallow. This was an aircraft built as a 1/2 model to test a tailless design for the de Havilland Comet. This project yielded three prototypes, each one would crash fatally, but valuable lessons would be learned, and the Swallow would perform a series of 'firsts' for British aviation.
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Producing these videos is a hobby of mine - and apparently its now a full-time job too! I have a passion for history, and personally own a large collection of books, journals and other texts, and endeavor to do as much research as possible. However if there are any mistakes, please don't hesitate to reach out and correct anything :)
Sources:
Butler.T & Delezenne.JL (2010), X-Planes of Europe
Jackson.A.J, Jackson.R.T (1987), De Havilland Aircraft since 1909

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  • @RexsHangar
    @RexsHangar2 жыл бұрын

    F.A.Q Section Q: Do you take aircraft requests? A: I have a list of aircraft I plan to cover, but feel free to add to it with suggestions:) Q: Why do you use imperial measurements for some videos, and metric for others? A: I do this based on country of manufacture. Imperial measurements for Britain and the U.S, metric for the rest of the world, but I include text in my videos that convert it for both. Q: Will you include video footage in your videos, or just photos? A: Video footage is very expensive to licence, if I can find footage in the public domain I will try to use it, but a lot of it is hoarded by licencing studies (British Pathe, Periscope films etc). In the future I may be able to afford clips :) Q: Why do you sometimes feature images/screenshots from flight simulators? A: Sometimes there are not a lot of photos available for certain aircraft, so I substitute this with digital images that are as accurate as possible. Feel free to leave you questions below - I may not be able to answer all of them, but I will keep my eyes open :)

  • @davidcolter

    @davidcolter

    2 жыл бұрын

    Request - Fairey Seafox and the Rapier engine (predecessor of the Sabre) - 66 built, served until 1943.

  • @SephirothRyu

    @SephirothRyu

    2 жыл бұрын

    Already mentioned it before, I think, but Request: Boeing-Stearman Model 75. A fairly large number are flown by enthusiasts to this day, so reaching out to pilots for footage should be fairly easy.

  • @bhhbcc4573

    @bhhbcc4573

    2 жыл бұрын

    Do the full Empire of the clouds. Please.

  • @Irobert1115HD

    @Irobert1115HD

    2 жыл бұрын

    request: heinkel he162 spatz. i want to see the wehrabos cry.

  • @FemmeCatGirl

    @FemmeCatGirl

    2 жыл бұрын

    Request VFW VAK 191B A wittle knyown west German cold war vtyol reconnaissance and strike aircraft

  • @andrewthomson
    @andrewthomson2 жыл бұрын

    Ah yes the European Swallow, not to be confused with the African Swallow.

  • @lancerevell5979

    @lancerevell5979

    2 жыл бұрын

    Laden or unladen? 😄

  • @luvr381

    @luvr381

    2 жыл бұрын

    Ah, but African swallows are non-migratory.

  • @RexsHangar

    @RexsHangar

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes but did this swallow have a coconut in the cockpit? 🤔🤣

  • @andrewthomson

    @andrewthomson

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@RexsHangar I think you'd have to be a bit coconuts to fly it 😂

  • @notfeedynotlazy

    @notfeedynotlazy

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@RexsHangar It had some nuts at the drawing board, at least

  • @kevinbarry71
    @kevinbarry712 жыл бұрын

    If the swallow had been successful they were going to make a bigger version, call the gulp

  • @elen5871

    @elen5871

    2 жыл бұрын

    don't be ridiculous, it was going to be a lot like the V bombers, it was going to be the S interceptors, the Swallow, the Spit...

  • @nathanflynn6092

    @nathanflynn6092

    2 жыл бұрын

    Well done, nice one

  • @BA-gn3qb

    @BA-gn3qb

    2 жыл бұрын

    Sold at 7/11s everywhere

  • @Allan_aka_RocKITEman

    @Allan_aka_RocKITEman

    2 жыл бұрын

    _"What do you mean -- African or European Swallow?"_ 😊

  • @ihatemegatron216

    @ihatemegatron216

    2 жыл бұрын

    Or the even larger version called the chug.

  • @Aengus42
    @Aengus422 жыл бұрын

    If Eric "Winkle" Brown says "It's a killer!" they should've literally gone back to the drawing board and started all over again! That guy had so much experience in so many aircraft. Including the Me 163 Komet, so he'd flown fast, tailless, swept wing aircraft before & was probably the only person, at that time, who had the experience to opine about the Swallow. I wouldn't've touched it with a bargepole if I'd heard what Captain "Winkle" Brown had said about the Swallow!

  • @bigblue6917

    @bigblue6917

    2 жыл бұрын

    Ironically Alexander Lippisch, the man behind the Me 163 had been in Britain but by the time they came to design the Swallow he was in America.

  • @Aengus42

    @Aengus42

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@bigblue6917 Yup, they lost the bloke that could've helped them most because nobody wanted to work with a German. Typical English racism. I HATE IT! It's why brexit happened. Disgusting!

  • @RexsHangar

    @RexsHangar

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah that's why I specifically wanted to mention his comments. His words carried weight!

  • @Sailing360

    @Sailing360

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@RexsHangar or should have carried more weight yet ;-)

  • @yes_head

    @yes_head

    2 жыл бұрын

    And he says "It's a killer" in a Scottish accent, even more reason! (*cue John Cleese pointing at the killer rabbit*)

  • @MadMogsy
    @MadMogsy2 жыл бұрын

    On a slightly related note, if you have an interest in De Havilland, I would really recommend visiting the De Havilland museum at London Colney, Hertfordshire, containing the first prototype of the Mosquito. It doesn't get the recognition of Duxford or Hendon but it's been maintained with care by volunteers and really deserves more attention.

  • @unclestuka8543

    @unclestuka8543

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes indeed, run by dedicated Chaps.

  • @skully5531

    @skully5531

    2 жыл бұрын

    I filmed a documentary for my college there. Very good museum

  • @stevetournay6103

    @stevetournay6103

    Жыл бұрын

    That place will always be a favourite with me. In April 1989 my dad and I flew from Canada to the UK to visit air museums. Very soon after arrival we realized the Mosquito Aircraft Museum (as it was then called) was open only that day out of the days we would be in the country, so from our B&B we called a taxi and went straight to London Colney. We'd been at MAM maybe twenty minutes when the docent, finding out we had come from Canada, had me climb aboard W4050...

  • @SuperNevile

    @SuperNevile

    2 ай бұрын

    @@stevetournay6103 A "docent". Have never heard that word before, so had to look it up. Yes; and you learn something new every day.

  • @andrewince8824
    @andrewince88242 жыл бұрын

    I can only imagine someone saw the Komet and thought "yes, but not explosive".

  • @carlwheezerofsouls3273

    @carlwheezerofsouls3273

    Жыл бұрын

    “And maybe a little bit less of a flying egg….”

  • @DubGathoni

    @DubGathoni

    Жыл бұрын

    And it still managed to explode at lot.

  • @mrshark1757
    @mrshark17572 жыл бұрын

    One thing you didn't mention about Geoffrey De Havilland Jr.'s crash of the DH 108 was that, after the crash, he was found to have a broken neck/spine. It is thought that the violent oscillations that the swallow was experiencing caused the quite-tall De Havilland Jr to hit his head hard on the canopy and break his neck/spine. I read about this in "Wings on my sleeve" by Eric Brown, and I would highly recommend that book to those who haven't read it and like aviation.

  • @JustMe00257

    @JustMe00257

    Жыл бұрын

    I heard Eric Brown tell this very story during an interview available on the RAeS Podcast. He said that he had sought information from the engineers in charge of wind tunnel testing. He was to a certain extent aware of the possibility of violent pitch oscillations and he had therefore placed his seat as far low as possible prior to duplicating G. De Havilland's accident flight profile. This, with his smaller height, prevented his head from violently hitting the canopy when the oscillations suddenly began - which as you said had killed G. De Havilland. He then eased the throttle back and gently pulled back on the stick and the phenomenon ceased as suddenly as it had begun. He discribed the oscillations as much more extreme that wind tunnel investigations had anticipated.

  • @Dr_Jebus
    @Dr_Jebus2 жыл бұрын

    Brilliant as always. And my god, the nerves of steel on those (and I guess any) test pilots.

  • @lancerevell5979

    @lancerevell5979

    2 жыл бұрын

    Balls of chromoly steel!

  • @sjTHEfirst
    @sjTHEfirst2 жыл бұрын

    There are some channels that you hit the like button at the start of the video because you know it’s always great content. This is one of those channels. 👍🏼

  • @matchrocket1702
    @matchrocket17022 жыл бұрын

    Too bad it was such a lousy plane, it looked so cool.

  • @Pugiron

    @Pugiron

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, the Germans they copied worked hard on that design

  • @tonedeaftachankagaming457

    @tonedeaftachankagaming457

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Pugiron It only looks somewhat like a Komet, mechanically its completely different. The Sabre and MiG are more closely related than these.

  • @rob5944

    @rob5944

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Pugiron everyone copied the Germans, for they were excellent engineers.

  • @pb6198

    @pb6198

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Pugiron it's fundamentals are completely different, in approach, operation and methodology

  • @matchrocket1702

    @matchrocket1702

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@rob5944 Yes they were. Unfortunately they, or the manufacturers got lost in a sea of details. Their weapons were often too complicated and required constant maintenance. That was especially true of their tanks. Early jet engines, all of them, had lifetimes measured in hours.

  • @patrickstewart3446
    @patrickstewart34462 жыл бұрын

    Well, if Eric Brown says it’s terrible it must be true. After all, he IS the expert in this field. 😁

  • @davidelliott5843

    @davidelliott5843

    2 жыл бұрын

    Eric Brown, slated to fly the Miles M52 supersonic jet, was stunned when U.K. government canned the project just before the prototype was due to fly.

  • @AtheistOrphan

    @AtheistOrphan

    2 жыл бұрын

    Brown was a legend. I have several of his books.

  • @wbertie2604

    @wbertie2604

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@davidelliott5843 It was only half-finished at best, so it couldn't have been just before it was due to fly. To be fair, my father has my book and I've never actually got to read it.

  • @sandervanderkammen9230

    @sandervanderkammen9230

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@davidelliott5843 The Miles M.52 never existed... the was cancelled well before construction of a prototype.

  • @sandervanderkammen9230

    @sandervanderkammen9230

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@wbertie2604 Work on the M.52 never started. The scandal broke while it was still an incomplete design on paper.

  • @damien5748
    @damien5748 Жыл бұрын

    If the late Captain Eric "winkle" Brown was critical of an aircrafts handling and saftey then you BETTER sit up and take notice....that man KNEW EXACTLY what he was talking about.

  • @ShiftingDrifter
    @ShiftingDrifter2 жыл бұрын

    The particularly remarkable kind of courage possessed by that generation of test flyers through the supersonic R&D era cannot be overstated. These were extraordinary men who understood the demands, rewards and consequences like few other human beings in history have ever realized. They all well knew they were risking there lives proving radically new designs while pushing the envelope of knowledge for the advancement of aviation. These were incredible individuals to be remembered - not for how they died, but how they bravely lived life so close to the edge!

  • @sandervanderkammen9230

    @sandervanderkammen9230

    Жыл бұрын

    A truly shameful chapter in British history as the U.K. desparately fought to remain relevant in the postwar aircraft industry... By the end of the war Britain was not only broke it was years behind in aircraft technology, de Havilland especially was decades behind and began making extremely risky gamble with new designs that were way beyond the technical experience the company had.. This game of bad management and reckless engineering would ultimately culminate in the worst engineering failure in commercial jet aircraft history... the _Comet Disaster_ Bad designs like the Swallow, Vampire, Comet and Sea Vixen would eventually bring the inevitable demise of the once great British aircraft company and signal the start downward spiral of the entire UK aircraft industry into complete collapse. The current RAF fleet consists of almost entirely foreign designed or built aircraft... its most advanced jet fighter being the American Lockheed F-35.

  • @spencerdawkins

    @spencerdawkins

    10 ай бұрын

    @ShiftingDrifter - Yes. And we might have pointed to the rapid pace of testing, and said "they should have been more cautious", but at least some of the exciting new problems they encountered weren't linear in nature - you could speed up, or move the controls, and a problem would appear that didn't start small and get worse - a huge problem would suddenly reveal itself in a way that gave no warning. Having a plane in a shallow dive suddenly break an experienced test pilot's neck is a good example.

  • @johnforsyth7987
    @johnforsyth79872 жыл бұрын

    I would love to see a video on an important American aircraft I have not seen a video on. That being the Beechcraft 18. This aircraft was in production from 1937 to 1970. Which is something of a record in itself. I was responsible for training the cast majority of the navigators and the bombardiers for the USACC. Some of these aircraft still fly today.

  • @Ronnie1001
    @Ronnie10012 жыл бұрын

    Do modern aircraft design engineers ever train their graduate staff by presenting them with historic aircraft designs and giving them the task of using computer simulation to evaluate how each aircraft would behave and see how accurate their analysis is? And then give them the task of suggesting improvements? It would be fascinating to know what the latest Boeing or Airbus simulator technology would make of these early designs.

  • @DoktorBayerischeMotorenWerke

    @DoktorBayerischeMotorenWerke

    5 ай бұрын

    de Havilland aircraft are often taught in engineering classrooms as examples of what can go wrong in the design and manufacturing process, the d-h Comet is another aircraft frequently discussed .

  • @peterbrown6224
    @peterbrown62242 жыл бұрын

    I'm currently reading "Jet Jockeys" (Caygill, 2002), which covers the introduction of several jet types to the RAF to the end of the 1950s. There were a few death traps.

  • @bigblue6917

    @bigblue6917

    2 жыл бұрын

    Some time ago I came across some figures about the deaths of trainee test pilots in the US in the 50s. Half of all trainees died during training. This did make me wonder of those who survived the course how many passed.

  • @malcontender6319

    @malcontender6319

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@bigblue6917 50% survival rate in *training* is hideous.

  • @kilianortmann9979

    @kilianortmann9979

    2 жыл бұрын

    I you haven't already, you should read "Wings on my Sleeve", the Biography of Eric "Winkle" Brown. He flew hundreds (no typo) different Aircraft types, is the pilot with the most carrier landings (2407!) and flew all German jet fighters. The man taught himself how to fly helicopters by reading the manual.

  • @peterbrown6224

    @peterbrown6224

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@kilianortmann9979 Thank you. He had a very lengthy obituary in The Telegraph and I read more about him at the time. I've ordered the book.

  • @tompiper9276

    @tompiper9276

    Жыл бұрын

    @@malcontender6319 50% survival rate in combat is horrendous.... But in training??? The word horrendous is inadequate. I just can't think of anything else.

  • @maryclarafjare
    @maryclarafjare2 жыл бұрын

    Excellent video. Always learn a lot. Thanks!

  • @paulvillain119
    @paulvillain1192 жыл бұрын

    your videos are great my guy

  • @joncox9719
    @joncox97192 жыл бұрын

    On the third crash, it was thought the pilot lost conciousness due to lack of oxygen. But radio reception of him screaming all the way down eliminated that posibility!

  • @Dat-Mudkip

    @Dat-Mudkip

    2 жыл бұрын

    That's fucked up.

  • @Sacto1654
    @Sacto16542 жыл бұрын

    I think the big problem was that the DH. 108 was essentially a flying wing with single vertical tail. It's too bad de Havilland couldn't get access to the Horten brothers, who probably would have told de Havilland to design the wing with more control surfaces to better control the pitch, yaw and roll of the plane. (After all, the Horten brothers did manage to build and fly an all-flying wing jet fighter prototype with two Junkers Jumo 004 turbojets that actually flew quite well.)

  • @keithpearson7539
    @keithpearson75392 жыл бұрын

    Excellent video as always!

  • @cranklabexplosion-labcentr8245
    @cranklabexplosion-labcentr82452 жыл бұрын

    As someone who used to fly RC combat wings, NEVER stall a flying wing.

  • @henryfleischer404

    @henryfleischer404

    2 жыл бұрын

    I've gotta try that in KSP.

  • @leneanderthalien

    @leneanderthalien

    2 жыл бұрын

    No issue if stalling a Fauvel flying wing

  • @jefffefferson8339

    @jefffefferson8339

    2 жыл бұрын

    Please, tell us why.

  • @redblade8160

    @redblade8160

    2 жыл бұрын

    Crank Lab Explosion - lab central My flying-wing always comes back to me when I throw it.

  • @cranklabexplosion-labcentr8245

    @cranklabexplosion-labcentr8245

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jefffefferson8339 Remember in Top Gun how Gooses’ plane went into a flat spin and crashed? Same idea

  • @rob5944
    @rob59442 жыл бұрын

    I've always admired test pilots for their tremendous bravery, often sacrificing themselves in the name of progress and endeavour.

  • @sandervanderkammen9230

    @sandervanderkammen9230

    2 жыл бұрын

    De Havilland certainly earned its bad reputation for safety and staggering rate of crashes... it's amazing that they managed to survive until 1958.

  • @grahamhufton7715
    @grahamhufton77152 жыл бұрын

    Love the channel. Really glad to see it grow this year. Good wishes fro the future. Cover another Frost design from AVRO Canada?

  • @Ob1sdarkside
    @Ob1sdarkside2 жыл бұрын

    It's a great looking plane and clips early in the vid make it look like it had great handling, pity it was a tad lethal. If Eric Brown says its a pig, you know it's fact

  • @scottwhite9575
    @scottwhite95752 жыл бұрын

    Just found your channel. Love it!

  • @adrianrutterford762
    @adrianrutterford7622 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for another interesting video

  • @catherineharris4746
    @catherineharris4746 Жыл бұрын

    Love this channel!💓👏👏👍👍

  • @oxcart4172
    @oxcart41722 жыл бұрын

    I read that the design was based on the Messerschmitt 163 Komet. They had a similar tendency to tuck under at high speeds

  • @randomnickify

    @randomnickify

    2 жыл бұрын

    They even called it Comet, not that subtle:)

  • @blackroberts6290

    @blackroberts6290

    2 жыл бұрын

    the Me 262, the first fighter jet fielded was also named Swallow (but in German)

  • @johnhagemeyer8578

    @johnhagemeyer8578

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yep I read they put a higher output rocket and it wouldn't go faster, just flipped, but it still has an amazing climbing numbers.

  • @wbertie2604

    @wbertie2604

    2 жыл бұрын

    Initial design work started before the end of the war and access to Me. 163 was possible. The UK did have its own research in this area, though, such as en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Handley_Page_Manx.

  • @JBofBrisbane

    @JBofBrisbane

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@randomnickify no, they called it the Swallow. The jet airliner was the Comet.

  • @nervo6321
    @nervo63213 күн бұрын

    Great research.

  • @1944GPW
    @1944GPW2 жыл бұрын

    Another great video Rex! Beautiful looking aircraft but I always thought it had too much wing area, considering it no longer carried the weight of the Vampire tail booms and empennage. If a foot or more had been lopped off each wingtip it may have been under less wing stress that lead to the crashes. But that's just my armchair conjecture.

  • @tonyraheja1
    @tonyraheja1Ай бұрын

    Very interesting... Thanks

  • @peterszar
    @peterszar2 жыл бұрын

    Don't forget Swallow's 1a, & 2a, ha ha. I love the way you put things into a concise manner. To heck with repeat formalities, excellent video's by the way. I see on the same page here, a thumbnail of Jet Flying Boats by another reliable source of aviation history. Take care adios

  • @bushidiru
    @bushidiru2 жыл бұрын

    Great video as always, I just wish you had included whether or not it could hold cargo so we would know whether it was a laden or unladen swallow.

  • @robertclegg2609

    @robertclegg2609

    2 жыл бұрын

    Wait a minute -- supposing TWO Swallows carried it TOGETHER.... Eh... nah... They'd have to have it on a line!

  • @dallesamllhals9161
    @dallesamllhals91612 жыл бұрын

    YAY! Finally Thé Swallow(deep) :-O Thanks Rex' ♥

  • @peterjohnson6273
    @peterjohnson6273 Жыл бұрын

    Always interesting, Rex. :>)

  • @carlrichards5207
    @carlrichards52072 жыл бұрын

    I would have gone with Eric's judgement. Eric was one bad ass individual. ✌️

  • @bigdmac33
    @bigdmac332 жыл бұрын

    [ 3:55 ] Interesting seeing the DH Mossies in the background to the Swallow Jet.

  • @sandervanderkammen9230

    @sandervanderkammen9230

    Жыл бұрын

    A very revealing clue to the cause of the _Swallow Disaster_ the antiquated de Havilland company was attempting to build supersonic jets at a time when it was still building its aircraft primarily from WOOD...

  • @ShroomKeppie
    @ShroomKeppie2 жыл бұрын

    Nevil Shute's "No Highway" is an interesting novel about the British aircraft industry. Almost the first airplane disaster story, one might say.

  • @1bert719

    @1bert719

    Жыл бұрын

    Quite a good movie featuring Jimmy Stewart too.

  • @heshshell
    @heshshell2 жыл бұрын

    Sorry babe, gonna have to cancel our plans, Rex's Hangar posted

  • @bigblue6917
    @bigblue69172 жыл бұрын

    During his career as a test pilot Geoffrey de Havilland wore the standard leather flying helmet. After his death some US test pilots, having heard about his death and its cause, sent some of the newer 'done dome' type helmets which US pilots had started to use in order to avoid any more such loses. Alexander Lippisch, the man behind the Me 163 had been in Britain but by the time they came to design the Swallow he was in America.

  • @junibug6790

    @junibug6790

    2 жыл бұрын

    Of course, no helmet in the world will save a pilot when their plane violently disintegrates mid-air, like de Havilland Jr's plane did.

  • @jamesbaker7112
    @jamesbaker71122 жыл бұрын

    I saw one of these, or something close, sitting in the weeds behind a hangar in Arizona. It was in a sad state and I was startled to see plywood in it's construction.

  • @brianedwards7142
    @brianedwards71422 жыл бұрын

    Experimental aircraft designer would be a great cover for a serial killer.

  • @paxpacis4274
    @paxpacis42742 жыл бұрын

    What is the airspeed velocity of an unladen swallow?

  • @TheAllMightyGodofCod

    @TheAllMightyGodofCod

    2 жыл бұрын

    European or African?

  • @randomnickify

    @randomnickify

    2 жыл бұрын

    I don't know that!

  • @markr2616

    @markr2616

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@randomnickify How do you know so much about swallows?

  • @hatman4818

    @hatman4818

    2 жыл бұрын

    apparently mach 1.04 just before hurdling to the ground with snapped wings.

  • @brianedwards7142
    @brianedwards71422 жыл бұрын

    12:30 The car in the bg shows how futuristic this design was at the time.

  • @nacerkhamou3149
    @nacerkhamou31492 жыл бұрын

    thank you

  • @delliardo583
    @delliardo5832 жыл бұрын

    The Sound barrier can't be that hard! *The Sound Barrier was very hard*

  • @JBofBrisbane

    @JBofBrisbane

    2 жыл бұрын

    "How hard could it be?" - Jeremy Clarkson.

  • @chrismartin3197
    @chrismartin31972 жыл бұрын

    If it was made with a Vampire nose (which was made of wood), it may have been the only (?) aircraft with major wood construction to go supersonic (or transonic)

  • @AllonKirtchik

    @AllonKirtchik

    2 жыл бұрын

    If a faster-than-sound wooden plane falls in a forest, does it make a sound?

  • @BrassLock

    @BrassLock

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@AllonKirtchik One wood expect it wood, but it's not a very sound theory 🥸

  • @Schlipperschlopper
    @Schlipperschlopper2 жыл бұрын

    The De Haviland Vampire and the English Electric Lightning are my favourite British jet fighters.

  • @Inpreesme
    @Inpreesme2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you

  • @tomshiba51
    @tomshiba512 жыл бұрын

    Nice plan-form, almost Horton-like.

  • @George_M_
    @George_M_2 жыл бұрын

    From the Bell X-3 school of "make it look cool and I'm sure it'll work fine"

  • @rexmundi3108
    @rexmundi31082 жыл бұрын

    Commander: here's your new plane Pilot: (swallow)

  • @johnhagemeyer8578
    @johnhagemeyer85782 жыл бұрын

    Welcome back from your Holiday. This another aircraft I knew absolutely nothing about. Thank you, it's kinda like in the Matrix...I know karate..... I know the Swallow..

  • @paulhaynes8045
    @paulhaynes80452 жыл бұрын

    Incidentally, you need new intro sounds, now we've reached the jet age! Perhaps the sound of one of the earliest jet engines? (Something a bit more interesting than the jets we're all used to these days - if such exists.)

  • @johnbenson4672
    @johnbenson46722 жыл бұрын

    Two minutes in sees design that will become the Comet. Sees square windows. Shakes head sadly.

  • @localbod

    @localbod

    2 жыл бұрын

    Indeed. Not a good idea. kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZKaq2o-rYszaoqg.html

  • @MothaLuva

    @MothaLuva

    2 жыл бұрын

    The square windows were not the problem…

  • @notfeedynotlazy

    @notfeedynotlazy

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@MothaLuva That's like the "guns don't kill, bullets do" joke. Yea, the problem was stress fractures around the rivets, but the square windows helped concentrate the stress and were the part that failed under stress. That definitely makes them part of the problem.

  • @philippejoncas7304
    @philippejoncas73042 жыл бұрын

    Although I know it's been pretty well covered I really hope you do a video on the Avro Arrow

  • @jasonz7788
    @jasonz77882 жыл бұрын

    Cool thanks

  • @paulfuller8985
    @paulfuller89852 жыл бұрын

    I have not seen it for about 30 years but there is a British movie about this that came out in the '50s . The movie is called " The Sound Barrier " . The film covers most of the issues covered in this video , but of course is 1950's melodramatic . It maybe on KZread somewhere . If you have time , maybe worth a look .

  • @AtheistOrphan

    @AtheistOrphan

    2 жыл бұрын

    Good film. I have the DVD but sadly it does not feature this aircraft. The ‘hero’ aircraft in the film is a Supermarine Swift.

  • @jeromewagschal9485
    @jeromewagschal94854 ай бұрын

    It's interesting that they called it "Swallow" when the ME-262 was called "Schwalbe" which also means Swallow... Great video 👍👍

  • @Katy_Jones
    @Katy_Jones2 жыл бұрын

    Interesting that they actually lengthened the Vampire fuselage, as the reason for its stubbiness in the first place was to keep the jet pipe as short as possible.

  • @JohnJohansen2
    @JohnJohansen22 жыл бұрын

    The Brabazon Committee was disastrous! As every time politicians interfered in developing aircrafts.

  • @drstrangelove4998
    @drstrangelove49982 жыл бұрын

    You should do a number on the wartime German tailless aircraft by Alexander Lippisch and the Horten Brothers, Rex.

  • @vladdrakul7851
    @vladdrakul78512 жыл бұрын

    Rex KEEP THE PROPELLOR intro! It is your own meme!

  • @treize6832
    @treize6832 Жыл бұрын

    Looks like someone at De Haviland looked at the Me-163 and thought "Hey, I can do that".

  • @electrolytics
    @electrolytics2 жыл бұрын

    De Havilland putting their own son up in the test pilot position. Speaks volumes of the incredible times these were in the Aerospace/Defense Industry. Giants of Men.

  • @mikepette4422
    @mikepette44222 жыл бұрын

    it looks amazing ! very much in the steps of the Me 162 Komet

  • @RemusKingOfRome
    @RemusKingOfRome2 жыл бұрын

    It looks so much like the German Comet although with larger wings.

  • @chrisknight6884

    @chrisknight6884

    2 жыл бұрын

    De Havilland copied the design from the Me 163, this being the fastest WW2 aircraft. But unfortunately also copied its flawed flying characteristics. The Me 163 had a speed limit of 1000 kph due to instability as it approached the speed of sound, the Germans were only too aware of this due to numerous testing accidents . The Swallow with more sophisticated aerodynamics was able to pass this barrier, but still ultimately only by a small margin before succumbing itself. This was the only de Havilland design that was not originally conceived in-house, and the test pilots paid the price. There are no short cuts in aviation.

  • @Pugiron

    @Pugiron

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hey, just because it was an exact copy doesn't mean it was an exact copy. They changed the K to a C

  • @sandervanderkammen9230

    @sandervanderkammen9230

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@chrisknight6884 I think you need to do some due diligence and properly research...

  • @philp8872
    @philp8872 Жыл бұрын

    Although inofficial, the first AC to break the sound barrier was the Me-163A.

  • @Nastyswimmer
    @Nastyswimmer2 жыл бұрын

    Other sources say that the crash of swallow 2 was the result of violent pitch oscillations that broke Geoffrey deHavilland's neck. Eric Brown in swallow 3 also experienced these oscillations but survived because he was shorter

  • @olsonspeed
    @olsonspeed2 жыл бұрын

    "If it looks good, it will fly good". Sadly the beautiful Swallow must be the exception to the rule.

  • @ymnchy
    @ymnchy2 жыл бұрын

    ありがとうございます!

  • @CaptHollister
    @CaptHollister2 жыл бұрын

    Obviously based on the Me163 Komet. The Komet flew well, but had a deadly motor and fuel. The Swallow had a good engine, but had deadly flight characteristics...

  • @trooperdgb9722

    @trooperdgb9722

    2 жыл бұрын

    The fact that it shared features does not indicate it was "based on" the 163. No doubt information ON other designs (like the 163 of course) was studied...but suggesting it was thus "based on" it is going too far...

  • @JohnyG29

    @JohnyG29

    2 жыл бұрын

    No, it was based off the Vampire as clearly stated in the video.

  • @bigblue6917

    @bigblue6917

    2 жыл бұрын

    Britain designed an aircraft which used the same engine to get the aircraft up to altitude before the jet engines took over. They discovered that by running the fuel through a silver plated mesh made it safe to use.

  • @CaptHollister

    @CaptHollister

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@JohnyG29 It wasn't "based" on the Vampire, it was built using Vampire bits. There is a difference. As an expedient they built it using components like the center pod from a Vampire with the landing gear from a Sea Venom. The end result could pass for a jet engined (instead of rocket engined) Komet. What made the Komet deadly for its pilots was the volatility of the propellants used to power its rocket engine, not its flight characteristics. Eric Brown who flew several different types of tailless aircraft, including the Swallow and Komet, said the Komet was the only one with good flight characteristics.

  • @Billhatestheinternet
    @Billhatestheinternet2 жыл бұрын

    That thing looks like a jet engined version of the Me 163.

  • @jamiec5565
    @jamiec55652 жыл бұрын

    The original design of the comet looks like a futuristic private jet. Otherwise, the swallow being basically the bastard child of an Me 163 and a Vampire was always going to be a nightmare.

  • @KapiteinKrentebol

    @KapiteinKrentebol

    2 жыл бұрын

    Eric Brown, one of the testpilots and who also flew the Me 163 after the war admitted the Me 163 was a big influence. Actually Eric Brown was very positive about the Me 163's flight performance, it was the rocket engine, volatile fuel and lack of a landing gear was what made that plane so dangerous.

  • @tauncfester3022

    @tauncfester3022

    2 жыл бұрын

    The DH108 had some designs features that were ahead of their times. Ejection seat, powered leading edge slats ratioed to the speed brakes/flaps, what was the big problem was the DeHavilland's obsession with setting speed records on an airframe they didn't understand the full aerodynamics of.

  • @amandastevenson4948
    @amandastevenson494810 ай бұрын

    I give the English credit for having the first supersonic flight with a usable power plant that still works to this day

  • @WilhelmKarsten

    @WilhelmKarsten

    9 ай бұрын

    The English did not have the first supersonic aircraft.. They would not have a supersonic jet until 1954.

  • @YanestraAgain
    @YanestraAgain2 жыл бұрын

    In other words a huge success for Great Britain.

  • @jacobmccandles1767
    @jacobmccandles17672 жыл бұрын

    Hindsight being 20/20 we can see why: as it pokes tgrough the sound barrier the leading edge of the wings will lose lift, the trailing edges then attempting to flip the plane a la MiG 19.

  • @sandervanderkammen9230

    @sandervanderkammen9230

    Жыл бұрын

    The DH-108 wasn't supersonic... they crashed like many de Havilland aircraft did, due to poor design and shoddy workmanship.

  • @hobbyhermit66
    @hobbyhermit66 Жыл бұрын

    Its shape reminds me of a foam glider I had when I was a kid. It was a yellowish color with a hook moulded into the belly, for launching by a rubber band on a stick. That would have been around 1975 or so.

  • @WilhelmKarsten

    @WilhelmKarsten

    10 ай бұрын

    With a similar tendency to crash land...

  • @rayburrow3986
    @rayburrow39862 жыл бұрын

    Although, of course, those square cabin windows have since been exonerated. The fuselage failure started in the roof, around a radio aerial panel.

  • @kiwitrainguy

    @kiwitrainguy

    Жыл бұрын

    Apparently the holes for the rivets were punched rather than drilled leading to weakness.

  • @Thomasnmi
    @Thomasnmi2 жыл бұрын

    As an aside, Vampire is a cool name for a plane.

  • @oldesertguy9616
    @oldesertguy96162 жыл бұрын

    It amazes me how small it was.

  • @paulhaynes8045
    @paulhaynes80452 жыл бұрын

    Very interesting. I've long wondered how the early jets were developed. Sad to see so many lives lost, though. It gives you a different perspective on test pilots - not so much dashing gung-ho jockeys, but people who flew knowing that they could easily pay the ultimate price. Interesting also to see the British air industry still carrying on after the war, much as it had done before, with not only individual companies still building high-tech prototypes, but the high-tech engines as well! A very different world.

  • @unclenogbad1509
    @unclenogbad15092 жыл бұрын

    YES! Avrocar! Do the Avrocar - PLEASE.

  • @sonnyburnett8725
    @sonnyburnett87252 жыл бұрын

    The U.S. Navy complained about the Bell X-1 being air launched only resulting in the Air Force performing a runway takeoff high speed run and landing.

  • @Martin-on2pp
    @Martin-on2pp Жыл бұрын

    In the beginnjng you tell us there will be a video about the Brabazon committie. Have I missed it???

  • @NaCl1252
    @NaCl12522 жыл бұрын

    My great uncle flew in this aircraft to as a test pilot, but he unfortunately crashed when performing an air show. RIP Sqdn Ldr Stuart Muller-Rowland

  • @MothaLuva
    @MothaLuva2 жыл бұрын

    It’s beautiful…

  • @russchadwell
    @russchadwell2 жыл бұрын

    World's first true aeroplane to break the sound barrier... I'm seeing a trend forming.

  • @topquark6242
    @topquark62422 жыл бұрын

    The Bell X-1 actually did one take off from the ground though it did not go supersonic on that flight. It was a 'jab' at Douglas, not De Havilland.

  • @fafner1

    @fafner1

    2 жыл бұрын

    Chuck Yeager in his autobiobraphy claims the X-1 did go supersonic in that flight. The point was to beat the Douglas Skyrocket, which in its initial version had both a jet and a rocket engine and took off from the ground.

  • @tarmaque
    @tarmaque2 жыл бұрын

    To quote Deadpool: "I've never said this before, but don't _Swallow."_

  • @stevenr2463
    @stevenr24632 жыл бұрын

    Hm. Interesting. Had forgotten about this one. My father was in the drawing office at de Havilland from the war till about 1952/53 (sabbatical) and then again from 1954 to 1957. He never spoke much about what he did. But as what was left of Britain was mortgaged to the Yanks and they were preventing all they could, he saw no future in the English air industry and did something completely different as from 1957. Even AVRO Canada was "wound up" by the Yanks. Guess my father was right.

  • @nickdanger3802

    @nickdanger3802

    2 жыл бұрын

    Here is some reality for you FH. HMG had sufficient funds for the Bristol Barbizon luxury airliner, Saunders Roe luxury flying boat, Avro Tudor, DH Comet jet liner, De Havilland DH108 'Swallow' and Blackburn Beverly military transport. And the 1948 Olympics, free health care, subsidized housing and the Canberra bomber which was sold to the USA as was the RR Nene jet engine after it was virtually given to the USSR.

  • @nickdanger3802

    @nickdanger3802

    2 жыл бұрын

    As of 2006 Britain still owed the USA 4.4 Billion 1934 USD in WWI debt. In 1945 21 Billion USD of Britain's Lend Lease debt was written off and Canada and the USA loaned Britain almost 5 Billion USD at 2 percent of 50 years with first payment deferred to 1951. 1948-52 Britain received 2.7 Billion USD under the Marshall Plan (ERP).

  • @malcontender6319

    @malcontender6319

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, Uncle Sam became a bit of a kleptomaniac post-war.

  • @nickdanger3802

    @nickdanger3802

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@malcontender6319 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_history_of_the_United_Kingdom#18th_century

  • @timp3931

    @timp3931

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes, always blame the Americans for your failures. the Arrow was cancelled for being too expensive. Canada rarely likes to spend much dough on defence. It was APCs and Destroyers only in the early 60s, but that doesn't make a (bad) movie.

  • @davidramsay-kerr1959
    @davidramsay-kerr19592 жыл бұрын

    I remember Geoffrey de Havilland being killed - I was quite cut-up about it. But for years and years I wrongly believed that he was flying a prototype of DH110.

  • @ridleymain9234
    @ridleymain92342 жыл бұрын

    This episode was a lot to swallow

  • @GeneralJackRipper
    @GeneralJackRipper2 жыл бұрын

    They wanted to put PASSENGERS in a TAILLESS aircraft in the 1940's?! Absolute madlads.

  • @steveshoemaker6347
    @steveshoemaker63472 жыл бұрын

    Thanks very much....Shoe🇺🇸

  • @Aengus42

    @Aengus42

    2 жыл бұрын

    Eh? Shoe what?

  • @bentilbury2002

    @bentilbury2002

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Aengus42 He's signing his name.

  • @awathompson
    @awathompson2 жыл бұрын

    It is reported that the F86 flown by George Welch was the first to break the sound barrier in a dive on Oct 14th, 1947 earlier in the same day that Chuck Yeager officially broke the sound barrier and a sonic boom was reported. But this was not confirmed.

  • @mausermann7918
    @mausermann7918 Жыл бұрын

    No doubt heavily inspired by the ME 163...

  • @dylanmilne6683
    @dylanmilne66832 жыл бұрын

    The Most Beautiful Death Trap | De Havilland D.H 108 Swallow

  • @starsailor49
    @starsailor492 жыл бұрын

    Maybe the addition of a tail may have solved the handling issues?

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