What do you think of this off-grid water heater? Have you seen or used any propane-free off-grid water heaters? Thanks for watching!

@ROL2023

6 жыл бұрын

Well i have mixed feelings. Any clue how long ive been trying to figure out how to do a portable heating system w out lp? Lmao of course KZread to the rescue. Smh...lmao

@afiah2o

6 жыл бұрын

It’s unclear what this stove is made of - is it concrete with extra sand? Or clay with grog (ground up pre-fired clay to avoid cracking)? I would be nervous to put the heated water back into a plastic tank in a cyclical system. A food grade steel barrel may be safer... is there an overflow valve and a pressure valve on the tank? Thanks for posting this. Interesting!

@afiah2o

6 жыл бұрын

Micha EL can someone post the recipe for the insulated cement?

@bb1111116

6 жыл бұрын

Exploring Alternatives; burning wood? Is not sustainable except for a very small group of users.

@ronnie-being-ronnie

6 жыл бұрын

bb1111116 The rocket mass stove and heaters use a fraction of the wood used in traditional wood burning devices, including the new ones that are supposed to be more efficient. The bonus is that they also make good use of small pieces of wood...no logs required, so that means more sustainable as dead branches and brush are good. Fouch Family live in Idaho and heat a small home with RMH. They run a burn in the am and it keeps the house comfortable until the next morning. I would love to see if someone would do an experiment: shred and compress the waste matter that comes from crops...corn or other grain stalks, for example, do not really add much nutrients to soil, and do not make good fodder for animals.

I built this and it works amazing! It took me 3 days and i documented it for sharing. If you want to see it come down. Our water gets to 140f or 60c and stays hot for hours! This video inspired me. Thank you!

@kittiesandcolas7957

2 ай бұрын

That's awesome! I got to ask, how often (and how) do you clean the copper? 🐱🌱

This has been used in New Zealand for at least 100 years and the coils are often built in to the back of a wood stove. The system is called a “wet back” water heater (not a slur) and it is important for the tank to be close to the fire. You can use a regular hot water tank with a relief valve and a set of cut off valves. In the summer the system is closed off and electricity can be used to heat the water. In the winter the power is turned off and the valves opened and the coil in the back of the wood stove fire box, or embedded coil in the fire masonry will heat the tank. Bullet proof system.

@andrewford80

6 жыл бұрын

Stephen Lockie limited to rural properties now tho right?

@andrewford80

6 жыл бұрын

Geenine44 looks like it's council specific. Some councils don't allow them unless rural

@newbrunswick12345

6 жыл бұрын

andrewford80 the system does produce more particles in the burn as the water does cool the process slightly, but highly efficient woodstoves are still within the limits set by many councils.

@Geenine44

6 жыл бұрын

Are you thinking of coal range or cooking stoves Andrew? If they can be multi fuelled then yes it can only be used in rural areas. But many are now wood only with the perks and features of the range. Grew up using a coal range so was glad to come across the Pyroclassic Fires. May as well get as many uses out of the wood as possible now that I’m having to pay for it.

@Finke.

6 жыл бұрын

Just another gravity fed donkey ... nothing at all new about this concept & has been used in Australia since before God's dog died ... I've built a few ... www.google.com/search?q=donkey+hot+water+system+diagram&client=firefox-b&sa=X&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&ved=0ahUKEwj__7r18o3bAhWEybwKHYchC1YQsAQIKA&biw=1366&bih=611

My Dad made something like this, but on a much larger scale maybe 5 or more years ago. He learned about rocket stoves on KZread and came up with a system of how to heat the water for our home. He also made sular pannels that heat our water with sunlight. I haven't had a cold shower in years.

@mattinvic1

Жыл бұрын

Pictures or detail if you would be so kind.

@williamrhodes6343

4 ай бұрын

That would be great to see in a video. Have you guys put your own video on youtube?

@VladFredK

4 ай бұрын

THAT IS TOO BAD cold shower is actually very good for you

I lived on a boat 40 years ago, and we heated the boat with this same principal. We had a small coal stove instead of the rocket stove, but essentially it worked the same way. Up on deck was the water tank and it gravity fed water down to the stove which heated the copper water pipes which then ran around the boat and back to the tank on the upper deck. It worked really well. I'm so glad to see this rocket stove. I'm going to build myself one!

I have always wanted to try the coil on my wood stove. Capturing thermal energy and storing it in water has lots of uses! That build is perfectly artistic. Great job.

Love the rocket stove! I’ve made a few off grid, log fired hot tubs and a few things I’ve noted to help the thermosiphon ( and maybe some people watching this video ) the bottom pipe taking the cold water to the fire wants to be running slightly down hill. The coil around the heat source wants to be going uphill continually, and the exit pipe wants to be going slightly uphill. You can add a small solar powered pump to speed it up even more. On my current set up, with the pump running i can heat 700l of water to 40c from 5c in around 2/3 hours.

@milkymeats

2 жыл бұрын

Oh man. That sounds fabulous! Would you be able to send me in the right direction for building a decent log fired hot tub? I have a dead spar shell id love to hear up or a humble bath.

@WilliamPurcellHotshotCustom

5 ай бұрын

Do you put the pump at the cold input/ at the tank or does it matter?

This is almost IDENTICAL to a space heater I wanted to build. LOVE it.

Wonderful, thanks! It would be even greater to see the building process

Rocket Stove Institute is working on home heating systems as well! So exciting to see these experiments happening in different places around the world

This is such an amazing rocket stove! Sebastien and Isabelle are inspirational--true models for how to live simply and create a fulfilling life. Also, thank you for bringing innovative ideas to the general public.

@newbrunswick12345

6 жыл бұрын

Christina Elliott they are doing great things. I really enjoyed their earthbag build video.

You stirred my creativity.I have read somewhere and it is my favourite quote...If you stirrer your creativity,possibilities are endless.

What a great idea - love this concept. Great video and thanks for sharing.

Dude that is really cool! Thanks for sharing! Sending love to Kbek from Ontario!

Fantastic - just exactly what I've been looking for. I'm about to build a rocket stove in my front yard and this is a logical extension for hot water in winter.

@VladFredK

4 ай бұрын

are you brain dead? this is such a B S

What a beautiful place to live. Reminds me of all the camping and my younger years. great idea.

Inspirational, thanks for sharing the vid and giving a concise explanation of how it works. It would have been handy to see some temperature values but for a proof of concept it's great.

I really like the design and function of this rocket stove. Thanks for sharing!

Absolutely amazing. I'm gonna try this at our hunting camp in ohio. We usually just use baby wipes to clean up during our week long hunting trips. This would make it a whole lot more bearable. 4 to 5 guys in a small trailer gets a little funky at about day 3. Thanks for the great idea.

This is GREAT. Simple and efficient. Thank you for sharing!

What was really cool about the heater was the way it is multifunctional, cheap and energy saving! Great!

This was extremely interesting. Thoroughly enjoyed what you said. Also environmentally friendly.

@uncledoug9999

6 жыл бұрын

interesting yes. educational, NO. Also not environmentally friendly; you need a real "rocket stove" for that. U-tube "Winiarski Rocket Stove" for learning.

@lmeza1983

5 жыл бұрын

Nothing is environmental friendly about burning stuff.

great idea!

We need more and more of this! Sustainability is the the only way! Closed loop systems are the best way!

Wish I would have thought of that. So simple. Thanks 4 posting.

This would be great for an outdoor shower! Thanks

@danielkowalski8555

5 жыл бұрын

No shower during winter, summer only.

You both are amazing people . We over here , admire you way so so much. You both are adding value to society, proud to share your ideas / your creativity/ and your beautiful vedio with others. Beautiful job :)

@ExploringAlternatives

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much for the super positive vibes Nima :) :)

@stevenfeil7079

5 жыл бұрын

"We"? You have a mouse in your pocket?

When i was a kid back then we had the old back boiler coal fire down stairs boiler up stairs same idea and works very well nice to see the old ideas are still out there.

Wow that's different thanks for sharing

Really great idea they had there!

@octaviusgalacticus2253

3 жыл бұрын

OMG CANADIAN PREPPER

@jasonberry4504

3 жыл бұрын

Ever tried living with one. Prepper for disappointment.😗

@andhewonders

10 ай бұрын

​@@jasonberry4504Raise the flue height, optimum is 6 meters, roughly 20ft.

This is so so cool! What an amazing idea. Thanks for sharing.

Thank you for this footage and thank the people who invented or braucht to live this this technique! Find this idea marvellous! :)

First time ever hearing or seeing AWESOME idea

Wow quelle idée géniale et c'est made in Québec! 😀👍🏻

I love it

So epic, thank you for sharing

WOW the things people come up with so flipping amazing

these people are so cool!!!!!

@uncledoug9999

6 жыл бұрын

is it cool to misinform? or just not understand?

@johndoe-io8fh

6 жыл бұрын

neither one is cool...not understanding is a form of ignorance and misinformation can be a form of deception or displaced innocence...

Need a video on how they made the rocket stove.

@partygoer0078

5 жыл бұрын

you are so right, the person should also put on youtube a video for building his rocket hot water heater.

@modelnutty6503

5 жыл бұрын

@ I garden because I have to , know it's a fireproof clay sand cement mix of some sort, the top shape can be determined how you like for using the copper pipe/tubing as the form for shaping the clay to, so there's room for really improving on something like this one shown here. rectangular transitioning into a cone shape is my idea in mind at the moment, with one chunk of angle iron across in a V to blast the heat into the mass more directly and by conduct conduction both.

@cherriemckinstry131

5 жыл бұрын

Yes.. the diameter of the main flue hole and feeder hole for comparison.

@cherriemckinstry131

5 жыл бұрын

@Cerberus why does the top need to be constricted? I'm learning..

@OffgridSecrets

5 жыл бұрын

I made one. Hit my bubble.

Wonderful experiment i congratulate couple for this marvelous innovation and sacrifice and struggle they did meanwhile their research period

Great,I am going to build it at my friend's farm! Thanks!

Instead of using the blue container wake use an old water heater that would have better insulation to keep the hot water hotter longer and work off the same principle

@RebelMafia2.0

5 жыл бұрын

The problem is this we got an old water heater? Where is the down side cause that sucker is flush how do I rise the heater

@koitorob

4 жыл бұрын

Google the definition of the word PROTOTYPE and that will answer your question

@silveradotow957

4 жыл бұрын

@@RebelMafia2.0 bill a platform fer it

Would have been nice to include a thermostat or thermometer to show how long it takes for it to reach optimal temperatures.

@josephrupert6090

5 жыл бұрын

Smart Biz Web Media he said about two hours.

Amazing engineering thank you ♥️💯

Such an amazing idea! So creative and still very simple! Thank you! 🙏🤗🙌

Would be great to fully insulate the water tank and the copper pipes with adobe as well... even better to build a separate cooker and make the chimney 4 or 5 times taller (perhaps in stackable sections) to make the same amount of wood heat about 10 times more water.

Try lagging the pipes also try putting up heat gauge an pressure gauge also measure you flow an return pipe work to calculate heat loss and yes definitely insulate the you water drum aka cylinder

Wow what a simple and super clever good job 👍

Thanks for the video. I'm going to try that. Awesome idea thanks

I've seen a similar idea where they ran tubing through a composting pile and that naturally heated the water, plus the compost kept continually warming itself.

@bobbyhempel1513

5 жыл бұрын

MarkBTW that is a great idea too I'm not sure how hot it would get but warm is better than cold at any rate.

@nathanrogers8713

5 жыл бұрын

Compost piles can easily run 180 degrees so it is possible for them to get very hot. More than a few compost piles have spontaneously combusted.

@andrewtowell6074

5 жыл бұрын

@@bobbyhempel1513 hot enough to burn your hand if you leave it in there lol Pile needs to be 20-25% fresh manure

@Utube75

5 жыл бұрын

is this in cold country as well?

@danielkowalski8555

5 жыл бұрын

Can the compost be dumped directly to the barrel inside, instead of running copper pipes?

Wow this is really brilliant. I'm going to do this :) Thank you so much guys :)

Thank you very much. Awesome invention!!!! GOD bless you folks.

One can really see how the rocket stove works with this compact design.

Since I intend to have a green house someday, I wanted to know your opinion on how well this would do for heating the greenhouse. I think it would be excellent. I've also considered a large compost heap in the center of the greenhouse. But I don't see any reason why I couldn't combine the two. Perhaps even using the compost heap as an insulator for the Barrel.

@practicalskills2253

Жыл бұрын

compost heap as insulator is actually a genius idea! love it

Ausome!! Small enough to be portable to some degree - able to give heat, cooking and hot water. Nicely done!!

Amaizing! Love it!

Four questions, which I invite anyone to answer: 1) Should the coils be set a certain distance into the cobb, to avoid melting the copper, even though it has water flowing through it? 2) What would be the best composition of the cobb, to prevent cracking; esp. if the coils are embedded into the cobb? 3) If the stack were coated with water glass, to reduce cracking, would that insulate the coils too much to be efficient? 4) What would be the needed cure time before this would be usable, during cool weather? I appreciate any constructive input I can get! I'm facing yet another winter without hot water; and, long hot soaks are the only relief I have to the chronic pain I live with. (I REFUSE to allow the medical mafia to turn me into one of their junkies!!!)

If they built this into part of their underfloor heating system it would work very well.

@garywheeler7039

5 жыл бұрын

That implies it would be lower than the floor of the house however, and its a pretty small boiler system.

There's nothing I enjoy more on a cold winters morning than cooking soup and having a tepid shower outside..... Bravo Monsieur Bravo

Gracias por la idea. Felicitaciones que genial. Saludos desde Venezuela.

Would have been nice to see how it was constructed.

@savagefoxdesigns6692

5 жыл бұрын

You saying you cant figure it out from this description? The stove is made from dirt and cob mixed with water to turn it into a putty then formed and left to dry. It takes some time to let each layer dry. The stove itself is a very simple design. The only original concept here is forming a coil with copper tubing for the top section of the stove. It might be a rocket stove but its not rocket science! Simple thermodynamics! Genius I love it and will be building my own! Eventually!

@2bczar4u

5 жыл бұрын

Yes, me and 7 others would have liked to have seen it actually being built. I have built other smaller rocket stoves but not like this. Sheesh!

@analogdistortion

5 жыл бұрын

2bczar4u: Youuu filthy mouth!

@dennismitchell5276

5 жыл бұрын

The Savage Method except cob will crack and decay under high heat. It can dissolve in water and rain. Different proportions work better than others. Do you need to feed it constantly? Just saying it is only an advert for the concept. A steam explosion is deadly so if you are going to play around with it you better have a damn good idea of how to play safe. Luckily other productions are more educational.

@Mk101T

4 жыл бұрын

@Sharron Clark So "Brilliant" in the title is click bait ?

I feel like all these people need to visit the old soviet block homes and see how they build ovens. They're so efficient.

What a unique product. These videos are so helpful.

Brilliant concept.

That was interesting. Do you know what the temp of the water was coming off the stove and back into the tank. It looks like the hot water could lose some heat going back to the tank through the flexible hose. I suppose you could put pipe insulation on it to prevent that.

@Thalanox

6 жыл бұрын

This prototype, which we were told was an unoptimized prototype, is not optimized yet.

@arunseigell7361

5 жыл бұрын

Its only a PROTOTYPE & NOT THE FINISHED PERFECT PRODUCT

Love the concept, seems to me they could improve the idea by insulating the stove with wood ash and clay walls. Something like the Indian Tandori ovens only a smaller top opening, more coils would mean lessor heat times so a taller chimney would help.

@arunseigell7361

5 жыл бұрын

Kelly Richardson It is like a tandoor -its made of daub

Thats cool! gonna experiment with that to heat water at my OTG camp! THanks!

very efficient and nice looking heating&cooking system. Great. I like it!

Superbe! Es-tu québécois d'origine ?

@sebastiencote7134

6 жыл бұрын

Oui

Paint the water barrel black and get free solar heating. :D

@Rebecca-fs2rg

6 жыл бұрын

May allow bacteria growth, maybe with a clear top to let the UV sterilize it.

@remyllebeau77

6 жыл бұрын

Or maybe if it isn't used for drinking you could chemically treat it.

@andrewtowell6074

5 жыл бұрын

It works well if you coil up black hose on the flat roof of a garage or something but be careful it can burn you too.

@MrTangent

5 жыл бұрын

Freddy McIntire UV sterilization of certain microbes works, dude. Google Steripen.

@Unicron4ever

5 жыл бұрын

@k johnson Canadian Winter disagrees with you...

Wow, wow, wow!!!! One worth share on Facebook!!👍🏾❤😍😀

@lourdesabreu4107

3 жыл бұрын

Marina agregará algo pero no sé nada en inglés y veo el video por la imagen pero no entiendo nada porque es en inglés yo hablo español

@ritabroils6190

3 жыл бұрын

@@lourdesabreu4107 Sorry I don't understand Spanish.

This is exactly what I was looking for!

I like this. No technique is "off grid" if you always have to keep buying fuel for it.

we have been using these in Australia since colonization. we call them Donkey heater

@mauriceupton1474

4 жыл бұрын

Back in the day all New Zealand homes had them, they called them boosters even homes with electricity still had a booster stove that you can heat hot water and cook on just in case your electricity went out. God knows why greenies want all of us to revert backwards.

@brucea550

4 жыл бұрын

It’s not reverting (backwards- redundant) it’s being ecologically responsible.

@mauriceupton1474

4 жыл бұрын

@@brucea550 Greenies can be eco-friendly for themselves, but when they force their ideas onto me..it changes from responsibility to dictatorship.

@Dadsezso

4 жыл бұрын

@@brucea550 Many rocket stoves can be fueled with twigs and limbs that have fallen off trees but, once you would have a much larger demand for fuel to burn then the greenies would be griping about deforestation from people cutting trees for cooking and heating their homes.

@brucea550

4 жыл бұрын

Doubt it. Wood is a renewable resource. Easy to plant new trees as fast or faster than you cut them down.

EXCELLENT .LIKED THAT THE STOVE IS MADE OF DAUB SO ITS ABSOLUTELY GREEN

Thanks very good God bless you I will try in my Farm

What type of clay/cob did they use to make this rocket stove?

@danielji2742

3 жыл бұрын

Adobe?

Recommend those pipes are lagged or insulated and to use a stainless steel tank that’s also insulated if he wants to continue with this system. But why not invest in a wood burner that’s designed for this purpose? The wood used will do three jobs, water, cooking and heating a home with less fuel. A good appliance these days will also be clean burning with the right design.

@newbrunswick12345

6 жыл бұрын

Geenine44 nailed it.

This is great. In my home country we would use a broken boiler for many years with wood to heat up water.

Awesomely educational, gratitude for that!

This is a brilliant concept. How can I learn this and teach people in Nigeria where I live?

@More_Row

6 жыл бұрын

Some sort of engineering school would probably be your thing, then you could start teaching after that.

@littlepotato2741

6 жыл бұрын

James, there are many different designs for rocket stoves on the internet that you can look at. And many of those go more into design and what you need to do (and type of materials you need) in order to build the rocket stove yourself. Then you need tubing that you can shape and can hold up to intense temperatures. So pretty much metal tubing to stand up to that heat. Copper tubing is often used because it's soft enough to bend yourself with minimal tools and has a very good resistance to rust, etc. The water flow is due to the thermosiphon that he mentioned. Wikipedia has a nice page on it with pictures and everything.

@More_Row

6 жыл бұрын

Get that crazy talk out of here.

@terryfrederickson2774

6 жыл бұрын

its 2018, you should not have to teach them anything by now

@jamesattanah9699

6 жыл бұрын

Jabo ti bog thank you for calling me a dummy. God bless you. You don't know me and you didn't create me so you have no right to call me a dummy. Whoever taught you to speak and use the Internet never taught you properly.

We have this stove from decades in Indian 😆

Excellent! Heating copper piping up to warm the water is such a good idea. If ever I had a swimming pool built I would have the filter feed water through coiled copper piping on a roof so the water heats up in the sun.

Wow! That's incredible!

you have nothing in thermomass here my friend ... but the rest is good

@robertfitzgerald8647

3 жыл бұрын

@🌟༻🅹🅰🆈🅵🅰༺ ✓ • 5 years ago people make rocket stoves out of metal I'm pretty sure the thermal mass doesn't make it a rocket stove

@robertfitzgerald8647

3 жыл бұрын

I've seen the metal ones melt down and people having problems with those which is fixed by using better and thicker steel that can handle it. Metal radiates heat, masonry/ceramic stores heat. Ideally there'd be a bit of both.

@EmmanuelBelart

3 жыл бұрын

@🌟༻🅹🅰🆈🅵🅰༺ ✓ • 5 years ago radiation conduction and convection it is basic physic

@EmmanuelBelart

3 жыл бұрын

@🌟༻🅹🅰🆈🅵🅰༺ ✓ • 5 years ago are you kiding me, I teach you about simple thinks, what troll are you, come on...

Neat idea but directly heating the water is probably more efficient.

@KnowstheFuture

6 жыл бұрын

directly heating water via copper tubing in the flu....that's pretty darn direct heating.

@davidriley7659

6 жыл бұрын

:( water puts on the fire if you apply directly

@garrycole9187

6 жыл бұрын

I think the idea is creating a water heater where you then can have hot water when needed. It is a no-brainer to just heat water, that has been done for centuries.

@kurtz260

6 жыл бұрын

Just change out the barrel to metal, then place it a foot or two above the rocket stove on a metal rack. You would get the heat through the exchanger and the heat from being directly over the fire too. But you better have a safety pop off valve or you may have an explosion due to the pressure

@davidriley7659

6 жыл бұрын

War Monger - are you thinking of a dual pipe design, where the water travels between the two pipes (sealed obviously) - similar to a kelly kettle?

I made something like this years ago but I used welded steel tubing instead of adobe. Very cool.

Thank you. Love it.

Is it just me or does that thing look like a bong

You call it a rocket stove, I call it a rocket bong.

Amazing I love the smooth concrete

That one is awesome. Need to build something like that. Greetings from Andreas on Off Grid Sweden

Stoners must drool at this video Look a giant bong

@mkteku

5 жыл бұрын

U a stoner?

1:06 when nerds talk dirty

@seven9399

4 жыл бұрын

Feed her hole and start fire in her bottom.. I did that and now she dont answer my calls

Very cool. Great job

Clever design, beautiful finished product. Artisticly functional. 👍👍👍👍Four fumbsup!

C'est simplement GÉNIAL..BRAVO.

Neat. Thanks for sharing.

How could anyone...NOT like this?

@Johny40Se7en

3 ай бұрын

If someone's a head or part of a an energy company LOL 😅😝

Thank you very much for providing this beautiful Idea, it's very useful and I lived it.