Brilhart Ebolin Mouthpieces Return! A Comparative Review with the Original
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Jim takes a look at the recently released Brilhart Ebolin Carlsbad Alto Mouthpiece, comparing it with an authentic 1950s model and his personal Meyer, to evaluate its performance.
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⏰Timestamps ⏰
0:00 Intro
0:47 Short Playing Clip
1:19 The History of Brilhart
2:41 A close look at the Mouthpiece
4:02 Original Brilhart / New Brilhart Comparison
6:43 New Brilhart / Meyer Comparison
9:49 Verdict
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The NEW Brilhart is about 5 to 6 times the price of the ones sold in the 90’s . I still have my size 5 purchased in the mid 90’s it was about $32 USD . $192 for a plastic mouthpiece is absurd considering the Yamaha 4/5/6 C mouthpieces . Adding an etched serial number does not constitute a 5,6,7 times price increase .
@benhostetler268
6 ай бұрын
You’re paying for the hand finishing. I have a tenor size 7 and it plays great.
@WillStonier
6 ай бұрын
It's not the 1990s anymore
@maexmaestermann471
6 ай бұрын
very true...they just are after the money
@dragonknite314
6 ай бұрын
They were $50 until a few years ago when Dr Wally reviewed it on his channel
@benhostetler268
6 ай бұрын
@@dragonknite314 those aren’t the same. The ones you’re referring to aren’t not made from the original molds and they had little to no hand finishing.
My first mouthpiece ever was a Brilhart and I totally enjoyed it. The people I used to practice with told me that it was not cool to play with that mouthpiece anymore (I was a kid at the time) and I was peer-pressured to change to a Vandoren Jumbo Java a45. This video takes me right back to those days. lol
I was planning to buy this mouthpiece since when they re released it, it was very affordable, but now I was shocked to see the difference in price hahaha
Great review. Fingers crossed they reproduce the white tonalin next. Still praying for a blue jumbo java for tenor tho as the jumbo java is my weapon of choice!
I've owned many Brilharts and the variation in the body of the mouthpiece, window length, baffle or relatively no baffle is wide. Any of these could make a difference from someone's favorite to a backup piece. I have to yet find 2 that play and feel exactly alike. Current production is likely to be consistent but finding a new to replace a vintage has always been hard.
@XavierJordanMusic
6 ай бұрын
I 100% agree with you
this caught my attention real quick. I used to use this mouthpiece on bari and have never heard or seen it anywhere else
Clicked here for a quick MP review, but stayed long time to copy/practice some beautiful phrasings 😊 👏👏
Ed Pillinger makes a wonderful Brilhart type mouthpieces. He calls it the CP. My student bought one and it plays better than my 50s tonalin
My teacher told me a story about the old Brilhart mold machine back when I took lessons in the early seventies, as I had one of the old Ebolin alto models which he was fond of, probably from the 50s. The old ones had a serial number. (40s-60s?) The company sold the rights to produce to another company and in the process of moving the machine it was dropped and was broke. The newer ones had no number and were more inconsistent. My teacher would just say the new ones were not any good and he could not find any he liked. Now these new ones have a serial number and are made from the original mold? I have only this story from Joseph Allard about the original machine and mold. It was interesting to hear this story from you Jim, as it took me back.
Great video Jim! The Meyer sounds best to me. Question; Which Meyer model is that?
Awesome!
Well, Jim, I liked the sounds of all of them... yes, the Meyer sounds richer, but I like the new Brilhart too. Need to try several reeds, as you said. Great review!
@jimcheek304
6 ай бұрын
Thank you
I would love to go visit the store
@saxworldwide
6 ай бұрын
Please come on down - or across....etc
Jim, nice review! Please, what is the tip opening you tested? And, I liked when you mentioned differences in materials at the end-everything else being equal, is it your opinion that the material influences the sound production/ playing , please? Thanks
@saxworldwide
6 ай бұрын
The tip was a 6. I think it's a combination of all things mentioned, the material being part of it.
@Marcosls2015
6 ай бұрын
@@saxworldwide thanks for the reply and the great job presenting all these equipments to us!
i agree a neutral sound is what they give and and as long as i played them this has been so.
Thanks Jim, and I could see that you were working a bit harder to get the Brilharts working in tune. But, not a great deal of difference in the sound really. It’s good that Selmer have brought back the name and an opportunity for people to buy into a big bit of history at a reasonable price. I’ve played Brilharts since 1981 and love them but, I use the Metal Level-Airs and, I have four of them and seven Rico Royal Graftinites and Metalites. Yes, for me they are reed fussy and I get the best out of them with La Voz and Rico Orange Box. I play Lawtons these days but just somehow I love my Tenor Mark 2 Metal Level-Air 7* … which I can’t replace and certainly not with a 9. Brilharts are all fairly bright anyway. Ron.
Are patches recommended for this mouthpiece?
Yessssssssss 🎉
If you like a darker sound the Brilhart is for you. I have one of the new Brilharts for Tenor and I really like it.
I’m with you Jim, but vive la difference. There will always be people who rave about Brilharts and that’s cool. If they’re comfortable, great! 😊
@saxworldwide
6 ай бұрын
You got it Jamie!
I´ve a Claude Lakey 7*3 , vintage one, sounds like Brilhart Ebolin. Its plastic made . Can you tell me about some models to up grade.
I wonder if the they will reissue the Streamline model too.
Do you have plans to record a review of the tenor Brilhart?
Nice review. I can hear what you prefer in the Meyer. But then again I consider them as completely different mouthpiece designs. Of the number of older Brilhart Ebolins and Tonalins I have had and still have none of them sounded the same. Some play incredible and some played just dull and uninspiring or needed more work to get the sound you'd like. Maybe that has not changed either. I happen to love Brilharts and I think it is worth the effort to try several until you find the one that fits you. But then again I am talking tenor mouthpieces here.
@saxworldwide
6 ай бұрын
Interesting perspective - thank you
I played a vintage white Brillhart for years (an expensive one, not the janky 3* black one that came stock with new saxes in those days). It was an incredibly good jazz mouthpiece. Sadly it developed a crack and I switched to a Meyer.
Fun fact: the word brilhart can be read as a Portuguese language word. Its a junction of two words, "brilho" witch means shine, and "arte" witch means art. So for Portuguese speakers the word can be understood as "The art of shine" but pay attention! The pronunciation of "brilhart" in Portuguese is slightly different, and a i cant describe here.
I would say your Meyer sounds much better than the Brilhart offering. Your Meyer has a full rich tone to it in comparison to the Brilhart. That factor might be attributed to the materials they are offered in, plastic vs ebonite. The cost aspect factor has to be part of the evaluation as well. The Brilhart is a bargain. Now to bring in another MP that you evaluated just last week I believe. The Selmer Paris Jazz Flow. To my ear, you sounded just brilliant on that MP, even better than your trusty Meyer. I do appreciate your honest review as always. Thank You
@saxworldwide
6 ай бұрын
Hi Richard. And yes, in fact we recorded both these videos in the same day - my experience on the Selmer Jazz Flow was quite different to that of the Brilhart. By the end of the day, my head was spinning and needed to have a lie down!
@richardjones990
6 ай бұрын
I can just feel your pain!!!@@saxworldwide
I honestly thought the new brilly sounded the best. Clear buzzy and slightly bright. My opinion and preference of course. I have a few of these, some vintage with serial numbers and some were later production from like 20 years ago. None of them play the same, lots of variation, but when they’re good, they’re great. Curious to see how the new versions hold up
@kaivrock
6 ай бұрын
What the fu#k is a “brilly”?
And went from USD 50 to USD 200.......ufff.................why is there no 8 or 9 opening? 0.075 is very close...
Please correct my history if I have it wrong, but wasn’t plastic considered the new premium material compared to rubber for a time? AB was certainly a pioneer of MP design, but with the evolution of designs and playing styles these maybe haven’t held up as well as, say, the soloists.
What about the tenor mouthpiece ?
Wow! Talk about a huge "why??", this is it. The vintage model is darker but both of the Brilharts are S-P-R-E-A-D! Holy Cow, Jim, you're a great player and when even YOU sound out of tune, which you do on the Brilharts, there's a real problem with that.
@Marcosls2015
6 ай бұрын
Agreed- it sounded like the notes were skidding!
Charlie Parker played a tonalin streamline model.
Just a comment about tip rails. Mouthpieces with really thin tip rails, while perhaps more responsive, in my experience have a much greater tendency to squeak and chirp. Thin tip rails just don’t have as much surface to seal the read against so any variation in embouchure, reed shape or alignment makes it more likely the sealing won’t be ideal.
Meyer!
Lester Young played an Ebolin.
@Jazzznbluezzz1
6 ай бұрын
Yes he did after WWII. In fact he played the Streamline model which is supposed to sound a little more punchier as opposed to the regular Ebolin. Not sure if they reissue the Streamline model also.
The meyer beats both the others hands down ! in my opinion......
@wilsoncosta5822
6 ай бұрын
Eu tenho uma das antigas toda preta, n 6 o som que tiro no sax alto é perfeito. Mágico. Show
The original has a less bright sound. Which I prefer. The Meyer is closer to the original Brilhart Ebolin.
The older Brilharts that do not have a serial number are not the high quality products of the 40s and 50s.They continued to make them as a low price student mouthpiece, and these are without serial numbers.
I tried one of these but felt like it just didn’t have the vibe of the older ones. These I think are hand faced that’s why they are not $50. They are quality made. They fixed the number system on these. On the older ones a 4 is like a Meyer 5 or 6 opening. A star means it’s a longer facing.
Saxophone and mouthpiece prices are ridiculous and obscene.
I would differ in your conclusion: I contend the old Brilharts were as good or superior to mouthpieces made today. Your vintage test piece is a cheaper student model that does not have a serial number, unlike the earlier high quality models with serial numbers.The Brilharts of the 40s and 50s were competing against the classic handmade mouthpieces from Otto Link , Meyer and Berg Larsen . Nonetheless, many of the top players chose to play on Brilharts including, Charlie Parker, Lester Young, Gene Ammonds, Johnny Hodges, Benny Carter, Sonny Stitt, Stan Getz, Zoot Sims, Al Cohn and on clarinet Sidney Bechet, Artie Shaw, Woody Herman and Les Brown.
@drwallysax
5 күн бұрын
Wait, I couldn't tell from the video. how did you determine the vintage piece didn't have a serial number (did I miss it)? If it's a true Carlsbad, it definitely has a serial number. In my very nerdy A/B comparison and measurements, the "NEW" Carlsbad appears to be exactly the same mold as the 1990s student model (super thick tip rails, especially near the window). I
Thanks for the comparison. I think this mouthpiece should be tested with a Selmer saxophone. Then we could see a connection to the past. Previously, there were no such bad tools as yanagisawa. For example, Blue jumbo a45 and Brilhart on your yanagisawa sound bad. Yanagisawa has a very strange sound and many mouthpieces will not sound the way they should. I really hope that Conn-Selmer will be able to revive another version of Brilhart, with small walls inside, this one has big ones. It will be the best mouthpiece.
@saxworldwide
6 ай бұрын
Jim here. I don't think it will massively change things. You may see a connection to the past, as you say. But in terms of my overriding feeling playing the mouthpiece - resistance, overtones, response - this will not change alter massively with a switch of sax.
Prefer the Meyer
Do you ever give a bad review on a product ? LMAO 🤣 The original Brilhart has more depth , more meat to the sound .
@saxworldwide
6 ай бұрын
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