Definitely good points mentioned in the video. However you missed a few points which I believe are crucial to any web developer that's why I'm leaving elementor for Bricks 1. Semantic code output - Elementor's code output is far from semantic and definitely not in a scalable way like Bricks provide. 2. Accessibility issues - due to lack of semantic tags and lack of aria support elementor is not Accessibility friendly. This mistake can be costly. 3. Class based styling - Elementor doesn't offer class based styling in a scalable way like Bricks does.

@websquadron

6 ай бұрын

Ok

Thank you for mentioning the clients side, this has been my biggest challenge, looking for the best builder or solution for client side editing

Excellent way of breaking out the pros and cons of each. We don't have to always have a better or worse one; circumstances or type of usage/user would determine that in each particular case. It's like cars; you can't absolutely say a compact is better than a sports car, each one has its niche and pros/cons.

@websquadron

Жыл бұрын

Well said!

Good chat Imran! I think it’s all about what or which one will benefit the client’s needs the most! At the end of the day, it’s about which builder delivers the site in the most efficient way to benefit both the client and their user base!

@websquadron

Жыл бұрын

Very true

Imran, I enjoyed the video and agree with you to a point. Thanks to advice from Paul @WPTuts, I try and look at which tool(s) would be best for the client project; however, if I am the person that is constantly doing the backend updates, there comes a point where enough is enough. The pricing model alone (assuming you compare Elementor Pro vs Bricks) clearly favors one builder over the other. Additionally, I've been stung too many times moving from one upgrade to the next. I do agree with you that as a web developer, I should always consider the best product for the client. Part of that analysis should also include the history of each product a web developer considers. Thanks again for this video. -- P.S. Keep up the Bricks videos 🙂

i am learning bricks - used elementor for years and years. but i think bricks win with optimization and speed lifetime license and more it's like webflow system but on wordpress which means more possibilites than webflow

@bradatimedved

Жыл бұрын

Lifetime deal is never a win. It's not sustainable on the long run.

@plantifulalexandra

3 ай бұрын

​@@bradatimedved Agree, they have other licenses too, though. Not every solo user's gonna buy the expensive lifetime license.

@jachymJB

25 күн бұрын

@@bradatimedved What do you mean by that? How its not sustainable?

Great vid mate... Get you with the sassy finger snap! 🤣

@websquadron

Жыл бұрын

You know it

Bricks is King.

😂😂 a full 60 second advert for Breakdance before your video started, I thought it was the start of your video 😂 I was like 😑 ey? On a serious note, Elementor loop builder still not production ready.

@websquadron

Жыл бұрын

Hehe :) Indeed that is true regarding the EL Loop

@tomnoreilde8032

Жыл бұрын

Why? Breakdance is the way to go. So fucking good and this for 1.0.2. Bricks has bug, bugs and bugs like Elementor.

@websquadron

Жыл бұрын

@@tomnoreilde8032 I like to flex between the two as it may depend on the end user as well. I can see Bricks getting stronger and stronger.

@jason-m

Жыл бұрын

If you're a good web designer, any of these page builders are good enough. BD is excellent, but when you say only 1.02 that's just a number, it's been in development for 3 years, and don't expect to get a good accessibility score any time soon. Bricks has a way to go yet, but the interface is much more 'standards' friendly.

I might give bricks a try. I mean the price is a nobrainer and i like the UI of it alot. And i rather pay once for a builder and miss some features then paying 200$ each year to have the same issue with elementor.

Liked the end of the video!, really difficult bro

Bricks FTW!!

Great report on both products. Really honest and practical. One thing: I don’t recommend you starting a singing/ rapper career. Sorry😢

@websquadron

Жыл бұрын

Understood :)

The more tools you have in your skill set the better. I never understood this idiotic 'rivalry' between some page builder users.

Coming from using Divi to Bricks, I would say that Divi is in the same camp as Elementor. In terms of performance and having to deal with all the fine tuning I am finding Bricks a breath of fresh air. That said, from the recent Divi 5 progress report, it looks like performance will be much improved. Is there a chance that Divi may get a class system and other on the ball features that we see in Bricks? Possibly. There have been some small UI hints in recent versions, indicating that this may be possible. Nick did mention a while ago a global class system and something to address the over nesting. May we wake up one day and see ACSS running on there? 😮 It’s a big project so I guess we will have to wait and see.

@websquadron

4 ай бұрын

Really good points.

Interesting comparison.. One point I would like to add is also the Pricing factor for Bricks and Elementor for long term licensing purpose. A quick question.. which are the optimization plugins you recommend?

@websquadron

Жыл бұрын

Phase press is good

@websquadron

Жыл бұрын

Sorry Phastpress

Thinking about switching because of the new accessibility laws in 2025... definitely looking into it and try it out.

Peace and love! ✌️ Great video!

@websquadron

Жыл бұрын

Exactly :) Except for a dance breaker builder.

@NicholasZein

Жыл бұрын

@@websquadron 😅

For those of us starting out, but come from a frontend development background, what do you suggest? I don't mind having to add some CSS or javascript code at all. Also when a plugin says it has deep integration with something like elementor, what does that exactly mean? Because Woolentor and Cartflows will be part of my stack. What will me using bricks mean for them? I'm asking because I end up spending hours just to do little things (in terms of UI) in elementor and it's annoying. Thanks for the content, great channel!

@websquadron

9 ай бұрын

With the new EL Loop Grid you won't need to use Woolentor. Bricks is more suited if you want to mess around with CSS.

How do you handle all the types of options you have in Elementor, even the simple custom codes when you use Bricks Builder?

@websquadron

Жыл бұрын

You can add the Code Field, or use Code Snippets

Sure I saw a feature in Bricksforge where you could customise the builder based on role. I.e. Turn off classes for site editors....

@websquadron

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely yes :) I'm thinking more about Clients that don't want any involvement with the Dev/Designer.

Hello ! What plugins do you recommend for optimization in Elementor? Additionally, ¿What are the “must have” plugins for a website with Elementor for defense and spam? And ¿What plugin do you use or recommend for SEO? (Sorry for my English. I’ am from Spain)

@websquadron

10 ай бұрын

Wordfence is good. RankMath for SEO. Page Speed = kzread.info/dash/bejne/d5iHm7CnYc3ZnJs.htmlfeature=shared

@mariopereira6018

8 ай бұрын

@@websquadron Thank you for your answer!

I believe you can limit users from fiddling with style or other features that can break Bricks Builder. So that’s not much of an issue. :)

@websquadron

Жыл бұрын

True but it may be a complete handover with no maintenance or contact with the client

Does bricks have a built in forms like elementor or do we need plugin?

@websquadron

Жыл бұрын

It does have forms :) I have a Video for that - see the Bricks Playlist :)

Great video and coverage of the pros and cons of both builders. What's the deal with saying we can all work together??? What, no flaming each other?? No "this kills that" ??? Sarcasm aside, Yes, a bit more respect for others and their workflows would go a long way in web design. Peace and props. 👍

@websquadron

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely :)

Hey Web Squadron, any update on which is a better product or you still feel the same one year on?

@websquadron

7 ай бұрын

Both are really cool and I would use both. No need for 1 to be better than the other. It's all subjective.

i share the same sentiments

I can see where you're coming from regarding the 1 theme vs several plugins but Divi is also just a theme feels bloated and it's not as good as either the latest Elementor or Bricks as far as I can tell (I'm going to be testing Bricks this evening coming from a Divi and then Elementor background).

@feskelariteit

8 ай бұрын

and how d you find Bricks ??

Why Elementor does not consider to introduce a "pro mode" and the default mode, so they could cover all advanced features Bricks is famous for in the pro mode and not bother the common elementor non-pro users... it would be the perfect solution for everyone! Like workspace settings in PS for example

@websquadron

Күн бұрын

Yup.

Dear Sir, As you said you prefer Elementor, how do you create a membership website using Bricks Builder and if I go for Elementor, how i can create it ? How i can create a content based membership website with different user levels ? For example - Bronze Member, Silver Member, Gold Member. So that i may be able to provide different contents to different user level members. What do you say about Gutenberg ? I hope you have understood my point. I am a big fan of yours , Mr. Paul. Yours and Pauls tutorials has helped me a lot. I hope you will keep guiding me always. Stay healthy, happy and safe, Yours lovingly, Vivek Kumar ( Dehri On Sone, Bihar, India)

@websquadron

Жыл бұрын

Use Paid Membership Pro as you can set Free and Paid Membership with alternate content per group. See this: kzread.info/dash/bejne/nKeAkrxmg9G9hc4.html Gutenberg is fine but I don't use Gutenberg yet. So glad that our content is helping :)

On the pricing anyone else find it difficult to trust a company that charges once for lifetime access? I'm happy to pay more and annually knowing that my builder has recurring income to keep the quality and support up.

@oliverforrester8048

9 ай бұрын

Love the videos btw!

@websquadron

9 ай бұрын

Sometimes you have to base it on how strong they are and if they have income from elsewhere too. I agree as I look deeper before investing!.

What do you think about Divi and Brizy in comparison?

@websquadron

Жыл бұрын

There’s loads more for sure but I based it on what the bulk of my audience were using. Maybe next time.

I just got done restoring againnnn an Elementor ‘critical error’ client hosted website being down. 🙄😡 Curious Imran if you don’t come across this (here constant) issue?

@websquadron

Жыл бұрын

Was it due to an outdated version of EL?

Sell out! lol ;)

@websquadron

Жыл бұрын

Hehe :)

@satanishangover

Жыл бұрын

Soon, if he continues this pattern, we'll seen him switching to Breakdance! Noooooo!! 😱 Just kidding, of course, I think before that he would rather design blindfolded. 😖

@websquadron

Жыл бұрын

The day I join Breakdance will be close to extinction

@Melissa_Lawrence

Жыл бұрын

😂

What are your views on oxygen? I am using Elementor for years but they are not at all focusing on page builder, instead they are spending their resources on AI and image optimiser plugin. Lack of repeater field support is also a key feature that is missing. I will buy bricks for sure but shall I get the limited deal license of oxygen as well? I mean I am quite confused as the company has introduced a new page builders for ‘beginners’, Oxygen might die in near future despite turning on to subscription only model.

@websquadron

3 ай бұрын

I don't use Oxygen but have you seen my video on how to show Repeaters in Elementor for free with a Code Snippet :) kzread.info/dash/bejne/aoeps8GdppPPd7A.htmlfeature=shared

@akshaysrivastavaofficial

3 ай бұрын

@@websquadron Thanks Imran. Yes I checked that month ago. I am a coder as well so code is not an issue but at times I need speed and easiness. Plus if I am paying a subscription of $400 per year, I expect my page builder to be compatible with modern standards.

I don't like the direction Elementor is going with all their hosting solutions and they're improving very slow because of that

@websquadron

Жыл бұрын

Give it time.

@KariposTheOne

Жыл бұрын

@@websquadron nah, I gave it enough time 😅

Elementor nowdays has to keep up with all the new kids on the block which many are more better having learnt from the past. Elementor now is too bloated compared to Bricks. Bricks websites are faster to load. Elementor has become more nested with all the add-ons to keep up and as a result more complicated.

@websquadron

3 ай бұрын

Did you see my Beta 3.21 video about the new performance boost. If you use EL Pro, you don't need to worry about add-ons. Plus Bricks sites need performance plugins too. It's all good with either product.

I hate when my clients get dirty

@websquadron

Жыл бұрын

Ha :) Me too :)

Since when do you let a client fiddle with the website design? I think customers work on content why we work with a CMS right? And additionally, some clients don't even want to bother with the website things, why we provide care packages for them. And that's what you want as a web developer. Why the argument that Elementor is easier doesn't count in my opinion.

@websquadron

Жыл бұрын

We have a fair few that look after their own websites and don't take out packages etc. We've always found EL to be super-easy for them with low risk. Of course, they do come back when their sites get bust up by their changes.

@PicSta

Жыл бұрын

@@websquadron I know it really depends on the client, but from experience I know customers break what they can break, at least 90% of them shouldn't play with the design of the website. But as long you don't mind fixing their problems and get paid for it, you're good. I hate fixing websites which got fked up.

@websquadron

Жыл бұрын

@@PicSta Yup. I massively warn them about the high cost if they break anything.

hey!! i have a question. i use elementor pro and have most pages made thru it. i have my all in one seo configured and google analytics. i have been suggested to downloading AMP which isn’t compatible style wise with elementor. i haven’t configured AMP becaaause ive read the warnings lol so, is there a solution that you know of to this, outside of paying for the compatibility toggle plugin?? i’m unaware of any other option out there! lol woke up to updated wp today and my site was broken as well. it was a jetpack snag but it’s back up! woohooo. 😂 i love this job, don’t you?!? 🫠🤭 unrelated, gonna keep up the ranting a bit: 😂 elementor is DIV DIV DIV DIV 😩 i love it but i don’t like the container in container in container. as long as i write all my content first then edit in elementor after and publish that way, it works just fine. my fav cache is litespeed but it can also mess with your styled pages if you aren’t careful minifying

@websquadron

Жыл бұрын

Hey Do you use RankMath instead? That might help. I know the feeling with too many containers but I would revisit and try to reduce the number of containers used.

@soicybunny

Жыл бұрын

@@websquadron i’ve heard about rank math but very vaguely! so not too familiar, but that’s with everything in this business 🤗 always learning, i will look into this more deeply! thank you!!

@websquadron

Жыл бұрын

@@soicybunny Just in case... kzread.info/dash/bejne/doGhtJZupdvWgKw.html

@imlivid2746

Жыл бұрын

Hey, I wouldnt really recommend AMP, even Google isnt developing more of it. Its kinda a dead project