#NASASpaceNews - Call it what it is: ITS AN ION DRIVE.

Somewhere between "propellantless" and maximize the total amount of propellant it can use" seems to have a disconnect somewhere. **It's an ion thruster, and it does have propellant! **

"Unlike traditional propulsion systems that often grapple with the limitations...". While they show a shuttle launching from Earth, something that this ion thruster can NEVER even come close to doing. Grapple with that limitation.

Nothing ever breaks the laws of physics. We may not understand them, but that’s our problem.

@bomat761

15 күн бұрын

Laws of Physics are a human concept, and therefore not static. It will always evolve as our knowledge expands.

@htopherollem649

14 күн бұрын

​@bomat761 The human species has been wrong about almost everything it's ever thought for it's entire existence ; a trend we show ,so far, to be continuing (Doug Stanhope)

@Siderite

14 күн бұрын

what about physics criminals?!

@grumpystiltskin

13 күн бұрын

As the US Congress determines very carefully which Physics research can be done, we can say Congress makes the law of Physics. They are a body of about 99.7% lawyers except for only one guy who was on the Top Quark team at Fermilabs (Thank you Bill Foster!).

@WESMITH91

7 күн бұрын

Put another way, the laws of physics continue to evolve.

The H71M is not a propellantless thruster.

@IMTHEBIGGESTCUNT

15 күн бұрын

Propellantless thruster and gated shifter in the same sentence. Ahhhhhhh

@Garrett0329

15 күн бұрын

Elaborate

@stevedolesch9241

15 күн бұрын

Yes, elaborate. If you know something elaborate.

@skellig5867

15 күн бұрын

@patrickmchargue It is, in the sense that it is not using a chemical fuel like conventional rockets and thrusters.

@patrickmchargue7122

15 күн бұрын

@@stevedolesch9241 Ions exiting the back of a rocket ARE the propellant.

CLICK BAIT. This is not even remotely close to being new. It doesn’t break the laws of physics. And it still uses propellant. 🤦‍♂️

@falconvisionuavloworbit

13 күн бұрын

Exactly! Old technology...but for some reason the media is running wild with it. It's only taken 30 years and although it's old tech. It will be a new standard for transportation and it's commercial implications for vendors within the borders of the United States. Hopefully we won't start going backwards by giving away our technology to foreign companies...or countries

It is not without propellant.

Can these things be evolved to vehicles to clean up space junk? Looks like ongoing maintenance roles are becoming unavoidable.

Sir my question is does NASA have any plan for clean the space junks

The electrostatic propulsion system hasn’t been implemented yet, that’s just a regular ion thruster that probably uses Xenon

Ion thruster, first predicted in the 3rd season of Star Trek TOS in 1968.

@Marc_Gagne

15 күн бұрын

Wasn't it called an "Ion Drive".

@stefanjakubowski8222

15 күн бұрын

The ion drive was proposed in 1911 and a working one was built In or around 1958

@nixl3518

14 күн бұрын

@@stefanjakubowski8222 I would suggest that the more apt word for something like this in being “proposed” in 1911, is “imagined“!

Physics is a hard science, but describing it seems even harder for many. NASA's so-called "propellant less" space drive is being described as something that "defies the laws of physics." But, does it actually "defy" physics? No technology--that at least a Kardashev 0 species like humanity can design--is able to literally defy the laws of physics. (Perhaps a K4 and above can.) So, what these otherwise brilliant scientists and engineers really should be saying is that the new NASA engine is far better at MANIPULATING the laws of physics than has any spacecraft propulsion device prior to it. Using the right language makes for a strong presentation.

Former NASA scientist Dr. Charles Buhler has been developing & talking about this. It has propellant. It doesn't burn fuel or have hazardous emissions.

glenn research had the Vladimir pines patents of 2017. cold fusion using erbium and deuterium

I suppose they don't have a combustable propellent, but they do have a reaction mass, the ions.

Didn't ESA test such an engine at least 2 to 3 decades ago? I remember that Germany was involved and that the engine ionized mercury atoms for propulsion.

Could this make flying cars possible/more feasible, by increasing the amount of weight you could levitate/fly at, especially if it was IN earth's atmosphere and could pick up the ions/make them as it travels?

...well, we will be seeing venator-class star destroyers next year...SWEET!

"cuts travel time to Mars" by how much?

@mejohnb65

14 күн бұрын

0.0000000000001 whole seconds. 😁

It says right in the first couple minutes that it is a high propellant engine!! D’oh

Is the technology #QuantizedInertia by Dr Mike McCullouch (compatible in some way)

@WESMITH91

7 күн бұрын

Mike? Clarification appreciated.

What I like the most about these is that the amount of reaction mass needed is so much less than the combustion mass needed for the same amount of Delta Vee, that it's almost zero. Certainly not p[ropellant free, but very certainly LESS PROPELLANT. And we can lift FAR more spacecraft now that we don't need to lift 10 times their weight in fuel. Or more.

@Freja_Solstheim

15 күн бұрын

These drives cannot put out enough force to take off from our planet. Their use is for interplanetary/stellar travel.

My understanding is that an electric field produced by a fairly strong voltage between a cathode and anode needs to be generated to accelerate electrons from the cathode towards the anode so that they can collide with Argon atoms to absorb enough energy to remove an electron and then have the Ar+ ion be pushed out by the electric field at a high velocity. Ok, where does the energy come from to produce the electric field voltage?

@grumpystiltskin

13 күн бұрын

Space is full of energy! Usually you have too much if you are anywhere near the sun. And you can carry along those "Nasa's Shortcut to Fusion" lattice confined fusion devices to donate neutrons to throium and natural uranium. Or if you have too much money and too much time you can get DOE to maybe sell you some Pu but then the neighbors at the Cape will get (needlessly) nervous.

I get the distinct feeling that you’re avoiding telling us exactly how this works! Why?

But it's still limited to space applications only. No way it can climb out of Earth's gravity well. And it's a different flavor of a ion drive.

Star Wars Ion Thrusters in real life. Awesome.

If we set about to map all the plasma discharges that are emitted by the sun and connect to each planet - google "nasa magnetic ropes" these could then possibly be used as plasma highways for probes to draw their power from, and if we could do this we could perhaps map the Plasma conduits (birkeland currents) that connect the stars that have been hypothesised and send probes along these intersteller birkeland currents drawing the power for these electric/ion engines

Shouldn't that be Cozemose?

This is good. Not bad, it’s good!! lol. I can’t remember what movie that was hahaha

You need to research plasma physics. Talk to rocket engineers /scientists. It's not "defying physics" it is new technology. Think of an acetylene cutting torch compared to a plasma cutting torch process. No flame required.

@htopherollem649

14 күн бұрын

this video is all the evidence I need to decide that any benefit I may receive (in terms of scientific knowledge) is not worth the cost of listening to such a length of circuitus, partly mystical, quasi scientific psycobabble.

The EM drive doesn't work so they had to post this

Scale up n see ?

IT DOES HAVE Propellant! ION DRIVE It has an Exhaust then its a rocket engine!!!!

When you are in Rome do what the Romans do, and while you are in space do what the Magnetic field do.

CLick Bait , NOT FROM NASA *It's an ion thruster, and it does have propellant! *

@SilverMe2004

13 күн бұрын

Is that why they keep repeating themselves without telling us anything?

"Propellantless"

@TimeSurfer206

15 күн бұрын

Less propellant. By about 100 to one or something equally stupid.

@victorsago

14 күн бұрын

@@TimeSurfer206 Less propellant is still not propellantless.

@TimeSurfer206

14 күн бұрын

@@victorsago "Propellent less" is not the same as "Propellent free." Welcome to the mother fuqking "Engalish" ""Lanaguage."

NASA has a nack for inventing the most cost ineffective methods of space craft. Why not use steam for small spacecraft? Its much cheaper!

@SilverMe2004

13 күн бұрын

You should be careful using sarcasm on the internet as there are people out there that are dumb enough to think you are telling the truth.

@FloridaTarponWrangler

13 күн бұрын

@@SilverMe2004 lol

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missed saying war applications

Click bait. Headline is simply not true.

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Clickbait, not propellantless

Betcha SpaceX could do it better & cheaper !

What about banning burning oil and its direct products on earth? You have the tech.

Thrust is stone age. Although gravity moves at the speed of light it cannot change direction as quickly. This can be exploited in many industries to reduce or eliminate fuel: from building to transportation. In space the solution for fast travel is somewhat different, although based on same fundamental principles; this is the asymmetric rotating magnetic field. Not only is propulsion achieved at near speed of light, but electrical energy is a free by product --own oxygen supply is essential. This is not speculation.

Let's be honest. We don't NEED to explore space. We simply WANT to.

@TheLastStarfighter77

15 күн бұрын

I understand you're thought but eventually, we will need to venture out there to mine asteroids as one day in the not to distant future, our resources will run dry, the secondary reason to explore and colonise is for self preservation of the human race, that's if we can make it past the great filter stage.

@Greenmachine305

15 күн бұрын

@@TheLastStarfighter77 We won't physically make it past the filter. That's why space exploration isn't a necessity. The path forward is within.

@willowwisp357

15 күн бұрын

To be honest if it weren’t for space exploration you wouldn’t have GPS, international telephone service, hurricane tracking, etc. Not to mention all the side benefits of developing such technology, like computer chips and led technology. It’s not difficult to understand with even the least amount of interest. However no one can help you if you have no interest.

@Greenmachine305

15 күн бұрын

@@willowwisp357 I do have an interest. I follow it closely. I simply see its value differently.

@TheLastStarfighter77

15 күн бұрын

@@willowwisp357 Thank you 🙂

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Lol everything we do based on quantum physics defies real world physics don't they? If we mange to control quantum entanglement for communications that will defy our laws of physics lol. Kinda lame title.

What a waste of servers space. "Don't recommend channel"

Meanwhile in Africa...

China has better stuff. 😅

666 the mark of The Beast.

It’s not the engine that’s really the problem…it’s the amount of fuel needed to run it. Let’s find a different fuel/power system and maybe we will have a chance to leave the solar system in a few hundred years.