Man honestly there needs to be a better system in place for all these animation studios; it's great that we get awesome shows but I would rather the staff gets paid well and stays healthy

@Amaling

3 жыл бұрын

100%

@jra116

3 жыл бұрын

Which means higher quality

@Amar_Indo007

3 жыл бұрын

Sadly, this system is more profitable for the committee and the studio management. With less show to make there's less money involved. There's a rare studio like Kyoto animation that cares about their staff and quality. But since anime on its own is no longer a big profit maker since Bluray sales had been dropping and well anime, in general, had been a glorified advertisement for its manga counterpart this is the only way for the studio to survive.

@bellamy2041

3 жыл бұрын

*cough cough* studio Mappa. I still don't know if they are paying their animators fairly, especially with the amount of high-end and popular anime. Anime upon anime, I really hope they become like studio trigger and Kyoto studio where they can support their animators. If the industry doesn't change I think Japanese animation would die down and Chinese animation would become the new niche.

@skandosh9025

3 жыл бұрын

@@bellamy2041 they were not a few years ago if I remember correctly. Idk if they changed for good or not. Does not look like it tho.

Wit Studio in 2013: "We don't want to be known as the Attack on Titan Studio." Also Wit Studio a little later in 2013: "Well that plan has been f**cked."

@VampireKingRyan

3 жыл бұрын

To be fair if Vinland saga continues to be as good as it is then they may not be the attack on titan studio for long.

@buhnana6117

3 жыл бұрын

@@VampireKingRyan vinland saga isn’t nearly as big as attack on titan though

@pissedmonke8702

3 жыл бұрын

@@VampireKingRyan I think they have already left the sphere of "The Attack on Titan studio" behind, because let's be honest, the people who even know which studio is which already know that Wit Studio has come into its own as a great place for animation.

@ale4462

3 жыл бұрын

I honestly don’t see the problem with that aot is a masterpiece a good title to be related to

@xfreja

3 жыл бұрын

@@ale4462 exactly

Well researched and well presented. This should be a mandatory watch for AoT fans who appreciate the production process

@teomankaya769

3 жыл бұрын

Aot should get atleast 2 years gap between each seasons period

@candypietravels

3 жыл бұрын

I'm right here lol

@nouridv3118

3 жыл бұрын

@@teomankaya769 Wit - pulled off AoT season 3 part 1 in 10 month while working on another project & part 2 in about 8 months while working on Vinland Saga.

@teomankaya769

3 жыл бұрын

@@nouridv3118 your point?

@nouridv3118

3 жыл бұрын

@@teomankaya769 My point is pretty obvious, and the OP comment make it seem that for quality anime there has to be atleast 2 years of production which is true for cash-grabbing studios like MAPPA, every decently good looking show they made had been in production for atleast 2 years. but its not the same other more talented studios.

I almost forgot how cool it was in season 1 seeing them flying though cities like Spider-Man with the camera swinging on round with it

@eanderson9599

3 жыл бұрын

It’s so mesmerizing

@Matpeixelegal

3 жыл бұрын

Ikr? I hope we can have more of that in part2 cause the odm gear in part1 wad lame af

@LORDdrPepper

2 жыл бұрын

@@Matpeixelegal lame is a massive overreaction

@MP-cv6if

2 жыл бұрын

ikr Hope they do something for the final movie

@Strongtower23

Жыл бұрын

@@LORDdrPepper not really

Now that Attack On Titan is officially over, watching breakdowns and people's perspective is all that's left to fill the empty void.

@itzelramirez4801

3 жыл бұрын

You said it dudester:”)

@erwins_arm

3 жыл бұрын

wdym officially over s4 p2 is coming in less than a year

@resmittien9817

3 жыл бұрын

@@erwins_arm but manga ended

@erwins_arm

3 жыл бұрын

@@resmittien9817 i didnt know :o no spoiler

@resmittien9817

3 жыл бұрын

​@@erwins_arm don't worry i'm not an asshole but be careful,there are a lot of spoiler in the comments

In short, Attack on Titan has Always been production hell

@zilldraws

3 жыл бұрын

Huh just like Paradis

@G2rtTr

3 жыл бұрын

But people never cared until now ofc. They think the shit schedule started last year but actually its been a tough project. The difference is that all 3 season have a good quality and they didnt care as long as they get the god tier quality. Now we arent getting a god tier quality so people try to informate themselves about what happens about mappa's situation etc... But if you r an old wtacher of aot(2013) you knew almots everything about aot and wit situation.

@AnhHoang-mm7sz

3 жыл бұрын

@@G2rtTr heck the only season that has somewhat good schedule was s2 s1, s3 and s4 has the worst scheduling

@hochigaming14yearsago90

3 жыл бұрын

And the liberio internment zone was reproduction hell

@zenitsuthunder3946

3 жыл бұрын

except season 1

Damn how come animation studios never consider crowd funding? I’d be willing to donate irresponsible amounts of money to see attack on titan season 4 in full 2D Beauty

@TheCanipaEffect

3 жыл бұрын

Crowdfunding has rarely worked for anime. It's usually used as a promotional thing these days. Although the issue with AoT wasn't money, it was time.

@oogaboogaa21

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheCanipaEffect do you think the part 2 on winter 2022 will be having enough time to make the show's animation better?

@TexYMatt98

3 жыл бұрын

@@oogaboogaa21 Does 10 months seem enough? We will be lucky if they manage to reach the same level the did in part 1.

@septianrico4141

3 жыл бұрын

@@TexYMatt98 well they did part 1 with 8 months, and the content for part 2 isnt as bigger as part 1 so hope fully it delivers a masterpiece

@adipura4030

3 жыл бұрын

@@oogaboogaa21 hopefully, but dont make your expectation too high, you may fell in the same pit.

The storyboarding, direction, voice acting and plot are carrying this season hard. I barely notice the lack of movement thanks to them.

@Olegnas705

3 жыл бұрын

Direction how? I'm a couple episodes behind but it's predominantly been a very close adaptation of the manga. It doesn't actually feel like it's elevated the source as s1 did w Araki.

@izshtar

3 жыл бұрын

@@Olegnas705 some of the episodes are very well directed but others feels a little bit rushed. I think that Liberio Arc could've been better. because it was very hype in the Manga, which i really couldn't feel the same way the Anime has shown.

@papaxota4725

3 жыл бұрын

@@Olegnas705 And the storyboard is basically a 1:1 copy from the manga.

@Olegnas705

3 жыл бұрын

​@@papaxota4725 Yeah, I just can't agree with the idea that the direction and storyboarding are "good" but more so ok at best. I believe Yuuichirou Hayashi even said that they wanted to keep this season as close to the manga as possible bc it has a very cinematic presentation. It, unfortunately, doesn't really offer too much as an adaptation (unless you wanna be petty and say it had music, va, moving characters etc.).

@linktheslayer1572

3 жыл бұрын

@@Olegnas705 ep 1,7,8,14 are probably the best so far in terms of animation quality and art work.

The best part of this already masterful video is how he put time stamps for the various Sawano tracks he used. That’s such a cool touch and it just shows how methodical and thought out these videos are. Amazing job on one of my favorite shows of all time.

@TheCanipaEffect

3 жыл бұрын

I stole the idea from a different channel, I just can't remember where XD Saves people asking what the music playing is though.

@CraftyCarrot

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheCanipaEffect Exactly. The video was amazing, nevertheless. You told me some things I’ve never heard before in my 6 years of watching and learning about the series, and your breakdown of the animation is astounding. I love looking at the intricacies of animation just as much as the next guy, and a masterfully crafted video like this is such an awesome watch. Thank you so much for making this!

@zurielbabida8162

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheCanipaEffect yeah, its also nice that I dont know what each time stamp is going to talk about

@Maisonier

3 жыл бұрын

The best part: 28:39 "look like a POWERPOINT". Totally agree.

Thank you so SO much for including music used in the description. More people need to do this.

@leonhart4335

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed.

@michaelv1750

3 жыл бұрын

Lmao I was about too hunt the music down

So much of the problem here can be attributed to Japanese work culture, and it's blatantly obvious when you have a studio turning down the opportunity to work on something that is guaranteed to be extremely successful

@ScyrousFX

3 жыл бұрын

Extremely succesful for the production committee, sure. But the studio won’t make more money because the show is popular. They don’t get paid extra even if it’s succesful. That would only be the case if it’s an original show and the studio is on the production committee. “Extremely succesful” is a bad thing here. Millions of people criticizing your every move, a horrendous schedule, and the same compensation you’d get for any other project. If you mess up, chances are you’ll not only ruin that show’s production, but your good name as well.

@RogerNbr

3 жыл бұрын

turning it down because the stupid committee won't give you enough time cuz they need money NOW

@fielalmanga

3 жыл бұрын

@@RogerNbr because they wanted the cour to end at the same time as the manga, basically

@trinipappi7711

3 жыл бұрын

@@ScyrousFX Nothing but facts, the production committee really fucked up giving mappa such a shitty time schedule, but even so mappa is doing pretty good

@harolrvez7124

3 жыл бұрын

Trini PaPPi Mappa is now in a even harder situation, they are tripling down this time. Aot part 2, Chainsaw man and a JJK movie. Three years for each adaptation, im seriously worried about the production quality given the circumstance above

Lets be honest. If Mappa were given the time they needed then the action scenes would be godly. I just hope they continue the series and take their time to do it.

@TheCanipaEffect

3 жыл бұрын

It's hard to know what it would be like if they had the time they needed. MAPPA's early shows like Kids on the Slope and Rage of Bahamut: Genesis were godly. But then a studio in that state probably wouldn't have accepted Attack on Titan: Final Season, they'd be doing their own stuff.

@nuimee5884

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheCanipaEffect of course we can't know for sure what would've happened, but MAPPA has put out great animation even recently. You used God of Highschool clips too for example, and that was three seasons ago. JJK also looks great, contracted work or not, they do seem to care about this production at least. If they can handle two action heavy shows in a year, why not AoT?

@lanceramos5714

3 жыл бұрын

but i think it wouldve been WIT if it gave enough time

@megashark1013

3 жыл бұрын

@@nuimee5884 Because neither of those had to be animated in the middle of a fffffucking pandemic.

@oreki8707

3 жыл бұрын

@@nuimee5884 well comparing the action scenes in aot s1 and s2 and jjk, Id say that aot action sequences were much smoother and much better animated, we really were spoiled from s1 to s3

I can live without amazing sakugas if that means animators having good hours of sleep and receiving a good amount of money. The problem is that no matter how much more money they make they never go to the animators.

@skandosh9025

3 жыл бұрын

If AOT does not get amazing Sakuga then it will just go to other shows. Overworked animators are a constant. You can do nothing to change that.

@nikolaihalvorsen7526

3 жыл бұрын

If animators got more time and money to do shows, we would probably get even more amazing sakuga then we have now.

@skandosh9025

3 жыл бұрын

@@nikolaihalvorsen7526 yup. Honestly this a Japanese society problem. They are overworked and underpaid in almost every field. The problem goes very deep.

@theLikou1

3 жыл бұрын

@@nikolaihalvorsen7526 Sakuga is not just about giving money to animators, it's all about time too.

@pissedmonke8702

3 жыл бұрын

It's kind of an iffy situation though. You see, there are a pretty decent amount of animators that are paid well enough to have good lives, but those are the salaried positions. Animation Studios quite often outsource to freelancers or do what is essentially a paid internship. If you're able to prove yourself as either a reliable artist/animator, or you have displayed insane skill that can't be passed up regardless of your reliability as an employee, you can get one of those salaried positions. The sleep issue is a different thing. It's not just the animators, literally everyone on the production team of an anime is overworked, just watch a recent interview with the director of AoT's final season and pay attention to the awful bags under his eyes. This part sadly doesn't have a solution or necessarily a bright side to it. Once you look at the information for a while, you realize that the pay for salaried employees at bigger Studios isn't as bad as many people think (it's not great, but it's not the BS "salaried employees only get two dollars per hour" thing that people say). The real issue is the overworking and sleep deprivation situation, because the thing is, you don't really need much money in your pocket to sit at a desk all day, sure you deserve the money and you have earned the right to it, but I think it's bad that people think of this as a money issue for the employees when it's much more of a schedule issue.

20:50 I don't think I've ever noticed this before, but when Levi kills this first of Zeke's titans that looks like Armin's VA they actually have the detail of him cutting it's hair in the process!

@DamageMaximo

3 жыл бұрын

yes

my boi canipa

@TheCanipaEffect

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks!! A long morning coffee lol

@raawesome3851

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheCanipaEffect though, can you do a review on Kyoto animation, and do a spotlight for them? Unlike Mappa, and Wit, they supposedly have really good pay for their animators, and they are one of the studios that I believe have managed to not fall down into the system.

3 months to animate 1st Levi Vs Monke? Daaaaaamn. it was freaking good tho !

@jordandwiggins1026

3 жыл бұрын

@SYLWVIN Do you think the original Levi vs Beast Titan fight wasn’t incredibly good? Either you’re trolling or you’re mixing up which fight is being referred to here

@peeper2070

3 жыл бұрын

@SYLWVIN Season 3: 5 minutes took 3 months Season 4: 16 episodes for 8 months

@lerquian1970

3 жыл бұрын

@@peeper2070 did WIT only work on that scene for 3 months? I'd imagine that they were working in other things as well (still very little time for MAPPA to animate S4)

@devarshbhatt5612

3 жыл бұрын

@@lerquian1970 not the whole WIT, just one guy worked on it for 3 months. His name is arifumi Imai.

@Hanfgurkenhasser

3 жыл бұрын

@@devarshbhatt5612 Pretty sure it was "just" 2 months and 8000 frames. But yeah, to create good sakuga, you need A) an insanely talented animator who has B) enough time to make it good. Quality needs time. Mappa didn't get any of it and the results were to be expected, sadly.

i saw the chapter feature and automatically assumed the chapters would be for highlighting different animators, so when i saw hiroyuki sawano as the first one i genuinely had a moment of "oh wow, he animates too?" before my brain started working again

When I saw the last episode of AOT final season part 1and they said that the next episode will be airing in Winter 2022 I was in disbelief. As a new anime fan who do not know anything about anime release season, I thought I will have to wait until December 2022 to enjoy the show. But when I learned that winter 2022 means December 2021 until March 2022 I was in relief. Watching your video about how overworked the MAPPA animators are made me wish that the winter 2022 release get changed to winter 2023 instead. I am willing to wait one extra year for the animator's well-being and top notch animation.

I hope production committee learns from the mistake and not rush the process of whatever will be the continuation of Final Season, whether it's a Part 2 or a Movie give it more than just 8 months. Mappa staff are doing great with what they were given but their struggle and lack of freelancers/action directors like Arifumi Imai due to them not being able to make time is heavily felt. Committee got their anime season running around ending of the manga to boost sales tactic, now hopefully they should handle it's last stretch in anime better.

@shotspotter7882

3 жыл бұрын

@Emperor exactly

@rez8248

3 жыл бұрын

They will never learn. When investors and production committees see an advantage in getting more money for them, they won't care about the animators.

@aero2423

3 жыл бұрын

I belive that kodasha or the Committee wanted the anime to end with the manga(at least this first part) so the manga can get its last kinda of surge in sales i guess it kind of makes sense from a business perspective but since the manga ends within a month it wouldn't make much sense for them to rush the Mappa staff anymore thus allowing them give aot a better adaptaion overall.

@shotspotter7882

3 жыл бұрын

@@aero2423 yeah there isn't any reason For another atrocious schedule so they should be able to hire as much freelancers as they want like Imai and be able to polish it

@user-sm3fn8zk9b

3 жыл бұрын

This actually makes me concerned with a possible TPN situation. When AoT manga ends, what will be the incentive for making another season? That's what happened with TPN, they just wanted to be done with it since there would be no more manga boost, and that was a manga that was selling more than AoT.

And sadly, this is how business works. And I´m not hating Mappa at all. But one thing I really hate are the manga readers who just spoiled the show to others.

@soulreincarnation

3 жыл бұрын

Lol

@NigtMareZero

3 жыл бұрын

True. Was so pissed when a guy in the comment section told me that Mikasa eats Rainer, ruined my week.

@PixelBraint

3 жыл бұрын

@@NigtMareZero is this sarcasm

@johncarlbelmonte8801

3 жыл бұрын

FALCO WILL INEHRIT ERENS ATTACK ON TITAN

@soulreincarnation

3 жыл бұрын

Eren kills mikasa

It was worth waiting a couple of months. Great video. As much as I want to see season 4 part 2 as soon as possible, I still wish the staff would get more time to work on it. I know the committee will probably force it to air the moment the timeslot is free (so probably fall 2021), but I wouldn't mind waiting until 2022 if it means better animation qualiyy and less pressure on the staff

@ervandrafadhlil403

3 жыл бұрын

I would wish they give it a year or two. We dont have to chase a tight schedule of the manga and everyone will be hyped as hell for the ending. AOT is a good show but still the ones who make it is also need to enjoy making it

@teomankaya769

3 жыл бұрын

I really hope we could get it on Summer 2022 with fully 2d and A LOT of sakugas since part 2 can be an entire Sakuga season if done right

@GREATSLUMBER

3 жыл бұрын

we're getting it in winter

@raawesome3851

3 жыл бұрын

It's winter 2022, so probably December/January at the earliest. Considering that Mappa has apparently been working on season 4 part 2 since October, I think it can be great.

@gg-qr5pz

3 жыл бұрын

@@raawesome3851 Winter could mean the start of the year as well.

Something that I dont understand is mappa hiding the linework of the drawings, there is some kind of filtering that's happening within the compositing, that seems to be making the images look more "blurry", in comparission to Wit Sutdio's version. Perhaps this was a decision to unify the look of the 3d and 2d animation better. The backgrounds themselves often times won't stand out because of this.

@raaz1408

3 жыл бұрын

Honestly, that's the most unpleasant thing for me in the final season: Asakawa Shigeki, the photographic director which has long reputation on butchering animators and colouring staff work with his odd compositing vision, making everything blur, noisy, pale, glowing and 480p... Google Servamp, Devil's line or 7SEEDS and you'll witness his previous victims.

@-MankoMan

3 жыл бұрын

MAPPA has an in house photography team that is no doubt overworked to hell. Jujutsu Kaisen is also a victim of bad compositing, despite having really good animation. But ofcourse the blurs are completely unnecessary. Like, there's no point. Why go out of your way to make something look less good?

@xkyoshi11

3 жыл бұрын

They haven't really used the blur since episode 5, though.

@xkyoshi11

3 жыл бұрын

@Emperor yeah, you're probably right.

@qoki2244

3 жыл бұрын

@@xkyoshi11 Its in every episode. Its especially evident any time there are very bright scenes. They just look terrible. Its not even a close comparison to how good the lighting is in WIT's adaptation

What I love about Araki's direction is that in action scenes, even stills are used to great effect. Even though they are primarily designed as a cost-saving measure, their execution is fantastic. They are usually accompanied by overlaid speed lines on the side of the screen, a crash zoom/speed pan and a BIG sound effect. All these together morph the still into something more akin to an impact shot rather than a cost saving measure. However, Hayashi's direction so far has not used anything like this. His stills are mostly... stills, and none are used in action, which is valuable in itself, but I wouldn't be complaining usually apart from the fact that there are some woefully janky animated shots in the series that honestly, would've been better left with the illusion of movement. For example, Eren's elbow drop into the crowds in Episode 6 only seemed to contain the end of his fall, and didn't emphasize him in the air. A still of him in midair placed in between the shots, coupled with some more impact sound effects could've helped sell the scene better.

@ShebaFr

3 жыл бұрын

His dynamic still effects and shaky camera work enhanced greatly Death Note. The manga could be tedious with those walls of text, but Araki's style, helped by the seiyuu cast's stellar job even helped to make the 2nd arc less draggy. The man had hits and miss (I am looking at Highschool of the Dead), but you cannot say his series were boring.

@joaodelgado6696

3 жыл бұрын

@@ShebaFr man am i glad people are coming around to season 4. really got tired during the hype of arguing with people who were claiming the animation was better than ever and to stfu instead of criticizing the show. it was making me question if people were truly appreciating the quality we got before if they cantsee the downgrade now

@ramtewari6984

2 жыл бұрын

@@joaodelgado6696 Yeah I think when it was airing there were two extremes. One side calling it amazing(it wasn't), and the other side calling it the worst thing since Beserk 2016(also wasn't). I have a more neutral approach(The animation was good, but not close to the high tier shit given to us by wit.) In conclusion, while it was still a good adaptation overall, AoT fans have just been spoilt by the godly earlier seasons by WiT.

@jxbuyo

2 жыл бұрын

you're fan animated directions are pretty goated and similar

Damn, this is your magnum opus. This will (hopefully) have millions of views in the next few years, lol. Huge respect and much love to Canipa and all the wonderful, hard working animators out there. Your enthusiasm brings so much joy to many people all over the world.

13:27 to this day, this Historia shot gives me goosebumps everytime I see it

If you hear or read anybody dissing MAPPA for their work on AoT season 4, link them here. You cannot expect a new studio to suddenly inherit the methods and direction of a studio that worked on it for several years. You cannot expect to stop a car that has been moving on 6th gear and transfer to another car and expect it to jump straight into the 6th gear. I've read some comments saying that MAPPA had no excuse to not be at a similar level that WIT was during their time. Not gonna lie, those comments were annoying. So thanks for this video. This the go-to for deep dives into animation studios. If there's one thing I've learned from this channel, it's that amazing animated shows and ridiculous labor demands are two sides of the same coin.

@thelegacyofgaming2928

3 жыл бұрын

Don't mistake criticism for dissing. 90% of people are criticizing which is good. It lets Mappa know that this quality isn't acceptable. It would've been great for no studio to take it because of bad scheduling, because then we'd get season 4 in 2 years instead of 1, but beautifully done. I'd take quality over speed any day. And so would majority of fans. (And yes, s4 would've been done eventually because it's a money maker)

@SenseofNoneYT

3 жыл бұрын

@@thelegacyofgaming2928 Honestly, I would have loved that too. But given that it has already happened, there's nothing to do about it. Not that they don't deserve criticism. It's that some of the "criticism" are unreasonable and it was obvious that this certain individual didn't really read up or research about the nature of the problem. Criticize them for choosing to take on the work load and more relevant stuff. Don't diss them because they decided not to kill their animators in the process by incorporating 3D characters in the limited time that they had. Production team should not have kept the same ridiculous schedule after WIT walked away from the scene. You're not wrong though. Criticism is fine of course. I just don't think I can call some of them criticism if they had no real understanding of what goes on behind the scenes and just typed in whatever insulting comment they can think of. But I do see what you mean. AoT Final Season really should not have been made this soon. I honestly think MAPPA was a worthy successor to WIT and they could have done so much more. They have great animators. Thanks for the input

@shibendumandal6731

3 жыл бұрын

@@thelegacyofgaming2928 While fans would definitely be happy if more time was given to MAPPA to animate, we all have to realize that we live in a capitalistic society, and shows do not come into thin air. It requires money and profits to be made, especially in a very unregulated industry. The manga is the big moneymaker for the franchise, so animating years later would definitely bring fewer profits for the production committee. If Kodansha put more money into funding season 4, it would make even more sense as to why it aired now. Still, I'm pretty happy with what MAPPA was able to do, and I have a few minor tweaks that I would implement.

@Maisonier

3 жыл бұрын

That's because MAPPA only care about money ... they shouldn't accepted this. We could have to wait 2 years more for WIT to animate the final season ... but at least could be well done.

@WiseManCrack

3 жыл бұрын

@@shibendumandal6731 l

The utter PERFECTION that is 23:24 had me rolling.

@MAJiBAi

3 жыл бұрын

ohno rip staff

@soulreincarnation

3 жыл бұрын

rip staff

@indianflippingart9593

3 жыл бұрын

Rip

WIT studio is not only good at animating,theyre also good at making impact of emotions that would touch the viewers

@mohammadshabih5293

3 жыл бұрын

no

@lerquian1970

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, in previous seasons there were many scenes that really get you: Eren Titan first appearance/Mikasa getting motivation, Reiner revelation, Hannes death/the first time Eren activates the coordinate, when Eren gets the memories of his father, Kenny's death, Armin vs the Colossal titan, the Attack Titan name revelation, "save Mikasa and Armin", etc... But in this season even with the wonderful writing, there wasn't any particular scene that makes you feel like those scenes, maybe when Eren transforms in the declaration of war and when he eats the Warhammer.

@kitten9208

2 жыл бұрын

@@lerquian1970 I get goosebump reading manga when Reiner want to shot himself. But it animate badly, My disappointment is immeasurable.

@aeryangkim1454

Жыл бұрын

WIT puts passion into their works. Mappa does not

@user-og6pb6dd5p

Жыл бұрын

​​@@aeryangkim1454yeah sure💀

Thank you for actually diving in to the production of this show it's not something a lot of people cover

I still don’t get why when someone says they miss the previous season animation, mappa stans take that as an insult for some reason

@hunterhorsehelmsley7315

3 жыл бұрын

Because when you say stuff like that they seem to take it exactly like "Damn, MAPPA sucks, I miss WIT"

@satyamSaha

3 жыл бұрын

@Sami Aot no that's an opinion

@hunterhorsehelmsley7315

3 жыл бұрын

@Sami Aot But they don't suck. If they did then S4 would look 100x worse

@oreki8707

3 жыл бұрын

@Sami Aot yeah bro, mappa sucks when compared to wit

@harshithmardithaya7963

3 жыл бұрын

@Sami Aot no they don't

Bro watched the whole production But seriously, amazing research

There are only two channels that make me this excited for a video: The Meaning of NERD & The Canipa Effect Keep it up bro ❤️

Attack on titan is so well animated it makes me feel I should meet the animators and thank them. Season 3 part 1 was PERFECT I’ve never really been paying attention to the animation but season 3 forced me to respect these geniuses of animation. All fights were overwhelmingly beautiful.

@teomankaya769

3 жыл бұрын

It was mostly Arifumi Imai that carried the action scenes in aot

@klmknop

3 жыл бұрын

Lmao this is how I know you know nothing. Season 3 part 1 had one good scene and that was Levi vs Kenny squad. Did you even have your eyes open during the rest? Did you even see the fight scenes with Rod and the cave? They were nothing compared to seasons 1 and 2.

@teomankaya769

3 жыл бұрын

@@klmknop you the hell are you talking to

@soldecle

3 жыл бұрын

@@klmknop LMAO why you so pressed?

@aminesbai926

3 жыл бұрын

bruh really? season 3 is the season that made you pay attention to the animation? it was the season where quality decreased a LOT, and as the other person said, Arifumi Imai is the one that carried the action scenes. Season 2 was a piece of art.

Upon rewatching all the season man my heart pumps up with mind-blowing breathtaking animations in first 3 seasons. The gloss and intense close up scenes and of course amazing make up team. They elevated Isayama's work to whole another level. The texture and polish over titans and amazing colour palette that changed along with tone of arcs. Watching S4 all I had was disappointment. It didn't look terrible over-all it was fine. But just 'fine' isn't something I consider AOT should deserve. S4 was pretty rough and that's that. No matter how good a CG is it always look jarring and lack the weight both in action sequences and facial expressions. I sympathize with the staff who had to go through such tough time constraints because of higher ups at Mappa and got shit on by people even though it wasn't their fault. People saying it getting a movie by the end is good rumour but I think that's just prolonged suffering for the animators. I wish the best for him and hopefully other future series don't found themselves in the situation aot is in just because of greed.

"wait this is what you are complaining about?" EXAcTLY!!!! that's what I thought in my head too when I first watched the episode from mappa. when they said cgi i expected much worse

@thelegacyofgaming2928

3 жыл бұрын

I thought it was good too, but then I started realizing why they were complaining. It wasn't because the cgi was bad compared to other cgi, it was because it was CGI. Remember in Attack on Titan season 2, everyone complained about cgi colossal, not because it was bad, but because it was cgi. It's fair to say that people just don't like cgi, which I can actually agree with because of how out of place it looks.

@jordandwiggins1026

3 жыл бұрын

@@thelegacyofgaming2928 Honestly I was barely aware of the CGI at all the whole series until the Colossal Titan’s scenes in Perfect Game which went back and forth between being a weird CGI blob to a detailed hand drawn Titan.....that was strangely proportioned in its scenes to the point of looking like 7-8 times taller than Eren’s Titan despite only actual being about 4 times its size. Maybe that was more an issue with Eren’s Titan, I’m not sure. Honestly Eren’s Titan looked rather weird in his fight with the Armored Titan a couple episodes prior as well. Keep in mind these are all nitpicks in my mind than only barely detract from my enjoyment of the show, but I do think it’s worth mentioning that while WIT’s use of CGI was far less noticeable to me early on in the series, that doesn’t mean they were flawless. Season 3 Part 2 is remembered for its standout scenes involving Levi, the Beast Titan, and the ocean, but there were quite a few parts where the animation was less than stellar that people seem to have completely forgotten in their crusade to hate on MAPPA. Nothing in S4 has felt as odd to me as the sudden change in character models from the Basement episode, well okay maybe the Beast Titan did but that’s really the only major problem I have. I think MAPPA’s style shines in episodes like Midnight Train, Deceiver and Sole Salvation where it’s all about the emotional character interactions and dialogues, which to me is why episodes like Declaration of War and Children of the Forest are so loved while some of the more action focused scenes are where people start having complaints. MAPPA and Kodansha just did not give their team the time necessary to animate these action pieces to the same standard that they been handled before. I don’t blame the animators for this, and people harassing them or calling MAPPA as a whole trash are toxic as hell and need to be purged from the fandom. But the higher ups at Kodansha and those at MAPPA who accepted this project despite knowing they didn’t have enough time, the ones who made these situations as difficult for the animators as it is fair game in my opinion, they absolutely did prioritize money over quality. I still think production wise the season has looked incredibly good but I’d be lying if I said I wasn’t extremely glad that Part 2 is getting more time, because Part 1 simply did not have the polish that fans of this series have come to expect, this truth cannot be denied.

I don’t care how long I have to wait as long as it looks good I think mappa should take their time for season 4 part 2 (if there is one)

@bletrick3352

3 жыл бұрын

Coming January 2022 and it'll be 12 episodes. So 10 months from now.

@Villagerwarrior

3 жыл бұрын

Lol, It's Winter 2022 (Either January-March)... But production already start since sometime in October 2020. But even so, I highly doubt Part 2 will reach the end of manga. It almost impossible with this amount. If we only reach chapter 130, we safe. If we reach the end of the manga, we entirely fucked.

@aminesbai926

3 жыл бұрын

@@Villagerwarrior don't forget that most of the chapters left are action-packed, and those can easily fit in one episode.

@Villagerwarrior

3 жыл бұрын

@@aminesbai926 Im not talking about the pacing.. I'm just worried if they have enough time to animate the fight properly and maybe got some freelancer to help them.

@jamrah8713

2 жыл бұрын

@@Villagerwarrior you was right about the freelancers, some of the best shots of this part was because of free lancers

This video needs so many more views, people really need to hear about the production hell that is Attack on Titan and how MAPPA was screwed from the jump.

@thelegacyofgaming2928

3 жыл бұрын

Honestly, both Mappa and Wit post season 1 were screwed.

@Maisonier

3 жыл бұрын

​@@thelegacyofgaming2928 That's because MAPPA only care about money ... they shouldn't accepted this. We could have to wait 2 years more for WIT to animate the final season ... but at least could be well done, or at least how this anime deserves...

@Jordstain16

3 жыл бұрын

@@Maisonier no you couldn't

@Maisonier

3 жыл бұрын

@@Jordstain16 yes

@theoisdead4962

3 жыл бұрын

@@Maisonier i don't think you ever had a job in your life lol

WIT recently has opened a Kickstarter for their feature length film adaptation of "Girl from the other side", and it reached its goal in a day and doubled that after. With how successful a kickstarter for such a niche manga was you would think making one for the most popular anime out there would be pretty logical. I just hope more Studios do this since there is no shortage of people who would like to help and support animators and studios and get a great product as a result.

I swear this is the best KZread channel, thanks for such detailed research. As a follower of AOT I must say that I have not lost any of my love for the series, I think this last season has been good, although obviously not at the same level as the first seasons, particularly in the action scenes and the look of the titans, btw I don't think the CGI looks bad at all, but it's certainly no better than 2d animation, anyway it's impressive what MAPPA animators has achieved in such a short time, I seriously hope they have a good vacation period after this, and for the second part, or movie, they finally have the time necessary to demonstrate everything they are capable of, because they have a lot of talent and the series deserves to end in the best possible way.

@DarthJex

3 жыл бұрын

You mean it’s not as good as the previous seasons in terms of animation, right? Because in terms of storytelling it is the best AoT has ever been.

@distama

3 жыл бұрын

@@DarthJex yes, animation

@oreki8707

3 жыл бұрын

@@DarthJex not really some episodes were rushed, some cuts are wierd and iconic moments are ruined

when I saw the aot mappa art style, I realized how beautiful the wit studio animated s1 to s3

"This is the best the Armored Titan has looked since Episode 2." THANK YOU!!!!!

@hyninjax4897

2 жыл бұрын

It wasn't the same, I think

I really hope Mappa/Wit take all the time they need before the start airing Final season part 2. Just take the time already. Season 2 looked glorious. it was worth the wait

@derpynerdy6294

3 жыл бұрын

i hope they team up!! probably my only dream

@827023685

3 жыл бұрын

well tell that to the production committee that denied them extra time when they requested

@ImExit

3 жыл бұрын

Bro if WiT actually return to make S4 part 2 and given a healthy schedule I would literally cry of happiness

@zurielbabida8162

3 жыл бұрын

Wtf do you mean "/WIT" Watch the video. WIT is not coming back smh. Also they probably wont get more time to animate because its not their call

@gtafan110010

3 жыл бұрын

@@zurielbabida8162 Never say never. Madhouse literally said the same thing about never doing sequels. And WIT already did 3 seasons. So yeah. It's nothing crazy to say WIT might want to involve itself, even if it's more likely MAPPA will fix it. And speaking of. There is a big chance MAPPA will have more time to animate the 2nd half. The committe had set a deadline for final season to air very early on, but that was still also in reference to WIT finishing their product in the first place. Just look at other Mappa products and it's not hard to see they take their time when possible. They aren't looking for a big backlash due to overwork of staff. So yeah, pretty big chance they will take their time more for the next part.

who else is watching this right before episodes 73 and 74 drops?

@bastienbongers8036

3 жыл бұрын

They were amazing

@teomankaya769

3 жыл бұрын

Both was amazing especially the ost choices for both eps🔥

I'm so glad this did not turn into no 3D animation my god it would have been bad 😂😂 I mean the 2D with 3D is what I love for especially season 1 animation and then Levi vs Kenny Season 3 now that was pure hand drawn hard work

Watching this makes me understand why Mappa is releasing season 4 part 2 in 2022. I would even want them to take a longer time if that means they are mentally and physically well. Please take as much time as you need Mappa!!

@meawiyaothman7872

3 жыл бұрын

It won’t be much better than part 1

@LuisManChelosWorld

2 жыл бұрын

@@meawiyaothman7872 That didn't age well.

@meawiyaothman7872

2 жыл бұрын

@@LuisManChelosWorld True, Part 2 is very splendid. Mappa really made me shout my damn mouth

@jamrah8713

2 жыл бұрын

@@LuisManChelosWorld Yup it looks way better than part 1, and the latest episode was amazing

Good points here the show may not be as beautifully animated as it once was but it is still good and i hope that for the next part or movies they are given the proper time and resources etc to do just as was well as jjk , goh, dororo etc the situation is unforunate but the product still turned out to be soild for this first part

This video was so well put together!!

Truly this channel covers stuff which most of the channels don't!, really appreciate you taking time to bring out the one of the best anime breakdowns!

I had forgotten about all those great animation sequences from season 1. Holy heck these were so good!!

The only problem of CGI i have with the MAPPA final season is Eren's titan. All the other titans are great. Especially the Warhammer titan and the armored titan. Eren's titan looks too much like a stiff rubber dummy with fake muscles. I think it's the lack of any texture/fur/armor that's usually on all the other titans that makes Eren's look pretty bad.

@peeper2070

3 жыл бұрын

I don’t mind his movement, it’s mainly his face in 2 or 3 parts which is weird because that means it’s something to do with the model (idk much about animation), not the actual movement.

@thetrickster240

3 жыл бұрын

@@peeper2070 Yeah, I'm in total agreement with that. It's was the only thing that really threw me off for the declaration of war/revenge episodes

@rez8248

3 жыл бұрын

Madea me realize how thicker lines helped with eren's titan form.

@erufailon4723

3 жыл бұрын

I guess they tried to replicate the Wit look of Eren's titan which is why it doesn't have as much texture as others

@thetrickster240

3 жыл бұрын

@Bal D. guy They'll probably fix it for the Blueray

This was the best educational documentary that I have ever seen about animation! Impressive work sir & massive respect!

This was an amazing video! Enjoyed watching the whole thing!

This is the first show introduced me to Anime and watched more anime’s but AOT cannot be replaced tbh.. the story, the animation, and specially the Music! ❤️

Seeing these beautiful and smooth animations puts a smile to my face

Great video! Very insightful and a real eye opener

What a great video :), really, this is one of the best videos a ever seen

I'm not a casual viewer of AOT but do listen to the soundtrack by Hiroyuki Sawano often when I'm either chilling or working out.

For 8 months, I think MAPP did wonderful but man in the long run this won’t really age well. Looking back on this season years from now and rewatching it will always be annoying seeing the slight quality drop. Idk who tf told kodansha we were impatient lol I would’ve been fine with a 2 year gap so we could receive a high quality finale for this masterpiece

@bletrick3352

3 жыл бұрын

Even an extra 4 months would've been enough to polish up all the episodes. Could've easily waited until this summer. But of course the manga had to end in April so they rushed the final season to boost manga sales. Sickening.

@Matpeixelegal

3 жыл бұрын

What about part 2? I mean, the manga is over so there's no reason to rush the anime

@generalgrievous3731

Жыл бұрын

It's a massive downgrade. You're being too generous calling it a "slight" quality drop

@user-og6pb6dd5p

Жыл бұрын

​@@generalgrievous3731not Really. Season 3 part 2 is actually worse

@generalgrievous3731

Жыл бұрын

@@user-og6pb6dd5p It had Levi vs. Beast Titan, Eren delivering the final blow to the colossal, the Beast Titan throwing rocks, and other sequences featuring excellent animation. Sure, the CGI colossal looked super janky, but I honestly prefer having high highs and low lows than everything being mid

Probably the most interesting video I've ever seen. Incredible job!.

Outstanding piece this is Canipa.

How did we come from Character Designers having contest for designing characters to the CD not even taking part in the entire season.

@augustusplays7896

3 жыл бұрын

because mappa is trash

@himankdayal7013

3 жыл бұрын

@@augustusplays7896 said by the guy who hasn't seen any mappa animes except for aot s4

@augustusplays7896

3 жыл бұрын

@@himankdayal7013 idgaf what they did somewhere else. Im judging them on aot.

@DamageMaximo

3 жыл бұрын

@@augustusplays7896 That's a way of sounding like a clown, there are some animes with good *_animation_* made by MAPPA recently, just look at the first episodes of The God Of Highschool and the first episode of Jujutsu Kaisen

@augustusplays7896

3 жыл бұрын

@@DamageMaximo how stupid are you? God of high school can be the best animated in history, so what? Dosent mean they didn't shit the bed with aot. You can get an A in maths and F in bio. They got an F in aot. Hence they are dogshit to me

kabaneri is the chef kiss of seasonal animation graphics check lighting check movements check camera angles check landscapes check

@StiKyou14

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah but it lacks a catchy history

@derpynerdy6294

3 жыл бұрын

@@StiKyou14 yeah the story is the most ok or eh but hey good visuals and the fight scenes are superB in every fight

@TexYMatt98

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah but the story and the characters are meh, on the technical side is really good show but as a whole is not really worth the time. Just watch sakuga in youtube and enjoy it as what it is.

@derpynerdy6294

3 жыл бұрын

@@TexYMatt98 yeah like i said the story is meh

:D glad to see this video, thank you for the hard work you do.

Thank. you so much for the honest and objective video covering Attack on Titan's animation (especially season 4) lol so many people would benefit from watching your video.

Wit studio and ufotable are the kings of 3D backgrounds with 2D characters. Always looks sooooo sick! Mappa up there too! When they have time at least lol

@Mirage475

3 жыл бұрын

Jujutsu Kaisen has some of the slickest uses of 2D fight sequences with 3D backgrounds. If only Mappa had more time

@Pyrtuch

3 жыл бұрын

@@Mirage475 JJK is one of the worst examples you could've used, the compositing in that show is often so off-putting it's not even funny, the 3D backgrounds are far from being well integrated with everything else.

@Mirage475

3 жыл бұрын

@@Pyrtuch Yikes, there's always one

@-MankoMan

3 жыл бұрын

@@Mirage475 He is objectively right in this case. Atleast try to differentiate between "criticism" and "hatred" before you say "tHeRe'S AlWaYs OnE GuY". JJK's compositing is so bad that it almost ruins the good action sequences. Just look at the beginning of episode 11. Nanami's scene, animated by the genius Keiichirou Watanabe, almost looks bad because of how awful the 3D is coupled with the horrible compositing with a flat background that dosen't mix well at all. Another example is gojo fight in episode 7, where it looks like 2 well animated characters are fighting inside a PS2 game. JJK has some of the best animation coupled with the worst photography and compositing that I've seen in anime.

@TheEmotionalPotatoe

3 жыл бұрын

@@Mirage475 He is kind of right though

The jab at Wada, I love it!

Great video as always

Canipa, you are incredible, man. Amazing Video, took my breath away.

Season 4 Part 2 was a major improvement across the board. I definitely got the feeling that the staff working on this season felt much more comfortable after part 1 now that they had a firm foundation to build upon with a still tight but more forgiving schedule.

"Let's go back to 2013" proceeds to show Miley riding a wrecking ball

@TheCanipaEffect

3 жыл бұрын

It's the only thing I remember from that year

@theworld4152

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheCanipaEffect I respect you for making this on my requests

@raawesome3851

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheCanipaEffect haha. Fair enough.

Thanks for this vid Man this must of taken so much work out of you

@TheCanipaEffect

3 жыл бұрын

I'm never making a video this long again XD

Brilliant work, man!! I enjoyed everything and many new information about the production amd the team behind. And no Wit isn't anymore the attack on Titans Studio in my eyes, Vinnland Saga is amazing too. I pray for a Season 2.

Great video! Now looking forawrd to the MAPPA one. Just one mistake I noticed, Section 6 didn't create Psycho-Pass. That show was handled by Section 5 lead by animation producer Kawaguchi Toru (previous works: Ghost Hound, xxxHOLiC, Sky Crawlers, Blood-C). At IG it seems that usually "animation producers" like Kawaguchi and Nakatake cover only one section at the time while "producers" like Wada produce works for more than one section at the time. Not sure how it's now since I noticed Kuroki Rui has been working on multiple shows at once for some time now as an "animation producer".

@-MankoMan

3 жыл бұрын

I guess it's just that psycho pass is so good that most people (me included) just assumed it was made by section 6.

@glupirobot9115

3 жыл бұрын

@@-MankoMan Psycho-Pass started airing in October 2012, 5 months after Wit's creation so if it were made by section 6 it would have been labeled as Wit studio show. Section 6's portfolio sure was great, besides Guilty Crown, Kimi ni Todoke and Sengoku Basara they created Real Drive and Le Chevalier D'Eon which are both not really that known and are quite underrated shows. That said, the most impressive section was section 9 as they created Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex, Seirei no Moribito and Eden of the East.

Arifumi Imai is Brilliant. I can only hope Mappa considers to hire him as an adviser atleast for the last action scenes... The fight angles on Titans and scouts are just too brilliantly choreographed make the scenes come alive. That's what S4 lacks... No issue with 3D cgi, just doesn't feel cinematic enough because of the angles and decision made by characters during fights

@Hanfgurkenhasser

3 жыл бұрын

I've heard somewhere that freelancers tend to have their social network of people they appreciate and like and with whom they work together - this was the case for WIT and (I think) the director Araki - Mappa doesn't have the connections to Imai, hence why I doubt he will show up or even answer their calls. Just wish WIT had finished the job with a good schedule, Araki and Imai provided excellent sakuga moments that are among the best you can find in anime, period.

@Matpeixelegal

3 жыл бұрын

I hope he comes back. But since the direction of Hayashi is so lame when compared to araki's, i don't think it would be a drastic difference

@marshalsoult3860

3 жыл бұрын

@@Matpeixelegal i hope he doesn’t ending is already trash

Very informative. Thank you!

Great video! Very informative. You've got a new subscriber~

Nice video👏🏿 Arifumi Imai will stay my fav animator for his dedication for now, even if other animators like Nakamura or Yamamura are legends in the industry too

THE VID IS FINALLY HERE

I LOVE this channel Thank you ❤️

The best KZread channel ever, Great video as usual!

Attack on Titan honestly has the best background animation

I was impressed by what the MAPPA staff was able to do in the time they had. I can't condone overworking the staff though. We also can't forget this was during the height of the pandemic. But they still delivered a very strong first half imo. The improvements on the Blu-ray look really great too. WIT set the bar but let's not forget to highlight the amazing things MAPPA brought to the table. I wish you used clips of Armin's colossal aftermath which gave off strong Evangelion vibes!! And it was 2D. Or the gorgeous animation in one of the series best episodes, Sole Salvation with Zeke igniting the thunderspear. Or the soul crushing but beautifully adapted Assassin's Bullet episode and etc.

Holy sh*t man, it’s been ages! Hope you’re doing well! Fantastic video!

exellent hardwork,should deserve more views!!!!!

man, imagine if wit studios had maken season 4 omg it would have been amazing. i hope tha in the future they gather the same super team that worked in season 2 and 3 to do a remake of season 4

@wilocos1

3 жыл бұрын

@@austejagakstyte3879 That's why it should be a remake of the season.

We all probably have different view about Aot studio in general but there's one thing we all can agree with and that both studio had terrible working schedules.

@chainjaw8013

Жыл бұрын

no doubt

Amazing video honestly

Thank for your video !

Incredible video !

@TheCanipaEffect

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

That 3D part explains a lot about why houses and environments always look slightly different than the characters.

Mother of god I’ve never watched you before but after seeing this intro and the video’s quality I’m loving this already

@TheCanipaEffect

3 жыл бұрын

Welcome!

Really solid video, surprised it doesn't have more views

Season 1, 2 and 3 were amazing. The quality of animation in these seasons is absolutely god tier. All thanks to WIT Studio. WIT studio is reason behind the success of AOT in the first place. Thank you so much WIT studio for this masterpiece.

@omkarpathak9880

3 жыл бұрын

@Eren Jäger Agreed. Actually I stopped watching Season 4 after watching Eren vs War Hammer titan because I couldn't bare it. In my opinion, Season 4 was horrible.

@omkarpathak9880

3 жыл бұрын

@@patrick6361 Yes Buddy. Absolutely Correct.

@joshuathomas512

3 жыл бұрын

@@omkarpathak9880 haha good, don't need u to watch anyway, the story is incredible

@thelegacyofgaming2928

3 жыл бұрын

#ThankyouWit

@thelegacyofgaming2928

3 жыл бұрын

@@joshuathomas512 Yea, I read the manga already so I agree on the story.

21:47 'Attack on Titan season 2 is the only sequel they ever did' Oh-oh, now I feel anxious for Vinland Saga.

@matengaro

3 жыл бұрын

Fuck... You're right....

@DR-pt2gk

3 жыл бұрын

I hate that thought that studios have. The same happened with madhouse. Why the hell do you do a first season, and even put post-credit scenes at the end of the season, if you know that you don't want to and that you're not going to do a second season? Or a kind of continuation ... Any series that is not finished or that does not have a continuation intention is a waste and does not deserve to be recommended to anyone, it does not matter if its first season is spectacular.

honestly mappa and wit are good in their own respective right, especially with the tone changing with season 4. good duality

Nice video thank you! CG can be awesome in animation, just has to be done right! Time, money and the right team!!

Great insight into the production. WIT was really able to up the source material. While I don't hate the new season or staff I do really wish WIT could have taken more time or planned work better to complete the series. My biggest complaint is with the character designs, and color design. The MAPPA season is very pink and navy, while WIT's color palette is much brighter. MAPPA doesn't have enough yellow even in scene that occur in broad daylight.

@bigeggzal

3 жыл бұрын

I agree !! especially miss the previous character art lol

Hayashi is great but i think Tetsuro Araki is still the best director of Aot. Nothing can change my mind. His direction is really suitable for Aot.

@CGRADT

3 жыл бұрын

Jun shisido is great too

Nice video!!!You are the only personal who dont take side of a studio and evaluate them equaly!Also can you please make a video about Hellsing Ultimate?

For me, it's the story that drives the show! I often find my self caught up in the plot, dialogue, voice acting, and camera angles instead of noticing the animation (from either studio) and I often find my self rewinding so I can just focus on the artwork