It's almost impossible to get videos like this one. The deepness, precision and utility is amazing. I hope you'll be able to bring more videos like this to your channel. Thank you Mafiul Robin and Legendary Tactics!

@LegendaryTactics

2 жыл бұрын

We aim to do that as much as we can! Thank you so much for your kind words, and for watching!

@MafiulRobin

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you Pedro.

@rumblefx0

Жыл бұрын

Agreed, loved the insight, but some more visual "support" of what is being explained would be very useful as well.

@LegendaryTactics

3 ай бұрын

Agreed. It was hard for the visuals to keep up with all the great ideas though, so I had to opt for something more general...

Thank you for having me.

@LegendaryTactics

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for your amazing strategy advice! I am sure many people will benefit and play better Brass Birmingham!

@jitapriyadas9601

Жыл бұрын

Can I watch you play this game? Perhaps you can consider sharing your playthrough videos 😊

@LegendaryTactics

3 ай бұрын

Yes! We did a few videos where Mafiul plays: kzread.info/dash/bejne/n5d-2aiJns2Zgto.html and kzread.info/dash/bejne/hYqNrdujdq_OoLA.html

53:10 Most valuable links: Shresbury - Coolbrookdale Birmingham - Oxford Birmingham - Walsall Birmingham - Nuneaton Birmingham - Coventry Nuneaton - Coventry Burton-On-Trent - Derby Derby - Nottingham Derby - Uttoxetter Uttoxeter - Stone Burton-On-Trent - Stone Stone - Stafford

@MafiulRobin

2 жыл бұрын

Lovely

@LegendaryTactics

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for writing them out so people can easily reference them!

@asf0

5 ай бұрын

Anyone have a 2 player best rail links list?

Excellent guide! I just tried this strategy against the hard-level Mautoma solo (which I can usually defeat by a few points) and crushed my previous high score, winning 227-178. Canal Era was definitely the biggest change, as I built only 1 canal (on turn 2 for iron) and developed the level 1 beer/coal and level 2 cotton. Normally I would build about 5 or 6 canals for VP and network expansion, but now I see how much of a mistake that was. On the final turn of the game, I sold every level 4 cotton for the first time ever.

Thank you for this amazing video. I watched this last night, and today, I'm fundamentally better at the game. The sad fact of the matter is, I thought I was good at this game.

@LegendaryTactics

2 жыл бұрын

With great games there is always more to learn!

@Jacob-qr8pl

Ай бұрын

​@LegendaryTactics I don't know. I'm quite the Candy Land pro 😄

Awesome Strategy Guide. Honored that I got to play with Mafiul bhai in person

@LegendaryTactics

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you! I imagine playing him would have been a big challenge!

@dhruboisgood

2 жыл бұрын

@@LegendaryTactics yupp! But he's an awesome guy to play with.

@MafiulRobin

2 жыл бұрын

The honor is mine.

Thanks for the amazing indepth video, I finally feel like I have the game atleast a bit under control. And even though I still made mistakes, I went 155 VPs in the first 4-player game, which is a major improvement 💪😉

@LegendaryTactics

Жыл бұрын

That's amazing! Great job!

@MafiulRobin

Жыл бұрын

Excellent 🎉

Also I didn't know that you can sell multiple industries at once, this is game changer

@LegendaryTactics

3 ай бұрын

Awesome! I hope it helped you improve your gameplay!

Incredibly, unfathomably, supremely based. Tyvm

@LegendaryTactics

2 жыл бұрын

You're welcome!

Brilliantly analyzed and explained! Thank you very much!

@LegendaryTactics

2 жыл бұрын

You're welcome! Thank you for watching!

Fantastic guide, Mafiul is a great teacher and the host does a good job of summing up each point. One question I did have is in regards to the "early game" section. In it, Mafiul points out that first player should look to spend the least so they can get first again the following round. This makes sense and should be obvious even to casual gamers. However where I get lost is in the suggestion that immediately following that first round, the first player should look to build an iron works. This is once again a great idea, but the issue I keep running into is where does one find the coal for it?? He seems to be suggesting that this can be accomplished on its own but I could be misinterpreting it. Is he saying that one should look for an opportunity to build iron specifically in a city that already has a coal mine placed in it by another player in the first turn? Who would do such a thing and give up the first ironworks so easily? In theory it seems like a fantastic plan to play the first ironworks I'm just confused as to what the granular details of doing so would look like. Thanks to anyone who can shed some light.

@MafiulRobin

2 жыл бұрын

From round two there are always two actions in a round for player. So player can make link to connect marchant for coal and then make iron. We have some gameplay videos as well where we demonstrate strategies we talked about.

@LegendaryTactics

2 жыл бұрын

Here is the link to that game: kzread.info/dash/bejne/n5d-2aiJns2Zgto.html

Love the way he pronounces cotton.

@LegendaryTactics

2 жыл бұрын

Hope you got some great value from the guide as well! Thanks for watching!

Hello - We tried this game several times but sold it back: My group was feeling like "working" LOL Now back to our TFMars, Wingspan, Eclipse, Star Wars Rebellion and others like Beyond the Sun!

@LegendaryTactics

2 жыл бұрын

To each their own - I was worried that Brass would be a slog, but I was pleasantly surprised! For us, it played very smoothly.

Thank you for the video, it really gives a good idea on proper adaptive strategies!

@LegendaryTactics

2 жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching!

Awesome video !!

@LegendaryTactics

2 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

Wonderful and instructive video! Thank you

@LegendaryTactics

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for watching! We're glad you got some good ideas from it!

Just bought the game and trying to get an understanding of all the rules and strategies before I recieve it next week.

@weenewsboy

Жыл бұрын

I play a decent amount of games with Catan being my most common go to. I wanted a more complex and deep resource management game. In Catan I have a decent success rate due to my agressive trade/play style. Hoping that I can bring my manipulation to a more complex resource management game.

@LegendaryTactics

Жыл бұрын

How has your experience been?

@weenewsboy

Жыл бұрын

@@LegendaryTactics after a few months now it is probably one of the best games owned. Though it takes twice as long as other games it doesn't feel bad with each Era feeling diffrent. It took couple games to fully understand how to play but videos like this definitely helped. Compared to others at my table I loan early and develop more which has me winning most games. In 2nd Era I hit the track and collect as much high value railways as possible.

Great stuff keep going.

@LegendaryTactics

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you! We will!

Good One

@LegendaryTactics

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for saying so, and for watching!

What do you say about lacking iron form the publisher? (Even in a 2-player game it can happen that there are too few irons.)

28:00 He starts talking about making level 1 Cotton which is confusing. Did he mean to say level 1 Coal? Level 1 Cotton should already be developed.

@MafiulRobin

2 жыл бұрын

You are right, I wanted to say "Level 1 Coal", instead I said "Level 1 Cotton" by mistake. My apologies.

@LegendaryTactics

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for clarifying!

@LegendaryTactics

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for bringing this to everyone's attention so Mafiul can clarify! It's important that we get those details right!

I tried the Cotton-Strategy against the ai, including developing up to level 3. I was only able to build one cotton lvl 1 in the canal era, it took too many actions to build iron, cole and beer to be able to build and flip this one cotton. But I was able to build 2 more in the rail era and won the game, even if it was close. But I had way more industry VP than the AI, which was a nice bonus. How many cotton are you able to build using the strategy explained at 28:00?

@MafiulRobin

2 жыл бұрын

You should develop all L1 & L2 Cotton and start making from L3. You should make at least two L3 Cotton and try for 3rd one if possible. In Rail era you are expected to make 2-3 Cottons as well. Do not make L1 Cotton or Beer, develop them. If you make L1 Iron & Coal, consider overbuilding them when necessary.

@ErfanMalekani-cb7yr

10 ай бұрын

Where are you playing with ai?online or app?I really need to play more

I am a new comer for Brass Birmingham and thank you for your strategy guide and also for one steam playthrough. I could not see any more playthrough videos from you or other youtubers for stream. Are you planning to add more Brass playthrough videos for steam?. thanks

@LegendaryTactics

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, we are recording another video tomorrow, for release next week! Stay tuned!

Would it be possible for Mafiul bhai to do a similar video about Lancashire?

@LegendaryTactics

2 жыл бұрын

I'll ask him!

@MafiulRobin

2 жыл бұрын

I am very sorry Jim. I do not have much knowledge about Lancashire yet.

@HalloikbenJim

Жыл бұрын

@@MafiulRobin No problem at all, thanks for your answer!

It should be noted that the strategy advice for 4 player is good for beginner to intermediate play, but tends to underperform to more specialized strategies at higher levels. Beer is too scarce for everyone to play it, so it makes more sense for main industry players to not play their own beer and instead go fully into their industry and flip other players' beer. Taking a more holistic approach and temporarily cooperating with other players will yield better returns than trying to compete as players gain more experience. This approach also makes cotton a much stronger strategy - note that their VP/action is much better by placing and selling an additional level III cotton in the canal era rather than trying to develop and play beer.

@MafiulRobin

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for taking time to analyze the strategies and responding. For a successful strong cotton play one has to make at least two Level three cotton and flip them with own two level two beers. And they have to do it in addition to to making level two and level three irons. And all of these has to be done in Canal era. In three and four player game there will not be enough action to do all these. That is why it's (strong cotton play) only possible two players count which has more actions and manufacturing strategy is more viable in three and four player count as that need few actions. Mainly the extra action needed to develop all level one and two cottons actually prohibates cotton in higher player count as there are not enough action left after making all irons and beer in canal era. We have practical example video of 3-4P gameplay, after watching that you will also understand why we couldn't have spent anymore action anywhere else. In overwhelming majority games this is true in all skill level games, however sometime in rare situation things can be different. But those are exceptions. Soon we'll have a two players example game play Strategy Video where you'll see cotton strategy for two player games.

@prj_tv2612

2 жыл бұрын

@@MafiulRobin where you say 'one has to make at least two Level three cotton and flip them with own two level two beers.' is 100% not true, and you can simply do the math to see why that is. Placing a 3rd level III cotton instead of developing and placing 2 level II beers costs only 1 action and gets you 21 points, vs. 3 actions for 20 points. Even if you account for the canal potentially needed for the 3rd cotton, it's 2 actions for 23+ points vs. 3 actions for 20 points. It's absolutely more efficient to ignore beer as a cotton player in 4 player, you just need to have the beer coming from somewhere. Luckily, players playing beer are heavily incentivized to supply beer to cotton players! When you compare points from beer vs. points from manufactured goods, it's obvious that it's better, if possible, to simply play more beer. 2 level II manufactured goods only gives 20 points for 3.5 actions. If I can place a 3rd or 4th beer, that's 14-28 points in 1-2 actions! Even if they don't get flipped, that's still more efficient. Even when accounting for canals to connect beer to cotton, this is still more efficient in terms of points, actions, cost, and income than playing 2 level II beers and 2 level II manufactured goods. I'm not unfamiliar with the strategies you're describing - they've been around since shortly after the game was released years ago, and unfortunately, they will tend to underperform against players temporarily cooperating with each other. The strategies I'm describing are also based on tournament Brass: Lancashire play, so there is some precedent for thinking about the game this way.

@MafiulRobin

2 жыл бұрын

Dear@@prj_tv2612, Thank you for your insightful comment. From my practical experience of more than 400 Brass Birmingham games with more than 150 players including some tournaments, I have to respectfully disagree with you. You have an excellent strategy and there are some other extremely good strategies as well. But these has some major problems and none are reliable enough for consistent good result like the one we mentioned. Here I will explain some of main problems with your mentioned strategy in 3-4 Players Games: Not making own beer and depending on consuming opponents beer can not be part of a consistent reliable strategy, it is too much dependent on opponent's choice. There is high risk of not been able to flip valuable cotton industry in canal era. High victory point printed on tiles alone doesn't mean much unless you consider all actions you have to take until flip it. Making many high value cotton is very expensive and very dependent on market price both Iron and Coal, it might require extra action for taking Loan and it might be extra difficult to become positive income. On the other hand making beer is one of the most efficient Cost Per Victory Point. By not making beer, it is giving opponent chance to make more extra beer which is most cost effective victory point for them and consuming all their beer instead of own is denying self from getting those victory point. Not making Beer in canal means not securing any beer spot for rail era for potential self overbuilt if it is necessary specially to flip very high value industries. It is very hard to steal opponents beer in canal era as those places might not be connected and there will not be extra actions to make additional canals to connect those beers. Again all of these true for a 3-4P game only as actions are more limited. And we are prioritizing strategy to help win very consistently, not in rare lucky situations. It will be also very helpful for everyone if you could give any source link of this exact strategy published before us.

@LegendaryTactics

2 жыл бұрын

Love the debate, guys! When done well, these kinds of discussions are great teaching tools as well!

@libertyprime9307

9 ай бұрын

The reason you can't focus Main Industries and ignore Breweries is, you can't always rely on other players to give you Beer. They might try to deprive you of Beer, knowing you can't Sell without it. Merchant Beer might be available, but is there enough of it? What if a player spends their own Beer building Rails and uses the merchant Beer you needed? It's very risky not building your own Beer, and also Beer is incredible value. The VP & Income is the highest in the game relative to the price.

I see this AI is everywhere already, I can see everything in polish here, even the title of this video. But it's all in English xD Good video btw. Difficult to listen because of accent, but good.

Question. How bout scout action? Is it ever worth doing? Also any comments on overbuilding?

@MafiulRobin

Жыл бұрын

If it is necessary to complete the main strategy (building primary industry or beer) only then Scout action is worthy. But there should not be more than one Scout action in a game.

@LegendaryTactics

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for the clarification, Mafiul!

@MafiulRobin

Жыл бұрын

About overbuilding, always overbuilt level 1 iron.

Thank you so much. You covered big picture and round by round examples of strategies, perfect

@LegendaryTactics

7 ай бұрын

Yes, I think Mafiul did an amazing job! We are so grateful he took the time to share his insights with us

Fantastic. Thanks!

@LegendaryTactics

2 жыл бұрын

Glad you liked it!

I'd be interested to see how this is similar/different to Brass Lancashire (the one I have). Is Birmingham the better version? Did I get the wrong one?

@LegendaryTactics

2 жыл бұрын

I personally prefer Birmingham, as I find Lancashire more fiddly. But there is a case to own both of them - they are different enough!

@MafiulRobin

2 жыл бұрын

Brass Birmingham is more modern, streamlined, forgiving, beginner friendly.

@zerathul13

2 жыл бұрын

@@MafiulRobin I'm always a bit surprised to see Lancashire getting the lower complexity rating on BGG, given its reputation for being much more cutthroat.

@MafiulRobin

2 жыл бұрын

@@zerathul13 I don't know much about Lancashire but if I have to guess, maybe because of learning difficulty or managing beer for selling. But I can be wrong.

@liamwacey807

2 жыл бұрын

Have you since played Birmingham? What are your thoughts on the differences? To be frank I would have to say that although Lancashire is a fantastic game, Birmingham is at minimum a slight improvement across all metrics. Lancashire can feel very "solved" as the reduced number of possible industries means there's a much smaller range of directions you can go in any particular game. That being said it is a game which rewards tighter play more highly, as less options means more rewards for those that see them available.

what application is he playing on? is that TTS?

@LegendaryTactics

3 ай бұрын

Yep, we used Tabletop Simulator for this video. We did a video on how to use it: kzread.info/dash/bejne/dWaMmNihnavdoZs.html

Have you/ can you release this as a podcast?

@LegendaryTactics

2 жыл бұрын

We have considered releasing some of our videos as a podcast, but we haven't gotten around to it/haven't figured it out yet...

Great video! Just wondering how do you build iron on the first turn? It needs a coal.

@libertyprime9307

Жыл бұрын

The only way is if another player built a Link between a Market connection and the location you want to build an Ironworks. The Coal can travel along another player's network.

Hi, what do you mean at 32:40 by : both level 2 manufacture dosen't need any coal? I mean...they cost coal to build dont they?

@ethanwilson5408

Жыл бұрын

Level 2 manufacturing only costs iron so you can drop it anywhere

Is that Covetous Shen from Diablo 3?

@MafiulRobin

2 жыл бұрын

Ha Ha :D I spent so many countless hours in D3.

@LegendaryTactics

2 жыл бұрын

I have no idea what that means, but I am glad Mafiul understands it! :)

Other than Iron and Pottery, is there ever any reason to build a level 1 industry?

@MafiulRobin

2 жыл бұрын

Not really 👍

@LegendaryTactics

2 жыл бұрын

I guess they're there as an option, but mostly you need to Develop through them!

@SaschaKleiber

2 жыл бұрын

Why not? Coal can get emptied quicker e.g.? Also building it only once gives you less coal? Don’t understand that Tipp… also the Tipp with overbuilding, why do you save an action? Overbuilding also costs one action.

@MafiulRobin

2 жыл бұрын

@@SaschaKleiber Usually if you make iron work in a new location, you also have to make a link. Overbidding level 1 iron work will save that link action. You'll lose Level 1 iron work vp but with that saved action you would do something greater.

Why are u not showing all the plays he is talking about instead of just randomly zooming around?

@LegendaryTactics

2 жыл бұрын

It was going to be too difficult and involved to illustrate everything he was going over, especially at the speed he was covering the material. I'm sorry that the footage doesn't really match up - I started to do that when I started the edit and realized it was going to be pretty tough to pull off.

but regards to the so-called misconception: try NOT to take the merchant beer over own beer.... I thot it is sometimes, it is not possible. Consuming beer needs to follow the nearest beer rule?

@tomevans1245

2 жыл бұрын

You can actually take your beer from anywhere on the map. If it's someone else beer or the merchant beer I think it has to be closest

@palmcrazysg

2 жыл бұрын

@@tomevans1245 I mean if u wish to consume your own beer but there is one owned by others which is closer, are we forced to take that one? Or can we still choose to take your own beer despite it being further.

@MafiulRobin

2 жыл бұрын

@@palmcrazysg You do not have to consume nearest beer.

@RichiusofAramoor

Жыл бұрын

@@palmcrazysg the nearest rule only applies to coal…

Hard to understand.

@LegendaryTactics

2 жыл бұрын

The depth of the strategy is a lot to absorb, but it will get better with more game play

@MafiulRobin

2 жыл бұрын

@@LegendaryTactics Agree. This video is more easy to understand after a few plays experience. Re-Watch will definitely help.

@MafiulRobin

2 жыл бұрын

Please also consider watching the Brass Birmingham gameplay example videos we've made of these strategies. The purpose of those videos is clearer understanding of strategy.

@TheNoobsteak

2 жыл бұрын

@@MafiulRobin Thank you, I will!

@MafiulRobin

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheNoobsteak

MG is also strong in 2 player games. i usually get around 190 vp from cotton and pottery, and my wife gets around 200 vp using both MG and pottery. She is extremely good in this game So i assume your whole analysis is weak and superficial.

@MafiulRobin

2 жыл бұрын

Congratulations to you and your wife, you guys are fantastic. I myself also played this game 400 time and observed even more. I tested these strategies successfully in tournaments. My 2P height on Brass Digital is 241. My humble suggestion if you could kindly try this strategies in your future games and share your thought.

@aminzarei8078

2 жыл бұрын

@@MafiulRobin thanks a lot My lates scor is 225(cotton) vs 195(MG) I will surely use your strategies, thank you

@MafiulRobin

2 жыл бұрын

@@aminzarei8078 Most welcome. Also consider joining Brass Discord community (link in video description).

@LegendaryTactics

2 жыл бұрын

You are doing really well with those scores!

"There is less action...." Three grammar mistakes within four words. Incredible! Correct: There are fewer actions.

@LegendaryTactics

2 жыл бұрын

There is actually nothing incorrect, grammatically, about the phrase "There is less action". Though I do see your point that it may be preferable to say "There are fewer actions" to semantically express the thought.

@YSun

2 жыл бұрын

@@LegendaryTactics No, you won't see anyone write that way in formal scientific papers, because they are mistakes to avoid. Not even a single one of the three mistakes is tolerable.

@MafiulRobin

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you.