How embarrassing, he is more intelligent and truthful than the academics.

@redsword1659

9 ай бұрын

No, catch up.these ideas are debunked now. Science moved on.

@craigparker4108

9 ай бұрын

@@redsword1659 It's proven Pygmies from Cairns & Tassy were here earlier. Heaps of photographic evidence from Cairns. Are you aware of this or you deny history over a narrative like Bruce Pascoe.

@oopsydaizi3s824

9 ай бұрын

Ok Jen.

From back when the media actually carried out investigative reporting

I studied the Bradshaws when at uni in the 90’s. They are completely distinct from all other forms of art in the land, so culturally different, it is clear to see these people are lost to time to perhaps an ancient natural disaster. Humans have come and gone from these lands forever, like every other across the planet, they come and they go forever.

@redsword1659

9 ай бұрын

No incorrect. There are several stages which are all completely different in style. The reason they are different is because art changes in quick succession, compare Rembrandt to Picasso. Furthermore genetic science completely rules out a "mystery tribe" and so does all physical evidence.

@justaminute3111

9 ай бұрын

⁠@@redsword1659 okay, what about the World’s Oldest Continuous Culture, then? I am not sure that you can compare conscious changes in Western art, which is generally ego driven, with folk-type ceremonial culture represented by the rock paintings. That does not change rapidly or on a whim, like your examples. Also, genetic studies would only show something if the populations interbred and we actually knew which sequences to look for. Don’t forget 20 years ago the received wisdom was that humans were completely descended from people who left Africa relatively late. Then we finally decoded H. neanderthalis. Then, lo and behold, everyone who is not a sub-Saharan, has some Neanderthal genetics, plus Denisovans and other unknown Homo species.

@craigparker4108

9 ай бұрын

@@redsword1659 Total Lies. Pygmies of Cairns & Tassy have entered the chat. Have a look at Photos of Cairns Pygmies on Quadrant online. No Dingoes in Tassy as they were mostly forest dwellers. The oldest dingo bones, which are between 3,348 and 3,081 years old, came from Madura Cave on the Nullarbor Plain on the southern point of Western Australia. Every older Aussie learned & knew about the Pygmies. Go learn some history.

@MRFIXIT3895

8 ай бұрын

​@@justaminute3111yes you are right about Neanderthal they have boans found dating back 600.000. Years in a cave recently And if you have say 2% generic Eruption in your D/A Thats part of your lineage And in the last census there was 900.000 registered as Indigenous the last the one before was only 700.000 thousand funny when money is mentioned the population suddenly rose Its about time D/A was the only way to prover your entitlement .

@johnjoyce1073

8 ай бұрын

Did the pygmys paint them or to their demise?

Meanwhile, in 2023 we're being made to vote for ? A voice ! Who's voice ?

@redbomberr4594

9 ай бұрын

The voice of the city dwelling Aboriginals of course, the rest don't matter.

@mnemone1

8 ай бұрын

...and very diluted versions of "Aboriginals" so many of those "Inner City" latte sipping activists are.

@petersimpson6110

8 ай бұрын

EVERY election outcome was decided long before it was ever announced there even was an election... they have all been rigged since 1947, the , military are about to right it all... 2024 will be a great year.... wink wink

This is an absolutely underrated piece of information. I'm an aussie, and I'm into all this, I go bush regularly and explore. And I myself have never heard of this. Just shows how much this is not spoken about

@indigocheetah4172

9 ай бұрын

The video is old. Listening to the 'academics '. They refused to entertain the theory and especially now in the political correct BS.

@disgruntledunicorn007

9 ай бұрын

Goes against the 'always was, always will be' chant.

@redsword1659

9 ай бұрын

Its outdated and noone takes the "mystery tribe" idea seriously anymore. The idea fell to bits with advanced in technology.

@disgruntledunicorn007

9 ай бұрын

@@redsword1659 no, no, we are here taking it seriously. In fact we are talking about it to people in the real world far and wide. This 'outdated' footage is priceless.

@redsword1659

9 ай бұрын

@@disgruntledunicorn007 obviously, if you take something seriously even though it was refuted long ago, you are constructing a wall between yourself and knowledge.

This raises many questions about actual aboriginal history 🤔

@petersimpson6110

9 ай бұрын

Aboriginals were NOT here first, our true history is a lie written by the govt to control us. The truth is about to be revealed to us by our military in about xmas 2023, if you research Tartarians, and mud flood you will begin to question everything we have been told. Look at Flinders Station in Melbourne for one, it was told to us that men without cranes and power tools, with horse and buggy built this.... We do not have the technology today to build it lol. Tartaria was a race of very advanced people living here in Aust before aboriginal times, LONG before. Old records will show that the aboriginal were placed here in oz about 1000 years ago from Indonesia, even captain James Cooks stories were just that, BS. These futuristic buildings like Flinders station are all over Australia, oz was a thriving futuristic country, and then something happened... our captors reset.... the great mud flood. I am in the military, I know things today that you will be told of later, brace yourselves for a shocking history lesson....

@petersimpson6110

8 ай бұрын

Just reading over all the comments below, it seems that most have no idea, and some people have a bit of an idea... the truth of the matter is that every part of our education in schools was controlled by books and information made up by a group of people AKA our early government, dating back 200 years or so. Nothing you know today is correct, sciences, history, geography and more.... you would not believe just how much of what you all know is wrong. ALL those books and our true history is presently being corrected and printed by our military, soon it will be given to us all, and those who held us captors will be dealt with. Dont shoot me if you dont agree, just wait til early 2024, cause its coming whether you like it or not. Some spoilers for you.... no moon landing, flat earth, more land and people beyond Antarctica, cancer and aids are man made and have patents, humanity is being poisoned just enough to keep us sick and ever dependant on big pharm..... think before you insult me, I'm in the military, so I know whats coming.....

This man deserves so much recognition for the work he's put in, uncovering Australia's amazing past. Shame that compensation claims are more important

@kathysangel56

9 ай бұрын

It's Egyptian are they going to claim that as well as they did with Mungo man and women not the same DNA but sadly it got contaminated how could that happen

@kathysangel56

9 ай бұрын

We all know that we all know they weren't the first people these are Egyptian paintings

@kathysangel56

9 ай бұрын

His so accurate he knows what's going on see the money train will stop for the fatcats

@enterpassword3313

9 ай бұрын

​@@kathysangel56egyptian? What are you talking about?

@richardfinlayson1524

9 ай бұрын

​@@kathysangel56oh rubbish th hey don't look the slightest bit Egyptian

Academics don't like anyone who is not a Politically Correct Academic to find anything. This happens across all Acadamia. No mention of the Pectograph in WA either. According to the local Aboriginal people, they were done by the people who came before.

@dizzywilliams3557

9 ай бұрын

@grahamjohnbarr Coz no-one knows what a 'pectograph' is.

@grahamjohnbarr

9 ай бұрын

Delete Pectograph. Insert Petroglyph. But you knew that. Ay. @@dizzywilliams3557

@meganwilliams2962

9 ай бұрын

Pictograph or petroglyph?

@grahamjohnbarr

9 ай бұрын

Petroglyph @@meganwilliams2962

@caretakerfochr3834

9 ай бұрын

" According to the local Aboriginal people, they were done by the people who came before" - and therefore - to the latecomers - would qualify as aboriginal. Yeah, and they came from somewhere else - we all did.

Graham Walsh is clearly a level-headed person with great humanitarian insight. All the others who are looking for ulterior motives in his work are themselves palookas with ulterior motives.

@jameshatton4405

9 ай бұрын

Ol Joe Palooka could box himself out of a paper bag 🤣

@janhviljoen

9 ай бұрын

Wow, clever man!

@redsword1659

9 ай бұрын

Actually he is just wrong. Science moved on long ago.

@janhviljoen

9 ай бұрын

Nope, science has not moved on; politics have!

@cohort075

5 ай бұрын

⁠​⁠@@redsword1659 Did you not listen to the video? Even the aboriginal elders are divided on their origins. The only person who has done extensive research on these paintings is Graham Walsh. I bet you those women “academics” have never been out of their comfort zone to see them in the flesh, let alone travel across the Kimberly’s seeing and photographing them like Graham has. I’m sure they have only seen pictures of them in a textbook. They are protecting their grants. Science is never settled.

Since when is seeking the truth racist? The world needs truth not lies.

The profession of Archaeology in Australia is completely swamped by politics. I would 100% trust a local historical society over anything a University Archaeologist/Historian says. I remember researching the WW2 riots that occurred in Melbourne. One historian said the authorities covered it up. One quick look at the papers, through trove, and it was on page 3 of the papers. Which is the next best page next to page 1.

@petersimpson6110

8 ай бұрын

Totally agree, the Government has covered up HEAPS of things for their own reasons, and they also have been rigging EVERY election since 1947, Fed, state and local, its all about to come out courtesy of the military.

@petersimpson6110

8 ай бұрын

The 'Welcome to Country' Ceremony was invented in 1976 by Ernie Dingo and Richard Walley to welcome Maori performers. There is no Aboriginal word for a 'Welcome To Country' like the Maori's Haka. How can it be an 'ancient Ceremony' if there is no word for it. How could someone say "Who's going to perform the Welcome to Country ceremony"? The 'Acknowledgement of Country' was invented in the 1990s. The 'Smoking' Ceremony is, also, a recent invention. There is NO film or video evidence of any of these ceremonies at important events such as royal tours, the 1956 Olympics, etc, prior to the 1970s and 1990s.

The Bush Tucker Man, series 2 episode 3. Les Hiddins comes across some Bradshaw Rock Art in the Kimberly and arrives at the same conclusions as Grahame Walsh. He also states some locals disown the art and have been known to paint over them. Wouldn't be the first time people have tried to erase the past to ensure a current narrative is not challenged. Les also states that wherever you find this style of art Africa, Madagascar, India, you also find Boab trees and that the African and Aboriginal legend of the tree are the same, the tree got to big for its own good so the spirits pulled it out of the ground and planted it upside down. The Boab or Baobab has only existed in Australia for about 70,000 years, Hmmm.

@fireryfurnace

9 ай бұрын

I think Les also says the local aboriginals say the Bradshaw's were there before they aboriginals

@souptec

9 ай бұрын

@@fireryfurnace "The Gwion Gwion are not the region's earliest paintings. The earlier art consists of crude animal drawings that are believed to be up to 40,000 years old. The Gwion Gwion have nothing in common with this earlier art and first appeared following the peak of the most recent Pleistocene glacial maximum, which is dated between 26,500 and 20,000 years ago." Wikipedia.

@robosborne6514

9 ай бұрын

@rustynutts2. How uncanny you mention the Bush Tucker Man episode & right below this video is the exact video & about to watch now. It's also stated about the Pygmies being here before the Aboriginals whom supposedly wiped them out.

@Mortimus1000

9 ай бұрын

No tree older than 5,OOo years.

@leewright7623

9 ай бұрын

@@souptec with due respect, w pedi a isn’t a credible reference as far as I’ve experienced. 😊

Spoiler: they're not 20k years old, they're about 12k years old, and they appear to have been painted by someone other than current "Aboriginal" people, who are, not in fact aboriginal at all - they're more recent arrivals. The original inhabitants of Australia are long gone. Daily reminder: the dingo has only been here 3400 years and isn't native either. The famous woomera is also relatively recent, at about the same age, brought to Australia with a wave of migration.

@MungoManic

2 ай бұрын

Yep recent dating attempts put them around ~12 kya. There are some cultural connections between the Bradshaw culture and historical tribes but many differences. Culturally, the bradshaw people remind me more of Papuan tribes in the Fly river area. I agree the woomera is relatively recent but it appears towards the end of the Bradshaw era

I've often thought how similar the Bradshaw paintings are to those found in parts of Africa. Very similar style indeed.

Since the Mabo decision aboriginal activists have re-named the Bradshaw rock art 'Gwion Gwion'. They are making up the dream-time of this ancient rock art as they go along. It is no longer called Bradshaw rock art.

@petersimpson6110

9 ай бұрын

The Mabo act will soon be undone, it was done illegally and only to divide and concur our people, watch the media toward xmas, our entire govt is about to be arrested for treason and genocide, a military coup is imminent.... I am in that military...

@sereanaduwai8313

9 ай бұрын

That's where you wrong. Gwion Gwion was already called by Aboriginals. They were know also as Law Givers.

@petersimpson6110

9 ай бұрын

Everything the public know of their history is all fake, it was ALL stolen from us many thousands of years ago by a tiny group of rich controlling men, lets call them freemasons for now, as the real truth would make many pass out, it has all now been pieced together correctly and is about to be released to the people by the military, I am just one of 1000s on the team, so I know whats coming.... hopefully xmas 2023... google Tartaria and mud floods to begin... (Tartaria was a super advanced race of people living on earth and in Australia over 100,000 years, long before aboriginals, the aboriginal race was "Placed" here for a reason)@@sereanaduwai8313

@garyjohnstone6422

9 ай бұрын

Mabo irrelevant. Mabo concerned the Murray Islands, part of Melanesia not here. The judgement was a fix up by left wing socialist academics and left wing activist judges. A \total farce.@@MRFIXIT3895

@tonyryan43

9 ай бұрын

Eddie Mabo was a Murray Islander activist, not a traditionalist. His elders rejected all that he said. Activist judiciary supported him to serve their own agenda.@@MRFIXIT3895

Of course he is right at least in the position there were people in Australia before the early ancestors of aborigines as we know them. It is ridiculous in every way to even suggest that a group of people arrived 60,000 years ago and that everyone thereafter up to the point of colonisation were direct descendants of that first group. Clearly the occupation of Australia occurred in waves, and frankly, probably several waves, with the aborigines as they were in 1788, being representative of the last wave, not the first. He is also right about the politics - it is inconvenient to say the least, for it to be accepted the aborigines were just one of the groups who settled this continent, not the first and only before colonisation.

@petersimpson6110

9 ай бұрын

Aboriginals were NOT here first, our true history is a lie written by the govt to control us. The truth is about to be revealed to us by our military in about xmas 2023, if you research Tartarians, and mud flood you will begin to question everything we have been told. Look at Flinders Station in Melbourne for one, it was told to us that men without cranes and power tools, with horse and buggy built this.... We do not have the technology today to build it lol. Tartaria was a race of very advanced people living here in Aust before aboriginal times, LONG before. Old records will show that the aboriginal were placed here in oz about 1000 years ago from Indonesia, even captain James Cooks stories were just that, BS. These futuristic buildings like Flinders station are all over Australia, oz was a thriving futuristic country, and then something happened... our captors reset.... the great mud flood. I am in the military, I know things today that you will be told of later, brace yourselves for a shocking history lesson....

@intricacy9490

9 ай бұрын

I agree....there could well have been several migrations of humans into Australia. Science has evidence that dingoes arrived app. 5000 ya and this suggests that humans brought them. This suggests that therefore there could have been several movements of people into Australia. I'd imagine that over time the people inhabiting SE Asia and New Guinea may have been aware of the existence of a large land mass to their south. However, to get there required water craft suitable for open waters. There appears to be no evidence, other than ancient rock art, of the existence of any such suitable water craft associated with aborginals since any form of reliable documentation has been available.

@caretakerfochr3834

9 ай бұрын

OTOH, racial differences aside, from our standpoint, they are ALL aborigines. It's no big deal. One primitive people may have had a higher order of art than later primitive peoples. So what?

@kathysangel56

9 ай бұрын

Totally agree the Egyptians 5000 years ago,and the mummy dated 25000 years it's in the museum in Sydney,also there was grave robbers the paintings are Egyptian, the artifacts are Egyptian,the Pyramids they are the most exciting history they talked about a priestess found I suppose they will claim them as there ancestors

@kathysangel56

9 ай бұрын

Ice age

I remember this many years ago finding and it intriguing, but then, like many things found in this country all went quite as it does not fit the narrative .

@mrpolsco6872

9 ай бұрын

100%

@redsword1659

9 ай бұрын

Its doesn't fit the narrative because it's wrong. It's old hat. We have the human genome and all this racist garbage was put in the trash long ago. No "mystery tribe" sorry. Just blackfellas. Just the ancestors of the current population. Noone else. This is what we learned.

New Zealand is having a big argument right now where Maori claim to be indigenous, but most like myself, can trace our ancestral lineage back to the canoes which bought our ancestors to New Zealand in the 15 century, and to think that two of my ancestors came from Tahiti . So if people living on Islands in the vastness of the Pacific can sail around the oceans,why couldn't they have arrived in Australia at one point? .And it's also believed that there were people already living in New Zealand before the arrival of those canoes. And again, moves in recent years have been made to quash this theory.

@Scion369AU

9 ай бұрын

That is fascinating that you can trace your lineage back to the 15th century and your ancestors from Tahiti, I saw a speech being given from a Maori woman on television at one of the conferences that is held yearly? between Samoa Fiji and New Zealand, if I remember correctly, the lady was talking about the huge ships crewed by islanders bigger than the European ships sailing through the waters past them, that apparently were painted and recorded in journals by white European botanists on exploration vessels and that this has been hidden away in the archives of places such as the natural history museum in London. Evidently this was done to support the European narrative at the time that Aboriginal and islander peoples were technically unsophisticated savages, which seems ludicrous yet is till widely supported amongst people to this day. I would love to try and find some of the Botanists paintings that record this if it is indeed true.

@hemanag1020

9 ай бұрын

​@@Scion369AUhi there, there are many artistic interpretations of major seagoing waka(canoe) are to be found from Abel Tasman in 1642, Cook in Hawaii, Tahiti, Rarotonga etc. I honour your interest. 🙂

@DonHavjuan

8 ай бұрын

Indigenous just means first. The Maori are. Australia's 'Aboriginals' are not.

@stephenhoward7454

8 ай бұрын

@@DonHavjuan Wrong!!! Maori are so late to NZ it is unbelievable they could be considered to be first. Evidence see "skeltons in the cupboard" Also, Kaimanawa "wall", Nelson Sea wall (Boulder bank), Split Apple rock. Waipoua Forest stone buildings.... so much more. All covered up in plain sight by corruption.

Bugger the politics. Others lived on this land overtime. Not just those left.

So reassuring to see so many academics with open enquiring minds. Why is it that any theory that challenges the zeitgeist is heresy.

@onepup-pr3yl

9 ай бұрын

With academics, it is all about funding that allows them to pursue their own progression and recognition within their chosen field. As was mentioned in the video Graham Walsh had his own funding cut when offering a counter opinion to the perceived or politically correct norm, a case of don't rock the establishment boat. This type of activity has always existed but has now become more politicized than ever.

@patscott6365

9 ай бұрын

Money, alas.

@redsword1659

9 ай бұрын

Regardless of his state of mind he was subsequently shown to be wrong.

@3rtk2

9 ай бұрын

​@redsword1659 Hi, Could you provide any articles in support of your statement please.

He is right The aborigins even know that they found people there

@thetapeloops9522

25 күн бұрын

Yeah, other aboriginals

I so loved this. Absolutely fascinating stuff. Graham Walsh is a hero, and obviously has great integrity. It's an old programme, so I'm going to have fun researching the Bradshaws further, see what's been unearthed since then...

@redsword1659

9 ай бұрын

Its debunked and he was wrong

@redsword1659

9 ай бұрын

@@threadie it's old and debunked long ago. If you want to resurrect something that is refuted and out of date then the burden lies on you. Tip: give up.

@mick4093

4 ай бұрын

@@redsword1659 How? When?

@redsword1659

4 ай бұрын

@@mick4093 look for all the research that has been done with improved dating etc. The conjecture in the video are long disproved. The artwork was done by the ancestors of the modern population. There is a sequence from the first art to the bradshaws to the wandjina. Ithese are some of the most significant ancient art in the world and the story of the resolution of these matters is well known to those who take an interest regardless of the complete knowledge vacuum of those who instinctively grunt denial in a forum like this. They can deny till their heads explode but they just want to subtract from the cultural legacy of blackfellas.

@mick4093

4 ай бұрын

@@redsword1659 still waiting for an answer; not ur speculative bs. They were called “Bradshaws” as the local Aborigines had “no name” for them!? They even said, “we don’t know who did them”. Modern day revisionism is an insult to the intelligent mind; not the mindless, “virtue signaling “ fool however! Boab trees in Africa, Madagascar AND the Kimberley. Modern archeology is extremely politically driven I bet u think “welcome to country” is an ancient ritual lol

I love how the naysayers say his claims lack scientific rigor yet cant put forward convincing arguments to explain how his reasoning is wrong. They just dismiss it out of hand from a position of authority within academia. Extremely telling

@tonyryan43

9 ай бұрын

Contemporary anthropology is watching its guillty arse. A Royal Commission with wide terms of reference would result in hundreds of anthropologists having their degrees expunged and many doing serious prison time. This was established more than 30 years ago by European investigators on a three month expedition in Australia. The NLC's creation by the Rothschilds will explain its role over the years, especially its behaviour since 2020.

@Seagulligus

9 ай бұрын

Thats not how science works. I am a "naysayer" in that Walsh's claims lack the science to support his claims. Whether they were done by Aboriginal people, another race prior to Aboriginal people (>100 000yrs), in partnership with Aboriginal peoples in the last 100 000yrs we simply can not know.

@redsword1659

9 ай бұрын

It doesn't matter because in the 20 years since this program the "mystery race" idea has been completely debunked. The only value in this video is to analyse how people get things wrong ...basically he was blind to information that didn't fit.

@petercrisp8314

9 ай бұрын

@redsword1659 actually it hasn't three week ago a discovery has been made that very well might debunk the whole indigenous myth

@MRFIXIT3895

8 ай бұрын

@@petercrisp8314 please let us know where I agree that those that clame they are the first Only keep saying that because there is a huge Poole of CASH in it for them and the so called EXPERTS

Bradshaws cover the same area of Australia that the Boab trees cover. The seeds and seed pith of which are very high in vitamin C and protein -can last for years, great to avoid scurvy during long ship journeys from Africa where they originate from

wanting to known the truth is not racist. Truth is better than ignorance which is a stepping stone to arrogance

@garawa1987

10 ай бұрын

Since when did youse neo colonisers care about the truth if anything this would give you racist justification and appeasement for you treatment of Aboriginal people youse care much about truth as your lies about WMD in Iraq and flight log book Epstein Island

@mantiskf2003

9 ай бұрын

waiting to hear only what supports your racist thoughts is racist though

@SteeleFalcon

9 ай бұрын

@@mantiskf2003 when the racists card gets played you know the argument is weak. Also my wife is from another country so before you pull the pathetic race card make sure you know what your talking about. It seems your the racist with your ha GG equal outlook what a joke

@redsword1659

9 ай бұрын

Ignorance would be gripping onto the ideas in the video that were completely debunked with modern technology because you want to devalue the culture of blackfellas.

The fact that the style didn’t filter down in “traditional styles of indigenous art”supports his theory.....

this land is ancient...anybody could have been here

@mantiskf2003

9 ай бұрын

and people could have existed alongside dinosaurs, except nope that is just ignorance of research methods

@bpu5

9 ай бұрын

In the past, island nations were formed as ancient sailors went from island to island fishing and hunting. At the same time, the geography of the entire area was being formed, largely by earthquakes and volcanic action, as such it was then 28:29 possible to walk down through west Malaysia, into Borneo, down through Sumatra and then on to Java and east Indonesia. As tribes were formed, and settlements established, people travelled far and wide across land and sea, in many areas evidence of their travels as lost due to the rapid regrowth of the jungle, and the seasonal monsoon rains. It is therefore difficult to know when different land masses were occupied, and for how long. However, there remains one indicator of the past travels of many of these people, mainly by their facial and body structures. In many of these people little has changed regarding their looks, and if one obtains head and shoulder photos of the different tribes now settled in the region of S.E. Asia one can see both close associations, and prominent features, of many of these tribes which have remained constant over the years. This together with their current location can go a long way to identifying where these peoples have lived and travelled, together with their different languages, and beliefs.

@bpu5

9 ай бұрын

In the past, island nations were formed as ancient sailors went from island to island fishing and hunting. At the same time, the geography of the entire area was being formed, largely by earthquakes and volcanic action, as such it was then 28:29 possible to walk down through west Malaysia, into Borneo, down through Sumatra and then on to Java and east Indonesia. As tribes were formed, and settlements established, people travelled far and wide across land and sea, in many areas evidence of their travels as lost due to the rapid regrowth of the jungle, and the seasonal monsoon rains. It is therefore difficult to know when different land masses were occupied, and for how long. However, there remains one indicator of the past travels of many of these people, mainly by their facial and body structures. In many of these people little has changed regarding their looks, and if one obtains head and shoulder photos of the different tribes now settled in the region of S.E. Asia one can see both close associations, and prominent features, of many of these tribes which have remained constant over the years. This together with their current location can go a long way to identifying where these peoples have lived and travelled, together with their different languages, and beliefs.

People have been coming to Australia for tens of thousands of years....

@redsword1659

9 ай бұрын

No evidence of that at all

@snOOziie

9 ай бұрын

@redsword1659 Due to the non-native species introduced into Australia suggest that people have been coming here over and over again. Dingoes are the big indication they've only been around for about 2 to 3,000 years if Aboriginals came here 65,000 years ago how did the dingoes get here which are native to the Philippines.

@redsword1659

9 ай бұрын

@@snOOziie you are missing the point. There has indeed been limited influx from the north. That is part of the heritage of the current aboriginal population. Its not a mystery race at all. The amount of information we have acquired from genetic science since this video was made completely swamps any racist fantasy that anyone preceded the current population. The current population is descended from the first inhabitants of Australia and not only that, at that time and for thousands of years after there were no other modern humans in Melanesia or anywhere in the region. Small influxes occurred in the north at the end of the last ice age which is very late in the story.

If you look at facial bone strructure types across Australia, definite patterns emerge. For example Anandilyagwa are unique, as are Tiwi. Yolngu have much in common with the tribes around Wadeye, while Maung and all clans in the centre of the Top End have a lot in common with Centre tribes. NSW types, too, are unique to that region. This suggests several waves of immigration, presumably during the latter Ice Age. Meanwhile, it is also known that a negrito pygmy people preceded Aborigines here, these being wiped out by the new arrivals. Remants were recorded in Tasmania and the Atherton Rainforest. American Anthropologists measured and photographed these in the 1880s. Australian anthropologists have gone to absurd lengths to hide these aspects of history and, in fact, the existence of the entire race. In 1992, a team of Austrian anthropologists (Europe) investigated local anthropologists and recommend that most have their degrees expunged and others face criminal prosecution for fraud. One thing is clear, on theft of funds, royalties and lands, there needs to be Royal Commission of Inquiry. This will inevitably reveal even greater crimes that place Australia's northern populations at serious security risk.

@mantiskf2003

9 ай бұрын

and your point being, or more importantly your intent?

@tonyryan43

9 ай бұрын

Firstly, truth. Precious little of history is the truth, which is why I wrote a book about fifty years of Top End history (The Lost Track"). As a wise man once said: "Ignore history and be doomed forever to repeat it." Secondly, I oppose corruption. All major Aboriginal organisations in the NT are hopelessly corrupt, especially the NLC and Gumatj Corporation. A Royal Commission with broad terms of reference will expose this to all Australians, who can then decide how to replace these with organisations of integrity. In my opinion, if this does not happen within two years, the causes of Aboriginal premature death and cultural breakdown will be beyond remedy.

@grahamjohnbarr

9 ай бұрын

There was a report in Discover Magazine many years ago about the distinctness of the Tasmanian Aboriginals when compared to the Mainland Aboriginals. I remember in it he said that if Tasmania hadn't been discovered they would have died out naturally by the year 2000.

@tonyryan43

9 ай бұрын

That was the view also of a 19th century French Sea Captain who had quite vast anthropological knowledge and experience. He described than as "regressive" and with suicidal/genocida; dietary embargoes. No wonder the mainland new arrivals eschewed them and drove them almost to extinction.

@garyjohnstone6422

9 ай бұрын

​@@mantiskf2003to expose abo bullshit

These paintings are so obviously African it can't be denied. When I first saw them I instantly thought of the Zulu peoples, who have that same proud bearing and dress.

@ireneyerman1137

9 ай бұрын

Compare them with the tassili frescos

@mantiskf2003

9 ай бұрын

well that's it then, instantly proven; and disproving all those years of study by experts

@tonyryan43

9 ай бұрын

Ha ha. This is like attending a lecture in an asylum, or in preschool.

Willian Dampier the English sailor was in the Kimberley region in the 1600's and he and his crew wrote about seeing tall aboriginals chasing and killing a pygmy race of people. The same thing happened in New Zealand where it is claimed when the Maori arrived there a mere 800 years ago there was already a race of people there. They to were a pygmy people and the Maori's wiped them all out. I think there is definitely some missing info in both Oz and NZ, I remember the early Bush Tucker Man and Malcolm Douglas clips and in particular Malcolm Douglas, where he went out with the local aboriginals where the Bradshaws were on their land and those aboriginals called the Bradshaws "rubbish paintings, they have nothing to do with us"

@kathysangel56

9 ай бұрын

I heard this to these tribes come in on canoes the waterways were low,these tribes invaded Australia and slaughtered the first inhabitants the pygmies and I have photos of them its in the book capeyork the savage frontier, a bloke on utube said that his alders talked about the Egyptians these paintings are Egyptian the eye look at the paintings ,there not aboriginal they only learnt how to do dot to dot painting 50 years ago

@mantiskf2003

9 ай бұрын

funny, all these mass slaughters, and no mass finds of bones, or signs of culture; simply snatching at straws to cast shade with an ulterior motive

@mickbrown4855

9 ай бұрын

@@mantiskf2003A good point. Where are all the bones? That also raises the question though of where are all the bones of all the aborigines that have lived and died on the continent over the last 60,000 odd years? There’s been some found certainly but definitely not enough to account for the huge amount of human remains that would accumulate over such a vast time scale. Perhaps the only bones that survive are the ones that have been preserved or placed in places where they are protected from the elements. Would that happen if aborigines did in fact massacre an earlier race? We may never know but it’s an interesting point.

@mantiskf2003

9 ай бұрын

@@mickbrown4855 you're surely not serious with this uneducated assessment - bones are even more likely found at communal places and massacre sites. Just drop your attempt to devalue aboriginal communities and claims with this disproven nonsense.

@redsword1659

9 ай бұрын

Completely debunked

As an indigenous woman I can’t possibly see how there couldn’t have been visitors, or an earlier people living on this land . It doesn’t diminish any fact that the modern day indigenous have been here longer than any other race, certainly longer than Europeans. We need to let science speak and prove the truth 👍🏽

@Seagulligus

9 ай бұрын

Absolutely and there were visitors with strong trade relationships. The Brits weren't even the first whites here they were just the ones that decided to invade and steal the land through whatever means possible.

@ninthheretic2498

9 ай бұрын

cousins across the sea is the follow up of that

@shanegooding4839

9 ай бұрын

Just because there have been different cultural practices in the past doesn't mean these old people weren't related to or ancestral to later Aboriginal peoples. European ancestors had cultural practices (and art styles) that were completely different from those of their descendants. A lot of folks opinions have more to do with politics than with science.

@aphaseelec

9 ай бұрын

Just like how the moaris never like to bring up the moriori people.

@grahamjohnbarr

9 ай бұрын

That's where the problem lies. The Aboriginal People have to accept the Science even if the don't like it. There have been multiple waves of Aboriginal people drifting into Australia from the North for 70 to 12000 years ago. There is nothing strange about that. White is just the last of a long line.

Petrographs in New Zealand are attributed to NZ Maori but when they were discovered Maori denied all knowledge of them. They do not relate to Maori art.

@mantiskf2003

9 ай бұрын

Some maori, or all maori? Do some maori have archaelogical knowledge, and others just pass on stories?

@redsword1659

9 ай бұрын

That is not relevant because Maori only came to NZ about 1500 years ago which is a tiny fraction of the time scale involved here.

That art looks more defined ..definitely done by a more guided hand than any aboriginal art I've seen ..

@kathysangel56

9 ай бұрын

Aboriginal art was taught 50 years ago by a French artist dot to dot they couldn't paint this is Egyptian art

@freddieallan3583

9 ай бұрын

@@kathysangel56 true ..I saw a video on that too

@enterpassword3313

9 ай бұрын

You say that like every artist of a group makes art the same way. Furthermore, there are hundreds of aboriginal tribes and have their own unique cultures and art, you obviously dont know much about art so you have nothing to compare it to

@patscott6365

9 ай бұрын

@@kathysangel56 The man who taught the dot painting was an Englishman, Geoffrey Bardon. He formulated the idea from watching how the aboriginal people described events etc by drawing symbols in the red earth of the desert. He was originally engaged to teach art to the children of the Papunya people.

@freddieallan3583

9 ай бұрын

@@enterpassword3313 I know enough about art ...I know quite a few aboriginal artists in fact ...I worry about you though ...hard to see anything with your dyes shut tight

While I was working in the Kimberley I came close to a rock with a stunningly accurate painting of a wallaby which was on a rock outcrop not a rock shelter gallery; just the one object. The tail was in solid black with heavy line around the body with the interior of the body blank. It occurs to me that this blank interior was originally a coloured pigment that does not survive the way the typical Bradshaw black does. The Bradshaw black seems to me to be special and with a binder stronger than that used by other cultures. Bradshaw culture does seem to be restricted to the Kimberley.

@khahlifboot38

10 ай бұрын

The old paintings that the aboriginals graffity over are much more defined than any aboriginal art anywhere in australia its a clean record that someone else was here aboriginal art is not defined enough aboriginal paintings look like a retarded kid did it bradshaws look like the work of true artists did them you can tell by how fine the lines are

@tonyryan43

9 ай бұрын

There is no logic that denies the possibility that some immigrants never left their original locality. In the Kimberly, they would have been hemmed in by people from east and west, so self-isolation is vaguely logical. This happened to the people and Anindilyagwa.

@petersimpson6110

8 ай бұрын

Bradshaw or Gwoin Gwoin is from a race of people mostly from Africa who lived in Australia over 100,000 years ago and traded with the then inhabitants, the Tartarians.

How about the fact that these paintings are also found in south Africa, Madagascar and india. What is also found in all these places boab trees.

@himanshumahato2400

3 жыл бұрын

I am an Indian-originated tribal we have are similar works of art not the same. This argument is invalid as like saying the artist Leonardo or Michelangelo were the same as they belonged to the same period, similar kind of hunting painting are found in Franc if we go by your arguments all were done by the same, there is the distinction in the Aboriginal community, inside Australia as well this type of mentality is the mentality of Appropriation and to give the White audience relief of their Ancestorial and present wrongdoing.

@aussiedave7447

3 жыл бұрын

@@himanshumahato2400 i was talking about the distribution of the paintings. leonardo and michelangelo are from the same culture. And last but not least every culture is guilty of doing unspeakable things and my point in no way diminished the importance of the aboriginal culture. So how about we let science and not your political point of view write the history books.

@AREALAMERICAN

2 жыл бұрын

@@himanshumahato2400 I'm sick of people like you always point the finger and saying the white people the white audience it was always the white people that done everything wrong in the world . You live in prison your own mind

Thanks you so much for posting this. Very curious.

THE BUSH TUCKER MAN on ABC Aust , also highlighted Bradshaw paintings . he had a elder with him and that Aboriginal picked up a rock and started to destroy the painting , BTM asked him , why destroy , Elder said bad spirits and continued to destroy . it's- all on camera can't be disputed .so why is this evidence always buried and lost .

Disturbing to note that the Bradshaws are currently in a state of lamentable deterioration. Nothing is being done to ensure their preservation or protection from vandalism. It seems, the government is committed to letting them be destroyed and lost.

@stilllooking7996

9 ай бұрын

Sounds about right.

@intricacy9490

9 ай бұрын

There are now unfortunately several significant Gwion galleries easily accessed by people in the northern Kimberley. But believe me, there are plenty more. I have encountered many in my several extended forays into the area but have been told to keep their location to myself.

@remainhumble6432

9 ай бұрын

Clearly not aboriginal otherwise there would be an outcry. That to me is check mate. They will kill to support their narrative and destroy everything else in their way including controversial rock art.

@disgruntledunicorn007

9 ай бұрын

Of course.

@redsword1659

9 ай бұрын

They allow cattle to graze right on top of ancient priceless art

From my studies . Pupuans are the originals here. They could walk here just 6500 years ago. Aborigines came here from southern India much later.

as Graham says, " with Indonesia, New Guinea, Malaysia, etc. being so close, it makes no sense that Aborigine's were the only ones here for the last 60+ thousand years.. ".

@redsword1659

9 ай бұрын

It does make sense and there is zero evidence to the contrary and genetics show us that any other situation would be impossible.

@wilson2455

9 ай бұрын

@@redsword1659 there are dozens of areas scattered across Australia showing concrete evidence of non-first nation Aboriginal artifacts & cave paintings. But let's not get scientific evidence & dreamtime stories get in the way of deceit, lies & buckets of $$$ !!

@petercrisp8314

9 ай бұрын

@redsword1659 it actually doesn't and of late it has been discovered they wasn't

@wilson2455

9 ай бұрын

@@petercrisp8314 they wasn't ????

@redsword1659

9 ай бұрын

@@petercrisp8314 no

apparently no nunga has any idea of what or who created them. Probably the pilot that found them made them as trusting nunga history is not possible. A history based on story telling is just another episode of little red riding hood. A fairytale.

Modern Aborigines claiming because when they arrived paintings were already there. Some of the rock I've seen in the far north, have always intrigued me, as they appear to be of African/ Egyptian appearnce. Voting No

That art has no connection to aborigines. Not even close. Truth is often painful, since it displaces comfortable conventions.

@garawa1987

10 ай бұрын

Why don't the government follow up atleast this would give you the ammunition to deligitimise aboriginal. People I mean it's like youse cared for there well being anyways same lies for WMD for invasion or Iraq and 911 .

Any dates that oppose the popular narrative are " disputed" . But other dates seem to be plucked out of thin air and taken as gospel . The pulling of funding is a clear indication of that political narrative . So much for Truth telling .

There is an almost identical form of rock art rendered by the San people of Southern Africa. Since my young childhood I have believed implicitly in a conectionof al these rock art forms globally but feel instinctively of an inseparable connection between the Australian aboriginal forms and the San forms. They are however, clearly linked globally in method and form if not belief systems of art. Incredibly beautiful. I would dearly lve to visit the Kimberleys art sites and the Tsodilo Hills in Botswana and study the synergies. More of course, but one has to start somewhere. The Kwazul Natal Drakensberg was a great start.

@ianwilkinson4602

9 ай бұрын

I have seen them or something very like them previously, I can't remember where [ old age ], but they do look like African dancers to me in their posturing.

@tonyryan43

9 ай бұрын

I got news for you. The San and Inuit had almost identical cultures to Aboriginal, and an important social distinction, which I cannot mention here..

Just to add, this gentleman has spent his time thrice more wisely than any other on this island.

Thank`s for this, this rings true something that I saw in the National Museum. College St. Sydney about 1987. One of those small theatre rooms used in museum`s. This film was about what they perceived to be the real first people of this continent. Those that ended up in Tasmania. The producer was saying that those Aboriginals inhabiting this continent at that time were the second line of humans. And drove with violence the fist mob south to what we now know as Tasmania. Perhaps the story lines of humanity do get blurred over time. Lets not forget the same thing has been said of the ideas of Graham Hancock as that that has been said of this fella. But it seems to me that for what ever reason there are some that do not want to find out.

@markj2091

9 ай бұрын

I'm 61 i was told by a ranger in alice springs when i was twelve that there have been 3 races of humans in australia first done rock carving the next two done paintings and throw in the Bradshaw's and other ledgends theirs a lot to be learned

@intricacy9490

9 ай бұрын

There is rock art available for anyone to see on the track to Mitchell Falls in the Kimberley depicting what appears to be two well armed groups about to engage in battle. There are certainly several assumptions that can be made regarding this!!

@adrienneclarke3953

9 ай бұрын

Where are all the pygmies the people here before the australian Aboriginals that were killed. Australian Aboriginals did their own genocide.

@tonyryan43

9 ай бұрын

The Queensland Government rounded up the remnants in the Atherton Rainforest and ordered the Cape York Aborigines to "breed them out". I have seen photos taken next to measured Europeans of 1880 and it seems they were indeed pygmies. There is a definite conspiracy in anthropology and archaeology to keep the history suppressed. The same happened over three previous races in NZ.

@grahamjohnbarr

9 ай бұрын

There are still wild Pygmies in & around the Paluma area in Nth. Queensland. A good few years ago an old lady went missing in the Paluma Ranges. A black Tracker was hired to find her When they got to her abandoned car the Blacktracker got out, had a look around the car then suddenly raced back to the police car, got in & locked the door. His face was white & he was shaking. All he could say was that the little people had taken her away. It was some time in the 80's@@adrienneclarke3953

Australia, Gondwanaland was part of the big continent,Pangea. Why then, is it impossible that peoples from an earlier period have been here, leaving’s their signiatures. Current aboriginal races were not the first. Europe had cultures before 40,000 years ago. Asia had cultures before 40,000 year’s ago.

I was on a trip to the Kimberly twenty years ago and seen rock art that wasn’t aboriginal , it looked like. Egyptian and I was told that aboriginals would not go to this place it freaked them out they said it was not aboriginal

Hannah Bell is off with the fairies & missed picnic at hanging rock, there are even far more intriguing drawing than these wonderful Bradshaw drawing in the Kimberley's. The man is researching the past & the countries history, not who has a claim or ownership right, FFF lighten up & follow what the facts/research may be able to determine & prove.

@waenmanson3489

Жыл бұрын

Good for you!!

@redbomberr4594

9 ай бұрын

Damn right

At least Walsh was open minded about the whole matter. The acadmcs, on the other hand have closed their minds .. if not, they will at least do the scientific studies. That fact they won't do the scientific studies have to expose them to the question, "Why not????"

@noiamspartacus8965

10 ай бұрын

Biased politics and funding of academia can sway conclusions on such matters. Follow the $ trail and see who benefits. Truth is a different matter often discarded in favour of profit. There are older Aboriginal paintings, but not with such artistic qualities. No doubt various people have arrived in Australia in the past and present times.

@elainehodge9415

10 ай бұрын

Academics do not know everything, only what they have been taught (indoctrinated), so who's to say everything is correct. All schools and universities in Australia are ruled by finance today, not knowledge.

@Doogsa-dl8sc

9 ай бұрын

The academics want to keep their high paying 4 day a week jobs. Amanda Vanstone was given one job to sort this rort out but failed. Become an academic in an Australian University and every weekend is a long weekend.

Reminds me of those paintings in the Sahara.

Exactly the same politicization of archaeology is rife in New Zealand.

@waenmanson3489

Жыл бұрын

Totally true. The Stone Age Moneys in this country claim everything.

Academia is little more than an exclusive mutual masterbation fraternity.

Sanitized that is the problem...He is spot on.

for those of you who feel they've seen these BRADSHAW styles before, then maybe it's because you've seen the movie, The English Patient, set in nthn africa it features very similarly styled elongated human forms in a place known as "The Cave of The Swimmers". very very telling. IMO

In India in the 1990s, I have heard Indian tribal members talking in their language and was struck by how much it sounds like listening to Aussie blackfella talk, even the nasal tone. I wondered at the time if this is where Aussie blackfella originally came from. If yes, perhaps these blackfellas, when they came to Australia, were the dominating culture over these Bradshaw painters and the Bradshaw painters died out or were wiped out. I add this is only conjecture on my part.

@Billy-jn6te

8 ай бұрын

Australian Aboriginals closest relative is the indigenous Indian and Pakistani people.

@keithad6485

8 ай бұрын

I find this a concept easy to accept. Be interesting to do a DNA analysis of Indian tribes and Aussue blackfellas.. Aussie Blackfella came from somewhere, could not have magically appeared here in Australia, could not have come out of 'thin air', @@Billy-jn6te

Do people actually know that the "Smoking Ceremony" was only invented recently before the 2000 Sydney Olympics. The PM and the aboriginal elders wanted a special feature of their culture that could be used during the on TV ceremonies, after much discussion, nothing special could be found. PM John Howard and Ernie Dingo together developed the smoking ceremony, the welcome to country to be used at all future events, it was thought up and invented by Ernie Dingo, and it has NO historic symbolism, just that PM Howard said that the aboriginal culture was boring at best and be wanted something special to show the world..... If you do your own research you will find the same.

@kathysangel56

9 ай бұрын

Yes its all fake the welcome to the country,and the smoking ceremony is used by Indians and kiwis and the paintings are fake French painter taught them dot to dot painting but there art is beautiful but it's not original ,to many tongues to many tribes,the dingo came from india, the Boomerang was found in King tuts tomb he loved to hunt with them

@petersimpson6110

9 ай бұрын

All the real history is about to be released to the public via the military, I am a part of that military. It was all removed and hidden from us over 200 years ago, the real history of the entire planet was found hidden under the vatican in books dating back 100,000 years, they hid it from humanity to control us for their pleasure, the truth is imminent.... xmas 23... the world is going to be so shocked.@@kathysangel56

@onepup-pr3yl

9 ай бұрын

King Tut also played badminton and squash in his youth, hence his deformed feet! @@kathysangel56

@Teegs54

9 ай бұрын

Not true. You are (poorly) referring to the times when Welcome to Country was first shared with non-Indigenous Australians and began to enter the Australian mainstream as the protocol commonly seen today. Both Welcome to Country and smoking ceremonies are rituals that have existed for thousands of years across many Aboriginal groups.

@Teegs54

9 ай бұрын

@@kathysangel56 the 'boomerangs' found in Tutankhamun's tombs were actually Egyptian throwing sticks and only ever crafted as votive objects, similar enough to the (Australian) Aboriginal boomerang that Gaston Maspero (1846-1916), a French Egyptologist asked that two be sent to him as a comparative reference. They were very obviously not the same but remain all together in the same case, hence perhaps the confusion. Just because other Aboriginal cultures have smoking ceremonies, does not mean Indigenous peoples of this country don't also??

@26:58 That lady really buys into this ethereal, nebulous concept of the spirit realm creating this work of art, but is furiously opposed to any investigation that this may be a product of a race other than the Aboriginal one, which only serves to expose her for having an agenda. She was quick to argue (did you see the anger in her eyes, trying to intimidate the interviewer?) that no one could ever possibly prove his theory as it will only ever be speculation, yet she explains it away with all that spiritual claptrap, as if it’s fact. Yet even she wouldn’t even really be able to understand the specifics of the spiritual significance. Just another case of the Emperor’s New Clothes because some people just can’t handle the truth.

@cohort075

5 ай бұрын

She, I bet had never seen a Bradshaw in person, only in pictures, probably taken by Graham himself.

Follow the money trail.......it speaks louder than words. I'll back Walsh and his challenge as to test the ancient DNA.

Ah, Grahame Walsh... Fantastic man, vilified by the Aboriginal industry for telling the truth.

@janshaddock9892

5 жыл бұрын

How fortunate I feel that I have seen many of these artworks.

@ex_leper222

2 жыл бұрын

Good old Vesna, of course you'd support anything that backs your lies. Have you told your followers about the 1500 year long ENSO level mega drought that plagued the area of the Gwion Gwion paintings? What about about the fact the Aboriginal artists of the Gwion Gwion paintings were displaced by this drought and after the land was habitable again the Wandjina artists moved in? I'm guessing the research paper released by the University of Wollongong would destroy the entire bs "aura" you've created and financially benefited from, wouldn't it? Unfortunately that truth doesn't make you money does it? Prefer to perpetuate the pygmy lie to keep the money rolling in while lying about my people and appropriating my culture to line your pockets. Croatia didn't want you, so you piggy back off of us.

@mikenicholas9017

2 жыл бұрын

These tassels and head dresses are still worn in central Australia so he was just... wrong.

@mitchimoon

Жыл бұрын

And deservedly so. He was full of his own importance and made up theories. White fellas making up stories, where ancient stories and encoded meanings in dance and songs already exist.

@waenmanson3489

Жыл бұрын

Totally agree

The real first people probably !

There is plenty of ships logs to back this up.

Dot painting was invented in 1971 by Geoffrey Bardon who then taught the style to aborigines. There are NO dot paintings ever found in ANY caves.

When humans first migrated to Mainland Australia , they were not exact representatives of the Aboriginal people of Australia , nor their culture , that existed when Europeans came to this land . They came from a different place with the culture of that place .They were ancesters of a people and culture that evolved and adapted to the laws of the land , a harsh unforgiving environment . Just an opinion .

@mantiskf2003

9 ай бұрын

an opinion, but written as definitive facts; anything else you have opinions on outside a field of expertise?

@stephenfitzpatrick9189

9 ай бұрын

@@mantiskf2003 yep , you are an arrogant arsehole . Just an oplnion written as fact within a field of expertise . Cheers .

Alternatives to the current Aboriginal business model obviously wont's get support from there and not from political sources in the current climate either,.

100% blatantly obvious a more modern artistry and visiting people. Nothing stays the same forever. Fascinating thank you for your work.

@DonHavjuan

8 ай бұрын

Not more modern these are older than Aboriginal art. These people were first.

There is a Bradshaw gallery near me. It’s unbelievable hand prints at the top of a cliff face.

What are we up to…60,000 years now? Yeah, right…ok.

@redsword1659

9 ай бұрын

75,000 minimum

They are African Manti, husband to the Porcupine, daughter of the blue Crane - Sans' legends.

Such a great dude. His ideas may not be completely accurate but he did more to document and analyze these paintings than any human alive. Love his attitude and commitment to truth-finding. I'm going to make a video soon about these paintings and will be sure to highlight him

Absolutely correct about it being political

All this was nigh on 40 years ago. But some of it still stands up okay with, for example, wikipedia. That being of somebody coming into what is now Australia about 60,000 years ago from " Indonesia ". But what you have north of Australia is two bio-geographical sectors, Sundaland and Sahul, from ancient times. I do not know that the Austronesians of Sahul are related to, or descendant of, the Micronesians of Sundaland [ Borneo, Malaya, Bali, Java, Sumatra, Mindanao ]. But i can tell you that the Papuans and Australian Aborigines have a common ancestry as Austronesians on Sahul when Papua and Australia were one land mass up until 8,000 years ago.

It’s all coming out… the awful divisive Voice is revealing stuff no one dared talk about- like dot painting starting in 1971 by a white art teacher called Geoffrey Bardon ( look him up!) the possibility that Aboriginal people were not First Nation at all, that it was not 60, 000 years but 45-50 tops and maybe a lot less as no one knows because the Stone Age art prob wasn’t done by them/ eeeeek!!!!!! The proof that brutality of women was cultural norm before colonisation ( Stephen Webster examination of 3500 sets of bones with head trauma) the massacres that never happened, the Indiginous one’s that did that no one talks about- Albo has opened up a giant can of worms and people who have dared not speak of these things are finally speaking up

@cohort075

5 ай бұрын

Actually! The dot painting was started by the adult aboriginals there, because they realised that by painting their stories, other aboriginals could steal their stories, and use them, they started using the dots, but used different patterns so as not to show their tribal identity. But yes, only started in the early 70’s.

Whatever anyone says that art form is different from the other aboriginal paintings. It reminds me of African art . I have lived in Afrika.

There are pre-European cave paintings of wild boars in Cape York, probably at least 2,000 years old. Feral pigs aren't the only wild suids in Australia because Papuan hogs (Sus scrofa papuensis) live in the Torres Strait Islands, QLD, NSW, and ACT. Negritos live in New Guinea, Torres Strait, Cape York, and formerly Tasmania. Vedda people might've painted the Bradshaw Rock Art. I'm not sure, but Vedda and Papuans apparently intermarried to become Aborigines.

@mattyguff1

9 ай бұрын

Look at the foreheads of both people. The build.

@redsword1659

9 ай бұрын

No there isnt

@redsword1659

9 ай бұрын

Aboriginals are not the descendants of Melanesians.

I think it’s pretty certain that are genes of those people in a lot of aborigines (descendants would have stay there and reproduce) it could have been other culture (after all civilizations/cultures change over the time, enough that they can look as different cultures “”) or the “same”, the important thing imo is the closeness to the end of the ice age and the younger dryas event, fascinating stuff.

I would think the existence of the Boab trees in the Kimberly's is a strong clue. They don't look at all native to Australia.

@thomasshepard6030

9 ай бұрын

They are originally from Africa and Madagascar I would think the people who painted the Bradshaw art probably brought them from Africa

@sevysnape

9 ай бұрын

@@thomasshepard6030 I agree.

The rising sea sea levels occurred between 12/8000 years ago some 120 meters. Gust a walk from Indonesia It’s ridiculous to exclude other groups from occupying Australia!

Maybe they were made by the Denisovans or a disappeared race. Who knows?

Tied up with the baobabs found in the area???

Well the Egyptians did come here, for our knowledge of the star system, maybe it's from them. I'm Aboriginal by the way

As Graham says science isn't science it's politics. same applies to occupation at Ayers Rock.

@zacciahwilliams5076

2 жыл бұрын

Or covid

@vk88864

10 ай бұрын

The original name is Uluru. The invaders changed it to Ayers Rock.

@redbomberr4594

9 ай бұрын

@@vk88864 Maybe it was changed to Uluru after the previous invasion!

@Seagulligus

9 ай бұрын

​@@redbomberr4594um, no.

@redbomberr4594

9 ай бұрын

@@SeagulligusYep, based on your extensive investigation I presume?

They tried to hide the pygmies saying it was a myth but its detailed in the encyclopaedia

20000 years ago at the time of filming. Now they're 85000 years old or more

Don’t tell a Maori that there were anyone in New Zealand before them either 👍

its quiet obvious that it is not aboriginal art - you would have to be ignorant of reality or just blind to think it is - it is always going to be about money .......

If these where painted 10s of thousands of years ago, then why hasn't some paint company got the recipe for whatever it is and manufacture it ? It would be great to paint your house once in a lifetime. I cannot understand how supposed river mud can last that long.

@nickmonk7945

9 ай бұрын

No doubt they weren’t painted anywhere near that long ago

@enterpassword3313

9 ай бұрын

Sandstone absorbs and stains very well, so its deep in the rock, and if there is no running water it wont really erode. There was also some mention of carving which i assume assists

@sunshinyday1901

9 ай бұрын

​@@nickmonk7945they have been carbon dated to about 28000 years ago.

@tonyryan43

9 ай бұрын

I wish ignorant people would just shut up. The really old paintings became part of the rock and so are there forever. And, Sunshine, you cannot carbon date rock.

@nickmonk7945

9 ай бұрын

@@tonyryan43 how do you mean , they became part of the rock?

That's right folks, primitive humans have the same hierarchy as gorillas.

My how things haven't changed, paraphrased; "he will incite racism!". If she is refuting someone's hypothesis with that then you know he must be onto something.

I think these are PRE current indigenous…. Much older

Good job you taped this👍

I have always believed the Bradshaw Paintings were painted by another race of people. The big question is whether these artists left Australia before the Aborigines arrived or whether the Aborigines killed them off. I've never believed the Aborigines were the first here.

@redsword1659

9 ай бұрын

Its debunked. Modern technology has superseded these ideas.

The recent (2022) genome work from Denmark, on a donated hair strand (collected in 1920 from the Kalgoorlie region), dates the arrival of the Aboriginal Australian at 60-70 thousand years before present. This however does not disprove Walsh's beliefs. As the Kimberley region hosts 99% of the Bradshaw paintings it could still be that a different race occupied that region for a certain period of Australian human history. My own interpretation is that the figures in the paintings look so similar to the figures of humans from the African continent. Is it possible that before the sea levels rose a wave of Africans found it easy to cross into Australia and established themselves in the Kimberley and co-existed with Australian Aboriginals. If you look at the curve of the legs and the ample bellies, the armbands, the grass skirts, all very African. Additionally you have the baobab tree in the Kimberley - could an African enclave in the Kimberley have transported and planted the seeds of this tree? What then causes them to disappear and why there is no archaeological evidence of their existence are more challenging questions to answer.

@lock8433

9 ай бұрын

There is evidence, over a million paintings from another race.... also there are many accounts of a pigmy race in Australia, hunted to extinction by the current indigenous

@gregjenkins2925

9 ай бұрын

@@lock8433 now that is more truth telling... the real facts...

@Qu_2_wil_lmjk

9 ай бұрын

Thanks for your interesting comments.

@intricacy9490

9 ай бұрын

Based on the boab's genetic molecular clock and mutation rates, the boab has existed in Australia for app. 70,000 yrs. The closest boab relative is in Africa. (and not Madagascar).The boab fruit is easily damaged by salt water. The fruit is high in Vit C. This is an interesting correlation of the arrival of the plant and human arrival into Australia!

@dingodog5677

9 ай бұрын

These numbers have always conflicted with the 50-60k ago Homo sapiens left Africa.

I don't see Walsh as remotely racist in the way he is shown in this video, he is simply trying to figure out the origin with a very open mind without agenda except his search for the truth. Racism tag is trotted out so often, it has lost its original mean. When I hear of someone called a racist, it makes me think that person has his or her own agenda and will not tolerate dissent from their own view and wants to shut down the heretic but without reasoned argument to support their view.

Thats early African style art. If they found it in Africa, they would simply say, "Oh, cool find!" But because it was found in Australia, it's a problem. Modern Humans have been here 230,000 years. It is naive to think humans simply sat around throwing sticks and rocks at rabbits for all of it until about 12 thousand years ago. Humans are curious. The need to know what is beyond the next hill is still in us. Exploration and the need to worship is much older than scientists give credit. It has been in humans as far back as we can currently detect or interpret. Cave drawings in Europe with odd markings near each animal were found decades ago. No scientist could figure out what the dots and dashes were. Then someone realized the marks were gestation periods of the individual animal represented in the art. These people were not as simple as we believed. Politics always gets in the way of science research. Don't dwell on it. I'm sure the early explorers and the rock artists had the same problem. Skeptics.

Lol she's about politics he's about science

Before the reporter made it all about themselves

Wow, this is fascinating. Wish I would've found this when researching for my Aboriginal Mythos twitter space a few weeks ago. Had a section about rock art and this would've been a spicy little bit to have added to the conversation.

@kathysangel56

9 ай бұрын

This women is full of crap