Boxer vs Blackman

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World Cyber Games 2002, Semi-Finals
SlayerS_`BoxeR` Yohwan Lim (Korea) T vs Z Blackman Artur Michalak (Poland) on Lost Temple
Classic game from the Boxer Era when he was in top shape, pure micro victory.
I have to say a couple of things about the commentator in this VOD [pG]Korn, an ex-PG member and a very skilled player so I have respect for him, I watched a few VODs with his cast and most of the times he's very good, but in this specific VOD he's quite annoying! obviously cheering for Blackman and talks says some ridiculous things like 'Boxer can hear the Korean commentator and play accordinly' - when in actuality those glass gamer boxes they play in, are infact sound-proof, not to mention the huge earphones.
Though at some point even the commentator gives up protecting Blackman since Boxer's micro catches him a bit by surprise, very funny to hear his shocked comments.
Well worth watching start to finish.
Also watch the Quarter-Finals Boxer vs Elky that Boxer had to win to get to this game: • Boxer vs Elky

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  • @guangpeng7117
    @guangpeng71175 жыл бұрын

    Goes from liquipedia. Blackman is definitely one of the best zerg that times. An impressive player!

  • @PolarTemplar
    @PolarTemplar13 жыл бұрын

    Artur Polacy pamietaja ten mecz!

  • @EebstertheGreat
    @EebstertheGreat3 жыл бұрын

    This was the first ever English commentary I saw of a Starcraft game. It is still the only commentary I have seen by [pG]Korn and one of the only Blackman games. I would love it if anyone knows if there is more of either of them out there.

  • @luxjason
    @luxjason17 жыл бұрын

    lol! the commentating was awesome i dont know what you guys are talking about, the best laugh ive had in a while

  • @dewinmoonl
    @dewinmoonl18 жыл бұрын

    I loved the commentating. From the biased views to the complete shock to the biased crowed and all.

  • @GreenPancakes
    @GreenPancakes17 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much for that, i'm glad that it was translated in this game..

  • @AndrewTheTransformer
    @AndrewTheTransformer9 жыл бұрын

    classic game and always enjoy watching this!

  • @ckyisyourfuture
    @ckyisyourfuture15 жыл бұрын

    I miss Blackman. He's one of those heroes of yesteryear whose name has quickly become legend.

  • @llihnroht
    @llihnroht18 жыл бұрын

    great video!! gotta love boxer! =D

  • @TopCatOwns
    @TopCatOwns17 жыл бұрын

    I miss Boxer. back when I play brood war daily all anyone talked about was Boxer and how much he owned. this is the first time ive ever seen any of his videos tho. he has the best M&M uber micro ive ever seen. damn!

  • @johnldu
    @johnldu15 жыл бұрын

    holy crap... why did no one think about this?!! the commentators are giving everything away!!

  • @ZWCoolkid
    @ZWCoolkid16 жыл бұрын

    Agreed, Boxer's micromanagement will always be impressive, but his macro (as was everyone's) was sorely lacking back in these days.

  • @waterskizz1
    @waterskizz115 жыл бұрын

    DUDE I LOVE THAT FRIGEN ANNOUNCER! 6:17 was funny as shit. "i dont really know whats so special about it anyway".

  • @Tom0000
    @Tom000015 жыл бұрын

    MAN THIS GUY IS BRUTAL "i should be biased cuz the audience is biased" "its a good move to use a scouting drone...oh its not a scouting drone" "he might try a cheap trick...of using a dropship" -_- boxer was just toying with him the entire game.

  • @Jescar
    @Jescar14 жыл бұрын

    'That could be a scouting drone?' 'I think that is a scouting drone actually!' 'Oh no, it's a hatchery' 'Ok he is getting his spawning po- Oh no he is not...what a weird build' This guys should do Stand up Comedy for Starcraft commentary

  • @jellyfishingftwlol
    @jellyfishingftwlol15 жыл бұрын

    thanks ^_^

  • @versagus
    @versagus14 жыл бұрын

    Boxer is obviously listening to the commentators as he responds to the exact positions of all of Blackmans expansions when they come up.

  • @Kcusnza
    @Kcusnza15 жыл бұрын

    lol "I've never seen such a small amount of marines do so much damage!" Yep thats Boxer

  • @coulthard1984
    @coulthard198418 жыл бұрын

    all time classic video with godly mnm micro

  • @PrinceofMacedon
    @PrinceofMacedon17 жыл бұрын

    The commentary was hilarious IMO (almost as entertaining as Boxer's micro).

  • @bmelanie
    @bmelanie17 жыл бұрын

    "since everyone is biased against Blackman I will be biased against Boxer"

  • @yawnyda1st
    @yawnyda1st15 жыл бұрын

    LMFAO... 4:25 I don't think I have ever laughed so hard that I cried while watching a SC game...Kudos to the commentator!

  • @luke8294
    @luke829414 жыл бұрын

    What use are the glass boxes they are sitting in? Are they soundproofed or something?

  • @martino6172
    @martino61725 жыл бұрын

    The time when best of 3 was not yet discovered.

  • @RFToxicTofu
    @RFToxicTofu15 жыл бұрын

    "Ooooh, hez dropping zere, Boxer is prepared, Boxer is prepared and, oooooh zhe overlord diehzeh. Whe Boxer was weally well prepared with free tanks " >_> What a great commentator.

  • @henkliveonstage
    @henkliveonstage17 жыл бұрын

    Amazing moves by Boxer, respect!

  • @Itsallover57
    @Itsallover5715 жыл бұрын

    I may not be able to understand those other asian commentators but at least you know when somethings going on and gets you pumped to watch.

  • @YumeNoEien
    @YumeNoEien17 жыл бұрын

    aww man,.. none of blackman's true potential came out in that game! :( Loved the "The crowd is screaming, but i don't why. It's just a common move. At the start."

  • @PremusRed
    @PremusRed16 жыл бұрын

    Yea thanks guys for clearing that up. I feel much better about boxer now.

  • @Broockle
    @Broockle15 жыл бұрын

    i didn't get the command center interceptor trick, did interceptors die everytime he landed? nice vid

  • @omuploii
    @omuploii17 жыл бұрын

    1-st of all Blackman has all mu respect and he is, in my view the real, and only winner of the match. He played vs the favorite contestant, in a foreign country, surrounded by HIS fans, while the game was beeing commentated upon by HIS countrymen, who were SHAMELESSLY HELPING HIM AND OFFERING HIM CLUES ABOUT BLACKMANS EVERY MOVE (the comentator himself mentions this in a game which is supposed to be impartial but is NOTHING OF THAT SORT).

  • @jzero4813
    @jzero481316 жыл бұрын

    Well, to be fair, this was five years ago, so the protocols of professional starcraft play were perhaps not as widely known at the time. There was also, as he noted, an incident in a counterstrike tournament around that time where the players *could* hear the commentators, so it could have been a justifiable concern.

  • @xxxx85
    @xxxx8515 жыл бұрын

    The reason there is such a big difference in level of gaming between korean and non-korean progamers is that in Korea, first of all it's so much easier to play alot of highlevel games when you're starting to play, at internet cafes or whatever. Also, the knowledge about the game is much higher all in all.

  • @noobrages
    @noobrages13 жыл бұрын

    @FishTurd69 what about positioning, he got any medivacs?

  • @numbers93
    @numbers9315 жыл бұрын

    "Obviously the audience is REALLY annoying me. They should just shut up, I guess." LOL I love this commentator! =D

  • @Machdude
    @Machdude16 жыл бұрын

    The world's best Terran Player and one of the best Micro-players in the world. He is known as "the emperor" and is the holder of the highest win record in the world. In short, he is considered the best Starcraft player here.

  • @ShiroGomi
    @ShiroGomi17 жыл бұрын

    Micromanagement is skillfully controlling many units on one screen, like in the middle of a battle. So, if there were two dragoons versus two seige tanks (in tank mode), the drags would normally win. Boxer has a trick involving jumping to and from a dropship, which is a Micro mngmt. solution to that. The opposite is Macromanagement, which is efficiently keeping track of all your bases and outposts, tech, etc.

  • @Machdude
    @Machdude16 жыл бұрын

    What the commentator does not seem to understand is that Boxer is a Micro specialist and the small amount of units actually plays to his advantage because he doesn't use a lot of units. Also, the Terran has the advantage of having the base unit having a set damage with both and and ground attack.

  • @jtan86
    @jtan8617 жыл бұрын

    Boxer has been one of the best for more like 6 years He has not been considered the best player for the last couple of years though, but probably the funniest and most original. This game was from 2002 btw, and blackman pretty much is no more now.

  • @ShowXTime777
    @ShowXTime77714 жыл бұрын

    @ehnogi please refer to the description box. VioleTAK is not the person that's commentating.

  • @qianweijia1
    @qianweijia115 жыл бұрын

    1 engineering bay takes 60secs. then a turret is 30secs. then to get anti-air ,you need factory of 80 seconds. then a starport of 70 seconds. then 60secs per Wraith. Wraith=210 seconds. 40 secs for control tower. 80 seconds for armory. 60secs for valk to be built. Valkyrie=390 secs. 80 secs for science facility. 80secs for vessel. Science Vessel=370secs. Don't forget supply depots and the vast resourses to make all of these

  • @RaidenX
    @RaidenX17 жыл бұрын

    thats what i called well played, nice micro...

  • @86Corvus
    @86Corvus13 жыл бұрын

    arent they playing in a soundproof booths?

  • @Tom0000
    @Tom000015 жыл бұрын

    also, i have a question...what was boxer doing while he was in blackman's base? i guess macro+micro didnt happen..just micro

  • @benniboi13
    @benniboi1316 жыл бұрын

    Why did blackman use dark swarm at around 20 mins? Doesn't that only stop flying units?

  • @ckyisyourfuture
    @ckyisyourfuture7 ай бұрын

    i'm here for the nostalgia. commented on this 14 years ago

  • @Rickdeckard2020
    @Rickdeckard202016 жыл бұрын

    Great video. Is there any championship videos where a Zerg wins? All I see is terrans beating the living daylights out of Zergs all the time

  • @digimon969
    @digimon96913 жыл бұрын

    i love how he says "Blackman is the looser!" instead of "Boxer is the winner" x)

  • @redkid1224
    @redkid122414 жыл бұрын

    The boxes are soundproof GOOD RIDDENCE :D

  • @setyouback
    @setyouback16 жыл бұрын

    wow one of the best

  • @danielkirk1
    @danielkirk114 жыл бұрын

    The commentator was pretty good, way better than 99 percent of other commentators. As for the gameplay, black seemed to have been a bit nervous? His micro was a bit rusty albeit better than mine.

  • @Madeen42
    @Madeen4215 жыл бұрын

    amazing game

  • @ShiroGomi
    @ShiroGomi17 жыл бұрын

    Now, it's true that the commentator is saying somewhat abrasive things occasionally. But you have to understand, Boxer's patrols on those island expansions were maintaining some Godly level of success. It does indeed look a little like Boxer knows everything on the map. Also, at the beginning, he's right to be annoyed with the crowd too. Even though the players can't hear the crowd, it's pretty biased against anyone whose not Korean.

  • @chibixleon
    @chibixleon16 жыл бұрын

    wow this commentator is so funny. id watch a few more games with this guy just for laughs hahah

  • @RFToxicTofu
    @RFToxicTofu15 жыл бұрын

    THE COMMENTATOR DOES NOT THINK. "I hope boxer does not hear the commentator, because it wouldn't be fair" HE'S IN A FUCKING BOX!!!

  • @LemonVince
    @LemonVince14 жыл бұрын

    I remember Klazart telling us that we don't have e-sports in american because we never had any player as entertaining as Boxer. Actually, no. It's because at the begining of SC, we had only this crappy commentator :p Long life to new commentators on VioletAK. Keep up the good work :p

  • @Darict
    @Darict17 жыл бұрын

    Boxer is really good at specialized micros. I think they are both very good players

  • @DarrenFlood1995
    @DarrenFlood199514 жыл бұрын

    @RixdorferWurstmusik thanks

  • @Tony000888
    @Tony00088815 жыл бұрын

    The commentator clearly underestimate boxer's marine control, we don't call boxer The Lord of Rines for nothing. All hail the Emperor!

  • @GaudyGabriev03
    @GaudyGabriev0311 жыл бұрын

    and the link??

  • @yungjaeda
    @yungjaeda14 жыл бұрын

    funniest commentary i've ever heard in my life lmfao

  • @chungster41
    @chungster4117 жыл бұрын

    How does boxer always know where the other guy's expos are and stuff? Dont get me wrong i am a HUGE boxer fan, but does he use comast station and the commentators dont catch it or something? just curious

  • @qianweijia1
    @qianweijia115 жыл бұрын

    bunker takes 30 seconds to build. in which time the drones can kill the SCV. althought the SCV has 60 hp compared to the 40 of a drone. a drone has a ranged attack so theoretically, up to 10 drones can attack a SCV at once. 10*5 of drone attack=50 damage right there. there is a pause of 2 seconds per drone fire. so if zerg responds fast enough the bunker will be 16% completed. Academy takes 80 secs.+1 firebat is 24 secs.+ the time it needs to get to the bunker which is about 16 sec. 2 mins total

  • @Jaysnipes
    @Jaysnipes17 жыл бұрын

    How can I watch tornaments taking place at real time and are there any little league starcraft tornaments for 15 year olds? Ill be glad if anyone can tell me because ever since i was 9 I've was so drag into the storyline and the video game, I even hae it for nintindo

  • @AFearOfAwesome
    @AFearOfAwesome13 жыл бұрын

    It sounded like he was saying "We're just waiting for the commentators to finish they're nonsense."

  • @Arwcwb
    @Arwcwb16 жыл бұрын

    The commentator speaks English, and that is awesome!

  • @Son727
    @Son72713 жыл бұрын

    @FishTurd69 well, a half surround enables the marine to micro backwards while they shoot, so usually at high level play, zerg players always run their speedlings around the marines and surround them.

  • @SDAspra
    @SDAspra17 жыл бұрын

    this commentator ROCKS. Funniest guy EVER

  • @usmh
    @usmh16 жыл бұрын

    Concerning the commentator; please keep in mind that Starcraft ain't exactly a mainstream sport like football yet. Keeping the commentating at a basic level is of course good for all those who aren't into Brood War so much.

  • @theslayer922
    @theslayer92215 жыл бұрын

    lmao im surprised how no one is commenting on the hilarious commentator

  • @gussick
    @gussick14 жыл бұрын

    I like how the commentator keeps pointing out the obvious

  • @Quincy0047
    @Quincy004715 жыл бұрын

    Man, boxer just harassed that guy to death! With amazing micro, as is to be expected from boxer.

  • @Renesis16xT
    @Renesis16xT11 жыл бұрын

    The best thing is that Blackman in 2002 didn't have internet connection at home.

  • @BAVtoC
    @BAVtoC13 жыл бұрын

    @RixdorferWurstmusik thx :)

  • @ShowXTime777
    @ShowXTime77714 жыл бұрын

    @ehnogi read the description. He's not the one that's commentating.

  • @TippmanFaith
    @TippmanFaith14 жыл бұрын

    oh cool!! i didn't know sacha cohen's bruno character did commentating for starcraft games!!

  • @zergling6000
    @zergling600015 жыл бұрын

    i agree with what you say about the commentator, he did bring up some good (if rudimentary) strategy points which i found interesting but he clearly wasnt ready for the experience of watching a game in korea. why would the audience be there if they werent going to cheer and pick a favorite player and what a surprise that its someone of their own race. Ever watched the Olympics buddy?

  • @GagnarIsUnruly
    @GagnarIsUnruly15 жыл бұрын

    Boxer didn't macro at all. He totally sleepwalked through that game.

  • @killanator21
    @killanator2116 жыл бұрын

    i like how he explains why he transfers drones lol

  • @NikorasuLee
    @NikorasuLee15 жыл бұрын

    When this guy said he wished the audience would shut up, everyone watching in TV was probably yelling STFU

  • @Renesis16xT
    @Renesis16xT10 жыл бұрын

    Poszukaj wywiadów z nim. Gra z kompem i zegarkiem (bo nie miał chyba nawet stopera). Obliczanie timingów i doprowadzanie ich do perfekcji. Kafejki komputerowe. Tylko w tych kafejkach trudno raczej było spotkać kogoś "równego" ;]

  • @W00tbeer1
    @W00tbeer114 жыл бұрын

    @luke8294 Yes they are so they can't hear the crowd screaming when something important is built or whatever.

  • @nethitters
    @nethitters16 жыл бұрын

    Wow, this could have been such a great vid had there been a commentator that wasn't so clueless.

  • @Xellos357
    @Xellos35714 жыл бұрын

    does anyone actually know if the players can actually hear the commentators???

  • @dhkdeoen
    @dhkdeoen11 жыл бұрын

    it was 2002. Many zergs also used hydras for more firepower at that time. it turned out that it's useless with dark swarm, so that's why people started to use lings.

  • @StefanKovatchev
    @StefanKovatchev17 жыл бұрын

    of course they are both wearing earbuds inside of headphones in a sound proof booth to ensure a fair match

  • @xmadnessmanx
    @xmadnessmanx14 жыл бұрын

    @PackardHenry Read the description please...

  • @ShowXTime777
    @ShowXTime77714 жыл бұрын

    please read the description guys. VioleTAK is not commentating

  • @CaptainCrunchOwns
    @CaptainCrunchOwns15 жыл бұрын

    Almost felt like Boxer was toying with him.

  • @lolll666
    @lolll66614 жыл бұрын

    @florida12341000 why is boxer's name boxer when he isn't a boxer?

  • @Heavyarms2050
    @Heavyarms205015 жыл бұрын

    we as in who?

  • @Fama0
    @Fama015 жыл бұрын

    I don't think the commentator is that biased, I thought he was actually quite neutral. The "can he hear the commentators" was caused by Boxer finding his expansions very quickly, AND probably because (the commentator said it) there was a rematch at CS because the players could hear the commentators.

  • @grml0815
    @grml081514 жыл бұрын

    I wonder how many people have no idea that the commentator ([pG]Korn) was one of the founders, and is the only one remaining of the initial crew, of a big online poker school. He's a millionaire today and probably wouldn't give a flying fuck about what you think of his accent. :P

  • @killert0mat0
    @killert0mat015 жыл бұрын

    Crazy how pros can still put up a fight after getting hit so hard.

  • @jaejunie
    @jaejunie14 жыл бұрын

    @PackardHenry not clear? don't you think blackman would've complained way beforehand if he could hear anything..

  • @morqueiisto
    @morqueiisto17 жыл бұрын

    which one is blackman??

  • @ZWCoolkid
    @ZWCoolkid16 жыл бұрын

    No, micro was pretty decent even back then. Micro has improved marginally in most areas, dramatically in a few. In modern games macro-heavy tends to win more than micro-heavy play.

  • @teoteous
    @teoteous15 жыл бұрын

    Blackman was pretty good. The only problem was that he faced one of the top pros in the contry that accounted for almost half of all Starcraft copies sold in the world. I mean. With that many people laying the ones who are good are REALLY good.

  • @Govi627
    @Govi62718 жыл бұрын

    who the hell expands that early!

  • @PaoteKid08
    @PaoteKid0812 жыл бұрын

    Yeah he acts like this is a golf game lol

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