Congrats on the 30K subs. Great video Brian. Thanks for the review. Never used Bouncer but need to try them out. Sláinte!

@ShortCircuitedBrewers

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks!! They work well! 👍🍻

Great review Brian! Always love watching your detailed videos. Keep it up 👍🏻

@ShortCircuitedBrewers

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks!! 👍🍻

I have to get one of these. My dad was an HVAC-R tech and mainly built beer systems for bars and his nickname was "Bouncer". Thanks for another great review!

@ShortCircuitedBrewers

3 жыл бұрын

Haha thanks!! 👍🍻

Another gem from Brian!

@ShortCircuitedBrewers

2 жыл бұрын

👍🍻

Thinking of buying one Brian as I do a lot of dry hopping. Great video and congrats on the 30 000 subs! Cheers.

@ShortCircuitedBrewers

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks man!! 👍🍻

Very nicely done Brian as always. I use the MD version bouncer filter pretty often. This looks better with those tri clamp fittings.

@ShortCircuitedBrewers

3 жыл бұрын

Yes it worked really well to attach it to the fermenter! 👍🍻

Excellant! I’ve been lookin at these. Thanks for the review.

@ShortCircuitedBrewers

3 жыл бұрын

Definitely!! 👍🍻

Awesome video's and very helpful.

@ShortCircuitedBrewers

6 ай бұрын

Thanks! 👍🍻

For dry hopping, I use a keg with an enclosed hop spider with the dip tube running through it. The hops roam free on the outside of the spider and are then filtered out when I transfer to a serving keg. I have a Spike Flex and the Bouncer filter would allow me to dry hop in the Flex - definitely worth checking out. Thanks for sharing.

@ShortCircuitedBrewers

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!!👍🍻

Excellent video! I use the Brewers Hardware wort strainer for my filter. Works excellent. Cheers!

@ShortCircuitedBrewers

3 жыл бұрын

Nice! That thing looks really robust! 👍🍻

I use a similar one from amazon. It has the same blue filter. Attach to fermenter, purge line with beer then attach to keg. The purged beer usually has junk in it anyways. I also tighten the filter housing a little with a pipe wrench to get a good seal.

@ShortCircuitedBrewers

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah they can leak! Cheers! 👍🍻

I think it’s bloody awesome that you reply to all comments... (all 30,000)🥰😎

@ShortCircuitedBrewers

3 жыл бұрын

Haha! Thanks it's a chore sometimes but I enjoy it! 👍🍻

I have two of the original bouncers inline. Red to blue. Big fan. Also great dudes that make them. Met them at nhc a few times.

@ShortCircuitedBrewers

3 жыл бұрын

Yes they do support the community for sure! 👍🍻

Nice video! I’m looking to upgrade from the big plastic paper cartridge type filter. Curious if you have tried any of the stainless steel filters you mentioned and what you thought. Thanks.

I personally use two small home brew versions of this filter. One is for filtering big sediment and the other for fine sediment. Usually gets the majority of it out without getting stuck transfer and helps clear the beer of hop/yeast sediment. I would definitely use that one when I eventually upgrade my brewing system.

@ShortCircuitedBrewers

3 жыл бұрын

Nice! It definitely works! 👍🍻

That's a LOT of hop sludge! I have yet to buy a filter. Something like this looks interesting and much easier to use than the kind of filters that were available 20 years ago when I last looked into the topic. I may have to revisit this topic and look into this gadget. Thanks!

@ShortCircuitedBrewers

3 жыл бұрын

Yes sir!! The cold crash helped too. But that's a ton of potential hop matter to get into your keg! Cheers Larry!!

@mattellis4075

3 жыл бұрын

I agree, I would use this with heavily dry hopped IPA and a beer that I make with toasted coconut flakes. In the past I've run these through a 10 micron filter and wondered about stripping out flavor and aroma.

Great video/topic , always looking forward to your videos. I'm making my own system and think about a LauterHelix filter. Any experiance with this kind of filter?

This good man rescued the last pint!

@ShortCircuitedBrewers

3 жыл бұрын

Haha!! 🖐️👍🍻

I use a 1 micron filter from my fermenter to the keg. This is only on lagers and beers that I don't want sediment in. The floating dip tube of the fermenter helps with keeping yeast and hop debris out. All of my dry hop beer I use a hop sack to help with debris as well, this also helps with really keeping grassy notes down. To clean and sanitize the filter, I just go keg to keg. Then it will be sanitized and full of co2.

@ShortCircuitedBrewers

3 жыл бұрын

Sounds like you have a good system worked out. Thanks for sharing! 👍🍻

I use two of the smaller units of this filter available through amazon that use 3/8th tubing. I use the blue filter in the first chamber and the white filter in the second. always get super clear beer this way for not too much work.

@ShortCircuitedBrewers

3 жыл бұрын

Nice that sounds like a good technique! 👍🍻

I just bought the baby brother to the bouncer, but nice to see they make a pro version for when I order my Spike conical. 😀

@ShortCircuitedBrewers

3 жыл бұрын

It works!! That's for sure! I think I could have used the blue filter, but I was happy with the results! 👍🍻

I’m still using a coverted water filter with 3micron disposable filters and it’s awkward and clunky to use. Looking to upgrade. Happy to see you filtering a hazy, lots of debate in that. I’m back to using hop bags for all my dry hops to avoid clogging keg poppets which is a big issue for me. Any debris at all clogs them up good and taking them apart without oxygenation is near impossible. Clogged kegerator is a embarrassing too.

@ShortCircuitedBrewers

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah nothing like trying to serve someone and having a clog.. 😔 👍🍻

I use the Bouncer to bottle my NEIPAs. Since I'm not working with CO2, I fill the whole sterilezed bottling system with preboiled water and hook it on the bottom of my FastFerment... Like this I need to flush the system with a bit of beer (~0.5l), but at least I can avoid oxidation as good as possible for this system. I found that the finest filter (white one) is best for my need - no impact on hazy appearance of the final beer!

@ShortCircuitedBrewers

3 жыл бұрын

Awesome Thanks for the tip!n

Thanks for sharing this info. I use the BouncerMD version with the red filter. Like you said, it is nice for keeping the particles out of the keg. For me it is especially useful to keep the keg quick release from getting plugged during pressure transfer (~8-10 psi) or gravity. On another note, I’ve started converting my cold side tubing to EVA Barrier and DuoTight and I’ve noticed you have this in your brewery too. I’d be interested in seeing what you’ve come up with for connecting that stuff to typical accessories like bottling tools (counter pressure unit at MoreBeer -specifically), picnic taps, and even BouncerMD. BouncerMD comes with two different size sets of barbed fitting but nothing that would mesh well (ha, get it? mesh. filter. -eh well 🥸) with EVA Barrier. (Trying to standardize on 8mm OD). Sorry for the long post. Maybe a video idea?

@ShortCircuitedBrewers

3 жыл бұрын

I'll see what I can do😁👍🍻

For the rotation of tri-clamps you can better use Teflon o-rings instead of lubed EPDM or silicone rings. I use them under pressure on my racking arm without any lubricant. Great videos!

@ShortCircuitedBrewers

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks!! Good tip!

Just ordered the Mac Daddy version plus extra filters after watching this video. We had an old off brand filter that got jammed so looking forward to the official bouncer version. Sadly our current ferm chamber doesn't have room to attach the TC pro version directly to the racking arm but looks like the Mac Daddy will do just fine. We used to just submerge the lines and filter in star san but I'm gonna try your CO2 purge trick too!

@ShortCircuitedBrewers

3 жыл бұрын

Nice!! Good luck guys!! 👍🍻

@qedljkn

7 ай бұрын

I just bought the same version along with the blue and red filters. How is the Mac Daddy version holding up?

I’ve got this one and it’s been great. Thinking about adding a Mac daddy as a secondary to save money.

@ShortCircuitedBrewers

3 жыл бұрын

Nice let me know how it goes! 👍🍻

I have a bouncer from a long time ago still. Never use it but then again, I haven’t dry hopped a beer in a long time. I may use it again if do an IPA again in the future.

@ShortCircuitedBrewers

3 жыл бұрын

👍🍻

one note of caution using the Bouncer MD. check the flange area where the seal seats. I don't know if I over tightend or what. I didn't realize I had a crack around mine and the seal became displaced when tightened. I ended up oxidixing 2 x 12 gal batches of NEIPA before figuring out where the air was getting in. I was replacing the seal when I noticed the crack. Worked great for first 10 batches are so.

@ShortCircuitedBrewers

2 жыл бұрын

Oh no! Thanks for that tip! 👍🍻

Any chance of aeration from the beer passing through the mesh? I have a gasket with mesh and although it works I'm always worried its adding some oxygen. I suppose it would only be a problem if the flow rate is too high? Great video as always!

@ShortCircuitedBrewers

3 жыл бұрын

I think if you purge the space with CO2 you should be fine.

Yup I use a Bouncer, not quite the elaborate tri clamp set up but it does work well. You have to watch though as stated if the screen is small you will clog it with some beers. Overall I am happy with it.

@ShortCircuitedBrewers

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah I might have been able to use the blue filter.. but I'm happy with the results. 👍🍻

Interesting Brian. Do you think an enclosed hop spider or bag for your fermentation would mostly eliminate any sediment during transfer? Congrats on the sub milestone. Love your videos braj.

@ShortCircuitedBrewers

3 жыл бұрын

You could do it that way. It's hard to do that method and not introduce oxygen. 👍🍻

@Louz_Drumz

3 жыл бұрын

@@ShortCircuitedBrewers good point

Great review mate! Once again, answered all the questions I had. Definitely looks like a good investment especially as a filter before the plate chiller. Side note, do you have a dart board in your home bar yet 😄 ?

@ShortCircuitedBrewers

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Leo!! Lol not yet!! 👍🍻 🎯

@mattellis4075

3 жыл бұрын

I would recommend after the plate chiller. It is only rated to 150F.

Makes me think twice about trying the old water filter option with all that purging that needs to be done (way too much on a big water filter). Thanks for the vid!

@ShortCircuitedBrewers

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks! 👍🍻

I actually use a 10 inch inline water filter with a 1 micron washable filter. The advantages are that it never clogs and significantly speeds clarification as it even catches yeast particles (good if you have any yeast intolerance issues). Downside you lose about a litre of beer, but I account for that in Brewfather when I want to use it. Contrary to perceived wisdom it does not affect aroma or taste as I have split batch tested just that to check.

@ShortCircuitedBrewers

3 жыл бұрын

Sounds like a good solution for your needs! Thanks for the info! 👍🍻

Nice video, I personally have the other style filter that’s half the price and has three times the surface area....... It works amazing however, I don’t even bother with it anymore I just cold crash!

@ShortCircuitedBrewers

3 жыл бұрын

👍🍻

Great video Brian, as usual. I use mine for transfer to fermenter and to keg, both with white filter and never had an issue. Your purge process was interesting. I have just been dumping about a pint's worth at the beginning before I attach the liquid disconnect to the keg (I allow for extra in the fermenter). Do you think that works as well? Appreciate your opinion. Thanks and keep them coming!

@ShortCircuitedBrewers

3 жыл бұрын

It will work, it just wastes a little more beer. But it will work. 👍🍻

Can you use two of those for a two stage filtration system to trap large and fine particles?

@ShortCircuitedBrewers

3 жыл бұрын

Definitely! 👍🍻

Hey, i've got an idea: Put a t-piece in the hose between the filter and the fermenter. hook a valve up to the third piece of hose and open it to release the pressure. Just like a preassure release valve. This could help purging the space between filter and fermenter with co2 while beeing fully hooked up.

@ShortCircuitedBrewers

3 жыл бұрын

That's not a bad idea at all! 👍🍻

@HLBmusix

3 жыл бұрын

@@ShortCircuitedBrewers worst case scenario: the connections (T-piece/valve) can’t hold the pressure. But you can test that before transferring the beer by using more pressure to purge the lines than there is in the fermenter

Thanks for reviewing the Bouncer Pro. You must’ve really finessed the dip tube on your Flex+ to only come out with such a small amount of hop matter. I’m looking to get one of these but was getting skeptical after reading so many users go off on clogging the filters.

@ShortCircuitedBrewers

3 жыл бұрын

The cold crash helped too. This filter is huge!! So it will handle much more than I wound with in it. 👍🍻

Could you use this from the brewing pan to the fermenter to keep some of the trub out that gets through? Thanks

@ShortCircuitedBrewers

2 жыл бұрын

Sure as long as it is down to pitching temperature. 👍🍻

@woodygames1684

2 жыл бұрын

@@ShortCircuitedBrewers thanks for the speedy reply, might give it a try 😊

@ShortCircuitedBrewers

2 жыл бұрын

@@woodygames1684 👍🍻

I'm not too worried about the filtering going to the keg but curious what anyone is using from filtering from the boil kettle before the chiller if using a therminator since hop particles like to stick inside of plate chillers. I've seen some guys use a hoprocket stuffed with clean steel wool scrubbers but haven't attempted this yet. I do use a hop screen if possible while its pumping into the fermenter. But still looking for ideas to help keep the plate chiller cleaner after boil is done. Even if using hop screens, there's plenty of trub flushing through the plates.

@ShortCircuitedBrewers

Жыл бұрын

Yeah that is an issue for plate chillers. That's one of the reasons why I don't use one. Have you checked out the Hop stopper from the electricbrewery.com? From what I've seen it looks pretty darn effective. 👍🍻

@kevingebert4316

Жыл бұрын

@@ShortCircuitedBrewers I have not heard of that one and checking it out now. Thanks! I use those bazooka screens but that only keeps the bigger particles out. I see lots has changed in last 3yrs since my last brew day. I moved in 2020 and recently watched your live brew a week or so ago. It got me fired up to get new area setup and going. I still have Blichmann top tier and been wanting to convert to full electric for past 10yrs. I have one 110v robobrew v3 and works good but that Herms setup you have is still on my wishlist. Keep the videos coming.

@ShortCircuitedBrewers

Жыл бұрын

@@kevingebert4316 awesome! Thanks for watching!

What was your pressure in the fermenter and how much co2 did you lose in the process

@ShortCircuitedBrewers

Жыл бұрын

About 5 psi I really can't say how much the main needle on the gauge didn't really move as far as well could tell. 👍🍻

I bought one of the ‘standard’ bouncers for transferring my neipas from an idea similar to what you were thinking. However I commonly run into an issue when transferring with gravity. I typically follow your sanitize/purge procedure, then I will run maybe a quarter cup of beer through the line to remove oxygen. The issue arises when any bubble or air enters the filter. I will lose the siphon and it is extremely difficult to get it going again. I ferment in spike flex fermenters and they are only rated to 2psi so pressure transfer is not an option

@ShortCircuitedBrewers

3 жыл бұрын

Sound like you need a flex plus lid 😁 pressure transfer is awesome! 👍🍻

@kylepietro396

3 жыл бұрын

@@ShortCircuitedBrewers I’ve been thinking about that. I do do pressure fermentation/transfers from my sanke keg, but sometimes another beer is taking that place. You may be right, time to invest

@ShortCircuitedBrewers

3 жыл бұрын

@@kylepietro396 yep! Just a heads up you might be able to find a cheap one somewhere because they just came out with a three-port lid so you might find someone that's selling their old two port lid for cheap.. just a thought. You might even post in this bike Facebook group and offer to purchase one if somebody's looking to upgrade. 👍🍻

@kylepietro396

3 жыл бұрын

@@ShortCircuitedBrewers I was just looking on the spike website, and it looks like the three port lid with the pressure clamp is $104, but out of stock. This is still much cheaper than their original pressure kit upgrade! Sorry I am unfamiliar, but what is the bike facebook group?

@ShortCircuitedBrewers

3 жыл бұрын

Sorry typo...lol SPIKE is what I meant.. lol fat fingers!

How do you clean the bouncer’s clear cup, I used PBW and star san but it discolored the clear cup, any ideas?

@ShortCircuitedBrewers

6 ай бұрын

I would definitely not soak it in either of those. A quick wash and a quick sanitizer wash is what I would recommend. Pbw could weaken the plastic or cause it to crack. 👍🍻

I have a wild idea of using keg as fermenters but using the solder fittings brew hardware sells and putting a dip tube on the bottom and using something like this to transfer to another keg.

@ShortCircuitedBrewers

3 жыл бұрын

Let me know if that works!! I'd be interested in hearing! 👍🍻

@aaron5222

3 жыл бұрын

@@ShortCircuitedBrewers yeah for sure. I am recently rebuilding my brew system and I plan on using kegs to ferment in addition to my conical. but the idea of dealing with trub or hops without substantial beer loss is a work in progress

@ShortCircuitedBrewers

3 жыл бұрын

@@aaron5222 cool! I'll look forward to hearing more! 👍🍻

Do you know if they sell replacement screens?

@ShortCircuitedBrewers

3 жыл бұрын

Not sure check the website.

Great one. Once it’s available again in my local store it will be ordered. Guess if you take the finest mash you actually get the yeast out too prior to force carb.

@ShortCircuitedBrewers

3 жыл бұрын

It probably will let a little pass through. But would capture quite a bit. 👍🍻

@paskrell

3 жыл бұрын

@@ShortCircuitedBrewers good to know. Reason I’m asking is that I don’t keg but hate sediment. My plan is to buy one keg to force carb to the bottle with an iTab. The filter will be key to the setup I think.

@ShortCircuitedBrewers

3 жыл бұрын

You want a little yeast to make it through to carbonate your beer. 👍🍻

@paskrell

3 жыл бұрын

@@ShortCircuitedBrewers yes. But ideally not an inch of the bottom of each bottle lol. I don’t want yo explain to stand the bottles not to shake etc. It should be as drinkable as a commercial beer.

@ShortCircuitedBrewers

3 жыл бұрын

Lol yeah that's a bit much! Even with the white filter (finest) there would be enough yeast getting through to carbonate just fine. 👍🍻

Do you have to mount it with the filter basket downwards at first? I'm thinking that it could be mounted upside down from the start?

@ShortCircuitedBrewers

3 жыл бұрын

You could I guess? I was just thinking gravity would help the sediment drop to the bottom. I'm not sure it makes a ton of difference. 👍🍻

I use a water sediment filter with reusable filter. I think it was 5 micron filter so pretty much it is very bright. But after 5 to 8 months, still some sediments come through.

@ShortCircuitedBrewers

3 жыл бұрын

Not a bad solution for sure. How do you purge oxygen from it?

With 8oz of hops, did u use a hop spider or toss directly into kettle??

@ShortCircuitedBrewers

3 жыл бұрын

Dry hop direct in the fermenter. Watch the video to see what that looked like after the transfer..😳

I love my bouncer. It's such a great filtering unit. I need to figure out a better way to hook mine up to the SS Brew Bucket and Liquid ball lock post. I'm using 5/16 x 7/16 hose from brew bucket to bouncer, and then I have to reduce from 5/16 x 7/16 on other side of bouncer to the screw on jumper hose to the liquid post. It works but I feel like there's a better way. Not to mention, the ID of the hose is reduced on that jumper line. Feels bad lol. Cheers!

@ShortCircuitedBrewers

3 жыл бұрын

Which model?

@WreckedBrewery

3 жыл бұрын

@@ShortCircuitedBrewers I have the standard Bouncer. Thought about upgrading to the Bouncer Pro so I can screw on an adapter on either side to my needs. Do you have any suggestions?

@ShortCircuitedBrewers

3 жыл бұрын

@@WreckedBrewery the Mac Daddy has threads on it, might be more cost effective.

@WreckedBrewery

3 жыл бұрын

@@ShortCircuitedBrewers Good call. Thanks Brian. That should allow me to use a better connection on the keg side from the looks of it. The brew bucket side I'm good.

@ShortCircuitedBrewers

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah gives you some better options. 👍🍻

Glimpsing that tri clamp riptide

@ShortCircuitedBrewers

3 жыл бұрын

Haha coming soon! 👍🍻

I have a small inline bouncer I use for my transfers, been super happy with it, and no to minimal issue with it getting clogged if you crash it before and go slow to start. Quick question for you Brian: The last part about the pump on the inlet side of the filter; I get where you are coming from, but what about particles getting stuck in the pump itself and clogging that up? This has been a debate of mine for a while and something I think about every time I transfer. Thoughts? Thanks as always. Videos are great.

@ShortCircuitedBrewers

3 жыл бұрын

I think you could go with the coarse mesh, just keep a close eye on it.

Muito bom Portugal

@ShortCircuitedBrewers

3 жыл бұрын

Cheers!! 👍🍻

Again!, why in the F are there two thumbs down on this video?! I don’t get it!.. anyway, great video Brian! Keep them coming!

@ShortCircuitedBrewers

3 жыл бұрын

Haha!! Thanks man!! 👍🍻

@michaelcooney7687

3 жыл бұрын

Did that review get an F....?? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🥰😎

@ShortCircuitedBrewers

3 жыл бұрын

Lol

Can you use it as distilling? I would put fruit into the filter, like that the alcohol would go thru the fruit and at the end of the line , I would get a nice alcohol with the taste of fruit What do you think? Thank you

Nothing to do with beer, but what game cabinet do you have in the background?

@ShortCircuitedBrewers

3 жыл бұрын

One I built myself. Has several 1000 games on it. Uses the X Arcade controller. With a windows PC. I designed and built the marquee myself as well. 👍🍻

Search this on Amazon. 3/4" Female NPT in-Line Strainer with mounting tab and 50 mesh Stainless Steel Screen” Works the same. But is a fraction of the cost.

@ShortCircuitedBrewers

3 жыл бұрын

Ok thanks!

Food for thought there. How about fitting a floating " dip tube " to your outlet and you could put the filter that is made to go on the floating dip tube. Then use the finer filter on the inline filter with less risk of blockage.

@ShortCircuitedBrewers

3 жыл бұрын

Kinda hard to do on this fermenter. The dip tube is really large. They would be hard to find a tube that was flexible enough to float to the top and not kink because of the size. This is a good idea though like the fermzilla.. 👍🍻

@duncanbayne3078

3 жыл бұрын

@@ShortCircuitedBrewers Yes the fermentasaurus / fermzilla floating dip tube is quite narrow and could kink when working top down rather than top up.

@ShortCircuitedBrewers

3 жыл бұрын

@@duncanbayne3078 yes and the dip tube on the Spike flex is 1/2".

Bummer, can not find the Bouncer Pro anywhere... must have been a run after this video ! Even Amazon is saying "We don't know when or if this item will be back in stock."

@ShortCircuitedBrewers

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah I've reached out to them I hope to hear back soon on availability.👍🍻

Nice review, but it doesn't look like you got much hop particulates through the filter due to cold crashing, so not sure how much of a benefit it is.

@ShortCircuitedBrewers

3 жыл бұрын

There were some big chunks in there. I think I could have used the blue filter and captured some finer particles.👍🍻

I tried a cheaper filter with wine . This looks better and filters are reusable!

@ShortCircuitedBrewers

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah these filters really aren't polishing filters they're just more sediment filters if that's what you're looking for then it'll work.

Not filtering yet, but am filter curious.

@ShortCircuitedBrewers

3 жыл бұрын

Lol welcome to the filter world!!

Dislike the $$$ of the pro. I do have the baby brother of this one. I also use the blue filter screen thought about getting the finer mesh one.

@ShortCircuitedBrewers

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comments! 👍🍻

Out of stock...

@ShortCircuitedBrewers

3 жыл бұрын

Oh no!! Sorry about that. 😔

@shaggaroo

3 жыл бұрын

@@ShortCircuitedBrewers no worries brother, not your fault

I honestly don't think this is worth the cost and trouble. Dry hopping while pressure fermenting seems like a retarded futile effort, and a poor excuse to buy this product. Seems like a very niche use case.

@ShortCircuitedBrewers

3 жыл бұрын

Appreciate the feedback. It's not for everyone that's for sure. 👍🍻

@TheCBScott7

3 жыл бұрын

@@ShortCircuitedBrewers Nothing against you, I do enjoy your videos. I just think 95%+ of homebrewers wouldn't get much use out of this. I don't pressure ferment and always dry hop in a mesh bag, then cold crash before kegging.

@ShortCircuitedBrewers

3 жыл бұрын

No offense taken. 👍🍻