Borderline’s Good Object, Bad Behaviors

Borderline’s good object is compensatory: her misbehaviors and dysregulation belie it. Uses external regulation and fantasy to avoid the latter and thus affirm the former.
Narcissist’s misbehaviors are compensatory, intended to belie his/her bad object. Uses external regulation to enhance the former and thus deny the latter.
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  • @aalves9453
    @aalves94532 ай бұрын

    The borderline hands over control to A partner or A special friend. It stands to reason that the partner or special friend is replaceable once they've served their purpose. Some of these replacements are lost forever. Others wait in line for an opportunity to serve the borderline once again.

  • @herbertgoldstein1156

    @herbertgoldstein1156

    2 ай бұрын

    I guess the lost replacements are the lucky ones or the ones with enough balls to say not again

  • @aalves9453

    @aalves9453

    2 ай бұрын

    @@herbertgoldstein1156 Yup. The borderline will always have new recruits to replace the ones that were smart enough to leave. She'll keep doing this as long as their are still options who want anything to do with her or as long as their looks allow them to.

  • @herbertgoldstein1156

    @herbertgoldstein1156

    2 ай бұрын

    @@aalves9453 I had a girlfriend with borderline. She mentioned how many people dont like her but never got into specifics why. Nobody really lasted in her life. People got exchanged on the road. I guess its nice being able to attract a lof of people but in the end its all superficial...

  • @juligriffin2608

    @juligriffin2608

    8 күн бұрын

    Borderlines don’t always replace people, they often “sober up” and practice avoidance.

  • @jeannfav2921
    @jeannfav29213 ай бұрын

    I'm borderline. Diagnosed several years ago. The Psychiatrist said not one word about it, although took the DBT classes. I guess that should have clued me in. Having watched your videos and read your books is what brought clarity. It really helped me cope. I am flabbergasted that the psychiatric dept. at my HMO said very, very little. I remember telling my brother my diagnosis. Shoot, if I had known what the diagnosis really meant, I probably wouldn't have said a word. I'm close to my brother, but I feel people (even family) look at you differently with THAT kind of information. 😊

  • @co59720
    @co597203 ай бұрын

    The only actual content anywhere on the internet thanks for your time Sam

  • @tawnyjenkins5597

    @tawnyjenkins5597

    2 ай бұрын

    I agree. Thank you Sam for just being you. Thank you for sharing your knowledge with anyone willing to listen and learn. Have a great day, everyone.

  • @Chez8922-kf6cy

    @Chez8922-kf6cy

    Ай бұрын

    No kidding. He knows Borderline and Narcissists better than anyone I've seen.

  • @l3lackoutsMedia
    @l3lackoutsMedia2 ай бұрын

    In the recent time I get the feeling more and more, that my conscious is just some very highly elaborate program I (the subconscious) can adjust and nudge towards some goal.

  • @ld9862
    @ld98623 ай бұрын

    Did they know nothing about borderline 20-30 years ago? This describes my sister perfectly but therapists just pushed bipolar disorder and lithium.

  • @samvaknin

    @samvaknin

    3 ай бұрын

    By 1975, BPD has been perfectly described in the literature.

  • @martingd777

    @martingd777

    2 ай бұрын

    Research has vastly improved over the last 10yrs, 5yrs, 3yrs… that’s how I’ve finally made sense of my life at 45. Had this been more available 30yrs ago I would have lived a far more fulfilling life and hurt others and myself far far far less or not at all. There are 256 combinations of the criteria and no Borderliner is the same.. there is still so much stigma and generalization of it. 30yrs ago it was a women’s disorder. Now it’s 50/50 pretty much in men and women. Trauma, is Trauma. Small t or Big T doesn’t matter.

  • @hunterkaylie

    @hunterkaylie

    2 ай бұрын

    SPOT ON!!!!

  • @MKaufman850
    @MKaufman8502 ай бұрын

    I'm so thankful I found your videos. They help me to understand my inner workings so I can try to have relationships and friendships. I am so grateful for these resources. This video is so poignant to my life.

  • @mannymula1114
    @mannymula111413 күн бұрын

    Been so focused on my narcissistic ex obsessed about the diagnosis finding that I really have bpd I was diagnosed in the years ago but didn’t agree but your work brings clarity

  • @user-kq7bm4fr2b
    @user-kq7bm4fr2b2 ай бұрын

    Thank you for wonderful explanation

  • @user-ju8fn8fu9s
    @user-ju8fn8fu9s2 ай бұрын

    Thank you so much Dear Professor ❤

  • @TheAwesome2626
    @TheAwesome26263 ай бұрын

    Well. That makes a lot of sense for my situation. Food for thought, huh. 😂🤦🏽‍♂️

  • @thephilosophicalwitch2737
    @thephilosophicalwitch27372 ай бұрын

    oh my god... i have found like.... gold...

  • @ann-sylvianalule305
    @ann-sylvianalule3053 ай бұрын

    This explains my behaviour completely. Very thought provoking. Thank you, professor 🙏

  • @Riostunning
    @Riostunning2 ай бұрын

    Great video

  • @user-fv9lp3sg5k
    @user-fv9lp3sg5k2 ай бұрын

    The best Prof ever. ❤❤❤

  • @Treasuredkaleidoscope
    @Treasuredkaleidoscope2 ай бұрын

    I started to tear up. I felt ripped open. Like someone gazing into my core self. The hidden places inside of me. Exposed. Wow.

  • @Barbara-nw6pm

    @Barbara-nw6pm

    Ай бұрын

    I was suffering so long ...kind of grateful for a diagnoses

  • @joshuaworman4022
    @joshuaworman40222 ай бұрын

    would love a dedicated video on the reason dbt is so specifically effective.

  • @Chez8922-kf6cy

    @Chez8922-kf6cy

    Ай бұрын

    I've been through DBT and ten years later I'm worse than ever but I've had my life go completely down the toilet too.

  • @joshuaworman4022

    @joshuaworman4022

    Ай бұрын

    @@Chez8922-kf6cy dear god. do you know what went wrong with the treatment? sorry that happened.

  • @StevensJordan
    @StevensJordan3 ай бұрын

    Excellent lessons. Dare I say perfect

  • @soliloquy222
    @soliloquy2223 ай бұрын

    Very interesting, thanks for sharing. Compensatory vs defensive structures remind me of Nassim Taleb's concept of anti-fragility; growth from defeciency or damage - which would align with compensatory structures - vs fragility that would align with defensive structures.

  • @Blablahahahah
    @Blablahahahah2 ай бұрын

    Thank you very much 4 all the information. Can i please ask if you have a theory on how bpd and npd ocour. Are people born with it? I think it has to do with their upbringing / enviroment. Is that correct?

  • @samvaknin

    @samvaknin

    2 ай бұрын

    Watch the From Child to Narcissist playlist.

  • @AnnikaGramat
    @AnnikaGramat2 ай бұрын

    How does someone who is diagnosed with both BPD and NPD fit in this framework?

  • @samvaknin

    @samvaknin

    2 ай бұрын

    One diagnosis is dominant.

  • @bigqizzadog
    @bigqizzadog2 ай бұрын

    Run for your life

  • @godslittleprincess5454

    @godslittleprincess5454

    Ай бұрын

    Yes. They are terrible

  • @jkidron

    @jkidron

    25 күн бұрын

    Absolutely

  • @TruckerBLW
    @TruckerBLW2 ай бұрын

    Is it still the case that the borderline seeks to individuate ? Like a compulsion to misbehave in the way they are used to almost to disprove the good object? The one i was with drove me crazy with her projecting her sense of shame onto me, the relatively stable part. Or is it the push pull compulsion ?

  • @dior228
    @dior2283 ай бұрын

    It is not easy to be borderline. Any advise?

  • @samvaknin

    @samvaknin

    3 ай бұрын

    Search the playlists, especially the BPD playlist.

  • @riffcrypt8438

    @riffcrypt8438

    3 ай бұрын

    When you feel the uncontrollable urge to spew hatred at loved ones over nothing...don't do that. HOPE THIS HELPS.

  • @diamondedge3811

    @diamondedge3811

    2 ай бұрын

    @@riffcrypt8438 no, it really doesn't.

  • @newjerseefemale
    @newjerseefemale3 ай бұрын

    So a borderline needs a main partner and a friend? I have seen borderlines have a main person but go back to a friend as intimate when they are in dispute with the main person. Its a cycle for them basically having mutiple supplies, or a friend who is a safe place for intimacy.

  • @casket8530

    @casket8530

    8 күн бұрын

    They need ALL kinds of “partners”. Friends, best friends, male friends, exes, boyfriends, husbands. They need them all and they never stop adding people into their lives any chance they get. They use all kinds of apps, multiple profiles, sometimes even multiple phones. They need people to feed off of because they have no sense of self. So they latch onto people and mimic their behaviors/interests. My ex had different personalities depending on who she was around.

  • @juligriffin2608
    @juligriffin26083 ай бұрын

    I have always said about myself that I have what I call some sort of hope inside me that just won’t go away, but it doesn’t feel like something positive, just contrary to my hopelessness. I think this is the good object. It is the thing that when I feel like I am done, it’s over, there is that hope, that thing that is polar opposite to my reality and it sort of takes me over. I honestly don’t like it, and I have always wished it would just go away. When I try to describe it, people tend to think I am saying it is something good, but it just isn’t, and I don’t even know why. I think deep down I know it is just part of the black and white everything and that’s why it makes me sick.

  • @juligriffin2608

    @juligriffin2608

    3 ай бұрын

    Most annoying, it always makes a loud entrance.

  • @traveluniversity7867
    @traveluniversity78673 ай бұрын

    Can you do a video on coparenting with an undiagnosed borderline refuses to recognize any fault? I have an 8 year old with my ex wife who lives with me again. She pushed her way back in using depression and my daughter. I’m trying to do the best as a father but it’s truly hell. From deviant sexual behaviors to violence, to constant insults. Taking my valuables hostage. Wondering if eviction and a battle for primary custody is the right thing for my daughter. While knowing court systems favor mothers and when I’m not around my daughter isn’t safe. Please help!!

  • @redpilljesus

    @redpilljesus

    3 ай бұрын

    Security cameras (internet connected) in main areas. Tell her you won't abandon her. Tell her you support her. Then when she lashes out, take the footage and get a domestic violence protective order. She will get immediately removed from the home.

  • @traveluniversity7867

    @traveluniversity7867

    3 ай бұрын

    @@redpilljesus do you have a particular kind that you recommend? I’m afraid of the violence I just don’t want my daughter to see it. The issue is that even if she is removed from my home my daughter will be stuck with her in an unsafe place half the time. Been there already. Nir something si want to do again. You would think the court would issue me full custody but it takes a LOT more than strong words and DV to take a child away from her mother. And being that my daughter is still young she loves her a lot and still wants her around. It’s a no win situation for anyone involved

  • @confirmedbachelor6019

    @confirmedbachelor6019

    3 ай бұрын

    Prepare now for false allegations when you terminate the relationship.

  • @traveluniversity7867

    @traveluniversity7867

    3 ай бұрын

    @@confirmedbachelor6019 been there more than once. I’d rather her leave on her own. It eventually happens. But as soon as my daughter turns 12 the doors will be shut

  • @godslittleprincess5454

    @godslittleprincess5454

    Ай бұрын

    @@traveluniversity7867I dealt with a borderline for 8 years. I had to evict that demon, go no contact and see a therapist. Run for your life!!!!!

  • @marek2709
    @marek27093 ай бұрын

    Professor Vaknin, I've heard you say that someone with BPD can become healthier in later life. Can such a person feel genuine remorse for the way they treated someone decades earlier? Is it possible to have an honest and heartfelt conversation with them and take steps to mend the relationship, then have a somewhat ordinary relationship with them?

  • @samvaknin

    @samvaknin

    2 ай бұрын

    Yes, if the other party is mature and willing.

  • @marek2709

    @marek2709

    2 ай бұрын

    Thank you, that's reassuring to hear. @@samvaknin

  • @sarahg98__
    @sarahg98__3 ай бұрын

    Would u please tell us about relationship between avoidant and borderline

  • @danielruiz6875
    @danielruiz68753 ай бұрын

    If the ultimate goal of the narcissist is discard or separate from you. Whats the borderlines ultimate goal, the same? sorry for my english.

  • @samvaknin

    @samvaknin

    3 ай бұрын

    Search the BPD playlist.

  • @Randompersondoesntmatter

    @Randompersondoesntmatter

    3 ай бұрын

    The borderline wants to keep you forever but they will leave you preemptively so that you cannot leave them. They protect there emotions this way.

  • @TheDashingRogue
    @TheDashingRogue3 ай бұрын

    B O R D E R L I N E

  • @GLsJAwtomatica

    @GLsJAwtomatica

    2 ай бұрын

    Feels like I'm going to lose my mind

  • @Chez8922-kf6cy

    @Chez8922-kf6cy

    Ай бұрын

    You just keep on pushing my love over the borderline.

  • @tdesq.2463
    @tdesq.24633 ай бұрын

    If I can make a quick comment on the thumbnail picture: WOW!!!!

  • @niaflores4086
    @niaflores40863 ай бұрын

    What are they like with therapists?

  • @samvaknin

    @samvaknin

    3 ай бұрын

    All interpersonal relationships are processually identical.

  • @jamesdean1143
    @jamesdean1143Ай бұрын

    This is Meghan Markle to the T.