i listened to this episode in my right ear at work while using a speech-to-text headset on my left ear at work 6 hours ago and somehow was able to follow along better than 70% of chapo listeners which really says a lot about minecraft

Trueanon spent like 3 hours covering this and it was completely incoherent, Mr. chapo lays it out in 20 minutes

@joshuamarx8209

4 ай бұрын

They're definitely the JV squad...

@mortystraphouse5077

4 ай бұрын

that dude is so annoying. hes like scumbag vinny witha soul

@mattgilbert7347

4 ай бұрын

@@mortystraphouse5077 Brace? He's not so bad.

@augmentedsupersoldier

4 ай бұрын

​@@mattgilbert7347 he's funny but sometimes it's fucking impossible to follow what those two talk about, like they'll end up going on 25 minute long tangeants all the time it gets confusing at times

@mattgilbert7347

3 ай бұрын

@@augmentedsupersoldier this is not wrong. I do occasionally enjoy their tangents, but that producer "Young Chomsky' (sounds like a porn name imo) needs to be more assertive and get them back on topic lest the tangents become the actual content and vice versa. I gotta respect Brace for his service fighting for the Kurds (the good, lefty secularist Kurds) back in the day. He actually put his life on the line for his beliefs. That's admirable. Idk how close to the heavy fighting he was, but it was a hell of a lot closer than most lefty podcasters will ever be.

Operation Gladio = Europe, Operation Condor = South/Central America, Operation Phoenix = SouthEast Asia, MKUltra/Cointellpro= North America

@MrJohndoakes

4 ай бұрын

Phoenix was a "program" but in reality it was an attempt to create a Gestapo for hunting the political leadership of the National Liberation Front-S. Vietnam ("Viet Cong") because it was a shadow state inside South Vietnam. Phoenix had its own prison on Con Son Island, their own interrogation centers/microbases in every province (the PICs), a secret police/police paramilitaries in every province (the PRUs), a computerized system for dealing with information run by the Control Data Corporation, small precinct offices in every city/large town and similar but larger offices on the province level, and laws drafted to make this whole thing legal within S. Vietnam (the An Tre laws). The entire machine required the CIA, the S. Vietnamese Field Police, the US Army Special Forces, the SSS (intelligence arm) of the Army of Republic of S. Vietnam, the US Navy SEALs (for riverine and coastal areas) and also overlapped with the Chieu hoi program (promoting surrender for NLF and North Vietnamese soldiers) run by US Army psychological warfare and the S. Vietnamese, and also USAID (the CIA's cut-out in country) among others. This horror show took ten years to set up and ran from 1967 to the end of the war (it was "Vietnamized" after 1973.)

These guys are like friends of friends at a party who want to tell you a cool story, but are so inarticulate, you can't follow and you just say, "That's cool man," and leave.

Halfway through and I have no idea what is going on.

@sandym6347

4 ай бұрын

Did you watch the TV series? I think it would be difficult to follow this discussion unless you have.

@darrrrrby

4 ай бұрын

That seems like the opposite of what should be the case, is this not to entice people to watch haha​@@sandym6347

@joshuamarx8209

4 ай бұрын

Yes I love Americans that tell you how stupid they are without telling you how stupid they are. Try and keep up tootsie...

@TheSoup222222

4 ай бұрын

ngl i listened to this episode at work with a headset on the other ear for a PM inspection while working on a truck and i followed along just fine but i think that's just because i am too podcast brain to lose focus on what matters: what was i talking about?

@sandym6347

4 ай бұрын

@@darrrrrbyFair point

WOW. HOW CAN U NOT BE OBSESSED WITH IT!!! Incredible work.

Has to be said, I can't hear Wakkenhut without thinking that it sounds like a shed in the woods full of 70s Playboys.

Good show. I enjoyed the documentary very much. I generally don't watch that stuff but I made an exception in this case because 30 years ago my brother used to ramble on and on about all this kind of stuff and I wanted to find out what he was talking about. It all makes sense now.

listened to 3 hours of these guys rambling on trueanon across two episodes and came away with zero idea wtf any of it was about. this is a much better overview of the story

@jamescoll130

4 ай бұрын

These guys are doing the rounds and trueanon was fucking horrible...even if a joke a minute I'm passing on this. Rather listen to Norm Finklestein.

@ultravioletiris6241

4 ай бұрын

Weird to see this story become relatively mainstream after conspiracy people have talked about it and written books about it for YEARS lol

@jaystephens2759

4 ай бұрын

Both channels are run by assets but True Anon is targeted at drug-brained Troubled Teens and Chapo is for more normie pilled would-be Marxists

@jugo1944

4 ай бұрын

That chicks vocal fry takes up a lot of time

@RHCPpleasestandup

4 ай бұрын

Weird cause I still don't know what this is about

You ARE are part of the story. I LOVE THIS. WOW.

Star Wars, Inslaw, Project Orion, Green Eyes, are all closely tied to this

@eamonnkeane8214

4 ай бұрын

We didn't start the fire

I know who the black military guy is who left the medal on his casket is. He’s retired but still has a linked in page and a Facebook page no joke

@ViviVr777

4 ай бұрын

What's his name

@rosaluxemburg1670

4 ай бұрын

@@ViviVr777 have you ever heard of the legend…of Darth Plaguis The Wise?…he was the Dark Lord of the Sith…

For all his faults I feel like Alex jones could have explained this convoluted conspiracy theory in ten minutes in a much more coherent and comprehensible fashion while also finding some way to insert Oprah or fish hybrids into it.

i didn't know about this danny casolero case before this episode tho i watched the whole series and really liked it but was there a reason people should dismiss ANYTHING mr. micheal riconosciuto alleges against the alphabet agencies or his involvement in the deepstate apparatus? poor guy had the blackops claws on him since he was born! there should be a whole docu series on this man alone he's the most interesting character in all this because he's a genius and doesn't look like he would hurt a fly!!

@Linneas18

4 ай бұрын

👏

"Hansen & TREATS"???!!?? Ok it's official Matt is back and trolling us from his hospital bed.

I can't goddamn find a video of the Chapo guys (and a woman was with them) talking about the Purge movies, specifically the first purge 2018, they basically review the movie and it's awesome and now I don't know where it went

@Vladimirwlr1234

4 ай бұрын

Apparently it's vanished. Look for Black Wolf Feed, might be able to get it there.

@Vesta_the_Lesser

4 ай бұрын

@@Vladimirwlr1234 thank you

@marcusianparrish

4 ай бұрын

Episode 233 - The Purges. It appears to only be available to the Greys.

@BNardolilli

3 ай бұрын

it was purged

Corbett report was on this a long time ago...

@twatts1523

3 ай бұрын

Yes, everyone should look into James Corbett’s work, as well as Whitney Webb’s.

9:11 you're welcome

@Mannydamon

4 ай бұрын

Never forget 9:11

Man this one just washed over me. If you told me it was a satire I wouldn't be at all surprised.

@joshuamarx8209

4 ай бұрын

The government ripped off a cp developer. Some nerd journalist actually did his job researching and of course stumbled upon yet another Cold War era CIA/Mafia Operation...

Should just watch the docu-series

Loved this documentary, really dig these guys vibes but something about how they talk about certain people and events bugs the shit out of me. Like when they're talking about John Philip Nichols going to set up the casino and tobacco store on the reservation ( I know the way they set it up in the doc is to let his son inform his Dad's motives, which is a WEIRD fucking choice ,imo, narratively if we're actually supposed to think these people are bad) but then, to just be like "Yeah this guy John Philip Nichols believed that reservations were soveign states maaaaaan and he just like went out there and was like "Hey guys, you guys are cool and deserve to make some money." It's like what the fuck? Yeah, that was the way he MANIPULATED the Tribesmen into giving him easier access to that land to do whatever the fuck he was actually there for lol I seriously doubt someone that psychopathic gave two fucks about enriching Native Americans. And then to be like "yea well he did actually kind of set out to do what he originally wanted" what the actual fuck? lmaooo it's purely incidental and had nothing to fucking do with that CIA sick fuck. I know this is OBVIOUS but the documentary doesn't exactly point that out, which is just bizarre to me. His son looks like a good guy but jesus christ dude your dad was a true fucking monster. "like this story is just soo fascinating and complex and sooo many different angles" idk just me?

@Hodapp

3 ай бұрын

Sins of the father I guess

@EdwardAppleby-xk1yq

3 ай бұрын

@@Hodapp I was talking about the makers of the Documentary.

33:02

The most limited hangout Chapo has ever presented.

The fact that these guys based their investigation off Kenn Thomas’ archives and didn’t once mention his name in the entire thing is almost unforgivable

WOW SUCH IMPORTANT WORK!!! My step father murdered a man that beat up his sister and did 20 years. There was a man that raped and murdered an 8 yr old ……all less time than Micheal. Extremely important work. Seriously. Micheal said he had nothing to do with drugs because he was making it for the gov. Plausible deniability.

7:15

Is this really all over 6.8M dollars? Why wouldn't the US gov just pay that to keep this quiet? This doesn't make any sense

@jabrokneetoeknee6448

4 ай бұрын

No, it’s about who owned the right to license the software. The government basically stole it from the guy who designed it and handed it to a company owned by one of Reagan’s cronies, who then proceeded to sell it to other countries’ intelligence services all over the world. The documentary explains that the new company who was given the rights to the software altered its code to allow US intelligence agencies to gather information on these other countries that bought it. That was the true value of the software… which is worth far more than 6 mill

@Luminousreign

4 ай бұрын

It is a conspiracy documentary lol, not sure it has to make sense. But, yeah, not doing themselves any favors trying to explain something pretty incoherent. Going to watch the doc because I am curious if the format masks at all or if it is just unhinged so it is good advertising in that sense.

@Luminousreign

4 ай бұрын

@@jabrokneetoeknee6448they could have payed to keep it quiet and still done that. The person with claims to original ownership isn’t asking for a cut of their illicit business, he just wants payment for what they stole.

@jabrokneetoeknee6448

4 ай бұрын

@@Luminousreign But that would entail the government acknowledging they stole the software. Yeah, they could have paid out the six million, but whether or not they do is pretty incidental. Avoiding paying the money isn’t the motivation for the cover up, it’s more about the corruption and spying on our allies part

@Luminousreign

4 ай бұрын

@@jabrokneetoeknee6448 nah dude they could have just payed to cover it up. That isn’t how settlements work. You give the guy enough money to be happy and just continue going about your day. It isn’t an admission of anything, and you can even legally make it really hard for people to find out you even settled.

Missed opportunity to drop lyrics from NOFXs cover of Vincent

Well I love ese films

wackin hut corporation

Never heard of this. Decided to give it a try. Ten minutes in I am bored as shit.

@lamer6767

4 ай бұрын

enjoy your mental health

WHO WAS IN PARIS?? WHO????!!! TELL ME!!!!!!!!

@berdyderg900

4 ай бұрын

Emily

@joshuamarx8209

4 ай бұрын

Your Mom.

@Mannydamon

4 ай бұрын

Kanye

@klof4276

4 ай бұрын

@@berdyderg900 YOU ARE CULTURALLY APPROPRIATING???!!!

it’s not a bonus. it’s an episode of a podcast

All I got from the doc and these guys is they won't believe Michael because he is "fat" and unconventional looking and probably on the autism spectrum. They have repeated time and time again that it was so shocking that he was there with important people!! Like this guy is a genius and they needed him for those jobs, how is that even shocking. It is so incredibly frustrating how they can't hear themselves be so biased against someone they don't deem good looking! He has been lucid and sane and they keep calling him crazy just because his hair looks messy and he isn't fit. Just because you don't have the capacity to imagine something, doesn't mean it didn't happen. They should know better!

@Linneas18

4 ай бұрын

👏👏👏

@QueefMcGeesHouse

4 ай бұрын

Are you trolling?

@monsterhunterplayer2391

4 ай бұрын

100% agreed! i think the chapos and docu producers did mr. riconosciuto a disservice in any way disparaging his character. this guy's genius is what the entire global hegemony hinges on and what reward does he get for wanting to do the MORAL thing to break free from the deepstate? poor man gets locked up for half his life!! mr. riconosciuto has so much more to tell!!

@Banned_Name3

3 ай бұрын

No they are reserved with Michael because he does in fact tell lies, like the tape. you just weren't shown all his lies. They also explained it's how intelligence agents are taught how to behave, the lies are meant to discredit their truths. Their character is supposed to be questionable. The series wouldn't look very good if it showed all the condescending parts now would it?

@jah5594

3 ай бұрын

Riconosciuto has more than autism. Mf screaming n shit in the car

i get high, but i’m gay. are they hiring?

@howwitty

4 ай бұрын

Incredible story. What was the title of the Netflix series?

@ultravioletiris6241

4 ай бұрын

Sounds more like an-artist-formerly-known-as-Cumtown tbh

These guys really shouldn’t be making the rounds like this. The overexposure triggers bs alarms that a documentary wouldn’t. You’ve got one guy chiming in with unsubstantiated conspiracy tangents and the other guy trying to stick to more substantial claims admitting that a lot of these guys are just always there and they are just interpreting the tea leaves. Unhinged conspiracy fare.

@ultravioletiris6241

4 ай бұрын

I was surprised that all these “mainstream” folks are covering this story so heavily. I first encountered this story while studying conspiracy culture and online misinformation, so yea the backbone of the story along with its tangents are all pretty “out there”.

@joshuamarx8209

4 ай бұрын

Yeah the problem for you is that we're talking about institutions that exist to do things like this and get away with it. Probably not gonna be a whole lot of incontrovertible evidence.

@MrJohndoakes

4 ай бұрын

I first heard about the Casolaro murder and Octopus YEARS ago thanks to "The Fortean Times." All of the parapolitical violence of the 1950s/1960s/1970s/1980s has lead to many, many books.

@WhatdidtheCountessdo

4 ай бұрын

@@ultravioletiris6241 The out there aspects of allegations regarding Inslaw were that Robert Maxwell had given modded Promis to the Israeli's along with the Arms for the Iran bit of Iran/Contra and that "the enterprise" drug network was working with the Reagan Administration, not against them. Both of those are considered part of the official historical record of the Iran/Contra scandal, now. We know the U.S. did sell Promis to its five eyes partners and it did have a backdoor, so question Danny Caselero's alleged story or suicide- but Alvarez was murdered and I would guess a few more people on this list were also: Larry Guerin - Was killed in Feb. 1987 while investigating the Inslaw case. Alan Standorf - Electronic Intelligence employee for the National Security Agency was a source of information to Danny Casalaro who was investigating Inslaw and BCCI. His body was found in the backseat of his car at Wash. National Airport on Jan 31, 1991.. Dennis Eisman - Attorney involved in the Inslaw case. Found shot to death on April 5, 1991. Ian Spiro - Held supporting documentation for grand jury proceedings on the Inslaw case. His wife and 3 children were found murdered on Nov 1, 1992 in their home with gunshot wounds to the head. Ian's body was found several days later in a parked car on the Borego Desert. Death was determined to be ingestion of cyanide. FBI report indicated that Ian had murdered his family and committed suicide. John Crawford - Attorney with information on Inslaw. Died from a heart attack in Tacoma in April 1993. Paul Wilcher - Investigator and attorney was found dead in Wash. DC on July 23, 1993. Shortly before his death he had sent a 105 page letter to Atty. General Janet Reno releasing information on CIA secret operations.

@charlesandrews2360

3 ай бұрын

​@@ultravioletiris6241 Conspiracy culture? Ha Ha Ha! WTF is that? There's no such thing.

Matt needs to come back. These guests suck.

@phunkracy

4 ай бұрын

They are fine, its true that its a good Matt ep material. But Matt will return when he feels like it.

@mortinshart

4 ай бұрын

Oh really? Great, I'm sure Matt will feel compelled to rush his recovery process and spend a little less time with his family in order to be back in your good graces.

@ShortStackedgoblin

4 ай бұрын

@@mortinshartrelax dude…: it’s really not that serious.

@c.andrew3944

4 ай бұрын

The reality is the guests are fine it's just Matt has (and gives) the best brain.

Whateven is this? Is this a true crime pod now?

@jaystephens2759

4 ай бұрын

They also interviewed Nick Bryant. Understanding CIA behavior is essential to surviving as an avid leftist in America

@cadene5498

4 ай бұрын

@@jaystephens2759relax

@ShortStackedgoblin

4 ай бұрын

@@jaystephens2759this is why I don’t consider myself a leftist. Guys are so self indulgent.

@busykeys7444

4 ай бұрын

@@jaystephens2759 lol truly delusional

@reedraikes7471

4 ай бұрын

@@ShortStackedgoblinwhat do you consider yourself then? Your politics have a label regardless of what you identify as

Very poor interview. 10 minutes and the interviewer is only just beginning to extract some basic facts. Nothing linear, no attempt to tell the story for the benefit of the listener. More a rambling conversation, in other words a waste of time. And with the guys who made the documentary yet. I'll find out more about this elsewhere.