BOLTR: Milwaukee High Demand 9.0 Red Lithium. FREEZE TEST and REPAIR!

Автокөліктер мен көлік құралдары

What's inside a Milwaukee 9.0 Battery? How does it compare to the DeWalt 60V Li-ion Tools? It's got beefier LG cells and a HEFTY price tag. I accidentally damage it, but manage to recover the blinking red LED-o-DEATH. I test it at 0F, -20C and it doesn't work well, despite marketing claims to the contrary. BUT it has more capacity than the DeWalt. Ruler/Flashlight www.etsy.com/ca/listing/46420...
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  • @chrisdaniels4674
    @chrisdaniels46744 жыл бұрын

    i’m jealous. i have a 5 amp milwaukee and i’m im insecure. i’m gonna go raise my truck another 2 inches.

  • @Xirrious

    @Xirrious

    Жыл бұрын

    Just cut the muffler off you'll be good.

  • @schelsullivan
    @schelsullivan7 жыл бұрын

    The tool break downs are cool, but your comedic delivery is priceless!

  • @coreymcc

    @coreymcc

    5 жыл бұрын

    I couldn't agree more!

  • @kevinmonzel

    @kevinmonzel

    5 жыл бұрын

    Disagree. Videos could be just as informational without swearing, and about half the length if he cut to the chase instead of cracking lame jokes, burning resistors, and generally being a buffoon. There's no doubt he's knowledgeable, and the breakdowns are good like you said, but the "comedic" delivery misses the mark and is a waste of time imo.

  • @m1stertim

    @m1stertim

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@kevinmonzel I watch for the buffoonery

  • @bgateb

    @bgateb

    5 жыл бұрын

    this

  • @firebladex8586

    @firebladex8586

    5 жыл бұрын

    the comedy would be fine without all the vulgarity IMO

  • @Nixk490
    @Nixk4907 жыл бұрын

    I used to work in a remanufacturing facility that had some products with lithium-ion batteries. The main reason we absolutely did not ship them at full capacity was for safety. Batteries are more likely to fail at full causing massive warehouse loses.

  • @xcvsdxvsx
    @xcvsdxvsx7 жыл бұрын

    "Thats on account of the medication im on... thunk". Oh my god. I almost died. This channel is so great is so many ways. Not just the information which is great, but the presentation. This might be the best channel on youtube.

  • @kylefarris4686

    @kylefarris4686

    7 жыл бұрын

    That was flat out funny!

  • @slendy9600

    @slendy9600

    7 жыл бұрын

    xcvsdxvsx the best part is hes Canadian so its covered by their healthcare system xD

  • @snap-off5383

    @snap-off5383

    5 жыл бұрын

    By far, to me, AvE is the gem of youtube.

  • @GriffinBean

    @GriffinBean

    5 жыл бұрын

    Same

  • @spencerwalker8314

    @spencerwalker8314

    4 жыл бұрын

    9:06

  • @joshua_lee732
    @joshua_lee7325 жыл бұрын

    FR40 is fire resistance to 40C TPV is a rubber compound. Source: I work in Injection Molding (not an engineer, just a setup tech)

  • @abadran8174

    @abadran8174

    5 жыл бұрын

    do you mean 400c?

  • @joshl90

    @joshl90

    4 жыл бұрын

    40C? That’s 104 degrees F. I think you mean 400

  • @EnnTomi1

    @EnnTomi1

    3 жыл бұрын

    haha 40c

  • @robertrishel3685
    @robertrishel36854 жыл бұрын

    Again...my amazement, amusement and absolute merriment at AVE’s use of language. The fact that this guy can fluently roll on as only he does....it’s a kind of evil genius.

  • @thelic4171
    @thelic41717 жыл бұрын

    Those definitely appear to be balanced. I see 5 banks of 3 cells each, notice how the plates on the side are not symmetrical. I suspect that the "Red Lithium" is all in that PCB and how its programmed and wired and has nothing to do with the cells themselves. The rental place here (Northern BC) rents out Makita and Bosch electric hand tools, have never seen a Dewalt, Milwaukee, or cheaper brands.

  • @Hobby_Electric
    @Hobby_Electric4 жыл бұрын

    14:00 it is Balanced ! Look at the big metal connectors to the Circuit board... These are the balance connections.

  • @codycarmack9482

    @codycarmack9482

    4 жыл бұрын

    I was saying the say thing. This guy is very intelligent and has a great sense of humor but no one person knows everything. Even the smartest ppl miss the most obvious things.

  • @EnnTomi1

    @EnnTomi1

    3 жыл бұрын

    yeah i was wondering, individual lead from each cell won't work, as some of them are parallel to each other right?

  • @TheBrewjo
    @TheBrewjo7 жыл бұрын

    beer comes in six packs, hours are in six ten minute lots, I have a unified theory of beer-tivity...

  • @brewcityboatclub8299

    @brewcityboatclub8299

    4 жыл бұрын

    Man I got the Scottish curse but even I can tell ya you're getting at alcohol poisoning right there

  • @kcuhc84

    @kcuhc84

    4 жыл бұрын

    For some, beer comes in sick-sees also

  • @andiarrohnds5163
    @andiarrohnds51637 жыл бұрын

    u are the best internet dad ever ;_;

  • @DemonOfFury

    @DemonOfFury

    3 жыл бұрын

    😂

  • @cavelvlan25

    @cavelvlan25

    3 жыл бұрын

    Seriously though if every young boy had a father like you this world would be a much better place way less snowflakes

  • @andiarrohnds5163

    @andiarrohnds5163

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@cavelvlan25 woah

  • @a91bh85
    @a91bh857 жыл бұрын

    I couldn't figure out how to message you, so I will just leave a comment. I want to thank you and all the hard work you put into making these videos. (Drinking can be hard..... sometimes.) The main reason though, you have encouraged me through you videos to be more creative in my own shop. I've been wrenching "professionally" for 7 years now, a lot longer if you could my childhood, and I've always leaned toward the "the book says this" method. I've gotten creative when I've needed to, but watching your vijeos has brought about a different side of creation that I never explored before. Thank you and keep the great videos coming.

  • @johncarder819
    @johncarder8197 жыл бұрын

    The plaintive wail "That's my favorite lead."

  • @maccartier7287
    @maccartier72877 жыл бұрын

    FR(40), according to HP's manual of plastic markings, is Flame Retardant with the 40 meaning "Halogen-free organic phosphorus compounds"

  • @maccartier7287

    @maccartier7287

    7 жыл бұрын

    +AvE Yeah, here it is. It's a pretty handy reference www.hp.com/hpinfo/globalcitizenship/environment/pdf/plasticmarkspec.pdf

  • @MichelPASTOR

    @MichelPASTOR

    7 жыл бұрын

    Handy indeed. Thank you.

  • @tmdcbass

    @tmdcbass

    7 жыл бұрын

    Really cool, thanks for sharing.

  • @VictorIndiaDeltaAlfa

    @VictorIndiaDeltaAlfa

    7 жыл бұрын

    Much appreciated!

  • @nobodyuknow2490

    @nobodyuknow2490

    6 жыл бұрын

    It's good to know that there is a standard of measurement for Flaming Retards... however 40 flaming retards in one location is far too many for my liking.

  • @drink__more__water
    @drink__more__water7 жыл бұрын

    "Works in the cold... we can test that." Ohhhhh yeah. Continue please.

  • @Prosecute-fauci
    @Prosecute-fauci7 жыл бұрын

    if you guys like AvE, you would really enjoy This Old Tony. he runs a machining channel in the same format as AvE. he is worth a view, that's all I'm saying. his humor is right up there with AvE. first class, both of them

  • @alexbarnett8541

    @alexbarnett8541

    5 жыл бұрын

    This channel is like an R rated this old Tony. Both have good jokes.

  • @kevinfetner7983

    @kevinfetner7983

    4 жыл бұрын

    Old Tony is if you have mixed company viewing and you don't want to embarrass yourself. AvE is balls to the wall humor with a lot of chooch. No comparison; it's like church porn versus hardcore porn.

  • @mikepettit1

    @mikepettit1

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@alexbarnett8541 I enjoy you videos non stop laughs and good tech skill I'll vote for if you run for president life is just a adventure thanks for the enjoyment and still very knowledgeable keep up the good videos. Lamo you would fit in with the guys I work with in Florida. Take care and keep on keeping on.

  • @Gen3Benz
    @Gen3Benz5 жыл бұрын

    18:29 "That's my favorite lead!" lol, subbed

  • @jamesfair9751

    @jamesfair9751

    4 жыл бұрын

    In all fairness that is a very nice fluke alligator clip lead. A set of them cost around $40 US also my favorite leads lol

  • @AmericanLocomotive1
    @AmericanLocomotive17 жыл бұрын

    The pack is balanced, you can see the metal tabs going to the controller board on the battery. Since the cells are in parallel, you only need to balance between the 5 sets of 3 cells.

  • @jpegjake

    @jpegjake

    3 жыл бұрын

    3 sets of 5 cells i assume you meant

  • @wildness01

    @wildness01

    3 жыл бұрын

    No he meant what he said. 3p5s pack, which means Milwaukee paralleled 3cells into 1 and then series wired them. AsOpposed to 5s3p which would mean they series wired first and then paralleled which would require a separate balance lead for every cell.

  • @gamerpaddy
    @gamerpaddy7 жыл бұрын

    they are balanced, thats what the metal strips going to the pcb is doing.

  • @mccarterjg

    @mccarterjg

    7 жыл бұрын

    the battery contacts are at either and opposite end at the fuse and top right plate that's why those traces are so much thicker, the metal traces from each end plate in the mid section are balance connection to the pcb, just because they aren't wires don't make them not balancing traces

  • @thephantom1492

    @thephantom1492

    7 жыл бұрын

    there is two size of metal strips, one is about 1/4" wide, those are the balancing 'wires', and a like 1" at the end, those are the power 'wires'.

  • @jimmasterson7822

    @jimmasterson7822

    7 жыл бұрын

    thank you

  • @alpeppone

    @alpeppone

    7 жыл бұрын

    The paralelled batteries are essentially one big cell. So the batteries within this cell balance themselves (parallel -> same voltage). You only have to balance the serialised packs, that is what the metal strips are for.

  • @hgbugalou

    @hgbugalou

    7 жыл бұрын

    I am thinking you do not know how electrocity works.

  • @xtraCreamcheese
    @xtraCreamcheese5 жыл бұрын

    First video I have stumbled upon of this channel, and I have to say, how informative, and awesome you made this video. You my friend, have earned a new subscriber, I like your style!

  • @alfiemcspitfire5323
    @alfiemcspitfire53237 жыл бұрын

    My wife doesn't understand why I watch this channel so much. Neither do I. But I do and I love it. You remind me of my weird Irish uncle. He's super-smart and muddles up all his phrases too.

  • @TheOobrum
    @TheOobrum7 жыл бұрын

    from some reason I wanna buy you a beer and hear your life story, you've taught me many things. thanks for the content

  • @ShopTalks
    @ShopTalks7 жыл бұрын

    whoa i never thought of the Rental Store idea. thats genius.

  • @BogdanWeiss
    @BogdanWeiss4 жыл бұрын

    half charged Li-ion batteries must weigh less to transport than fully charged ( fewer electrons to ship... ) :-)

  • @Big_Red_Dork

    @Big_Red_Dork

    4 жыл бұрын

    Actually true. Just such an inconsequential amount of extra mass that you'd never notice it. Like, a fully charged vs. empty Tesla Model S battery pack is something like a grain of sand in weight difference

  • @HN-gj2iq

    @HN-gj2iq

    3 жыл бұрын

    Actually to increase shelf life the manufacturer of cells ships it to battery manufacturer in that range.

  • @choochbrigadier
    @choochbrigadier7 жыл бұрын

    "to know something you gotta learn it" thanks for clearin that up

  • @terminashunator
    @terminashunator7 жыл бұрын

    Loved the video Mr. Bumblefuck, but I do have one thing to mention. That PCB board in the battery pack is the balance board and protection. The nickel strips going from the parallel groups is the balance leads, the solid strips can potentially carry more current than dinky wires, and is relatively more robust.

  • @bearded4glory809

    @bearded4glory809

    7 жыл бұрын

    Yep I agree. There is no need for those to be connected to the PCB otherwise. In the case that there was no balancing the only strips connected would be the two singles on opposite ends.

  • @khronscave

    @khronscave

    6 жыл бұрын

    For some reason, perhaps AvE was expecting one balance line *per cell* , as opposed to one balance line per pack-of-three-parallel-cells?

  • @ImprovisedExpletiveDevice

    @ImprovisedExpletiveDevice

    6 жыл бұрын

    I think each cell needs to be balanced individually for them to be maintained optimally. This approach appears to be a cost-saving measure.

  • @GriffinBean

    @GriffinBean

    5 жыл бұрын

    I believe these LG cells also have a small internal circuit to prevent over charging and over discharging.

  • @josebarrientos7518

    @josebarrientos7518

    5 жыл бұрын

    He has Makita vision.

  • @danz409
    @danz4097 жыл бұрын

    learning is why i watch your videos! keep up the good work!

  • @df2dot
    @df2dot7 жыл бұрын

    you are a national treasure sir

  • @DielectricVideos
    @DielectricVideos7 жыл бұрын

    Awesome video! I would recommend being a bit careful with that battery after deep-discharging it. One time I accidentally discharged a lithium polymer pack to ~2 volts/cell, and it recovered to full voltage/capacity just fine, but after about two weeks it had puffed up like a balloon. That's not to say your battery isn't still good, but just be sure to keep an eye on it for signs of overheating/gas venting.

  • @BeingInTheMessiah
    @BeingInTheMessiah7 жыл бұрын

    I work at a family owned rental house in upstate NY. We only rent corded power tools because they cost the same or less and last longer :)

  • @KrazeeCain
    @KrazeeCain7 жыл бұрын

    $250. $250. $250. ...Isn't extortion illegal?!

  • @K-Dawgg420

    @K-Dawgg420

    7 жыл бұрын

    KrazeeCain those lithium cells are about 10 dollars each at retail, so it's not all that bad.

  • @tacticalcustard5488

    @tacticalcustard5488

    7 жыл бұрын

    +AnAngryMudkip bullshit the average guy can get 18650s for like 5$ apiece and you know Milwaukee pays way less than that when buying them in bulk

  • @1Howdy1

    @1Howdy1

    7 жыл бұрын

    My internal bargain meter is flickering, but I'm too tired to think about - I just know you shouldn't look at it this way.

  • @K-Dawgg420

    @K-Dawgg420

    7 жыл бұрын

    Tactical Custard cheap ones, yeah. not these high end 3000 mah cells. You'll be lucky to get them under 9 dollars at retail. Obviously bulk buying is cheaper...

  • @tacticalcustard5488

    @tacticalcustard5488

    7 жыл бұрын

    Milwaukee doesn't buy retail they just know they can get away with ripping you off worse than a high school weed dealer

  • @Smirnoff44
    @Smirnoff447 жыл бұрын

    Another hilarious instalment from AvE I just watch for laughs absolutely brilliant, plus he knows a crap load of information very clever guy indeed great channel.

  • @critical_unknown
    @critical_unknown7 жыл бұрын

    Your quote on learning was gold... thumbs up

  • @willyhoogs
    @willyhoogs7 жыл бұрын

    It did have balanced charging. Not sure how you missed it. Each set of 3 in parallel were tied into the red board.

  • @animefreak5757

    @animefreak5757

    7 жыл бұрын

    so..partially balanced? normally speaking balanced charging means each CELL is capable of being charged independent of others when needed. With well matched cells it's less needed, but even then being balance charged will extend thier life

  • @peggus2

    @peggus2

    7 жыл бұрын

    animefreak5757 they're in parallel. You can't balance each cell when they are paralleled up since they have to be at the same voltage.

  • @mccarterjg

    @mccarterjg

    7 жыл бұрын

    just like the dewalt 20 v they only built to balance charge so many cells in a pack and the terminal limit design is set, when they double or triple the capacity they try and have matched cells tied in parallel and it's a cross yer fingers that they stay equal through a life time. when they triple the amount of cells they don't want to alienate the launch chargers or tools for the new 20v so if they wanted they could have 3 separate 20v packs with 3 times the balance wires going to a battery mounted pcb to switch the balancing throughout and send a mock balance voltage to the charger to let it know things are hunky dory definitely expensive over matching cells to tie together the dealt 20-18v adapter cost as much because not all 18v tools have voltage protection let alone correct for the 20v or thermo protection

  • @parraandy97

    @parraandy97

    7 жыл бұрын

    stefantrethan if there's 3 parallel branches of 5 batteries in series per branch, one of those 5 batteries in each branch can easily take up the whole voltage of the branch if it's not properly matched leading to failure of the battery if not balanced

  • @kann0r673

    @kann0r673

    7 жыл бұрын

    Might want to read up on Kirchhoff's laws again.

  • @mattmoreira210
    @mattmoreira2107 жыл бұрын

    No need for balancing circuitry when you have paralleled cells. The voltage is already the same across them. You only need balancing between the adjacent groups of paralleled cells, and AFAIK that kind of protection is already built into the pack.

  • @mistyful999
    @mistyful9997 жыл бұрын

    Your videos are brilliant, but your commentary is priceless. Love the channel, keep the uploads coming

  • @PetitCorpsSalade
    @PetitCorpsSalade4 жыл бұрын

    "Bears are looking for their last meal, and I don't intend to be it" Man, you're just freaking hilarious

  • @BarnyardEngineering
    @BarnyardEngineering7 жыл бұрын

    Take a closer look at the top of the pack. Those traces running across the top from the side plates are the balance lines I think.

  • @charlesboston1
    @charlesboston17 жыл бұрын

    do you get your medical to cover the cost of your doctor prescribed beer ?

  • @crashandburnbirner

    @crashandburnbirner

    7 жыл бұрын

    lol

  • @NoMusiciansInMusicAnymore

    @NoMusiciansInMusicAnymore

    7 жыл бұрын

    Charles Boston I'm still looking into claiming it on tax

  • @2CabrasLocas
    @2CabrasLocas5 жыл бұрын

    Your description of Tech. Service is ON SPOT!

  • @andersonadrian69
    @andersonadrian693 жыл бұрын

    "That was my favorite lead!!" Lolol that hit home man

  • @Repter75
    @Repter757 жыл бұрын

    Wait, but there ARE balance leads... Notice how her "petticoat skirt" connects to the terminals of the internal cells and how they lead up into the circuit board. It doesn't need as many wires/connections as the 60V battery on the account of the thing wiring 3 cells in parallel permanently (to get more Ah at 20V).

  • @shawnd567

    @shawnd567

    4 жыл бұрын

    Precisely.

  • @brettwatty101
    @brettwatty1015 жыл бұрын

    Another reason they don't always come fully charged, is that there is many potential joules of energy stored in those cells. So it can mitigates (lowers) the risk of fire and explosion in transport and storage.

  • @robertcasey3528

    @robertcasey3528

    2 жыл бұрын

    Risk of fire is exactly why batteries do not come fully charged. You Sir are correct

  • @mindtouchone
    @mindtouchone4 жыл бұрын

    Not only are you a genius, and an ultimate "detail man" you are a world class comic. I watch your videos and laugh. I've never heard anybody come up with your descriptions and comments - not even close!

  • @mJlReplicanT001
    @mJlReplicanT001 Жыл бұрын

    Always been a huge fan of the “Olfa” knife. Splicing conveyor belts and just awesome knives all round. When I first seen this and saw that one you have, I got one on eBay imported to the great land “down under” from the US of A. Paid WAAAY to much…but super happy I have one of my own. Fk yes! Thanking you 😁

  • @williamdegnan4718
    @williamdegnan47184 жыл бұрын

    So, the mica is there to prevent schist stains? (3rd, in a series of rock jokes.)

  • @chrisepps6902

    @chrisepps6902

    3 жыл бұрын

    Epic under rated show....the cast is stellar

  • @maccartier7287
    @maccartier72877 жыл бұрын

    Last time I was this early she put her shirt back on and left

  • @honestinsincerity2270
    @honestinsincerity22705 жыл бұрын

    Dude 1 million subs by the end of the month I predict! Also please tear down the newer 12Ah battery. I really wanna see the 21700 cells model numbers and I can't bring myself to crack mine open

  • @phbrinsden
    @phbrinsden4 жыл бұрын

    The battery is fully balanced for charging by the battery management board. It also protects the battery against over discharge.

  • @hell_hunt
    @hell_hunt7 жыл бұрын

    Ahh man, I love your jokes and dark humour

  • @marshaul
    @marshaul7 жыл бұрын

    If it came 90% charged, shouldn't we assume it left the factory fully-charged, and the difference is due to self-discharge?

  • @kuhrd
    @kuhrd7 жыл бұрын

    The balance charging was quite obvious here but instead of jacketed wires they just ran tabbing wire back to the PCB. In actuality, this is a far more common and robust way to build battery packs since the tabbing wire is very thin and it is easy enough to insulate it with Kapton tape if necessary. Remember you only need to balance in between each series set of batteries so since this pack is 5S3P the 3 cells in parallel all share a common connection with the next 3 cells in the series so a total of 6 connections are needed for complete balancing of this pack and of those 6, 2 are the most positive and most negative terminals in the string so only 4 additional tabbing wires needed for full pack balancing.

  • @KIAdarktide
    @KIAdarktide5 жыл бұрын

    Bud i love your videos, may be the best commentary ive ever listen too!

  • @zaprodk
    @zaprodk7 жыл бұрын

    No balancing? What do you call the connection from all the "connection-plates" to the circuit board? Ofc it's balanced - high-drain application needs balancing or you'll burn down the house sooner or later.

  • @MrChow
    @MrChow7 жыл бұрын

    From China when they ship out the 18650 they don't send them fully charged mostly for safety reason. From company to company they send different voltages. Normally they send them at 3.7 but I know a few company that send lower than that. If Li-ion has a problem and some reason has catastrophic failure while in transport or charging it'd be A lot worse if the battery was fully charged. Yes there something about leaving a cell fully charged storage for a long period of time idk if that's true. I believe to some level. Sorry for my english. Tired wanted to share the knowledge that I've learned about this. One of my job is battery safety at my job. TY for the video. Love this one will have to watch more of them.

  • @Adamanteus08
    @Adamanteus087 жыл бұрын

    Why do these videos make me so happy?

  • @protoserge
    @protoserge7 жыл бұрын

    Learning is an active procedure. Best line of the video!

  • @ekner
    @ekner7 жыл бұрын

    Well the power is only tapped from either end of the seriesed bunch of batterias, so the balance leads would be the little chromy shiny looking tabs of metal going straight from the paralleled up battery plate thingys to the PCB, wouldn't they? You only need one lead per paralleled group, not per cell.

  • @animefreak5757

    @animefreak5757

    7 жыл бұрын

    cells inside the paralleled group can fall out of balance as well

  • @TheJttv
    @TheJttv7 жыл бұрын

    packaging science major here that was a blister pack. More accurately a carded blister pack. A clam shell is where the paperboard is inside the plastic which has been sealed around the edges. Thank God im not in charge of designing the marketing wank tho.

  • @Roshkin

    @Roshkin

    7 жыл бұрын

    Jttv I would watch a video of you packaging something, it's harder than I thought

  • @discrepancy666

    @discrepancy666

    7 жыл бұрын

    Jttv why the 3m stuff tho?

  • @goose300183

    @goose300183

    7 жыл бұрын

    I had never thought that there were people dedicated to packaging before. But a second after reading your comment I realised that there has to be.

  • @texasdeeslinglead2401

    @texasdeeslinglead2401

    7 жыл бұрын

    yup , a need to fill even the most needed position🤔

  • @TheJttv

    @TheJttv

    7 жыл бұрын

    Sideslip the product in 9/10 packages is not supposed to take any weight. Whether it is in a box or it is in a clam-shell the the package is supposed to take the weight. If the product is supporting weight it is more prone to damage, companies and consumers alike don't like products being damaged in shipping. Thick clam shells are often used for a few different reasons but most often because they are a theft deterrent... if the product is in the clam-shell its really hard to remove it while in the store. Add an RFID tag to the package and voila it is now harder to steal. They are also used because they can display the item 'nicely' and they are very easy to produce on a thermoforming line.

  • @stevec7596
    @stevec75964 жыл бұрын

    It balances through the tabs that you can clearly see from the top. just look for 5 "things" and there you go. One on the pos, one on the neg, and 3 more. Love your videos!

  • @etyrnal
    @etyrnal4 жыл бұрын

    16:23 what kind of display is that? So bright, clear, vivid, contrasty! OLED? LCD?

  • @UndergroundBunker0459
    @UndergroundBunker04597 жыл бұрын

    You'd think the battery would have over discharge protection...

  • @OOZ662

    @OOZ662

    7 жыл бұрын

    Better to build it into the tool instead, so you can tell if Sir Bumblefuck hooked the battery up to his popcorn machine.

  • @halcyonmje

    @halcyonmje

    7 жыл бұрын

    James Taylor there is, but it looks like he defeated it by not using it in the tool. some of those other terminals on the battery signal when the battery is good to use.

  • @Alexhuntzinger

    @Alexhuntzinger

    7 жыл бұрын

    Micah Erickson not on the new lg battery's I have the same battery's for my head lamps

  • @mccarterjg

    @mccarterjg

    7 жыл бұрын

    the tools have the minimum voltage shut down built in the other terminals are for balancing charging

  • @WaltonPete

    @WaltonPete

    7 жыл бұрын

    Firstly, 18650 cells used in power tool battery packs have NO in-built protection it's on the PCB inside the case along with the cells. Secondly, the extra connectors on the battery pack besides the power terminals are not for balance charging - if a battery pack has it it is handled internally on the same PCB as mentioned above.

  • @orbnaes
    @orbnaes7 жыл бұрын

    I was just at Lowes today and they had Milwaukee tools for rent.

  • @anzicek
    @anzicek7 жыл бұрын

    One other note, it looks to me like the balancing is done through the sheet metal attachments to the circuit board on top. They don't need balancing wires to each cell since there are 3 cells in parallel and paralleled cells are by default, already balanced with each other (they share the same voltage).

  • @talestaller

    @talestaller

    Жыл бұрын

    He overlooked the bright shiny first thing that stands out 😂

  • @gerhard977
    @gerhard9777 жыл бұрын

    One of your best vijeos yet :), Greetings from Denmark.

  • @adriankelly3338
    @adriankelly33387 жыл бұрын

    I did some research on the storage voltage for Lithium Ion batteries because I've heard so many times to store them half charged and was surprised how little information there was. Panasonic says in the NCR18650B 3.4Ah datasheet "We recommend the discharged state or partially charged state SANYO shipped out for the long duration storage." and that they ship at 40% SoC. Samsung says in the INR18650-25R datasheet "If long-term storage is necessary, the cell should be stored at lower voltage within a range specified in the product specification, because storage with higher voltage may cause more loss of performance characteristics." but doesn't specify the range anywhere, and they ship at 50% ± 5% SoC, between 3.60 and 3.69V. LG recommends storing them fully charged. And as of May 2016, the FAA requires that lithium batteries not "contained in equipment or packed with equipment" to be transported on cargo only planes and "at a state of charge not exceeding 30 percent of their rated capacity." Also, they're using the thick bus bars to do the balancing.

  • @Psi105
    @Psi1057 жыл бұрын

    I dunno about the science, but in RC plane/drone circles everyone has experienced ruined batteries because they left them fully charged or fully flat for too long. It really does ruin them pretty damn fast. This is LiPo though, no idea about Lion.

  • @davidk8184
    @davidk81847 жыл бұрын

    Ave thank you for some fine entertainment. You can sometimes put a smile on my face. :)

  • @jwdupuy2
    @jwdupuy23 жыл бұрын

    I'm loving the occasional "one more time" reference. Can't beat Pinky Malinky quotes

  • @adamwalker8483
    @adamwalker84837 жыл бұрын

    Just started watching your videos. Highly entertaining. Great job.

  • @RobertSzasz
    @RobertSzasz7 жыл бұрын

    13:30 you can't unbalance paralleled cells. They are held at the same voltage by the whopping great conductor welded across all the cells. Each bank is connected to the board for balancing the 3 banks.

  • @jacobwcrosby

    @jacobwcrosby

    2 жыл бұрын

    They can and do become unbalanced, the internal resistance of cells varies from the start, and as time passes the internal resistance will change, causing further creep, meaning while one battery is drained to 40%, the other battery might be drained to 5%. When 'balancing' the cells the controller only looks for that magical 4.2v, so when the first battery reaches the peak, the other battery might only be at 30% (again, internal resistance and other effects, even the thickness of the nickel tabs act like a resistor if they aren't the same). So people claiming that balancing can neve be undone. You are incorrect.

  • @andrewradford3953

    @andrewradford3953

    2 жыл бұрын

    I wonder if the bms resistance tests the banks and bricks the battery if it fails. I've balanced a few 12ah batteries that only half charge or had a 30 second run time, and they are like new. Some were fairly new and only used intermittently(i think 12ah have an issue). Have two 4ah and a 3ah that I balanced and they are bricked. The 3ah is in pristine condition and it went from 3 bars to blinking light brick after trying to charge it. All its the 5 banks are perfectly balanced. Thinking of replacing the boards on a 3&4 for $12 each out of principle.. Picking up and fixing 12ah batteries for $100au and fixing them is bloody satisfying.

  • @ThingsWhichArentWork
    @ThingsWhichArentWork7 жыл бұрын

    The pack balancing 'wires' are formed as part of the nickel plates welded onto the cells... You can see them come up and fold over the top of the battery before they head under the PCB to make a connection.... so they are balance charging as normal.

  • @SeanBZA
    @SeanBZA7 жыл бұрын

    Metal traces leading to the PCB are the balance connections, simpler to punch them out with the rest of the sheet, and then bend with a jig. Saves a join operation during manufacture, and saves on that expensive copper wire as well.

  • @hashiramasenju4846
    @hashiramasenju48465 жыл бұрын

    Use it for ice fishing all the time. Even in below 0 F temps with no problems. I use the 9.0 Ah battery with the M18 Fuel 2704 drill with an adapter with an 8” Strikemaster Lazer auger. I can drill over 30+ holes in 24”+ of ice. I own 5 of those batteries but never go through more than two in a full days ice fishing!

  • @bstanga
    @bstanga7 жыл бұрын

    Man that is one hi priced batteria!!

  • @matt889
    @matt8895 жыл бұрын

    I do not subscribe often... I do not subscribe to much, but when I do... Its worth it! Hilarious and informative man, Subbed and Liked!

  • @sk8urbike935
    @sk8urbike9354 жыл бұрын

    Got me cracked up lol "if you wanna know something, you gotta learn it"

  • @stevebuchanan5773
    @stevebuchanan57737 жыл бұрын

    my employer supplies us with Milwaukee tools I've grown fond of them, can't tell u how many times I've used a 18v Milwaukee to jump start my work van

  • @chrisrage5836

    @chrisrage5836

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@speedslayerr the positive and negative are labeled and you can slip a wire into the slots on the battery. I work in a sign shop and I jump LED strips off mine

  • @jimmygriffiths
    @jimmygriffiths7 жыл бұрын

    My dad told me: "Life is a turd sandwich, the more bread the better."

  • @Big_AlMC

    @Big_AlMC

    3 жыл бұрын

    I come here exclusively for the life quotes to parrot to my buddies and they think I'm Sage 😂😂😂

  • @frankw8876
    @frankw88766 жыл бұрын

    My local US Home Depot had it on sale $200 for two packs including a fast charger. Didn't think much of the fast charger but the 9.0 was like wow!

  • @mitsmith9255
    @mitsmith92554 жыл бұрын

    Learning with beer.Best channel ever!

  • @tylerfj24
    @tylerfj244 жыл бұрын

    OMG please write a book with all of your sayings. the comedic deliver and joke per minute is damn near up there with pryor

  • @Awesomeman1987
    @Awesomeman19877 жыл бұрын

    just so you know, I've adopted the "son of a didly" expression to the point where people at work are calling me Flanders haha. love the vijeos

  • @diemman70
    @diemman704 жыл бұрын

    This has got to one of the funniest videos even though it’s a learning opportunity.

  • @tobiasjacobsen_dk
    @tobiasjacobsen_dk4 жыл бұрын

    I am learning so much from this

  • @GameboiX
    @GameboiX4 жыл бұрын

    Day 756, I am still stuck in that Vise.

  • @Maniwasaki

    @Maniwasaki

    4 жыл бұрын

    X-D

  • @josem1371

    @josem1371

    4 жыл бұрын

    LOL

  • @Thecrazyframer
    @Thecrazyframer5 жыл бұрын

    Millsucky makes a 12 amp hour battery now

  • @testthisfordecficiencies
    @testthisfordecficiencies3 жыл бұрын

    Rental places are usually Bosch, Makita, or Milwaukee for cordless drills and drivers. Hilti for concrete and Bostitch air tools for carpenters. Having Millwaukees with fully charged battarias has helped me in the past.

  • @andrewradford3953
    @andrewradford39532 жыл бұрын

    I've balanced a few 12ah batteries that only half charge or had a 30 second run time, and they are like new. Some were fairly new and only used intermittently(i think 12ah have an issue). Have two 4ah and a 3ah that I balanced and they are bricked. The 3ah is in pristine condition and it went from 3 bars to blinking light brick after trying to charge it. All its the 5 banks are perfectly balanced. Thinking of replacing the boards on a 3&4 for $12 each out of principle.. Picking up and fixing 12ah batteries for $100au and fixing them is bloody satisfying

  • @ps3Lover0
    @ps3Lover07 жыл бұрын

    +AvE Hey bud what is your background? Mungeecake? Cause you said "Factoria" and "Batteria" commonly said by the Spanish or Portuguese people.

  • @hugomartel8552

    @hugomartel8552

    7 жыл бұрын

    Glitchy Gamer he is canadian buddy

  • @ps3Lover0

    @ps3Lover0

    7 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, I know that. I was asking if he was anything else.

  • @WeAreGRID

    @WeAreGRID

    7 жыл бұрын

    If you havent noticed, he speaks french fluently, he also can say a few words of spanish, and german. so my bet is, a canadian rock miner that has gone one too many places in his life.

  • @douglasdtlltd
    @douglasdtlltd7 жыл бұрын

    looks higher qualtiy inside then the dewalt.

  • @dk-bw4gk
    @dk-bw4gk7 жыл бұрын

    So, what exactly is the Canuckistan conversion for h? In my home-gamer shop, h varies wildly. Anywhere from .5 to 4 beers. And then you factor in tall cans and you have to start calculating with a sundial. Of course, after the first couple h's, time become non-linear, leaving further inspection ineffective.

  • @ezrasadek7770

    @ezrasadek7770

    5 жыл бұрын

    How drunk were you?

  • @Journey2Master
    @Journey2Master5 жыл бұрын

    hahaha zero frankenstein!?! Lmao - love your presentation style. Keep up the good work from one youtuber to the next!

  • @Baerchenization
    @Baerchenization7 жыл бұрын

    EVERY manufacturer tells you the same thing on how to store batteries / at what level of charge, yet AvE knows better again.... awesome. That is true for your camera batteries, electric car batteries, 3rd party replacement batteries... Jesus Christ.

  • @Baerchenization

    @Baerchenization

    7 жыл бұрын

    Which part of "every" do you not understand? I just bought 4 extra battery backs for my Sony DSLR - it says the same thing; if you look in to how to maximise the life of electric car batteries, they say the same thing, etc, etc... you buy and abuse so many battery packs, why don't you RTFM for a change? That's my source! I actually read shit! -- I know, it's beneath you, but anyway... then I don't have to type out what you can readily learn everywhere. It's really not difficult... and so whatever you were referring to there was not "pseudo science", it was stating what everybody in the industry says anyway.You don't need Steven Hawking's signature attached to it...

  • @Baerchenization

    @Baerchenization

    7 жыл бұрын

    Why am I not convinced of your eagerness to learn? Well, because I just typed "why to store li-ion battery at 50% charge" in to Google, and if you start reading any of the links that show up even for 1-2 minutes, we would not have this discussion right now. Seeing how easy it would be, and your refusal to actually go about it, I really don't know how I can help you on this one... How about Milwaukee ship fully charged batteries because there are dudes like you that get pissed off if they unpack a shiny new toy and cannot take it to task for 5 hours because they have to charge the batteries first? And then they take to KZread and make a disgruntled, uneducated video about it, where they tell their I-don't-really-give-a-fuck audience to buy that other brand instead?! Who knows?! Who says Milwaukee is an authority on anything, especial on a component they have no business with producing, but which they source from 3rd parties themselves? I can only guess... either way, I do not see how Milwaukee doing something sub-optimally is an argument against what everybody in the battery producing industry has to say on the topic.

  • @ReverendTed

    @ReverendTed

    7 жыл бұрын

    There are a lot of things that EVERYBODY did the same way that turned out to be based largely on hear-say and groupthink. Maybe they're right and maybe he's wrong, but props to AvE for challenging the status quo when there's no good science to back up "that's just the way we've always done it".

  • @outsider344

    @outsider344

    7 жыл бұрын

    +Baerchenization Appeal to popularity. By the same logic bleeding people for illness was a great idea back when all the doctors believed it.

  • @alexhaws2377

    @alexhaws2377

    7 жыл бұрын

    +Baerchenization fuck, you are a special kind of stupid. he's not looking for opinion or blanket statements. he wants proper, scientific studies with actual data for evidence. not "do this because we make them". how do you not fall down more?

  • @draytonPW
    @draytonPW5 жыл бұрын

    It's fully charged as a courtesy since Canadians don't have electricity yet.

  • @bannablitz247
    @bannablitz2477 жыл бұрын

    Hey AvE, do you still have that Ryobi drill and impact driver you made a video mentioning in january (electric nailer)? If you do when do you think you could do a BOLTR on those. Personally I am quite interested in the impact.

  • @bagull95
    @bagull957 жыл бұрын

    Those 5 lines going up to the charge board are balance lines. note how they're welded to the battery ends, they can carry the current, they're used to balance the cells. only 5 are needed because the parallel sets are self balanced.

  • @cheater00
    @cheater007 жыл бұрын

    So was it good or was it bad cause i didn't get either

  • @cheater00

    @cheater00

    7 жыл бұрын

    gotcha. Thanks for the summary. TBH i didn't even know there were standard power tool batteries but i live in Europe so what do i know

  • @cheater00

    @cheater00

    7 жыл бұрын

    good point about load balancing, would like to know that too

  • @TheEternalHermit
    @TheEternalHermit7 жыл бұрын

    I've never been to a rental store, do they really rent out electric drills like that? Do they rent out hammers, shovels and screw drivers too?

  • @harveysmith100

    @harveysmith100

    7 жыл бұрын

    Some rental stores rent out screws. Look for a red light

  • @DrewLSsix

    @DrewLSsix

    7 жыл бұрын

    The Eternal Hermit. i think the problem with his advice is it doesnt really answer the question, the cheap faks were never looking for the best tool. they were looming for the best tool that only costs a bit more than the junk at HF or the local equivelent. rental places lend out contractor grade tools while most home gamers are unwilling to pay to play like a pro. personally i get past this by hard core bargain shopping used tools. grieving widow selling of hubbies bench grinder to feed the chillen because the insurance is dickin around about getting the check in the mail and the house is a week from foreclosure? better faken believe im hagglin her to her most desperate bottom dollar.

  • @jacksat2252

    @jacksat2252

    7 жыл бұрын

    +The Eternal Hermit: In Europe you can rent practical everything. www.boels.be/en

  • @townside_woodcraft

    @townside_woodcraft

    7 жыл бұрын

    yea, here you can rent pretty much any tool, electric, battery or manual. also you can BUY nails or screws at the rental place to use with their tools

  • @charlesangell_bulmtl
    @charlesangell_bulmtl4 жыл бұрын

    Hell, this guy tests tools I knew nothing of!!! That in itself!!!

  • @GeoIsACrazyDude
    @GeoIsACrazyDude7 жыл бұрын

    love your videos man... came for the shop.... staying for the dude.. you should put together a list of all your catchy phrases...

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