Bobcat T770 Operator Tips for Slopes and Grapple

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Carrying loads and operating on slopes can lead to roll-overs and pulling a track off. This video talks about some of my operator techniques to manage and minimize those risks.
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  • @ISXCUMMINS565
    @ISXCUMMINS5655 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the tips, I to don't like to pivot on the spot when turning but make gradual turns👍

  • @clevingerforestservicesllc1164

    @clevingerforestservicesllc1164

    5 жыл бұрын

    ISXCUMMINS 565 Yep, bad operator technique is the biggest reason tracks get pulled off the machine. Just being aware of the situation and avoiding bad maneuvers will save operators a lot of headaches. My first year I pulled the tracks off eight times, before I finally learned. Haven't lost a track for the last three years now. Knock on wood👍

  • @reesmp98

    @reesmp98

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@clevingerforestservicesllc1164 what's the biggest reason your tracks would come off? Is it when you're on a slope and your skit steer slides down it at an angle as you're trying to go up a hill? Then it slides off sideways? And to make sure they never come off you just want to go straight up and down hills, not making any angles movements with the skitsteer?

  • @reesmp98

    @reesmp98

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@clevingerforestservicesllc1164 I've been binge watching your account if you ever get to answer any questions I have I would appreciate it more than you know, thank you!!!

  • @mueckenhoeffer
    @mueckenhoeffer3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks again. Every one of your videos I've watched so far answers a dozen or more questions I have about buying a CTL. So far I'm waffling between a T590 and T770. 590 would do 95% of what I need to do, but the 770 would actually carry a forestry mulcher (assuming of course I got the forestry cab and high flow). Smooth bucket, tooth bucket and root rake grapple are definitely on the initial purchase list. Do you have an opinion on CTL backhoes?

  • @clevingerforestservicesllc1164

    @clevingerforestservicesllc1164

    3 жыл бұрын

    The Curmudgeon Glad to hear the information in my videos is helpful to you. It definitely is good to give things a lot of thought before buying equipment. To be efficient with your money, think about the exact tasks/work that you need to accomplish, then pick the machine and tools that will accomplish those tasks 100%. If you have a task that only occasionally will need to be done, I suggest renting exactly what you need then. This is more optimal use of finances. I’ve never used a back hoe attachment on my skid, so I don’t have an opinion on it. I might try one out and see what they’re capable of, though.

  • @thomasfulton5696
    @thomasfulton5696 Жыл бұрын

    I have some experience in operating tractors on slopes but I wanted to learn how to use the skid steer on an incline using a mulcher head any tips?

  • @clevingerforestservicesllc1164

    @clevingerforestservicesllc1164

    Жыл бұрын

    The maximum slope I operate on is 25 degrees. Being aware of your center-of-gravity and tipping over is important. On steeper slopes I always face down-hill since most of the weight on a skid steer in the engine in the rear, and having the mulcher on the ground in front of you will keep you stabilized from tipping forward. Anytime I’m on a slope, in any direction, I’m always aware of my center-of-gravity when I lift my boom and mulcher up in the air. This will shift the center of gravity downhill, and increases the chance of roll over. Another important tip when driving side-slope is to be aware of stumps or rocks under the machine, since as you drive forward or back, the machine tends to slide a few inches downhill, and stumps and rocks can pull a track off.

  • @galehess6676
    @galehess66765 жыл бұрын

    Summary: When crossing a slope 90 degrees sideways, a little remaining stump on a slope can pop a track off if you slide a little with your 10k# machine. Avoid pivot turns because a track can pop if you catch a solid object hiding in soil. 45 degree crossings of slopes work best, if you cannot go straight up/down slope. He considers grinding a 5 ton stump, and opts to saw it into chunks at a later time.

  • @clevingerforestservicesllc1164

    @clevingerforestservicesllc1164

    5 жыл бұрын

    Gale Hess 💯👍

  • @galehess6676
    @galehess66765 жыл бұрын

    This 5 ton stump, seems if you keep hydro temp down, could maybe grind it in a few hours.

  • @clevingerforestservicesllc1164

    @clevingerforestservicesllc1164

    5 жыл бұрын

    Gale Hess Yes, I tried mulching the giant trunk, but it was extremely hard wood. I hoped it would mulch down since that would have been the easiest solution for me.

  • @kevinbouchard7685
    @kevinbouchard76855 жыл бұрын

    What are your plans for your pastures? Do you do any livestock or hay?

  • @clevingerforestservicesllc1164

    @clevingerforestservicesllc1164

    5 жыл бұрын

    Kevin Bouchard I have two separate fields, one is 15 acres, the second is 17 acres. I am going to start building a new home on the 17 acre site beginning January 2019. I'll use 1.5 acres of that site for my homesite and lawn. I planted Kentucky 31 grass on the 15 acre field 1-1/2 years ago and it's growing fine. I will plant KY31 on the other 17 acre field in March 2019. After I get a good healthy pasture grass growing in both pastures, I plan on letting one of my neighbor's, who raise cattle and board horses, to come in and cut the hay for a leased price. I like the grass pastures for the aesthetics and to attract wildlife, but I'd also like it to generate some income and be useful for my neighbor's who raise livestock. That's my plan for it. All of this newly opened pasture had been an unproductive, undesirable forest that had been select cut logged out about 10-15 years ago before I purchased the 54 acres. My goal was to make my land productive, useful, and beautiful again. And it's more valuable too.

  • @kevinbouchard7685

    @kevinbouchard7685

    5 жыл бұрын

    Sounds great. I always like to hear how people are using their land to suit their needs. Our pastures are leased to a cattle farmer. That's alot of pasture to plant, did you do it yourself? broadcast or drilled?

  • @clevingerforestservicesllc1164

    @clevingerforestservicesllc1164

    5 жыл бұрын

    Kevin Bouchard l like seeing how other land-owners manage their property too. Property is very personal to people, and put a lot of sweat and emotion into it, and get very connected to it. After I had my land clear-cut logged, I cleaned up all of the slash, piled and burned it. I then rented a Komatsu D61EX dozer. It was a 42,000 lb machine, I believe. The ground was very uneven and had lots of washes and gullies. I got that all leveled out, and cut some Swales in. I took soil samples, and fertilized the soil. I then had our local Co-op come out with their seeder truck, and broad-seeded the Kentucky 31 grass seed. I then cultipacked it into the soil. Then nature did the rest. I just need to spray it in the next few weeks to kill off the undesirable weeds and trees for the winter. It's growing better each year.

  • @kevinbouchard7685

    @kevinbouchard7685

    5 жыл бұрын

    That sounds awesome! Thanks for sharing. I will have to go back in your videos to see if there are any of that dozer work. Sounds fun!

  • @arnoldromppai5395
    @arnoldromppai5395 Жыл бұрын

    Just wondering. I am buying a Bobcat hand control T770 on heavy duty 18" wide rubber tracks with added bolt on traction bars for better traction on ice and my steep Hills into my Pastures witch is red clay an very slippery after a rain. I have slide down them backwards in both a rubber track skid steer as well as a 10,000lb mini ex with comercal Grapple bucket. It has a solid flat bottom steel plate and low rounded cut out side an the grapple bill. As well as the heavy duty construction bucket with bolt on cutting edge. I don't know if it will dig in my hard red clay. But a tooth rock bucket no good for grading. Plus the Bobcat snow blade. It will be in my you tube videos. If I could ask you one thing that I am struggling with. I getting this grapple bucket for cleaning up my winter hay feeding area. That builds up 4 feet high an a good 60 to 70 feet around in cow shit and hay an straw mix as well as 2 large 3 sided cow calf shelter buildings. So far my dealer quote for all this is CND $1048,000 after tax. Now I don't know if you tried to move and load this this kind of stuff with your root rake grapple or not. I don't know if it would most all drop out though the big spaces between the tins or what. I'm struggling if I am going with the right style grapple bucket or not. I'm hopping with the comercal steel bottom grapple bucket will work grabbing brush an trees as good as your root rake grapple . I have seen videos of the comercal steel plate bottom grapple bucket cleaning out sheep pen bed pack on concrete floor an seems to work great on a Rubber tired tell a handler i have yet to see it used on cow bed pack or brush and trees. Seen it used with rocks good. Not seen your root rake grapple used on deep Manure bed pack. Its very wet an sloppy once you get digging into it. For years I been renting a 10,000lb mini excavator with a hydronic thumb to clean up an load the 30 tons of winter feeding area but with the power company putting a 2nd power transmision line though my property my cows calves are going to be losing there only shelter they ever had and that the big forest between my land an the open area of the Existing powered transmission line. So my whole farming operation has to be totaly over hauled from how I have run it for over 40 years. Feeding hay with my boom truck will no longer due. I have to build 2 big steel 3 sided shelters along the new leassed esment witch will have to be bedded in straw and cleaned out weekly. I will loss my back an side fencing when trees are cut as I used trees to put my fence on. So I'll be adding an 8" post hole auger pellet forks an straw bale spear to my quote yet being I have to mover 1200lb round straw bales down a long steep red clay hill. No way I can use my boom truck to do that like I do to bring 1200lb hay bale to there hay feeders witch is up top of the hill next to house an calf barns. This new power line is going to really change my farming practice that I been doing for over 35 years. Never mind the huge added costs an work. At 61 years old its a hell of a change. I did a video a wile back called my cows calves steer bull are in danger of losing there shelter

  • @clevingerforestservicesllc1164

    @clevingerforestservicesllc1164

    Жыл бұрын

    Sounds like you have a lot of work to keep up with on your farm. It sounds like the bucket grapple is what you need to clean up old hay and muck. And you can still use it to pick up brush and trees and anything else. That would definitely be more effective than using a root grapple. The tines of the root grapple are made that way to sift the dirt out of what you pick up.

  • @arnoldromppai5395

    @arnoldromppai5395

    Жыл бұрын

    @@clevingerforestservicesllc1164 thank you for the advice I was thinking the same but was unsure on being productive and you answered that. I really don't have much need of sifting dirt out as you stated with a root rake. I got the quote revised adding a 2nd bucket with bolt on teeth and a 12" auger on advice of the hydro contractor working with us land owners. Being I have to put in over 400 6" wood fence posts an 1/2 mile of 48" 3x6 feild fence an 2 12 foot gates one on the north east end an one on the south west end for hydros access for repairs an Maintenance of the line an keep atv an snowmobeiles out to keep my livestock safe from harassment. Simple 2 wire electric fence i been using for years will no longer work once all the trees are cut. It bad enough every winter the snownobeles cut my electric fence an rip out hundreds of feet of wire running the transmition line thats been there for ever now a 2nd one beside it running over my land.

  • @arnoldromppai5395

    @arnoldromppai5395

    Жыл бұрын

    @@clevingerforestservicesllc1164 i been informed by our Bobcat dealer. Bobcat is maybe a year out on supplying my t770 as they are having problems getting some parts such as the hand controls. They tried to get me to change to foot controls but that will not work for me. I feel 18 feet of a big forestry machine at work broke my back hip. I have little strength an little feeling in my legs an feet.

  • @kevincook9327
    @kevincook93275 жыл бұрын

    What rpm speed do you run the mulcher at? I have put a pressure gauge on the loftness head that I recently purchased.

  • @clevingerforestservicesllc1164

    @clevingerforestservicesllc1164

    5 жыл бұрын

    Kevin Cook Hi Kevin- I'm not sure of the actual RPM my Bobcat-Fecon mulcher spins at. The only number I remember from the operators manual is that the drum rotates at 8,450 feet per second, and the drum diameter is 20", I believe. Not sure what RPM that equates to. And I also don't know the pressure the mulcher's pressure valves are set at. I'd have to check the maintenance manual.

  • @kevincook9327

    @kevincook9327

    5 жыл бұрын

    I meant your bobcat rpm.

  • @clevingerforestservicesllc1164

    @clevingerforestservicesllc1164

    5 жыл бұрын

    Kevin Cook I run the engine RPM at 2410, which is full throttle, when mulching. This puts the hydraulic flow to the head at 37 GPM.

  • @kevincook9327

    @kevincook9327

    5 жыл бұрын

    How often do you have to balance your drum? Thanks for taking the time to help.

  • @clevingerforestservicesllc1164

    @clevingerforestservicesllc1164

    5 жыл бұрын

    Kevin Cook I've got about 2000 hours on my mulcher head, and I've never had to balance the drum. It runs perfectly fine. I've never had any hydraulic or mechanical problem with my head. I just keep it greased, and I've welded on new skid plates twice in 2000 hours, so it's been very reliable. But I also do not abuse it.

  • @ColeyCLogan
    @ColeyCLogan4 жыл бұрын

    Did have a track come off on a slop?

  • @clevingerforestservicesllc1164

    @clevingerforestservicesllc1164

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes, I've had tracks pulled off on slopes before. Mostly when working side-slope, or pivoting when there is a stump or stone between the tracks. I learned these lessons the hard way, and have learned how to operate this machine by understanding the hazardous maneuvers and situations, and avoiding them and/or minimize them.

  • @cleatrampler
    @cleatrampler5 жыл бұрын

    Tractor's great if you are pulling long distances but I never got a loader for it Why do that when you can have a skid steer, which is tougher, safer and more fun? You could never lift that kid of weight with a similar sized tractor loader ad when you try to turn your wheels dig in ad the tractor gets tippy Now a crawler loader is a whole different animal but slow and a rough ride. never had a tracked skid steer only wheels I do a lot of zero turns to avoid backing up around animals Same when working around other people too.

  • @clevingerforestservicesllc1164

    @clevingerforestservicesllc1164

    5 жыл бұрын

    cleatrampler You're right about all of that. I guess it comes down to understanding what kind of work you need to accomplish on your land, and get the right tool that will be capable of doing the majority of tasks you need to do. No one piece of equipment is the perfect solution. In my case, this tracked skidsteer is the ideal machine for me. I have a construction bucket, grapple, forestry mulcher, and a bush hog attachments for it. These capabilities take care of 95% of what I need. Anything else I need to do, I can rent a specialized attachment for that. Thanks for you comment.

  • @FishFind3000
    @FishFind30005 жыл бұрын

    That’s surprising to me that your a forestry guy and your biggest saw only has a 20” bar... gotta get a 661 for those big jobs then.

  • @clevingerforestservicesllc1164

    @clevingerforestservicesllc1164

    5 жыл бұрын

    FishFind3000 This tree was on my land that I was cleaning up this weekend. A 20" bar is all I've ever needed. For my business, I don't do chainsaw work, just 100% mulching from the comfort inside of the machine. I ended up pushing and rolling the log into a deep ravine. Problem solved.

  • @amickandamick

    @amickandamick

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@clevingerforestservicesllc1164 I second that... I tell my customer my rate is the same in or out of the machine. They can get a professional chainsaw man that is way better with a saw than I am and way cheaper!!!

  • @clevingerforestservicesllc1164

    @clevingerforestservicesllc1164

    5 жыл бұрын

    Harold Amick Exactly right, Hal. I run the big tree eater, not chainsaws.

  • @joelyman4872
    @joelyman48725 жыл бұрын

    You could've gotten that log with the grapple

  • @clevingerforestservicesllc1164

    @clevingerforestservicesllc1164

    5 жыл бұрын

    Joe Lyman I ended up rolling the log using the grapple, and pushed it into a deep ravine. I was going to try to lift it, but didn't want to risk breaking anything. Rolling it worked fine.

  • @joelyman4872

    @joelyman4872

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@clevingerforestservicesllc1164 that works also and I don't blame ya