Owner of this particular Z3M Coupé, thanks Mark and Jack for doing the excellent video! As much as I enjoy this car I just don’t fit in it well, so watch for this car on Bring A Trailer in the next few weeks, just waiting for them to finish the listing.

@ptg_st3v3oh62

3 жыл бұрын

This could've been a good car for Cars and Bids #dougshill

@jpic6098

3 жыл бұрын

Collidiscope about 6 foot, if you are a thin or thinner build this car could fit a taller person.

@macattack57

3 жыл бұрын

@Collidiscope I'm 6' 2" and I definitely don't fit in the Z3M. I can "drive" it but I definitely don't fit comfortably. I would get a Z4M. I had one of those for a year and a half and it fit me really well.

@LaxMerange

3 жыл бұрын

@Collidiscope i own the z4m that they reviewed Earlier this year. I'm 6,2, 325lbs . I'm a big boy... and I fit length wise barely in the z4m, my knees just barely miss the dash , but I have a great amount of head room. its hard getting in and out, but again I'm 325lbs. it was shocking going from any car to the size of Z4m . but if you have driven other small cars , the z4 will feel normal. smaller than toyota 86, almost identical in size as the C7 Corvette, bigger than new supra.

@LaxMerange

3 жыл бұрын

J Pic , hit me up. if you are in area, let's meet up, I'm Z4m guy, I live 20 min from SavageGeese shop...

I love that this car has no damned computer screen. This is an interior that will remain timeless.

@mauricemotors8207

3 жыл бұрын

Chad Wilson My Nissan hardbody pickup had induction noise lol it’s throttle body looked like a carb with 4 intake passages lol

@CockatooDude

3 жыл бұрын

No it won't, this interior screams late 1990's with those black plastic buttons and gratuitous plastic chrome trim pieces on the dials.

@Audidude

3 жыл бұрын

CockatooDude it screams late 90s. Ah maybe because it’s a car from the late 90s? Hilarious how people bag cars for having characteristics that are period correct. That’s a huge part of their appeal - a modern interior in a Z3? LOL!

@CockatooDude

3 жыл бұрын

@@Audidude I wasn't trying to bag the interior, I was just pointing out that it isn't timeless like the original commenter claimed.

@Audidude

3 жыл бұрын

@@CockatooDude fair comment 😊👍

The Z3 was a parts bin car (leftover interior bits from the E30 era, semi-trailing arm rear suspension, questionable plastics), it was raw, but man it was awesome.

@Fee.1

3 жыл бұрын

Z4 was the same. The z3 and the z4 both used the previous gen m3’s suspension

@Fee.1

3 жыл бұрын

Zombie Head e36, it shouldn’t be that interesting they even used the motor from it until the s54 refresh

@Fee.1

3 жыл бұрын

Zombie Head cough cough mustang

@emanon321

3 жыл бұрын

I get to drive mine all the time so for me, awesome is in the now.

One thing that modern cars have lacked for years is full instrumentation. I personally like old school aesthetics of all the round dials.

@tommynobaka

3 жыл бұрын

I agree, its tactile. Pagani does this exceptionally well along with aftermarket support with exposed linkage short shifters (ex. K Tuner), vintage style gauges, clock dials, airplane switches and the like

@brendancarlson1678

3 жыл бұрын

Dials where zero is bottom dead center.

@luke4010

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed 100%. That's why i like the 370z. Even in 2020 they keep their old school interior. Nice and simple

@fortheloveofnoise9298

3 жыл бұрын

Cars now are like how synthesizers were in the late 80s.

@joshbrock2663

3 жыл бұрын

if tesla had a 'old timer' option to replace that awful sideway TV theyd sell a lot more cars.

I love the clown shoe, this was a true driving machine.

@970357ers

3 жыл бұрын

You might say it is... Sure footed!

@amarbirtakhar4213

3 жыл бұрын

Brent Cabot how was the experience for you? I come from miata driving myself so I was always curious about the similarities between the two.

@Gchang54

3 жыл бұрын

For me it looked like a frat boy baseball cap

@machineslave3

3 жыл бұрын

Maybe to drive you off a cliff when you realize your wife left you for a guy in a miata. Haha. Jokes!

@amarbirtakhar4213

3 жыл бұрын

Gregory G haha wow.

The BMW M Coupe was my favorite car when it was new. It's still one of my favorites today. Short, low and wide with a bulldog stance. I've driven a few of them and they're a blast to drive.

This has always been one of my favorites cars, and, IMO, the coolest BMW ever made.

@joshbrock2663

3 жыл бұрын

this car was a shooting brake 20 years before shooting brakes were a thing

@_zigger_

Жыл бұрын

It looks like shit

Viper teaser at the end, can't wait

@Dowlphin

3 жыл бұрын

S2000 knifetwister in the shoppe segment. 😩

@iHaveTheDocuments

3 жыл бұрын

@@Dowlphin he's already done that car. That's his car.

@Dowlphin

3 жыл бұрын

@@iHaveTheDocuments EXACTLY! IT'S HIS, NOT MINE!

I had one 10 years ago. Took me 8 months to sell it! Lower miles, and an even lower price. Crazy to see what these are going for now.

@cmacd8879

3 жыл бұрын

Sarah Dell - Ha - you and my wife.... she had an 02 for eight years, loved it but it does beat you up on long drives. Also took almost a year to sell... we suspected it would go up in value but who wants sheds full of cars waiting for a market...

@constructionbootgazer

3 жыл бұрын

I can’t believe there are still clean examples out there.

@Hmmm313

3 жыл бұрын

I still got mine..red 62k in it..never sell...got racing cams dinan staff and active tune..i love mine...mine is around 380horse...

@sarahdell4042

3 жыл бұрын

C Macd I bought it because I loved how it looked. It was purely used for daily driver duties, along with a 98 328 at the time. Both looked near new, the 328 was a far better car to drive everyday which is why I eventually sold the M coupe. Sold the 328 not long ago, to a neighbor. He flipped it for triple the money 😡

@fortheloveofnoise9298

3 жыл бұрын

@@cmacd8879 Ide kill for sheds full of cars.

The Z3M coupe is a quirky car It is indeed one of BMW’s best cars because it’s just an awesome car to drive

@Audidude

3 жыл бұрын

One of the last raw cars BMW made. That in itself makes it special. As is the Z4MC

I’ve always liked the Z3M Coupe. I think it looks great. It’s different and bold and diminutive in its stature on the road today. Which gives it great street presence that’s different to most collector cars.

Thanks for making this free for everyone, this is top quality TV grade cinematography.

Just want to say that Jack brings something to the videos that made me start wanting to watch everything through, rather than scan through the thoughts and the driving footage. Y'all got chemistry, love the channel.

Holy crap, here I was thinking I couldn't like your content more, and you drop this. One of my grail cars. 👍

Can't believe how great it looks still after 18 years! Always wanted one of these.

Such a nicely done review of the Z3 MCoupe, yet no mention of the S54 engine added for the 2001-2002 model years. I imagine if they drove one of those, they would forget about the Z4 MCoupe.

@blauschuh

3 жыл бұрын

not sure why this review says it's a 2002 model year... all 2001/2002 had the S54.

@corythomas4427

3 жыл бұрын

Pretty sure they also said "the engine from the E36 M3" which yes, had the S52. Being that this is a 2002, it should have the S54 from the E46 M3.

@Audidude

3 жыл бұрын

Ah, that would be a no. Have you driven a Z4MC? If you had you definitely wouldn't forget about it!

@kheldaryt

3 жыл бұрын

@@Audidude audidude Z4M Coupe is good but OP is right Z3 based S54 M Coupe is (granted it's subject) soo much better/cooler... (yes have driven both)

@kheldaryt

3 жыл бұрын

Yep Z3 based S54 M Coupe is in a different league than this S52 they reviewed. Especially at the time it came out, it was a ridiculously special car.

This has to be the most understated review of an M Coupe I've ever come across given how the M Coupe has such a cult following, has appreciated in value, and become a collector car. You guys almost don't even smile while driving it. Then again, that could be because it's an S52 example ;). Seriously though, every other video about this car is glowing and shows what an emotional response driving this car provides its driver.

@classiccarssp

3 жыл бұрын

Totally agree! Is because of the S52 engine for sure.. the S50/54 is a different game!

@emanon321

3 жыл бұрын

While the Geese and company usually do an exemplary job on the cars featured, sometimes they truly "don't get it." This review is one of those times. Sort of dour and humorless, IMO. The S52 is a wonderful engine and with the Dinan bits even better. I've got one, so I "know." :). It gives up little to the S54 at relatively sane driving speeds on public roads. On a more positive note, Jack adds a lot to the act, and Mark's camera work is exemplary as always.

@fmcfad01

3 жыл бұрын

@@emanon321 I've owned an S52 M Coupe and traded up for an S54. Both are fantastic! What's up fellow M Coupe owners!

Absolutely love how honest and raw you are about viewers cars you review with out worrying about hurting there feelings. 👍

Even though I will never buy a BMW its Savagegeese therefore I watch it and hit the like button anyway. Love Jack and Mark's professionalism with jokes 🤣! I can't get enough of you guys please keep it up!

I was so excited when I saw this in my inbox, I somehow absolutely love the quirkiness and the looks of this car. It’s unique, something which is lacking in today’s auto market. Thank you for reviewing this!

Love these past car reviews by SG: they show me how much I missed out on when I was a child.

This video is beautifully crafted! Simply superb!

I have always absolutely loved these cars!!!....thank you so much for doing this video!!

The stock quad exhaust looks so much better .. what the car has now just doesn't look like it belongs on the car

@ArtVandelayOfficial

3 жыл бұрын

100%

@jaysefmacmanus8858

3 жыл бұрын

The Dinan exhaust is obnoxious, but I kinda love it. Probably because the rest of the car (from the outside) is obnoxious as well. I would keep it.

@s2k4l10

3 жыл бұрын

@@ArtVandelayOfficial owyes, that exhaust irritated me also... it looks completely out of place.

@emanon321

3 жыл бұрын

The Dinan exhaust on this car is at the very least, "polarizing." I prefer the stock quad look on mine but as interpreted by Stromung.

@SurelyYewJest

3 жыл бұрын

Ya, the Dinan exhaust setup never looked good to me, either.

holy i was researching this 2days ago and saw this today great help guys. and IMO this looks amazing maybe im weird but i will say the designer of ff and lusso definitely saw this

You deserve way more subscribers! The quality is always top notch and the humor gets me ever time XD. Keep up the good work Mark and Jack :D

I love this review - thanks for showing these cars the love they deserve

Love the chemistry that Jack and Mark have developed as Jack has become a larger part of the channel. Another great video!

Back when BMW still made BMWs

Damn! This is gold! Was really waiting on you guys to review an M coupe one day!

Your intro pans are like the body positive movement. They capture some defects, but in a very authentic feel good way. I love it

Great video as always! This car is really unique and I've always loved it. They are quite rare and worth a lot now as well. If you guys are trying to do a few more older cars, have a look at maybe a 2007 or 2008 350z MT either a nismo (the engineering for these nismos was much different), or a roadster is also super fun in a manual for those two years. Cheers!

Great way to start Monday.

I remember the first video you did on this channel, and I must say you have come a long way Jack!

So glad you guys are almost at 500k.

that exhaust sounds genuinely amazing!

Great video and review Top notch as usual Love these cars

I remember when this “baseball cap” :) came out. It was one of the first (if not the first) car that you needed to register online for the first cars. But damn did it age well and is a great classic car now.

I'm an Alfa person (have owned over a dozen). I've owned one BMW, an '03 ZHP with the 6-spd manual, and I absolutely loved it, but I was fixing something every six months so got rid of it and haven't been tempted to get another Bimmer since. Except, this. I've always loved this and the love has never faded. One of the coolest designs ever.

I really admire the effort, great vid man!

“I feel like I’m in a got damn hobbit hole” 😂😂😭

I love it. It looks like a small, 2-door E39 Touring from a rear 3/4 angle, which I love, and the front isn't bad either.

The more I see these reviews, the more special I realize 80s and 90s cars are. They have character in the way you drive and interact with them. I daily an e36 M3, and enjoy it more than any modern car. It begs you to push it and make the most of the perfectly ballanced design. These Z3 M coupes are pretty sweet, in the right color they look good too, has to be a bold color.

you guys are nuts! these cars look incredible, especially in person.

I don't like how this thing looks, but I can't bring myself to hate it's weirdness either

@xristo702

3 жыл бұрын

find one out in the wild and see it in person...they look cool as shit but don't photograph well.

@joshbrock2663

3 жыл бұрын

its the 4 wheeled version of the band camp/sonic kid. wonderfully weird and interesting. pretty much impossible to hate, but easy to casually oppose

@anthonygillesse7242

3 жыл бұрын

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, this is a masterpiece. Only sheep wouldn’t like the styling, Princess you probably drive a SUV

@princesstsu4964

3 жыл бұрын

@@anthonygillesse7242 Nah SUVs are such a fuckin eye sore, I drive a '99 Prelude

I actually like the look of the car because of its WTF factor

@ArtVandelayOfficial

3 жыл бұрын

Same

@cytrynowy_melon6604

3 жыл бұрын

A bit of WTF must be there to making something interesting. Passive-agressive styling ,,I am an assertive successful man but also kinda conservative" like in most Audi models, without much creativity - makes everything crude. BMW seems to be most creative from german manufacturers when it comes to original design.

@Dowlphin

3 жыл бұрын

@@cytrynowy_melon6604 I find Audi has a sense for subtle tastefulness. - I don't like the brand, but they manage to make an average sedan look like the product of a famous Italian designer. I am especially impressed by some of their tail lights designs. Also, I see an A4 parked here that is a relief from the sad state of paint color options these days, because although it is the boringly abundant red, it is a red that still manages to excite, by looking fiery-passionate. The only red I have seen in a long time that doesn't feel like it's ashamed of itself and apologetic.

@ahhh6201

3 жыл бұрын

@@Dowlphin Have you seen mazda's Soul Red? Its gorgeous, easily the best red in the normal car segment.

@Dowlphin

3 жыл бұрын

@@ahhh6201 That's exactly what I mean: They either add so much wannabe-fancy crap that it is reflecting so much color garbage from the environment that it makes it look dirty and dim, thereby removing what makes red interesting, fearing that otherwise it would look too simple, or they actually offer a simple red of a tone that just looks cheap and boring as hell and as if selected to coerce buyers into a higher trim line. - *Examples of proper red:* i.ytimg.com/vi/DKEqqbDkCYM/maxresdefault.jpg / i.ytimg.com/vi/c0APYa1W6Do/maxresdefault.jpg / i.ytimg.com/vi/vlMsTbmGgz0/maxresdefault.jpg

Nice drone shot at the College. Love the vids, Scott mentioned you a while ago, been subscribed ever since.

I dont know why but I love this shape! The ferrari gtc 4 lusso is another car that I find attractive

I'm 6'1" and 190lbs. Comfort has never been a problem even with a helmet on track. Cabin is small but it feels like a proper cockpit. I've never seen any ugly in these. They are bad ass. The rear end is like some crazy custom muscle car. Except for the Z4M, I feel like there aren't too many cars 20K-25K that check off soo many boxes. Rare, great on track, cost appreciating, easy to maintain, luxury, bad ass style.

@emanon321

3 жыл бұрын

Spot on, BD!

Love these reviews of older stuff. Especially seeing how far chassis and mechanical development have come in 20-30years.

@cw205mi16

3 жыл бұрын

The rear suspension was based on the E30, so was already 20yrs old in design when new.

A weird duckling for sure, that sound is amazing. On the one hand it's amazing how much cars have improved considering suspension, chassis, safety, on the other hand you lament how bad the user interface, turbo's, complexity has gotten. It's nice to see vintage cars and drive them but I do think a lot is blind nostalgia. I would rather get a modern car while looking out for the pitfalls then get a vintage car to "simplify" my ride. Thanks to the owner for allowing the guys to make this video. Nice work.

One of my favorite M Cars! Great Vid!

I've always loved this model BMW!

When these first came out I saw one at an auto show and I sat in the low, well bolstered seat and it was love from that moment on.

One of the best cars I ever owned. DD track days long trips. Built like a rock just fun miss it a lot

I love when you guys do a 90's and early 2000 vehicles. In my opinion they are the best of reliability and drivability.

I really appreciate your reviews of these older vehicles. I'd love to see a comparison video in which you explain how the undercarriage of new cars differs from say the early 2000s cars that are still around.

Miss my old Boston green E36 M3! Favorite car I've had yet.

@NickHazletonMusic

3 жыл бұрын

Great color! I miss my 1999 cosmos black on Sand beige coupe 😢

I love my 2000 M Coupe! For me, it's the handling that's the star of the Clownshoe. Having driven an E46 M3 and supercharged E36 M3 (more powerful BMWs of the same vintage) along with 911s (993C2S and 996TT) and having also previously owned a 987 Cayman S (the latter having IMHO perfect handling characteristics), all I can say is that while the Coupe might not be as fast, and comparably has objective weaknesses in the handling department, it's precisely these qualities that make it interesting and fun to drive. It just doesn't feel like anything else. Stiffness isn't everything! And if you throw in coilovers and other suspension mods, the Coupe is basically as planted as the Cayman while retaining this weird "whip" handling quality that's hard to describe. Maybe it's body roll, maybe it's me about to be launched off the road, but it's intoxicating. I'm also 6'1" and have no real issues in the cabin - it can be a bit tight, but I like that feeling. I've driven it cross-country multiple times, it is a joy to spend time in. The Coupe is, undoubtedly, my forever car.

That intro.... to another level.

Nice car @J pic. Thanks for sharing it with all of us through Savagegeese, my favorite youtube car reviewers (yes, I like you too Throttle House!). Good luck on selling your car

These were made here an hour away from me in Spartanburg South Carolina and I couldn’t be more proud

Very lucky to have had a coworker with one and got to get behind the wheel of a few times, the only BMW I've ever REALLY enjoyed driving

This is one of my favorite cars. I know it has faults, but this really is something I put on a pedestal. I'd love to own one ❤️

I have to say this channel has ruined my ability to watch a fair number of other car review channels... The level of production is fantastic, both Jack and what's his name are great, the depth of knowledge AND critique are well above many other channels. You guys have a "voice", and this is a big differentiator. Well done!

Your intros are phenomenal

I am a fan of these old M cars. They drive well and sound great 👍. Of course they’re going up in value as these kinds of BMW cars are out the window. Oh and there is nothing like an inline 6 induction sound. (: Thank you for sharing this review.

I just saw one of these for the first time a couple days ago. Had no idea it was a thing. Neat.

I usually don’t like BMWs but I’ll be honest, this is one of the few BMW cars I’d buy. Z3M Hatch. E39 M5 E39 M5 is a sleeper if you don’t know anything about cars and the Z3M is so different you wouldn’t know what it is and when you did find out, you’d call it ugly. It’s quirky and ugly but cool at the same time due to the rarity of it.

@lkr8013

3 жыл бұрын

Good taste in cars, I currently own both of them and reviews on my actual cars are here if you are interested kzread.info/dash/bejne/hauKsLKch6WYipM.html and kzread.info/dash/bejne/fJiXw7WYgKquYqg.html

@Audidude

3 жыл бұрын

Have a Z4MC now, and previously an E39 M5. That M5 is an astonishing car. Arguably the best sedan ever made. The Z4MC is totally different. Raw, unrefined in comparison, and far better connected. Totally different goals superbly met by both. Wish I still had the M5, but it was looking like an engine rebuild within the next couple of years. Replaced with a 911 996 Carrera 2 manual, which shares space with the Z4. Almost identical performance, totally different cars. My channel has videos of both.

New age top gear. Love you guys

Someone at my gym had a silver one. It was wierd in the best way possible. Very unique looking

Awesome Mark... good review as always. When are you going to review the e46 M3?

Great video

Please do more 80s, 90s and 2000s cars. The breed of cars from that era, the engineering, the design, the simplicity and the driving need to be highlighted more.

One of my favorite cars of all time. Capable and almost practical!

It looks like it’s sagging in the middle between the front and back wheels

@apocalypse487

3 жыл бұрын

That's a nice way to call Mark fat

@jamest5149

3 жыл бұрын

Samgab it’s awkward from many angle. Most cars have an awkward angle but his one doesn’t... have a ‘good’ angle.

@papa_pt

3 жыл бұрын

@@jamest5149 the rear with those FAT flares

@VersanGetryx

3 жыл бұрын

@@jamest5149 The rear and rear three quarter panel view are pretty great, wide fenders!

@cw205mi16

3 жыл бұрын

It's too high at the front, worse when there are people in it since you sit at the back of the car.

I like how Jack kind of steered the conversation at 12:10, it felt very natural and unscripted. Good stuff.

Glad they discuss the huge issue on these, which is the rear subframe failure. There's kits out there to fix it, but even the torque of the S52 was to much for the welds in the back of the car. BMW cut corners on reinforcement for the M models. People should look for this when shopping these.

@maxheadroom224

3 жыл бұрын

9:30 - I think he discussed it

@jesseolsen6456

3 жыл бұрын

@@maxheadroom224 ah I stand corrected, I only heard VANOS. Good on them. Its a serious issue... should have showed it while under the rear. Fixed comment.

@maxheadroom224

3 жыл бұрын

@@jesseolsen6456 No worries, I'm sure any BMW geek willing to buy a clownshoe would find out well before purchasing one.

@cmacd8879

3 жыл бұрын

Jesse Olsen - it was the reason we sold our 02 after eight years... just didn't want to be moving into "classic" ownership with potential frame issues.

omg! what a vintage car, always wanted to have one for years... now i am in my AMG A45S 4Matic + !!!

Nice to finally see you guys feature an M Coupe. But as the cliche' goes, "beauty is in the eye...." FYI, I'm a very successful, godamn artist and I can unequivocally say that my '99 Boston Green M Coupe is beautiful! So there.... :) Plus, it looks even more terrific parked in the garage, next to my '03 Silverstone S2000.

I love mine. only take it out for short drives on nice weather days now.

oh boy I cant wait for that Viper review

Nice video. I am not sure if you meant it as an easter egg but the hood shots certainly look to be from the 997 video :)

S54 in Estoril blue is the holy grail.

One of my dream cars but at 6'5" this and the alfa 4c were both written off the must own list long ago

Almost bought a 2002 version in late 2006 for $25k. I hesitated and it was gone. Love the retro looks. Reminds me of an MGB GT but with German engineering.

I saw one of these today for the first tine ever in MA. It was in immaculate condition. Very unqiue body shape. Definitely could be a fun car & but you have to own it.

Love it. In UK I’ve only ever seen blue, silver, yellow or black. Would take that 👌🏻

loved the intro- and "hobbit hole" almost made me spill my beer.

I smell E46 M3 coming real soon.

Great video, once again. It made me go back and watch the Z4M video. After watching them, I am thinking that it would be quite informative to see your review of a first and/or second-generation Cayman S and how it compares to the Z3/4M. Please, find one or both to review...you mention the Z4M basically being the best driver's car you can get for the price (when referring the $37k used tag), but I think the Cayman is possibly even better!

@Audidude

3 жыл бұрын

Check out Richard Hammond's comparison of Z4MC and Boxster S on KZread . Fun and good conclusion.

I traded a newer C63 AMG for a '99 M Coupe, and I don't regret it. It is a great driving experience, and the styling while strange invites a lot of random discussion.

I was lucky enough to ride in one of those. it was rougher but supper fun to be in.

One of my absolute favorite M cars of all time.

That Z3M is in remarkable condition. Very clean and well taken care of. Amazing. #Hatchlyfe

@jpic6098

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

I love these cars! Love the body style!

Great video, too many panning shots however, also liked it more when you used arrows to point at the suspension components

Great one guys...love the clown shoe! Almost had one before the prices spiked...but bought an s2000...different, but better long term investment and more fun.

I love it, it looks unique

I personally have always liked how the Z3M coupe looked, especially the later S54-powered version. It's one of the purest forms a "driver's car" can take. - It's only as big as it needs to be - It's not terribly heavy - it's RWD manual with an NA straight-6 - It's on a chassis lauded for its handling characteristics and personality - It's just the right combination of analog and digital, trending toward analog - It has a bit of cargo space if one absolutely MUST have that - It's all-weather capable without having to be concerned with a fabric top or a mechanism that will leak - It (probably) has better aero than the convertible version and is more rigid - It's not crazy expensive to operate (relatively speaking) It's looks are perhaps its weakest trait, but as looks go, it's hardly terrible IMO.