We have an 11 year old 3 series touring with the N47, bought when two years old with 20k on the clock. The N47 and BMW in general get a lot of flack for reliability, I have to say that this has been a very reliable car, in fact the most reliable car we have ever had. Since it came off the 5 year BMW service plan, I have looked after it myself, oil and filter every 10,000 miles. The only real problem my wife had was it went into full limp mode with warning of over heating, I replaced the temp sensor @ £12 of she went again. I had to replace the glow plug controller, one plug had gone, but replaced them all. I have no idea when the glow plug problems started as it didn't cause any noticeable problems. The fuel rail pressure sensor went bad. I replaced the CC pipe you mention, it was an older design that the one you show. The wiring to the fuel line pressure/temp sensor broke away from its plug. The coolant thermostat went at about 70k, I replaced the pump at the same time. Other than regular maintenance that's been it. The timing chain issue with this engine is a concern, it seems so random some seem to go at lowish mileages others still going at 200k. Mine has had a slight tsh tsh sound at idle for some time. We missed out on the BMW "quality enhancement" but on talking to them they stated that on our vin ours wasn't listed as one that needed checking. I suspected that was crap. I did replace the top tensioner with an updated one, but it didn't make any difference to sound. The car is on 130k now and I have decided to replace all three chains, guides and tensioners anyway. It's too good a car to get rid of and wouldn't get much for it now.

@spencerhulme1203

4 жыл бұрын

The gentleman who hosts this channel is bang on with the advise, the timing chain well my job at BMW cost £6,000 on an e92 M Sport N47 i did the clutch the same time for an extra grand all original parts at least then you know what you going to get "manufacturing and service deal warranty on parts".

@BMWDoctor

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks mate I appreciate it and that’s only because I owned about 5 and dis timing chain about 60 times on the ground for myself and others lol

@spencerhulme1203

4 жыл бұрын

@@BMWDoctor Been thinking about doing an EGR full delete. done the swirl flats already, lot some low end power but better than than £ the thousands it would cost once they had fallen inside. Next to do Water-Pump and Thermostats after my full Bilstein suspension upgrade - keep on with that you do "make differences" to people's own equality of life - take care.

@kavindumalshan9379

3 жыл бұрын

Is your N47T OR N47D20?

@johndavies4644

2 жыл бұрын

@@BMWDoctor I don't doubt your experience.. But i genuinely believe the issue is caused by bmw using LL04 oil. People were driving these for 2 years with no servicing beliving the oil was long life. Oil pressure is used for the chain tensioner.. I have a Honda Civic n16a1 idtec ( diesel) engine and an N47T 320d m sport plus lci (diesel).. oil is changed every 6000 miles.. i can hear a tone difference when it used to hit 10k, not only me but the mrs said it too. Diesel engines destroy oil, super quick and fill it with containments.. it may still be stable but its dirty. In regard to the mileage of failure being all over the place, the n47 was stuck in nearly eveything in the 2010s. 520d ,320d 120d.. these were getting shaved back massively due to uprise of pcp. We both know if you set it back to 0km then go on, you'll get no tamper dot. Bmw have been counting abs module rotations in defence. Again i dont disrespect your knowledge, but i think the n47 gets a bad name and in my opinion bmw caused it due to oil changes.

I owned a 2014 BMW 2 series 220D with N47 engine. I bought the car in 2016 and owned it for 5 years. To this day, I haven't had a single engine problem. I just service regularly whenever the reminder comes up.

Finally, someone who knows exactly and not talking just about a bunch of assumes and thoughts, big up for you and thank you very much for this video as it helps me now a lot, as I am currently doing general maintenance on my N47 E90 and got stuck on solving the issue with overcooling engine, loose power over 3000rpm and not working heating/cooling in the cabin. I deleted EGR and removed swirl flaps so far and wasn't sure about what to do next to make sure that everything will work properly and smooth as it should. Hope will pull and heat again after all this.

@BMWDoctor

4 жыл бұрын

Your welcome good friend I’m from the U.K. so of course I will have more knowledge on this engine then most people who make these videos which are usually the US people who haven’t a clue about Diesel engines

@petrsarady8575

4 жыл бұрын

@@BMWDoctor.Yep absolutely Just wondering, if there is such a huge difference between the OEM and aftermarket MAF sensors prices, would you recommend to keep the original one and clean it by CRC cleaner or rather change for £20 aftermarket new one?

Excellent video. Keep em coming doctor

Have a 2009 touring for past 5 years and done 160 000 miles in it has 252 000 miles on it I change oil every 8000 castrol fully synthetic Never had any trouble with this car still returns 60 to the gallon and pulls like a train

Great video, thanks for that, even though I have 2011 f10 with N47 engine it's still pretty much the same engine in both cars. I have to replace crankcase breather pipe on it, now I haven't find it on the net specifically for f10, it's classified as for N47 breather pipe with E60 mark, just hope that I purchased a correct one, I'm still waiting for it to be delivered though so I don't know for sure will it fit. Is there anything specific and important that I have to be careful when I'm replacing breathing pipe?

Great video man and great channel. I know not n47 related question but im thinking of a 2008 318i do they suffer from timing chain issues aswell and can it be a good engine. Thanks

My bmw 1 series 118d e88 convertible 12 plate still runs like a dream,never had a problem with it yet,I service it every 3000 miles. Never had a problem yet either with my bmw m3 bi turbo 16 plate.

Hello and thanks for the review. I am buying a 520d 177 with the automatic gearbox and 256k km. The chain was replaced at 180k km? When is a good idea to replace it again? And how about that "Cobra" gearbox. Are they prone to any catastrophic failure?

I've been searching the whole net and NOT a single video... Until NOW Your videos are 1 of 1 - ,no other owner or supposed expert can or / has done what you have done .. Your channel is the Real Deal!!!!!! Well done 👍👍👍👍👍👍

@BMWDoctor

4 жыл бұрын

You are welcome and I aim for this channel to be different and not just full of petrols for the USA guys that’s why it takes someone from the Uk who has them all to do it

i'm interested by a mini R55 bond street with this engine (55000km) what do you think about it ? Does the timing chain need to be change asap (it doesnt rattle and there is a 12 month waranty) ?

What a great video! Thanks mate

Dean can you please shed some light on the n47t the technical update version vs the original n47

Great video, my engine is heating up pretty quick. The fan works while the car is on but once turned off the fan goes off. It doesn't stay on to cool down further? 09 520d lci

Watching this before going to look at a 2007 model. Thank you for the advice bro

Hey, just watched this and appreciate the breakdown of info 👍 Have two 1 x 120d sport coupe & 1x 123d m sport stage 1 mapped which I bought today..both March 2010's Where are you in the Country, I need to get both up together (120 for sale & 123 for keeps) Both need timing chain and service & 1 Cambelt on 123, and seeing this, consider removing EGR then reversing the stage 1 Map?

2013 316d 54k on the clock I’m buying it . I’m a mechanic I do low mileage will be changing the oil every 5k is the engine the same as in this video ? Is it actually any good worth a buy

Hello i think you are a very smart man. which diesel engine 4 cylinder bmw e 60/90 is reliable after 2009 to choose and is it safe to buy if oil changed regularly- chain problems. Which year models are the Most affected? Best regards.

Thats a mouthful! All great info, thanks man. But if I were you I will change the logo, just in case BMW wants to get a cut from your earnings in the future :) seriously

@BMWDoctor

4 жыл бұрын

lol dont worry they cant do me nothing

I absolutely love it videos dude..I have a question....from what I read ...a EGR delete is illegal...If that's true ..are there any alternatives to go around it.....I'm asking cuz I have an N47 engine n it's on 121000 miles ..it runs great atm...but I don't know what to do with the EGR...

My E60 N47 LCI has 610K km on its mileage. Had to replace the timing chain at 518K km after rattling noise appeared and I don't even change the oil before it has 25K km on it Initially, I planned to drive the car up to 800K km but seems it will easily go for a million. When I hear stories about snapping chains at 120K miles without any warnings, that's either complete B.S., or I am the luckiest guy ever. But on the other hand luck may have nothing to do here because prior to the BMW I had a Ford Focus 1.6 TDCI that now has 440K km on it and people tend to bash Ford's reliability as well.

@GalantPeer81

2 жыл бұрын

I have an E90 320d LCI model, currently at 312K km and no timing chain issues. Absolutely brilliant car. From what I know is that the first 2 series of N47 engines, the A and B versions had quite a lot of problems, the C model 2011 and later (same as mine) seem to have far less problems. Personally, I think it's down to proper maintenance (changing the oil on time) and just usage of the car. How does one drive it? I usually let it idle for a minute before driving off, and the first 5 or so kilometers i'm gentle with the throttle. And also 'load changes' (heavy accelerating/letting go of throttle) tend to put a hard strain on the timing chains. I think this is of great importance whether the timing chain needs to be replaced or not.

@sabnox9869

2 жыл бұрын

So if kilo is thousand and mega is million that means you'll have a megametre on the clock? that sounds funny..

Thank you for a very interesting video. As english is not my native language i am spesially greatful for your slow speaking. As i am the owner of a 2014 320GT equipped with the N47. Is that also just a matter of time (within normal lifespan, everything will break sooner or later) before the timing belt breaks? Here in norway it is much more than "a grand" to get timing belt on the N47 fixed. They are talking about 7-8000bp with x-drive. Also i heard a higher price where the sprocket on the camshaft was broken and as it was nort replacebale so the camshaft also had to be replaced. they said close to 9000bp for that job. How can it be that a qualety auto maker maker designs her products like that? I also want to ask you about the tuning. Everybody does it, but it sounds to me like you say it is a bad idea? Will the engine not stand it? Whatabout the BMW tuning kit for 204hp where they change the intercooler and the whole mapping box? And isen`t the 325 the same engine with another turbo++? I see you have removed your egr. Can your car still pass the emissiones and how much better is it without it? Is the keeping of the egr the reason why the BMW tuning kit wich cost a lot only make 204hp while a cheap tuning can promise 222hp as they remove the egr? Or are the numbers from the tuning companys "fake news" as a certain president would put it in his modest way? Many questiones, but i really liked your video and i like these cars even i dont like to see the 3-double timing belt on my neighboers Honda fit located easy to axsess wich it proborbly never has to be. Why not like that for a premium car? finnvinn

Just got an 09 E61 20D. Chain was replaced at 250k km in 2015. Now sits at 379k, sounds good but will the revised chain last longer?

I’m really wanting to get a 2 litre pal do you think if it has a full service history and I look after it I shouldn’t have many problems?

Hey I have a quick question not considering the n47 engine . I would like to know if you are able to retrofit electric power seats to my f30

Mind boggingly comprehensive overview.

@BMWDoctor

4 жыл бұрын

That’s just how this engine is mate troublesome and unreliable

Had 3 BMW N47T engines in the house for 7 years. All oiled changed once a year, nothing else needed other than discs, pads and one battery. Knock on wood of course. Lovely cars. F20, F30 & E84

@jaynet1539

6 ай бұрын

7 years old BMW 3 n47T engine. Turbo leaking, DPF dead, EGR cooler replaced TWICE!!! due to class action lawsuit ... are you fukin kidding us ??? This is the worst car on the planet. Along with mini cooper.

Hi mate I have bmw 320d Efficient dynamics 2012 0n 85000 miles on clock - sound seems alright- do I need to worry for my make or still chance for timing chain breaking Cheers

thanks im buying a 2013 320D. Are the timing chains better on them? its on like 206k km 128k miles. Is it due or can it go on? service history is excellent with it. thanks great video

If I were to buy a bm with the n47 engine and the chain showed no signs of rattling would you still replace it? They cars I’m looking at are around 100k in miles. If i was to replace it how long would you then say it is good for if I service it every 9/10k? Btw are you an ex master tech or something?

Saw a BMW f11 and when accelerating it would make faster rattling sound. Would that be chain or other? At idle it didn't sound rattling. Walked away from that are obviously but might be looking at others in future.

The hose you showed @ 10.13, mine is cracked and isn’t connected to the intake, where can I get a replacement

Hello, While reading error codes on my BMW 318d 105kw n47 11/2008 LCI, it's reporting in dde an fault code 4CA7 fuel temperature sensor, plausibility - do you maybe know what it represents, where this sensor is placed? Thanks, Daniel.

Dean, thanks for posting this mate. Mine 118d is an 09 sounds and runs like new. 89k on the clock. So fast and reliable, I only use Shell V power diesel and oil service is done at less than 8k miles every time, but sounds like I might have to sell the car if that timing chain replacement is that much. 😕

@BrainTrainer369

3 жыл бұрын

Paul Lockwood I’ll buy it

Dr i have recently bought 520d 2012 model N47 engine. I checked the service history, the time chain was changed at 158000kms. And now the car has done 218000kms. So plz advice me when shud this time chain be changed again, like how long do they last??

Nice job! Can you do M47 next?

I have F22 220d 2015 with an N47 t. Should I be concerned about the Timing Chain?

I see a leak next to the pipes, I keep losing power from time to time. I used liqui moly spulung it fixed the issue, 2 days ago the problem came back I have high consumption and it hardly accelerates. can you help? should I remove the EGR? what pipes I can change? oil next the inlet sensor charge pipe. and next to EGR from the pipe tube.. Thanks!

Hi mate your ok hope you can help iv got a pipe which has come off its on the bottom as I was driving I felt as tho i was losing power when I pull over I could hear air coming from the engine as I check the pipe was hanging what do you think that is or come of from please

Egr valve delete.... Does this not effect dpf regeneration which is why people also get the dpf delete? I see you don't recommend dpf delete, what issues does deleting it cause?

Do i need to remove the egr or can i just block it on the ecu and make it stay on the closed position?

I baught a 2006 520d m sport with a m47 engine 9 years ago and i still have. I service it 1s a year and i just replaced the clutch kit on it in august and i plan on holding on to it for aslong i can its a belter of a car

Mate, is there a slim chance some of the late 2009 N47s had this revised timing chain issue resolved? My 120d is on 89k engine is so quiet you wouldn't even know it was running compared to some newer diesels.

Hi m8 just bought a 63 plate 118d with full history . It has 54000 on are they that bad , and can you tell me the must dos regardless !

if you don´t hear any noise from timing chain do you have to change? I've got a bmw 318D from november 2010 and don't hear any noise from the timing chain , the car has 124k miles on the clock and bmw recommended me to replace the timing chain only because of the mileage. they said yes it does not make any noise but with that mileage is better to replace it... what do you think? it sounds to me that bmw dealer just want to earn money

hi there ive just got a x3 20d xdrive on a 2013 plate will the timing chain have been updated by bmw with it being after 2010 cheers

Hi Doc, Love your videos, so much in fact that im now planning on selling my dear Volvo V70 2.5T and buy myself a E90 320D EDE 2011 with 9500km on the clock. Its a one owner, well maintained vehicle. Nothing under the hood has been replaced since new. Im having my own BMW Doctor here in Sweden, whos gonna help me change the chains, pullys and tensioners. But what about the EDE-stuff. Do you know anything about that? It hard to find any good info on the internet about it. Would be very pleased if you could consider doing a E90 EDE video (N47) covering the dynamics and electronics. Best regards Robert Sweden

can you make a video on replacing the brake booster vacuum pump? because on my car the vacuum pump failed and now i dont have boost for the brakes

Great video. What do you think about N47T engine? And as an advice can you talk slowly, as i am not a native english talker, sometimes is hard to understand. Keep it up!

I have a 2013 F30 - 184bhp with 83k miles on the clock. Do I need to worry about the timing chain?

My lord you had some caffeine before this video. Good explanation 👏

Every engine has its flaws. I have N47 2007 177 bhp. Removed flaps, changed timing chain, prevention fix, never had any problems, most reliable car i ever had, 230 000 km on the clock, pulls like crazy.😁

@xXxBo5sANaCxXx

3 жыл бұрын

What brand for the chain did u use? FAI? Febi?

@MarinTheFirestarter

2 жыл бұрын

I changed my chain at 130 000 km. Now it has 250 000. Do I have to change it again?

@shueibdahir

Жыл бұрын

@@MarinTheFirestarter its not a belt 😂😂😂😂

@Sigma.6

Ай бұрын

230,000? 😯 I have a car with the N52, 2.5 straight 6. I'm getting a little acted because it's reaching 76,000, but only because it's such a big looking engine. Should I be worried? The servicing has been done by the book, with the proper long life oil used.

every time i watch bmw doctor reliability video i change my mind of wanting to buy that engine :))))))))

i have a n47 that is making noise at 2000+ rpm and lacks power, mecanic is telling me its the cahin but idk, some advice please?

I've had the egr n swirl flaps blanked is it normal to sort of get a suction noise almost similar to the turbo whistling from the engine

@BMWDoctor

4 жыл бұрын

If your getting a suction noise I would suggest your turbo intake pipe is not properly seated in the turbo

Very informative! Lots of info! Excellent! I'm looking at a 2015 X3 Xdrive28d. N47 engine. It has 63 miles on it. Test drove the car it goes good. Seems like a lot of exhaust system vibration at idle, up forward near the engine. It has the 8 speed ZF. Any thoughts on this car? I don't want a bucket of headaches, my daughter would be driving it, not me. They want 3500 bucks for a 24month/24k extended warranty.

@BMWDoctor

4 жыл бұрын

My friend it won’t be this engine That will be B47 which I have on my other videos

Is there away of checking if the timing has jumped on the n47 engine, I have a 120d 2007 it has zero compression on cylinder 3 It’s had the inlet manifold replaced as there was a hole in it and some plastic had broken of and looks to have been sucked in to cylinder 3, I want to check the timing to rule out the chain jumping and so I can remove the head, but can’t find any information on timing marks, any information or links would be amazing

@nihonkokusai

4 жыл бұрын

Is your variable flap broken?

I honestly wonder if a Honda Accord diesel of the same era would have as many issues to watch for?

This video is a gold mine.

@BMWDoctor

4 жыл бұрын

Your welcome

Where did you friend get the EGR DELETE KIT

thank you for sharing your knowledge... priceless ! I'm just left with the question ! Is the timing chain problem solved on cars manuf in 2010 or is it 2011 ?

@nurousek123

3 жыл бұрын

I’ve heard that they fixed those on F models

@KarlstadDrums

2 жыл бұрын

From what I've heard the F models have better chains than the E models but still faces snaps, the engine was supposedly updated in 2012 and called N47T

Are there any signs that the timing chain is going to go?

I was told removing the EGR with the DPF still in place was an absolute no go, as it will clogg up pretty sharpish. Do you not think this is the case?

@shueibdahir

Жыл бұрын

Nope. Just make sure your dpf is not already clogged up before you do it. And also DO NOT do an egr delete without a remap. If the computer detects problems with the egr because you blocked it, your ecu wont initiate a regen. Also i'd suggest you not removing the dpf. Simply get it blocked off with a strong plate and remap the engine so it knows not to open egr or take it into account.

You seemed to say you're not a strong believer of removing the DPF because it causes further issues? What issues are they?

I'm interested in buying a used f22 225d, produced in 2014, with the n47 engine and I couldn't find a better video to educate myself about this engine..well done my friend! I suppose it has the revised tensioner but did BMW really solve the timing chain problem or it just extended the lifetime of the timing chain and it will eventually snap?

@RoobehTunes

Жыл бұрын

My 2011 n47 has thge revised setup but is now rattling at 235k miles (347k km) so a substantial improvement over what older engines last for but nothing lasts forever!

@brarautorepairs

Жыл бұрын

@@RoobehTunes You likely keep up with your oil changes as well. The timing chain will wear faster with worse-quality oil because soot will be in the oil from burning diesel.

Does anybody have any idea or thoughts about the N47T and not just the regular N47? Since there isn’t much info on it anywhere on the net or KZread :l

Had a 2013 320d and at 120,000 miles these kind of things started going wrong. Starting with a drive moderately message on the I Drive screen and then sporadic engine lights. My car was fully serviced with oil and filter changes every 10k and only motorway driving too. , The EGR was replaced and I was still getting the messages. I got the message.. time to sell, and that's what I did. My advice - be wary at this age / miles.

What about the n47's post 2014? Thanks

Should the swirl flaps also be something to look out for on these engines ? Got the 2010 lci model, on removing intake manifold for cleaning , I found the rod had snapped and, swirl flaps were falling out of the manifold.

@qw-

Жыл бұрын

yes, remove them

@stevem2323

Жыл бұрын

Never heard about that in these engines.

Any issues with the 118D 2.0L M Sport 64 reg? I'm considering this but concerned about the timing chain. It has 31k miles on the clock.

@piovo5222

2 жыл бұрын

Such low miles for a diesel, gonna be completely blocked with carbon. I’d rather prefer a higher mileage 64 reg.

Thank you very much master!!!!

So if the timing chain had been updated to newer improved version at 100k does it become non serviceable? Or would it need changing again at 200k?

@KamilJan95s

4 жыл бұрын

If you have proof of the work being done then I wouldn’t worry about it. Timing chain isn’t a serviceable part and it’s only a fear on these engines because of the design flaw and it wrecking the engine when it fails. Some VW have the same issues

Thanks for the video , just bought a Toyota RAV4 and in the review they said it’s a bmw n47 d20! So it’s not good as I thought?

@Pajune

4 жыл бұрын

By doing specific modifications for the engine (like removing the egr valve) and changing the oil in shorter intervals (BMW recommendation was 20tkm if i don't remember wrong, which is insane) the N47 engine can be quite reliable.

Hi mate, great video. I havw E90 318d with N47T engine. Car production date is 06.10.2010. Do you think I am safe from timing chain or shall I get it changed? Car is on 66k miles.

@nihonkokusai

4 жыл бұрын

Just keep changing oil half of the recommended 30000km

Is there anything that does not break up on this engines ?

Isn't removing EGR an mot fail same as removing dpf?

Turbo failed on mine, previous owner knew it was dying but didn't disclose. It wasn't whining but about 5mm play in the shaft. There was some light oil around turbo casing (where internal seals have gone) I should of noticed. Check this before buying!

What engine oil can you use on this engine? Is Castrol Edge 5W30 LL Oil 4L any good ?

@minimad8793

2 ай бұрын

as oil is fairly cheap and easy to change on this engine, I use 5w30 for the winter and 0w30 for the summer. I know a bit excessive on the oil changes but I have never had any issues since I have owned the car. So yes 5w30 is good for the older cars as the internal parts do wear over time.

At 110,000 had to replace: crankshaft pulley, flex pipe, glowplugs + module. Oil changed every 10k [with flushing oil used]. X1 automatic 4wd [N47D20C]. 45 Mpg on motorway but town only 30mpg. Toyota bring the corolla cross hybrid later this year which would be cheaper to run around town; I hope to keep the X1 so long as I don't have any more hefty repairs.

@blawkenmusic

Жыл бұрын

You don't buy diesel to run around town. This is killing them. This engine its not exception. If DPF is full it will try to Burn it by pouring a lot of fuel and this fuel is mixing with oil and its making oil lose its charatistics and without good lubrication this engine will fail. I seen diesel engine that are lasting 600-700k km on motorway use and the same engines failing at 150-200k km on city use. If you are using car in city hybrid/gasoline car i much better and will last longer

I’ve just purchased an f30 220d approved used 2012 with 55k on clock full service history via bmw , will this have n47engine prone to issues ? If so any tips to best avoid problems ? Thanks in advance

@nihonkokusai

4 жыл бұрын

Just service every 15000km/10000mls every oil change NOT 30000km/20000mls. Seen a lot of these go easily 250k when engine oil is changed half of the interval. The reason behind this is the chain tensioner works on oil pressure and bad oil is really a killer on these chains. Injectors issues is more of diesel filter that never needed to be changed or wayy too long. Change every 60000k/40000m should be fine unless your diesel quality is really moisture. Then do 30k/20kmls

My 520d was recalled by main dealer to check timing chain and they said it was ok and didn't need changing which they would have done for free as it's been serviced by them from new....is it ok?

@BMWDoctor

4 жыл бұрын

Wouldn’t trust it mate I would change it anyway they have a revised part number

I know this is a longshot, but maybe anyone had a problem with the xenons? When I start the engine mine go down like they're supposed to, but then they go up way too much and stay there, blinding other people on the road. I have no idea what could be the problem, I don't get any fault messages on the dashboard or infotainment system everything seems to be connected, also a third of the time I drive headlights work properly. There are no sounds coming from the headlights, I didn't modify the suspension and I don't have the adaptive headlights. I don't want to blind others, but I also have to drive daily to make it from work to lectures and driving on DRL is a bit dangerous. I have 1er e81 if that makes any difference.

I hope that was a bit of irony. "so angry sounding and I'm into hip hop". Lol. Smart move owning your own music score for your production. BRILLIANT SYNOPSIS! As I have a N47. Do you think replacing tensioners alone, on an example which hasn't had problems this far, would be a sufficient remedy. But I am scoping the future move to a M57.

i have an e91 318D (march 2009 production) 201.000km . Runs like a charm!

@BMWDoctor

4 жыл бұрын

It won’t for long I assure you of that hopefully timing chain will snap soon

@AlinPurcaroiu

4 жыл бұрын

@@BMWDoctor i'm keeping an ear open for new sounds but i'm thinking of going to the dealer and replacing it. Do you know if the replacement solves the problem? I'm curious if the engine torque is too much for the timing kit and if the engineering is bad on this n47. Thanks !

@nihonkokusai

4 жыл бұрын

@@AlinPurcaroiu if it doesnt rattle dont replace. Keep replacing engine oil like a normal car not extended engine oil interval.

@AlinPurcaroiu

4 жыл бұрын

@@nihonkokusai 210k still working like a charm. N47D20C

@Justas38

3 жыл бұрын

@@AlinPurcaroiu How about now mate?

How often is the timing chain issues in BMWs (mostly 3 and 4 series) made in 2013. and 2014.? Also, if it's still an issue on those N47s when would be a good mileage to change it?

@DjordjeSrpski

2 жыл бұрын

problems with chain are up to 2012 september

@tosin1977

2 жыл бұрын

@@DjordjeSrpski are you 100% sure I’be just put a deposit down on a 225d from December 2013

From all of you've said, a potential buyer of this car will run away... Well in all of the video it seems that this car and engine is a total disaster. Fails everywhere, everything on the engine will fail. But it is not exactly like that. Parts will fail anyway due to mileage and age. If you maitain the car corectly, it is the same as all the other car brands out there. So don't be afraid to buy one. Well ofc if you get the cheapest don't expect much anyway.

@karzem1

Жыл бұрын

I disagree with on one point, if you maintain the car (n47) correctly, it is better than “the most” of the car brands out there, I know because that’s what I have been doing these last years and it is still running perfectly, of course I’ve changed some parts (engine mounts, batterie 😉 brakes…) still with the original time chain ( I am surprised as well) and that’s it BMW 5-Series f10 2012 but only 130k

@cobraten91

7 ай бұрын

The engine is reliable,but the parts around it aren't.. because they're mostly plastic

@WayToManyAssassins

4 ай бұрын

​@cobraten91 what modern car doesn't have plastic?

I have 320D ED 2014 clutch slipping so getting a flywheel and clutch fitted it’s only on 83k it’s under warranty would it be worth getting the chain done or is this ok at this year, after watching this video I’m tempted to just push it off a cliff😂😂

Great video. Star as always. I'm in SE London, do you service? My 520d N47!

@BMWDoctor

3 жыл бұрын

no i don't sorry i don't do N47 engine its not worth it for me

@WelshyM

3 жыл бұрын

@@BMWDoctor keep the vids coming. I want a 530d next. My old 520 has been faithful since 2014.

@BMWDoctor

3 жыл бұрын

yeah I don't do diesel no more my friend I only do petrol on here all the 6 cylinder and M3 AND M5 engines

Clever guy... did he live in the west indies - Yea man

hi! thanks man! now that's a lot of good info! i also watched your b47 video, trying to decide on which one to buy. i'm looking at x3's, and can't decide between 2012 n47 with 100k km, and a 2014 b47 140k km both basically at the same price. please let me know what's your opinion, which one you think would give me less headache for the next 5-7 years. appreciate it thanks !

@RS-qu4gd

3 жыл бұрын

have you decide yet? whats your decision ?

mines 63 520s at 105 lci chain snapped costing me 1200 and if any other damages caused due to its extra bill, as I'm getting it repair what would u suggest me to also change as in fuel pump? etc

@dewanmiah2186

4 жыл бұрын

520d

@dewanmiah2186

4 жыл бұрын

glow plug? and should I also ego delete

Hi mate I wanted to remove my egr but been told you shouldn’t do unless you remove dpf too as they are connected in some way or form so if you do the one you should do both

@BMWDoctor

4 жыл бұрын

that is correct yes they are mate they are connected the EGR is what takes all the gasses back into the manifold to be burned off in the DPF and the thermostat on them is used to get it to temperature properly my advise would be to get rid of both but depends what country your in mate

Awesome content! I’ve got N47T 100k km should I replace the timing belt and delete the swirl flaps? Still running good

@MrChielo007

4 жыл бұрын

Just make sure of very regular oil changes and listen to it from time to time, if you hear it or not. If you hear it ratteling: replace immediately

@MrChielo007

4 жыл бұрын

Swirl flaps on N47 are of a single piece (compared to the screwed ones on M47) Failure is less common, however it's good to check if the rod of the flaps has play or not. Quite an easy job to remove the inlet manifold, around 2 hours of work, no special skills required

@MarinTheFirestarter

2 жыл бұрын

@@MrChielo007 mine rattles few seconds until tensioner starts woring at startup. But after there is no rattle. I changed chain set at 130 000 km. Now tha car has 250 000. Should i change it again?

I have a late 2016 435d I think it's a n57 engine. Do they also suffer with chain issues?

@christohees9150

2 жыл бұрын

no

so is it a N47D20C or a N47D20A?

Did I hear him correctly? They revised the N47 produced from 2010 onwards? (I know they can still cause timing chain problems but to a lesser extent)?

@christohees9150

2 жыл бұрын

yap

1999 MC.... Pass him the mic. Nice video.

Hi av got a bmw 120d n47d20c its very loud and rattley ive had the timing chain kit replaced the 3 chains and all the sprockets at a cost of 1200 ive got the car back and its exactly the same. Its very loud and gets louder the hotter the engine gets,

@BMWDoctor

4 жыл бұрын

That will be your chain again mate or maybe tensioner is not been done properly that’s the only thing that rattles on these cars badly that’s why I tell everyone the same get rid and get 6 cylinder and be happy and don’t look back all these 4 cylinder engines are what make people THINK bmw is a lot of crap NO MATE bmw is not crap it’s the engine you picked was crap get a 6 cylinder and no issues

@frankatheboy

4 жыл бұрын

@@BMWDoctor thanks for reply and very good advise much appreciated

Ok I've got a BMW e92 330d and I'm thinking of buying a f10 520 as a second car I'm sure them cars have had engine reliability issues if I do buy it what's the best way of looking after the engine

@BMWDoctor

4 жыл бұрын

mate dont BUY THIS ENGINE AT ALL !!!! thats my advice why you looking 2.0 go 3.0 engine or V8 engine thats the best way and I can advise you properly on them engines as there very little maintenance trouble free motoring

@o_twaadi2205

4 жыл бұрын

@@BMWDoctor I need something economical I do get around 40 mpg from 330d but I've heard the 2.0d can return in higher 50s. Is it worth getting 3.0d and getting the eco remap done on it ? Secondly my e92 recently had oil in the coolant expansion tank due to oil cooler was messed up and at one point the expansion tank was full of foam and car over heated and engine shut down. I've got the oil cooler sorted I find a little on in the coolant but no coolant in the oil . My question is that one time it overheated and turned off would that have messed up the head gasket ?

Do the N47 diesels suffer the same timing chain guide issue as the petrol N26 engines? They 'allegedly' fixed the issue starting 3/2015 with a different [yet still plastic] timing chain guide. Do the diesels N47->B47 follow the same timeline 3/2015? I'm still seeing reports of the newer petrol N26 timing systems and engines failing. You don't see timing chain issues with Toyota, Honda or even Chevy. Why can't the German manf get this sorted?

@BMWDoctor

4 жыл бұрын

Yes they do suffer it N47 is WORSE why you going all these small engines go 3.0 no problems