BMW K1600 Grand America unstable no more

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This is how one rider researched and solved the instability issues that plague K1600 Grand Americas. #k1600 #motorcycle #bmwmotorrad #7jrock #michelintires #india #bavaria #india #bmwmotorcycles #quick #s1000xr #s1000rr #handsome

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  • @user-vi6en8gu9n
    @user-vi6en8gu9n5 ай бұрын

    By far the most intuitive problem solving video I’ve ever seen! Great job Ralph

  • @ralpheglass

    @ralpheglass

    5 ай бұрын

    Wow, thanks! Glad you liked it!

  • @brianjanak7992

    @brianjanak7992

    4 ай бұрын

    @@ralpheglass 0:49

  • @audionutmike

    @audionutmike

    3 ай бұрын

    Have you posted a side view of where you placed these?

  • @ralpheglass

    @ralpheglass

    Ай бұрын

    I did yes, in order you could change tires, windshield, Aeroflow’wings’, then winglets last

  • @davechatfield2407
    @davechatfield24074 ай бұрын

    A video on the install of the wings would be great. We can not see the wings at all in this video.

  • @ralpheglass

    @ralpheglass

    4 ай бұрын

    Working on it!!!

  • @bbeach117
    @bbeach1176 ай бұрын

    Nice work Ralph! I almost traded in my 2018 GTL for a new Grand America, until I demo'd it on the highway, and found out how squirrely it was. Canceled my deposit, and kept my GTL.

  • @ralpheglass

    @ralpheglass

    6 ай бұрын

    Thanks for the kind words!!! I did make an inaccurate statement about an equation circumference = 2{3.14)Radius

  • @DougHurst

    @DougHurst

    6 ай бұрын

    Thanks for the review. I was aware of the first two and plan to add them soon. With the winglets, I can’t see those at all on the video. Would you be able to supply closeups and product links?

  • @petearchie61
    @petearchie614 ай бұрын

    Good Video, I was thinking about getting a 1600B probably not the GA but I'll keep this in mind when I go to look at the one I want.

  • @ralpheglass

    @ralpheglass

    2 ай бұрын

    Thanks for the kind words

  • @kevincourtney2922
    @kevincourtney29222 ай бұрын

    Glad you fixed your aero problem.

  • @ralpheglass

    @ralpheglass

    2 ай бұрын

    Thanks for stopping by!!!

  • @Donfleebie1
    @Donfleebie121 күн бұрын

    My old ‘batwing’ fairing on my 2012 Limited is dead stable at well over 100. I guess old tested designs still work. I wanted to buy a 1600B, but because they limited that glorious power plant to 105 changed my mind.

  • @jhenry6445
    @jhenry64453 ай бұрын

    Looks good. I have a 19 1600 B and I get the wiggles as well. Please do a walk around so that we can see exactly how your bike look with the aero pieces so that we can enjoy your modifications on our bikes. Thank you for your work. Much appreciated.

  • @ralpheglass

    @ralpheglass

    2 ай бұрын

    Will do soon, just read your comments this morning! Thanks for your kind words RG

  • @derricksmith2833

    @derricksmith2833

    Ай бұрын

    @@ralpheglass hey this was a great video i like every else need that build list i have the midnight 1600b 2023 i come from a go fast family and the wobble just aint it also could u send pics of the side screens thanks keep up good work brotha

  • @ralpheglass

    @ralpheglass

    Ай бұрын

    @@derricksmith2833 hey Derrick I’ve got several videos that cover what your looking for on the channel. If not you can email me your phone number and I can give you a call. Thank you very much RG

  • @synonyx
    @synonyx3 ай бұрын

    I just posted the review of the bike on my channel. I am 290 myself and I always wondered if it had to do with rider weight as some people don't have an issue at all. I wonder if making a 1" spacer for the rear shock to raise the rear up a bit would solve it too. I've hit my breaking point with the 'wobble' this bike has. Nice to hear someone truly has a fix. I have a 23 K1600B model myself.

  • @ralpheglass

    @ralpheglass

    3 ай бұрын

    Hey!!! Don’t fret!!! Start with the tires, windshield , Aeroflow wings then only if you need them winglets. If you would like additional info email me at 413 glass@gmail.com. RG

  • @ralpheglass

    @ralpheglass

    2 ай бұрын

    By the way just watched your video and left a few comments. Nice job! RG

  • @synonyx

    @synonyx

    2 ай бұрын

    @@ralpheglass Thanks, I have and want to do the winglets, but I also don't want to ruin my option 719 fairings with the special paint.

  • @distancejunkiemonkey4491
    @distancejunkiemonkey4491Ай бұрын

    thanks for the info! hey, this is a classic example of what do you do after you spend around $30,000 on something and realize it has a major problem? you fix it, you just fix it, what else are you gonna do? Sell it to somebody for a major percentage loss? negative, just fix it. But it's good to know because I was considering this motorcycle as a replacement for my Harley Davidson ultra Limited, which has had its fair share problems over the last 50,000 miles and I'm definitely not going to even bother looking at this Motorcycle at this point.

  • @Cyclizt
    @Cyclizt4 ай бұрын

    Hi, thanks for the simple explanation of how you fixed the "floating feel" on the front end of your bike. I have a 2019 K1600B Grand America and love riding the bike, except for the floating feel on the front of the bike when riding at highway speeds in South Africa. I reached the point where I put the bike up for sale and the guy who bought it a few days ago complained after he arrived home about the front end being damaged because of how it felt in strong windy conditions on his way home. I offered to refund his money and he returned the bike the following day. I emphasised that it was a common issue with all Grand Americas and not just my bike. I am glad to have it back but would like to implement some of the changes that you made to your bike to give it a stable ride. Looking forward to you reply and advice. Best wishes, Marc.

  • @ralpheglass

    @ralpheglass

    4 ай бұрын

    Hey Mark!!! 413glass@gmail.com order of changes that I made, not just aero, 1. Tires Michelin road 6GT’s 2. Windshield 7jrock ‘B’ style 3. Aeroflow’wings 4. Winglets

  • @ralpheglass

    @ralpheglass

    4 ай бұрын

    1. Tires original battlecrap must go! Michelin road 6GT’s 2. Windshield recommend 7jrock ‘B’ style 3. Aeroflow ‘wings’ for lateral stability 4. Winglets

  • @Cyclizt

    @Cyclizt

    4 ай бұрын

    Hi Ralph Thanks for the reply. I'll see how far I get with making some of your suggested changes to my bike while I still have it. Best wishes Marc

  • @ralpheglass

    @ralpheglass

    4 ай бұрын

    Marc, just added a winglets video!!!

  • @luisjromero
    @luisjromero20 күн бұрын

    Thans for the master class!..now I have enoght reasons for dont buy this bike .

  • @ralpheglass
    @ralpheglass5 ай бұрын

    Someone asked me about tires. This video is all about Aerodynamics. But I also did change the tires at about 3000 miles because the original battlcrap tires sucked! I use only Michelin tires on the big bikes and the k1600ga is on its second set of road pro 6 GT’s

  • @avinoamaharoni8219
    @avinoamaharoni82192 ай бұрын

    Very informative and encouraging. Thx. Can you please provide links to where you've purchased the add-ons as well as a clear image of the winglets installed? That would be very helpful.

  • @ralpheglass

    @ralpheglass

    2 ай бұрын

    For more info on all links they’re in the comments and there is a video on winglets installation on the channel.

  • @MkvanDalen
    @MkvanDalen3 ай бұрын

    Thanks for making this video and explaining everything so well, i love my 22GA but I have been experiencing the wobble around 70 on the highway and did not like it at all… I will get and install the winglets on Wednesday… I saw the windshield and will order it from jurock but where I can get the side deflectors?

  • @ralpheglass

    @ralpheglass

    3 ай бұрын

    The winglets should probably be the last change but they do look interesting…

  • @terryweller1744
    @terryweller17446 ай бұрын

    Very interesting information, mostly related to the winglets you talked about. I currently have a 2023 GA and previously had a 2018. I have both the Aerowings and 7Jurock windscreen and experience the same issues you had. I don't have the technical knowledge dealing with the winglets you added on and would be interested in hearing from you what you purchased from Amazon and the exact location they were placed. If you had a picture of the placement and the details of the winglets that would be wonderful.

  • @ralpheglass

    @ralpheglass

    5 ай бұрын

    I’d be happy too.

  • @ralpheglass

    @ralpheglass

    5 ай бұрын

    Send me a phone number to 413glass@gmail.com and I’ll call for more information. This goes for everyone not just Terry.

  • @ralpheglass

    @ralpheglass

    4 ай бұрын

    I made video on the winglets

  • @terryweller1744

    @terryweller1744

    4 ай бұрын

    Thank you.

  • @davidrosenblum2178

    @davidrosenblum2178

    4 ай бұрын

    Links for the accessories you recommend would be appreciated. Thanks for the informative video; I’m contemplating a GA and wasn’t even aware of this issue until I started digging.

  • @newboscoddog01
    @newboscoddog014 ай бұрын

    I am from Ireland and have ordered the winglets. Would it be possible to post a photo of where you located the winglets and at what angle, please? Or maybe a short video as I cannot get a good view of them from your original video clip. Thank you.

  • @ralpheglass

    @ralpheglass

    4 ай бұрын

    I’m working on it

  • @newboscoddog01

    @newboscoddog01

    4 ай бұрын

    @@ralpheglass Many thanks!! The wingless arrived in the post yesterday.

  • @ralpheglass

    @ralpheglass

    4 ай бұрын

    Just posted a video on installation. Let me know if it’s helpful!!!

  • @markneblett2777
    @markneblett27772 ай бұрын

    I get how the winglets create stabilizing downforce. What I don't understand is what eliminated the left pull. I've tried multiple K16's over the years, and they all pulled left pretty heavily. I would love to have a K16 again, but only if I *know* exactly how to fix the left pull. Thanks!

  • @ralpheglass

    @ralpheglass

    Ай бұрын

    Windshield Aeroflow wings and tires then winglets as a last addition if you need them

  • @olmanzomby7718
    @olmanzomby77185 ай бұрын

    I have the 2018 GA and I'm very familiar of said "wobbles." I have bought the 7-Jurok windscreen, but I wasn't aware of the winglets and/or Aero wings. Can you please share more of this information with me about making my bike more stable?

  • @ralpheglass

    @ralpheglass

    5 ай бұрын

    Please send me an email with your number and I’ll give you call when I can. Thanks RG

  • @ralpheglass

    @ralpheglass

    4 ай бұрын

    Just added winglets video!!!

  • @howards.stormesii9804
    @howards.stormesii98044 ай бұрын

    how did you find the winglets on amazon, i have been looking and do not find them!

  • @ralpheglass

    @ralpheglass

    4 ай бұрын

    Hey, search motorcycle winglets on Amazon App they cost about 30.00. Still can’t find them please email me 413glass@glass.com

  • @andrewbrofman8741
    @andrewbrofman87412 ай бұрын

    What are the parts that you added and where were they purchased from. 7 Jurock makes a number of windshields so I am not certain which one you are using. Thanks

  • @ralpheglass

    @ralpheglass

    2 ай бұрын

    7jRock Model B 22”, Aeroflow aerowings, Amazon winglets (watch installation video), Michelin road6 GT’s

  • @twanverbeek9015
    @twanverbeek90154 ай бұрын

    Hi i'm from the Netherlands. Nice video, I have a k1600B 2022 myself and i'm also struggling with the high speed instability. I already changed the windscreen for the vented Wunderlich version, but that did not make much of an improvements. Tires will be changed to Michelin Road 6 GT next week, because they are complete worn after 8500km. Which of the changes you made had the biggest impact on the instability improvements? Could you send me some pictures how you have mounted the winglets on the side of the bike. thanks, Twan

  • @ralpheglass

    @ralpheglass

    4 ай бұрын

    Hey Twan I’m actually working on a video right now explaining that. Sorry about your windshield, 7jrock was the best choice for me. Order of changes that I recommend 1. Tires 2. Windshield 3. Aeroflow wings 4. Winglets.

  • @ralpheglass

    @ralpheglass

    4 ай бұрын

    Winglets video is now up!!!

  • @alexklar8362
    @alexklar83625 ай бұрын

    I'm 6'2" have 2019 BGA never had a problem with wobble or air flow. Have bike well tuned. Been 155mph 2 up, perfect,but we don't were helmets much?

  • @ralpheglass

    @ralpheglass

    5 ай бұрын

    That’s good news Alex! I do recommend the helmets!! But hey! That’s your choice!!!

  • @alp3781
    @alp37814 ай бұрын

    I bought 18 GA, new and one of the issues was the wobble. I would not dare to ride between 2 heavy construction trucks. Also, bike was always steer a bit to the left. I wanted to love this bike and just had enough and sold it. BMW disappointed me after spending heavy on this bike. Luckily, someone really wanted mine and I lost very little on it. Went and got a new Goldwing Tour. I am sorry for not buying the wing sooner. Boy, an amazing machine to own. before anyone buys one, PLEASE try the GW Tour DCT or manual.

  • @ralpheglass

    @ralpheglass

    4 ай бұрын

    I’m not saying buyer beware of the grand America, just always be the best informed consumer possible. GW’s nice bikes for sure, but most of my bikes are black and Honda’s black is a little too 1970’s for me, also I prefer a quicker bike for my number 1.

  • @alp3781

    @alp3781

    4 ай бұрын

    @@ralpheglass Amen and ride safe.

  • @MkvanDalen

    @MkvanDalen

    3 ай бұрын

    Thanks for making this video and explaining everything so well, i love my 22GA but I have been experiencing the wobble around 70 on the highway and did not like it at all… I will get and install the winglets on Wednesday… I saw the windshield and will order it from jurock but where I can get the side deflectors?

  • @distancejunkiemonkey4491
    @distancejunkiemonkey4491Ай бұрын

    BMW is going to totally ignore you. Every manufacturer would totally ignore you on a safety problem. If they were to take your fix and implement it, they would have to retrofit every one of these bikes that they've sold, and that is just not gonna happen because they've told the consumers it's unsafe to write over 81 miles an hour with passenger and they speed limited to the 105 at the top end there you go problem solved no more money out of their pocket.

  • @OneDown5Up
    @OneDown5Up4 ай бұрын

    Interesting. I'm on a GTL and had experienced some instability at highway speeds. I switched the windscreen to the GT version (smaller) and it went away completely. I like the GT windscreen better overall, it's shaped differently and I can easily see over it, and I get much better airflow at lower speeds in hot weather. I would like to know the MFR of those winglets if you see this comment.

  • @ralpheglass

    @ralpheglass

    4 ай бұрын

    Order through Amazon App ‘motorcycle winglets’ around $30.00

  • @OneDown5Up

    @OneDown5Up

    4 ай бұрын

    @@ralpheglass Thank you for the reply! I might check them out, but I have a hard time believing the double sided tape would hold up under bad highway conditions (cross winds, truck wash, etc.).

  • @ralpheglass

    @ralpheglass

    4 ай бұрын

    @@OneDown5Up they don’t and I never said it does. Must bolt on!

  • @Jerome.Stocks
    @Jerome.Stocks4 ай бұрын

    I want to know where to mount the winglet’s. Your video doesn’t really show me.

  • @ralpheglass

    @ralpheglass

    4 ай бұрын

    I’m working on video that should be more helpful on where to place them

  • @ralpheglass

    @ralpheglass

    4 ай бұрын

    Video just posted!!!

  • @aircooledtwin8
    @aircooledtwin84 ай бұрын

    I have owned my K1600B for 3 years and have never experienced any instability even at 120mph plus. Fitted with footboards.

  • @ralpheglass

    @ralpheglass

    4 ай бұрын

    That’s wonderful news

  • @CactusJack252

    @CactusJack252

    3 ай бұрын

    That is because you don't have a huge trunk on the back

  • @bjrnarthur9272
    @bjrnarthur9272Ай бұрын

    If you plan to keep a bike in this class after the warranty time is ended then the only option is a goldwing

  • @ralpheglass

    @ralpheglass

    27 күн бұрын

    I’m not old enough for a goldwing!!! Maybe a rocket 3?

  • @barrytimm5497
    @barrytimm5497Ай бұрын

    Circumference of a circle is NOT 2 * pi * r^2. That is the AREA of a circle. The circumference is Pi * D.

  • @ralpheglass

    @ralpheglass

    27 күн бұрын

    C=2πr. I had added to comments after I watched it. Great observation! RG

  • @MyRiderBiboul57
    @MyRiderBiboul575 ай бұрын

    Bonjour, avec tous mes compliments pour ces explications, pouvez vous me donner les références des pièces à mettre en place, merci pour votre implication a résoudre ce problème bien connu sur ces modèles de motos

  • @ralpheglass

    @ralpheglass

    4 ай бұрын

    aeroflowscreens.com/product/k16-aerowings-17/

  • @ralpheglass

    @ralpheglass

    4 ай бұрын

    www.7jurock.com/

  • @ralpheglass

    @ralpheglass

    4 ай бұрын

    Motorcycle Winglet Carbon ABS Fiber Fairing Motorcycle Wing Aerodynamic Winglet Dynamic Spoiler Wings Universal Modification Accessory Motorcycle Wing Spoiler a.co/d/fJO0Ga4

  • @ralpheglass

    @ralpheglass

    4 ай бұрын

    And also Michelin road 6 GT’s

  • @gregmarshall7072
    @gregmarshall70725 ай бұрын

    Can you post the winglet part number?

  • @ralpheglass

    @ralpheglass

    4 ай бұрын

    Amazon app motorcycle winglets carbon look

  • @ralpheglass

    @ralpheglass

    4 ай бұрын

    Winglets video is up!!!

  • @TheKldeep04
    @TheKldeep042 ай бұрын

    this is the thing holding me back from buying this bike

  • @ralpheglass

    @ralpheglass

    2 ай бұрын

    Try an R1250RT excellent bike more options and lighter weight

  • @TheKldeep04

    @TheKldeep04

    2 ай бұрын

    @@ralpheglass have had goldwings and had a gtl like the looks of the B better. At 6'5 350 I tend to go for bigger bikes

  • @user-io2et5bv2s
    @user-io2et5bv2s2 ай бұрын

    Who or what is “Arrow”? 🤦🏻‍♂️

  • @ralpheglass

    @ralpheglass

    2 ай бұрын

    Hey user, two things one is a fairing product from a company called AeroFlow, the other is for aerodynamics of the K1600GA.

  • @ralpheglass
    @ralpheglass4 ай бұрын

    HEY😂😂😂😂 just posted new video for winglets installation!!! Hope this helps, those with questions email me at 413glass@gmail.com

  • @jusdsun8319
    @jusdsun83193 ай бұрын

    I dislike this video and it's content. You said you did "all the calculations" then right after stated "you didn't have the exact numbers". That doesn't make any sense. Why would BMW take your advice?

  • @ralpheglass

    @ralpheglass

    3 ай бұрын

    The exact numbers needed are measurements that are not published so my measurements are made from an assembled motorcycle (s) not an empty chassis attached to an alignment jig. A formula you can use for AOA calculations would be. ‘2{3.1419)R divided by 360’ . I do enjoy your comments and for a little more information this video has been viewed many times in Germany. If more contact is wanted please email me at 413glass@gmail.com thanks for your observations, RG

  • @ralpheglass
    @ralpheglass2 ай бұрын

    kzread.infoSBVno18RpSs?si=YA0XpFE-uTYuw9x-

  • @m.f.m.67
    @m.f.m.672 ай бұрын

    The front fairing on all four K1600 models is exactly the same. Therefore, your "aero" explanation makes no sense. If your explanation was accurate, ALL four models would exhibit the same wobble and instability, and would require the same fix, which they do not.

  • @ralpheglass

    @ralpheglass

    Ай бұрын

    I explained the change in angle of attack on b and GA’s with a positive aoa the fairings start to create lift. That only applies to B’s and GA’s

  • @johnpuerner8545
    @johnpuerner85456 ай бұрын

    Just buy a GTL. Problem solved.

  • @ralpheglass

    @ralpheglass

    5 ай бұрын

    No thanks!!

  • @jessealmanza7837

    @jessealmanza7837

    3 ай бұрын

    Too tall for me, Im only 5’6”. Lets fix these bikes intead.

  • @distancejunkiemonkey4491

    @distancejunkiemonkey4491

    Ай бұрын

    agreed, buying a new something that has to be fixed is a no go

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