In London you can only travel at 20 mph, get an electric pedal bike a decent one for £2500 with removal battery for charging in your apartment and you still save the £150/month Z1 to Z2 Oyster card. It’s a toy for the well off!

@StressKind

3 ай бұрын

like any BMW really...

Chad I feel like you get it. An electric motorcycle I don’t want for all the reasons you said but this I would love to have in the garage. It looks great, feels quality, has heaps of character and would be so fun bombing round a city or neighbourhood again for all the reasons you mentioned. I think it will sell really well too. Also to all those grisly comments, it’s not a motorcycle so don’t compare it to one. It’s not a Honda cb500x but around the city it looks 1000x better and would be more fun. Why so miserable and cynical? You don’t have to buy it.

@DanTube2010

5 ай бұрын

Are you buying one?

Being old and wealthy I'm going to buy one mainly as a talking point. Might use it occasionally on a sunny day.

Can you remove the battery for charging ? If not it fails as a city commuter, most people in cities live in flats ?

@simulacrae

4 ай бұрын

Batteries of that size weigh upwards of 30 kg, you really want to lug that up to your apartment?

@StressKind

3 ай бұрын

no you can't... otherwise, I'd be really tempted... I think there are scooters which split the battery into 2x20kg which is very manageable.

@lynlee142

2 ай бұрын

You can't, which is a deal breaker.

@darrengriffith9680

7 күн бұрын

@@StressKind You can in fact remove the batteries, although you can only charge one at a time with the supplied charger. Its quite obvious in the video also when he shows them as both batteries have quick disconnects and straps to pull them out with.

£8500 for a range like that? I half expected to see Krusty the clown riding it

Something of a security pain in the backside with enclosed wheels. Not easy to use a chain.

@NGT4LIFE

Ай бұрын

Put a chain around the front suspension or put the chain through the hole under the seat.

There is definetly the power for electric sports bikes. It's just range / charging network that is the issue. Energica make some wicked bikes.

Agree with other comments about wheels and removable battery, but also, as a commute/errends bike it needs luggage carrying capacity, a rack or something. Much as I like the idea of an electric town bike I'd still ride a Honda Cub in preference to this.

@903lew

5 ай бұрын

Oh I’d love for Honda to make a properly electrical Super Cub. With removable batteries like the Kawasaki it’d be amazing for the commute.

It might be £120 per month on PCP but you probably have to pay an initial £3,000 - £4,000 deposit first

So let's say you do decide to use it around London, how do you secure it? With solid lookingwheels and a very non conventional frame there appears to be very few/if any spots to chain it down. So it's getting nicked then... #london

Is the moped version just a restricted MC version with a single battery then?

Actually can see it fitting in perfectly as you described. But. It's so expensive. If I'm spending 8.5g on a commuter I'm probably spending 6.6g on a cb500x and riding to Lisbon with the spare 2g. Lisbon is a great city. Like it a lot but too much money. And as some others have said, how do I lock it up? But yes, that is a cool bike. Ride safe 👍

If there isn't some locking point that wasn't mentioned, couldn't one lock through the void under the front of the seat? As a former urban bicycle rider, locking through the wheel is not the best security. If they want it bad enough, they'll just take everything but the wheel, no?

When they don't sell and the deals come out I will pick one up for sure 😍😍

@DanTube2010

5 ай бұрын

I think BMW will scrap them before discounting.

You can’t even take the charger with you unless you want to carry around a massive box! And the 12V battery has to be charged separately?

The only thing that is really off putting is the price this bike is around 8500€ for the base MC version that has 6kw here in Sweden as we are given 3 versions a 3.7kW(Moped) 6kW(Light MC) and 11kW(MC) which means you almost get two KTM or two Kawasaki or two Suzuki or two Aprilia 125cc bike of the same price as the 11kW fully equipped version are😅

There is a mistake in the power values you posted it seems. It should be 15HP, 11kW.

Buy PCX penty of storage and weather protection, then do 200 + miles for about a tenner. Then buy another before 125s are banned. You'll still have spent less!

Didn't I already see this guy review this bike on Bikeworld? If its anything like the comments section there, everyone thinks it's terrible (except the reviewer)

j.juan brakes are a bit of a cheeky move by BMW at this price with this kind of range......

I could see this being great if you work less then 5 mile to and from work. Personally I have the chance to toy with one. It’s an adrenaline rush. It’s capable of whip lash. Price is a bit steep tho $6,000 should be a solid price point tho. Light enough to load in a pickup truck and take with you on vacation for fun local rides. There is great potential for this and not having a heavy bike to load and unload. Personally I would buy one. I have bed ramps. Could load this solely by yourself. No need for another set of hands. It’s simple has a reverse to get in and out of truck beds alone lightweight. Maybe low range for most people but as a cruiser around town on vacations will save you money in gas. To me that’s a win. Would I leave it unattended probably not. 99% in the bed locked up but this is a first step and chance for a giant leap if priced right. For having a smaller light bike to take locally

125 equivalent with 40lb/ft needs more power? Energy density I get, but power doesn't seem to be an issue with electrics. I maintain that the key to e-motorcycles of this "size" will be bike-sharing services.

Looks really cool, I like it. Downside is the price and range. It’s a hard sell at the price, we will see if it sells. The monkey sells for 5k out the door, this is larger. Would be better if it was more like 7k out the door instead of 9k.

You might be glad to have an oyster cars when this gets stolen. How are you supposed to chain it up with solid wheels?

@jasperkoster4499

4 ай бұрын

Bmw has a really good alarm system my s1000r alarm goes off just by tillting it

@Steve-motorcycles

4 ай бұрын

@@jasperkoster4499 you would leave your s1000r on side street in London all day with out it being chained up somehow?

Its completely MadeIn India by TVS Motors, with significant contribution to R&D & platform development.

@903lew

5 ай бұрын

TVS, much like Bajaj and RE, are really doing some quality stuff these days. Of all the bikes on my test drive-list I think about 60% are now Made in India.

The price makes it pointles.

@dynomike4142

3 ай бұрын

Agree. The electric bikes and cars are silly. Until the cars are half off and bikes triple the range I'm buying gas motors.

Cheaper brand equivalent to this would be awesome.

I can see that selling really well , perhaps not as well as a Turd flavour mars bar but who know eh !

It's cool yeah but 8 and a half grand for that is just dumb. Especially when you can get a super soco TC max for 4599 that is just as fast and has better range

Aside from looks, it is hard to justify this against a 125cc. I’ve had both a Vespa Elettrica and a modern Vespa 125cc. The Vespa 125cc is around half the price of this BMW, has built in secure storage, and has averaged 150mpg over the 5000 miles I’ve had it. The emissions are non existent on an electric, but they’re also tiny on a 125cc - so there’s not much of a gain in that regard, and a 125cc is still massively more eco friendly than most cars. The range on this BMW is quoted at 95km, or 59 miles. 20-80% charging represents 60% or a range of 35 miles, and it takes 2.5 hours of “fast” charging to get that?

Ach, how I’d want Honda to just release a proper electrical super cub. 60 miles of actual range is enough, the form factor is almost made for EV batteries and I’m sure they’d get the price closer to what I’d like to pay. Would be great for the commute and save the miles on my ‘proper’ bike (the capacity of which I use five times a year).

150 in tube around London or 120 in this around london plus the tension of thieves😂

Its a ' fun' idea at a 'cost' with ' limited ' application which is ' difficult' to secure. So a classic product from the young BMW marketing ' wet dream ' people.

Frankly the range is pathetic an e-bicycle would be a better choice

@LittleSweed

5 ай бұрын

Yea a premium E-Bike is definitely a better choice over this BMW.

@patrickvolvos4010

3 ай бұрын

Yes esp if the law was changed d to allow e bicycles to keep up with traffic 30- 40mph when needed and slower as needed

@youngwill6213

2 ай бұрын

Doesn’t it get 60 miles? Bout what a 125 gets on American roads.

@alferro3149

2 ай бұрын

You will never need 90 kms in town. Not even 30. I live in the countryside and I rarely need more than 30. Perfect range and I don't want the additional weight for something I don't use.

I like it but prefer the ce04

So it's got 45 mile to 60 mile range ... that's a waste of time ... 😅

@seefy22

5 ай бұрын

Remember when phone batteries used to last nearly a week.. now we charge them daily.

@jeremiaas15

5 ай бұрын

@@seefy22 Well, at least cellphones don't recquire a heated garage and let you go to the shops after work.

@jameshealy4594

5 ай бұрын

@seefy22 You mean when they had B&W screens the size of a postage stamp, no cameras let alone internet capacity, and were the size of battery powered shaver? ​Turns out daily charging isn't that big a deal (still wouldn't buy this thing, just saying).

It's cool but for that price you can get cooler. Probably some suits will buy it to show off how much money they can stupidly throw away...

That would be stolen in 1 day in London.

In the real world, how many people can afford one of those. Interesting arithmetic, comparing it to an Oyster card, most of the world does not have an Oyster card or get free charging.

£10k you would have to be crazy

Theres so many bad car drivers out there, isnt a silent bike a bit dangerous in that respect, espeically in cities like london.

9500 lol

This is a very fun concept, but it simply doesn't work. These get stolen so quick and easy, trust me.... I got mine stolen 2 days after the purchase. Due to their size 2 men can simply toss it on a mini van and vanish. IF however you commute and you go from home parking space to work parking space, it's okay.

Theft in cities is rife and this is one such bike I can see being placed on the high risk list due to the styling/BMW badge and the fact it's expensive. I'm not sure how you'd chain it up to prevent theft due to the wheels. This bike unfortunately fits the "toy" of the rich than the average biker. An electric bike is far better value and you can bring it inside a building off the street completely out of sight of thieves.

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0-60mph time? I like it, it has a monkeybike look to it.

I think it's really good 😉

9:21 So it's marketed towards cyclists?

BMW complaining that the market is not ready, no, they are not making practical bikes for the market, it is simple really, the brand which has realistic range, real world top speed and a good price point for your average rider wins. Truth be told bikers rarely ever buy new anyway, those who do are usually late boomers or people with disposable income later in life, for the rest of us we choose bikes based on value for money.

Lost me with the price 😂

The idea is nice, but it is more expensive than a 390 adventure, a KLR 650. Grom and others. All smarter choices. A ct125 is 125mpg.

Well, you did your best trying to big it up but frankly it's a joke!

Rich girls toy!

This will be another EV fail because it just costs far too much however good it is. - after you have spent another £xxxx for a comfortable seat!! A quality 125 scooter is £3500 with loads of cheaper alternatives.

No standard J1773 charging. No thanks!

Its a no from me..

Too heavy for motorhomes

More riding, less talking

The fact he pars off the poor range with "iTs jUsT a ScOoTer" is dumb when most scooters in the UK are sold to deliver drivers. Needs to be 120 mile range minimum

E motorised either car or bike, isn't the way forward. Hydrogen power, maybe. Not elec.

@00andrew000

3 ай бұрын

Wrong

That looks more horrible than the last one

Considering that you could buy a brand new MT07, or a high CC Scooter, or basically any other mid class bike, the price for this 75 km range junk can only be considered a bad joke. Who in the world would actually consider buying this??

Loud pipes save lives. The price will relegate this into the category of old man with Motorhome’s toy. So you go to all the trouble of designing a cool and fun electric scooter for young people then release it at a price that only old folk can afford to pay?

What a horrible fail! 😂

There are much better electric motorcycles on the market, this isn't the one.

@whitehorace8715

7 күн бұрын

What's better alternatives

Don’t matter how good it is far too much money and I always will be petrol scooter until it’s cheaper enough to buy

You sound like they’ve paid you for this review. Yes, it’s different. It’s too expensive, ludicrous range.

Looks like a piece of garbage

£8,500 lmao. It's a toy. Someone with that money to blow on this won't use it to "commute" in the city. They're far too rich for that.......

Pointless overpriced consumer tat. Ideal for gen Z social media influencers 😂 If this is what is representative of what will be available once ICE engines are banned, I’ll be nursing my bikes until fuel is no longer available, the bikes are unrepairable or I kick the bucket!

Motorcycling is all about adventure freedom exploring which involves riding hundreds of miles. Electric motorcycles are extremely limited in range and lack character.

inb4 the boomers starting crying about EVs in the comments

@RufusCapstick

5 ай бұрын

Yes because the purchase cost, range and charging times, charging infrastructure are all comparable to ice vehicles. And people wonder why boomers say younger generations are dumb 😂

No it’s a fail. Ugly, expensive, shit range.

This is a pointless waste of cash. If I am ever to buy an electric bike it needs to accelerate like a missile and have some decent range.

~ 75 miles range and belt drive...no thanks.