🟣 Make sure you join the Created Tech discord: crtd.tech/discord

just quick note that cycles renderer can render utilizing both CPU and GPU, we're currently only have CPU support (no metal support) even on Apple silicon version of Blender. GPU render will be supported on Blender version 3.1. Im excited to see how well it will perform.

Blender 3.1 is to introduce native Metal support in Cycles. I wonder if you could get a beta release? This is the one where Apple is helping the Blender folks.

@zeliglim778

2 жыл бұрын

3.1 beta is out, nothing added yet and definitely not metal

@rtsstream

2 жыл бұрын

The metal api branch hasnt dropped yet.

@scaryenchanter

2 жыл бұрын

@@zeliglim778 there’s only seems alpha of 3.1....and according to most of info yet......yes there’s nothing new

@totheknee

2 жыл бұрын

@@zeliglim778 alpha only, beta isn't out yet

@appalling22

2 жыл бұрын

Apple have submitted patches but only the very first step of many before you will see any perf difference. Looking forward to it though!

Loving these Created Tech videos that are really pushing the new M1 MacBooks.. This is how real world tests should be done ❤️👍

Whats the limiting factor if ram and cpu are not being maxed out? Also would be nice to see these tests on the maxed out 14inch.

Nice video!! Very helpful, thank you💪🏼🔥

I'm so happy, I'm early and seeing these videos just makes me so happy, keep up the good work and keep being ur self.

What version of Blender did you use, 2.93.5 or 3.1 Alpha?

Oh! I see you were indeed stuck on the cpu with cycles! I expect that to change in a couple of months as the fruit of Apples and Blender’s collaboration. You’ll need to redo this then. :)

@erichealy9973

2 жыл бұрын

I hope so

Excited every time I see a vid drop!

Right Speaker isn't working on my MacBook Air M1 after macOS Monetary update, is there any fix?

Thanks for the content! I would very much like to see an analysis of the new macs for programmers

Could you please do similar tests with an external 4K display attached? Especially interested in change of fan behavior. Thx ✌🏻

damn you are releasing fire 🔥 vids lately

Blender might be optimized for Apple Silicon but it still doesn’t support Metal API and just using CPU all the time. So, it’s better if you test again when it uses GPU.

@kunemann

2 жыл бұрын

metal support is coming to blender in 3.1 :)

@rajeshkumarm2315

2 жыл бұрын

Do Eevee use gpu for rendering in M1?

@kunemann

2 жыл бұрын

@@rajeshkumarm2315 yes

@peterjackson5812

2 жыл бұрын

@@kunemann Yes and 3.1 Alpha is released but no Metal support yet. Just tested out yesterday.

@kunemann

2 жыл бұрын

@@peterjackson5812 That is correct and from what I’ve read it is intended this way. All new features will be implemented there over time. It’s just the very beginning of 3.1

What happens to the menu bar in fullscreen? Drives me nuts you not using Blender in fullscreen ...

Can you make a test on after effects with lots of layers and effects? I hear it now has an m1 optimized version in beta. That would be so helpful.

@vadimrzhavin3740

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, and it would be great to share the project, so we can compare with our machines

Thanks for the video. I'm about to buy a powerful laptop for vfx editing, 3D modeling and stuff like that... but I want to make a choice between the 14 inch MacBook pro and the Lenovo Legion 5 pro (RTX 3070). Any help please 🙏🏾

Why did you not perhaps do a custom FAN setting on the M1 Pro to see what sort of temps one could get with a custom set profile on the fan speeds. I have Mac Fan Control, and I've sent my manually to just under audible. (3500-4200rpm)

i wanna know the performance when editing in the viewport display, does it lagg?

yo love ur vids

Sort of sad that there aren’t any good bindings for metal so that this could be ported over. As right now it’s still using gl and that performs not really good.

Pretty interesting results

I'd like to see the new M1 vs Asus G14 with 3060 Blender test. 3060 with Optix on that machine is insanely fast...

Mantaflow simulator won’t work on my 14 MBP ! Help !Any ideas or work around?

Did Apple finally decide to play nice with open UI software and allow you to use the GPU?

Ça you make a test on parallels desktop with power bi desktop app between M1 M1 pro M1 max and different ram config?

I'll order my new mbp in black friday. It will be entry level 14"m1pro or the next one. The real question is 16GB or 32GB. All I'd need is to someone hook same models with different amount of RAM to 4k/5k monitor and fire up Blender's Eevee Splash Fox test and tell if there is difference in fps. Just comparing the RAM amount, with hi-res monitor. Could somebody do that? (PLEASE!) Has somebody already done this?

How much time it takes to render the Ian Hubert's scene in cycles please share

Please do a comparison between a custom 2000$ PC and the base model M1 pro MacBook pro

I wonder how 16" compares to 14" when it comes to thermals I assume the 16" be better in that regard, but how much better?

When rendered on GPU, it takes a lot less time and more efficient than on CPU. As of now, blender still doesn't have GPU option for rendering on mac. Hope it comes soon and waiting to see how the m1 pro/max gpu performs.

@smashedlegends

2 жыл бұрын

Of course Blender does not have GPU rendering. Graphic cards on macs always suck! All of them!

@seklerek

2 жыл бұрын

@@smashedlegends that's such a 2019 take

@hrsror

2 жыл бұрын

@@smashedlegends apple has contacted blender about this, and apple subscribed a highest paid monthly donation and they'll give blender their some resources for development. Most probably We will use gpu rendering soon.

@m-stat9

2 жыл бұрын

@@smashedlegends wow, you are a dumb Wintel loser, huh? The new GPUs ROCK and need far less energy than your Intel and nvidia crap.

@michaelspraggins5246

2 жыл бұрын

@asiri maduranga Benchmarks put them being very comparable to Nvidia 3080 laptop cards. High power 3080s at 160~W are still faster, but most laptops are in the 100-130W range and neck and neck to the M1 Max 32 core, which uses much less power and can maintain that performance on battery. You'll pry my desktop from my cold, dead hands, but the new Macbooks are head and shoulders above other things on the market right now.

Blender doesn’t use Metal right now so it’s all CPU. You graphics is just to run the OS. Switch to Blender 3.1 for Metal when it’s available and redo these tests. Thanks.

@xinaesthetic

2 жыл бұрын

Eevee uses GPU (also, of course, it’s not like the editors and preview windows are software-rendered; that would be…. very bad). But yeah, this is good news about proper Metal support coming.

Thanks for your video! I am interested in comparison to M1 (MacMini, Macbook air etc.). With the same scenes here...

So if this is the base Pro, I wonder what the same tests with max 32 core and 64GB would perform..

Anything on eGPUs?

Quite smooth? Have you tried it on a true video card? I have better result on a laptop of 5 years ago…

I noticed your recent videos have the voice a bit quiet compared to other videos, might be worth a recheck ;)

Thanks a lot for doing these tests with Blender! It would be really interesting too see these tests compared with a model that uses 32 GB RAM. Will Blender then still use about 13 GB? Or will it use more, because there's much more RAM available? In case it will use more RAM on a 32 GB RAM model, does that improve the performance a lot? As others I already said, it would also be interesting to re-do the tests when Blender supports Metal, which is planned for Blender 3.1.

@tonyburzio4107

2 жыл бұрын

Have you tried the alpha release of 3.1.0?

@MegaChriz

2 жыл бұрын

@@tonyburzio4107 No, but I don't have a M1 Mac yet. My Mac at home is too old to run that Blender version (MacBook Pro from 2009, max OS is 10.11), but I could try a 2019 21.5" intel iMac at work. It wouldn't help answer my question above though, because that one has 16 GB RAM.

this version is using the CPU so cant determine what it can do... you should make one more once metal support is added

Blender 3.1 Alpha is available TODAY 💥 Edit: No M1 GPU support on CUDA yet tho. 😢

@little_fluffy_clouds

2 жыл бұрын

CUDA is an NVIDIA-only technology, it would not be supported on M1. If you meant Metal, then the newest versions of Blender 3.2.x now support it on the M1 GPU.

Did anyone know if blender workes on the smallest MacBook Air with 8 ram and M1 to?

My desire is to know whether it gets hot in the bottom while doing these heavy tasks or not. So it doesn't get hot in my lap

Are all free addons for blender on windows free also on MacOS? Can someone answer

Not now, but in 2022 with the developers upgrading their softwares to M1 chips, I think it’s going to be a game changer, rendering on a laptop without charger

@psclip3309

9 ай бұрын

2023 now..maybe in 2077😂..i really appriciate battery life on MacBook is a huge deal Atleast same performance with rtx

@cdlikecdrom

9 ай бұрын

@@psclip3309 I hope to retire then!

When I tried rendering with cycles on my M1 Mac mini last month, it wouldn’t use the GPUs. I suspect your cycles may have been using the CPUs, too

@rajeshkumarm2315

2 жыл бұрын

Do Eevee use gpu for rendering?

@tonyburzio4107

2 жыл бұрын

There is an alpha release for Blender that uses Metal, Version 3.1.0. This is the one Apple is helping to port.

@slowercuber7767

2 жыл бұрын

@@tonyburzio4107 thanks! and excellent! I'll try it out in a week or three.

@gabrielangel1996

2 жыл бұрын

@@tonyburzio4107 there isn't, metal is still not supported

@slowercuber7767

2 жыл бұрын

@@rajeshkumarm2315 Yes eevee uses the GPUs on my M1 Mini and no (or at least very little) CPU. I just ran a simple test and it looked like cycles seemed be using the CPUs heavily and using the GPUs a little, but not sure (other apps are loaded on the mini). I was using 2.93.0. Once my MacBook MAX arrives, I'll download the latest Apple ARM Blender and post what I find with it.

blender: 72p@10fps Created Tech: so its not as smooth as the other test files out there

Great video, expecting a Premiere Pro video as well.

I want to know how it runs cinema 4 d with octane engine

Will 32Gb of RAM be much better？

Guys please help im about to purchase 16 M1 Pro, and for 3d beginner do you think 16gb of ram could be enough ? my budget can afford 32gb but im afraid im not gonna use it

@SaWIVB7

2 жыл бұрын

and im afraid of progressing too fast and then i need to upgrade 🥲

I need to buy m1pro very soon now. Has anybody compared eevee rendering between 16GB ram & 32GB ram with 4-5k monitor used with Blender? Please make the comparison! All comparison are pretty much about entry level vs. maxed out, like anybody would choose between the ends and nothing between?

@AdamariMedia

2 жыл бұрын

I would love that video too do t know what would be best

@jahmazon4665

2 жыл бұрын

Same here I’m looking fwd to purchase one soon Would love to see the comparison… In meantime I’ll search if anyone has the video out there

@tokelahti

2 жыл бұрын

I could post the fps with eeveeSplashFox with my new 32GB-version, which I purchased. Still takes about 5 weeks to get it. I might post the results to MR forum, since I haven't done youtube videos. I have 5k2k monitor and another 2.5k monitor to test it with.

Хочу покрутить эти модели на своём пк, можно ссылку, пожалуйста? I want to spin these models on my PC, can I have a link, please?

Where did you got all these project files ??? 🧐

@jin_cotl

Жыл бұрын

Google mate

can you make a test of blender with different MacBook pro models

Can you compare with MacBook M1 should be pretty close

Handsome Smitty was here...Discord (ant) as always...

GPU BMW Test about M1 ultra 48gb on Blender and OctaneX, please! Thanks a lot!

I can't understand why when I try to render the image it quits in Cycles with CPU and Metal! Does anyone can help with this shit????

@jin_cotl

Жыл бұрын

Ask Reddit idk or search it up

10:08 for Spring Scene??? My $1100 Gigabyte Aero with and old i7 10870h and a RTX3060P takes 01:55!!

Please test this with Blender 3.1 Alpha too.

Do with a M1 max 16" MacBook pro

is it work well whit photoshop :D i think not that bad at all

Hi, do you know if mac M1 32gb gpu needs a graphic driver? Like install some Nvidia or Radeon app?

WOW!

how does Blender look on fullscreen?? There's not a single shot in a whole video when app is in fullscreen mode

@jin_cotl

Жыл бұрын

Same but full screen

@jin_cotl

Жыл бұрын

They just didn’t disable the dock, but it looks exactly the same

I would say its okay-ish....not that crazy performance. Will wait for the real metal support.

@Andrew-tl9gk

2 жыл бұрын

lol did you compare to high end gaming laptops that have the best most expensive graphic cards? Its better than them while keeping cool and quite and not sucking out the battery...

@xinaesthetic

2 жыл бұрын

@@Andrew-tl9gk right, but there may be quite a few metal / unified memory related optimisations still on the cards. We’ll see how much better it gets. May be possible to GPU accelerate significant parts of Cycles. I dunno. (Edit: just saw another comment that apparently Metal Cycles is indeed in the pipeline).

@salsta292

2 жыл бұрын

@@Andrew-tl9gk keep in mind it’s the base line M1 pro chip not the top of the line M1 max which has twice as many gpu cores

@screpkavpeske2952

2 жыл бұрын

@@Andrew-tl9gk rtx 2070 mobile. render fox for 44 second. m1 - 5 minets map its 5-6 time slower and price for rtx mobile about 40% less

@Zerotwostudio

2 жыл бұрын

​@@Andrew-tl9gk No, why you assumed I compare it with a desktop? That was a laptop to begin with. Not a desktop.

Hey, Also have a 14“ MacBook Pro m1 pro. 16gb RAM and 1TB. I think my battery life ist not that good as everyone says. I use teams (as pwa), slack, outlook, safari, chrome, figma. Most of them are open at same time. I have teams calls at about 1 hour in the morning. And I got a battery life from about 6-7 hours with that stuff. Is that normal or is there something wrong ?

How much better will the Max chip with 32 gb of ram work?

@andrewholland21

2 жыл бұрын

Significantly. Keep in mind blender will be faster in general once Metal is supported.

@kumoitojp

2 жыл бұрын

@@andrewholland21 Thank you!

On my M1 Max 32 core, 32 GB memory I get 2:15.04 minutes for Spring render in Blender 3.1.

@A.L.Davis4

Жыл бұрын

@Archmechanic Those are milliseconds at the end...

please do a video with After Effects as well

I have these specs I actually 1TB of storage, but my Blender is running quite slow with having loading after ever move, dont know why...

@batmanonholiday4477

2 жыл бұрын

hi, have you solved your issue? do you also have 16 ram or more and it is still laggy?

@reckoner8210

Жыл бұрын

are you sure yours has does not have 8c cpu and 14c gpu

would have been interesting to see how apple performed in GPU cycles mode. The barbershop takes 10 mins on a gtx 1070.

Question for Blender pros. I'm a concept artist, most of the time I use photoshop and some zbrush and I'll start using Blender shortly. I'll be getting a 14" MBP, I was thinking to upgrade its RAM to 32, would that be helpful for using the programs or I'm good with 16 GB of RAM?

@MrMaumzinha22

2 жыл бұрын

I have the same doubt, what you decided?

@batmanonholiday4477

2 жыл бұрын

man, blender is super ram hungery, i hope you went for at least 32 gb of ram if not more

I have that the charger is real dirty

Glad I got the 64 gb ram 16 inch laptop

I’d be happy to see an Affinity Photo HDR and/or Pano merge! OK, I’m kidding…kind of. 😃 Great content, enjoying following along!

So max pro with 32 gigs would be ideal 👀

more heavy gpu 3d tests but on the max

why I cant install 3.1 it give me error (GHOST_ContextCGL::metalInit: newLibraryWithSource:options:error: failed!)

I don't really get the comparison to the 13" M1 Macbook Pro. Like, of course this is going to be better, but I don't think people serious about 3D modeling and rendering in Blender are going to be coming from a 13" MBP. Maybe compare it to the 2020 16" MBP with Intel i9 and AMD 5600M? A lot of 3D artists use that model for mobile work.

AFTER EFFECTS PLEASE 64 GB max M1

I WAS wondering

it's the BASE chip and it's a laptop... it is really good. I

Runs surprisingly well! What about Unreal Engine 5?

@zeliglim778

2 жыл бұрын

Not supported, running th0rough rosatta, quite bad

@asdbef3667

2 жыл бұрын

Running well? You delusional apple fanboy

@junechevalier

2 жыл бұрын

@@asdbef3667 idk about you but I don't personally work on my scene with rendered view? There's other workaround. And even if you tried that on Windows laptop, you'd still get those choppy fps. Even those running on 3080s

@asdbef3667

Жыл бұрын

@WAR WOLF STUDIO bunch of delusional apple troll

Should of bought the m1 max with 32 core gpu and 26 core cpu and 64 gb ram

I‘d like to see Minecraft with shaders

For comparison, I rendered the mouse scene on RTX 2060 (desktop, 6GB) and it took about 10.5 seconds on Blender 2.93, and 17 seconds on Blender 3.0 Beta.

@batmanonholiday4477

2 жыл бұрын

is it better in the viewport as well?

I've never owned an Apple product before so this MacBook Pro M1 was a risky buy for me. I was unaware that trackpad support for windows laptops is non-existant which is odd because the moment i used the macbook for blender it just works and feels amazing using the trackpad (not as good as a mouse but its good for working on the fly). There is a patch currently to add support for trackpad gestures for windows (D7660 GHOST: Add support for precision touchpad gestures on Windows) which i beleive is JUST now being implimented into blender 2 years later..

@batmanonholiday4477

2 жыл бұрын

the viewport performance looked unusable in the splash fox test. does it get better with 32 or 64gb ram? do you have an experience in animating high poly models? i am considering maxed out m1 max vs custom made laptop (pc sepcialist) with rtx 3080 and i7 or i9..

@Nyubug

2 жыл бұрын

@@batmanonholiday4477 You need to consider forum factor, heat, etc. I'd like to point out an issue with the new M1 MacBook pro. The screen is so fucking close to the keyboard when it shuts that anything on the keyboard will be permanently stuck in the screen. Take that warning if you do buy one. You need to enable metal under the rendering device as well. I haven't done any high poly modeling I'm sure that would be fine in solid mode but material preview is of course a struggle depending on the size of the viewport and resolution of it. Sorry I wish I could compare it to a system with 3080 but I don't have one ATM.. blender 3.3.0 has trackpad support for windows (tested with magic trackpad 2) and it works exactly the same as Mac os. I've never worked on heavy scenes so 16gb has always been plenty for me but if you work on scenes with lots of textures etc more ram is better.

@batmanonholiday4477

2 жыл бұрын

@@Nyubug cheers mate, i know that issue with the screen in other laptops, it has always infuriated me because over time the keyboard impresses itself and damages the screen, only solution for me has been to put a microfibre napkin between the two to soften the pressure. I might buy both m1 max and that pc specialist, see which one is better, make a review, and return the inferior machine.

@Nyubug

2 жыл бұрын

@@batmanonholiday4477 Yep makes me mad i paid good money for this laptop just to get stuff stuck in the screen, and I'm not about to dish out a bunch of money for a screen replacement over a little dot stuck in my screen... Even the key-caps leave marks on the screen when you shut the laptop you mentioned a microfiber napkin maybe ill buy one but im afraid it will damage the screen because of how small the tolerance is.. BTW I just found out rn that the magic trackpad 2 on windows blender 3.3.0 can't right click drag.... Which is a bummer because that's used for Lazy Connect and a lot more shortcuts in the node editors.. let me know if that works on the windows laptop if it even has double press right click.

@batmanonholiday4477

2 жыл бұрын

@@Nyubug cant right clock drag, crazy... yeah, my buy is gonna be still in 3-4 four months or so, so maybe such issues will be resolved by then, hopefully.

04:22 It's Geometry Nodes not Modes

Wow this is awful. The Lenovo laptop with 1650ti is plowing through that Cycles scene like it's nothing, and it costs 10 times less

@batmanonholiday4477

2 жыл бұрын

do you think the viewport performance with a m1 max with 64 ram is gonna be better and competitive with new ryzen 9 or 2th gen laptop i9 or i7 also with 32-64 gb? i wonder if the problem here is ram.

its not in power tho.

with CPU only rendering my PC took 3 min and 31 sec for that Spring Blender cycle. I guess it's good enough

@stefanoferrari5619

2 жыл бұрын

Can i ask you which CPU do you have?

@manjotsingh4834

2 жыл бұрын

@@stefanoferrari5619 5950x

@stefanoferrari5619

2 жыл бұрын

@@manjotsingh4834 very nice cpu, my i5 6600k took 30 minutes 😳 I also have a Surface Pro 4, it was half way at 30 minutes. I'm really thinking about sending both to retirement.

@manjotsingh4834

2 жыл бұрын

@@stefanoferrari5619 What kid of GPU do you have? If you have decent Nvidia, then you're set as you can use CUDA to your advantage for rendering, Trust me they do it faster than any processor.

@stefanoferrari5619

2 жыл бұрын

@@manjotsingh4834 nah i have a GTX970, I didn't complete the rendering with CUDA but it seemed almost the same. The pc is almost 6 years old so i think it's normal.

I want to learn that program. I’d love to just do 3d models to help act as a reference for my artwork. I did learn Maya in its infancy but i didn’t take to the animation . I love the idea of 3D modeling though. This program is on my wish list for my new M1pro

@f6dee

2 жыл бұрын

its free

@sylvainswift3234

2 жыл бұрын

Just do it. As you already have knowledge, you'll quickly acquire great skills in Blender and you won't regret it. This software is a pearl, and I'll never have enough time to think the creators and developers of this soft. Enjoy!

@JanineMKartist

2 жыл бұрын

@@sylvainswift3234 Is the M1pro with maxed cpu gpu and ram enough ? I didn’t get the Max. I’ll need to get a 3 button mouse too. Don’t think the Magic Mouse has that.

@sylvainswift3234

2 жыл бұрын

@@JanineMKartist of course, you'll have a lot of fun before you see the limits... not even talking about the upcoming collaboration between the Blender Foundation and Apple (you can be sure they'll give us - thanks to Metal - a killer solution). Not sure the Magic Mouse has one; however, I think it's not the good mouse to use with Blender (and maybe other software!). Pretty mouse but not convenient for long hours of designing, in my view ;-). I'm using a Logitech MX Master, I find it perfect (not expensive, accurate, heavy enough, cordless but easy to plug-in with a simple USB cable). But anyone will give you another advice because a mouse must rest your wrist while matching the shape of your hand of course! But check the Logitech range, safe choice if I can give you one advice.

@sylvainswift3234

2 жыл бұрын

@@JanineMKartist sorry I can't read your last message here. Only a part of it in the notification tiny window... and I just can see the beginning of the sentence... Apologies for not answering you then!

Every time you switched to Activity Monitor and I see all those useless Adobe "helper" apps wasting memory (when no adobe apps are even open), I get kind of angry. LOL.

- 10 mins on M1 Pro - 7:20 on my iMac 27" Intel i9 on CPU render - 4:20 on my Dell Alienware on GPU (RTX 3080ti) So, still a long way to go before M1 really cuts it against current options.

this video inspired me to get an m1 pro which, after a year and some months it suddenly smelled burnt and shut down a couple of minutes after starting up running only finder. the motherboard was diagnosed burnt, the repair is half the price i payed for the computer, this is the most expensive computer i've bought and it is the fastest to die out, really dissapointing :/ @apple

Hi guys! Can someone help me? I'm really undecided, I want to buy a top pc to make highly professional renderings and animations, without hours of waiting ahaah, for work and I don't know if I have to choose an assembled or one of the M1 pro or max (I come from the world of apple). Thank you all!

@batmanonholiday4477

2 жыл бұрын

what did you decide in the end? having a similar dilemma . considering the mobility bonus of a laptop

@Delouser69

Жыл бұрын

Same

Why does every KZreadr use the same backdrop? Lol

Redo the test with blender 3.1, the alpha was just released! (SUPPORTING THE M1 CHIPS)

@gabrielangel1996

2 жыл бұрын

There isnt any suport for metal in cycles 3.1 yet

@saranciuc7717

2 жыл бұрын

@@gabrielangel1996 Huh? as far as I remember they said will introduces it in 3.1

@gabrielangel1996

2 жыл бұрын

@@saranciuc7717 there is nothing new in blender 3.1 yet.

@andrewholland21

2 жыл бұрын

@@saranciuc7717 they said they will slowly introduce that stuff. Hoping beginning of next year. Maybe a Christmas present.