Blade and Sorcery's FINAL Update | The End of a VR Titan

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This is Blade and Sorcery, one of the most popular Virtual Reality (VR) fighting games on the market - and unfortunately it is dying this year. Today we will look at the reasons behind this decision for the developers to end support, what this game signifies to the community, and what the future holds for the VR industry.
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For more information on the 1.0 Update and what it means for Blade and Sorcery, you can read this post from the developers:
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Blade and Sorcery's FINAL Update | The End of VR Titan

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  • @TheBaron
    @TheBaronАй бұрын

    Hey, Baron from Warpfrog here! Thanks for making this video, Dizzy. I remember you asking about that stuff, so it's cool to see the video now, and thanks for including the context form our chat. Yeah after 5 years WIP it's mad to think of a world without B&S active development! You said it in the video, but to reiterate, 1.0 marks the point that we consider the game "done" but it doesn't mean we would never touch it again as there will surely be patches and so forth, but it would be considered the last major update. After this point any updates we do would be for fixing or stabilizing the game instead of adding content, so there would be no more heavy handed changes that would break mods going forward, etc. This means hopefully 1.0 (or 1.2, 1.2, whatever) will bet he best shape the game can be in for new players coming into the game and for modders/regular players who can mod without worrying about the next update breaking their mods. In the past, updates have usually been new features added to the game engine or new content. With 1.0 we wanted to finish with a bang, so the 1.0 update is like a new game dropping on top of the old game engine. From a studio / marketing / team sanity perspective it's completely nuts and why it's taking so long to finish, but we really, really wanted to make this one special for the final major update. 😄 What I really wanted to comment on though, is for anyone wondering why not keep developing B&S forever because there is so much more that could be added (which is the gift/curse of the game being a sandbox simulation!). The behind-the-scenes is that we have really hit a wall with Thunder Road, which is what we use to make B&S. Kospy was a first time rookie developer when he started coding B&S, and then we added a bunch of other devs contributing to the code, so after 5 years of crazy spaghetti code it has become a huge pain to work with Thunder Road and even changing or adding the smallest thing takes FOREVER to do. You change one thing and the game breaks in ten other ways, so you dev something for one day and then spend 10 days fixing the thing that broke. This basically means we hit a productivity ceiling with Thunder Road, so we would love to move on to Thunder Road 2 (for our sanity if nothing else!), and make a new game on this lovely engine which will be so much faster and more pleasant, and it will raise the ceiling on what we can achieve. It's a bit like how games go Morrowind, Oblivion, Skyrim instead of just adding infinite expansion packs or updates to Morrowind. They are all RPGs in the same world but sometimes you gotta brush off the canvas so to go higher on the next game with the experience you learned on the last game. If you are unfamiliar with how game development works or what I mean by "spaghetti code", here is a visual example - smartgrowth.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/street-grids.jpg If you look at the city planning and roads layout in places like Tunis or Paris, these are places where civilization had roads grow organically around the population as the city grew over many centuries. But compared to New York which is a more modern city, there was all the knowledge and foresight of modern city planning at the time, so the layout is a nice and clean grid style. So in any city you can ultimately get to where you wanna go, but in Tunis you are going go through a maze of streets and backroads first. This would be like ThunderRoad! So with ThunderRoad 2 we would have all the benefit of 5 years development in B&S and a chance to rewrite with less spaghetti code and iron out some long nagging issues. This means development of game 2 can be faster, more efficient and more ambitious. Cheers, everyone!

  • @dizdimension

    @dizdimension

    Ай бұрын

    Thanks so much, Baron! I wouldn't have been able to make this video with out you and your awesome team. You've done a great service to the VR community. Can't wait to see what you guys cook up in the future.

  • @Tony-tx6ml

    @Tony-tx6ml

    Ай бұрын

    Hello baron, now I play blade and sorcery nomad on quest 2. Will the graphics be better in the new version?

  • @Walteristheone

    @Walteristheone

    Ай бұрын

    can you pls make blade and sorcery nomad cross-buy? I don't wanna buy it again for pcvr

  • @TeckLee

    @TeckLee

    Ай бұрын

    This gerenally made cry this is probably favorite vr game and what got me into vr into the first place. This is one of those games that no matter how far down the gutter it goes will always have a very special place in Mt heart and I will always come back too with same happiness and eager to play as the very first time i played thank you warp frog for this game. Proving you don't need a battle pass or any such things that all you need is a good delvpoer team that wants to make a game somebody out enjoys so they can have fun I would have happily dropped 100 bucks for whatever the first build of the game I played was easily. Thank you so much.

  • @ChasterProductions

    @ChasterProductions

    Ай бұрын

    Hey Baron, we've spoken before on reddit about the state of the game and adding new animations. I recall you telling me that there are people on the team with a HEMA background, and while you all love sword fighting, you didn't want to put in the resources required to add more fighting animations. To this day, I still think that is a huge mistake. The game, as impressive as it is, lacks real progressive challenge. Once you learn the counters to the AI's limited moveset, the power fantasy is largely broken. While I'm excited to see what crystal hunt brings to the table, I can't help but feel all that work on a skill tree will be wasted when there's nothing challenging enough to warrant all these new abilities. It seems like it's too late to add in what I would have considered a basic complete experience (AI that can wield two handed weapons, dagger animations, more attack options), It's not too late to add explicit mod support for custom AI animations and behaviors. This isn't new content but is instead new back-end functionality, and could be delivered in an update post 1.0. This would allow modders to "hold down the fort" and add in these features that are very clearly missing from a game all about medieval weapon fighting. It would also be nice if modders could add custom spells to enemy spellcasters. Right now, every difficulty and AI mod simply speeds up the animations and makes the AI dodge endlessly, which shows that the modding system is lacking severely in this regard. I hope I can have fun playing your game again sometime in the future.

  • @vepixity6349
    @vepixity6349Ай бұрын

    What are you talking about? When a game is finished, nothing more is added apart from minor patches. You're acting like this is the first time an early access game has been fully released. The game isn't going to "die". Do new games that come out completely finished with no major content additions die instantly? Additionally, the modding community is going to be more than enough to keep this game fresh for years to come, look at Skyrim.

  • @toeslimelicker

    @toeslimelicker

    Ай бұрын

    That is not the point blade and sorcery is like the biggest vr game and the impact iy has had on vr will last or ever also its an inoformational video for those who did not know

  • @vepixity6349

    @vepixity6349

    Ай бұрын

    @@toeslimelicker What? I know B&S is influential. This guy is acting like he never thought it would stop getting content, which is stupid.

  • @MiuraUY

    @MiuraUY

    Ай бұрын

    Yeah tought the same thing, very silly of his part... was he expecting the game to be on beta forever? Like wtf?

  • @birdites

    @birdites

    Ай бұрын

    @@vepixity6349 and this dude actin like other games like hellsplit and battle talent dont exist which are 20 times better than b&s 8:34

  • @Gamerman2910

    @Gamerman2910

    Ай бұрын

    Tbf when was the last time an early access vr game actually fully released? We all just forgot that early access isn't supposed to last forever. Got that from habie147 btw

  • @mckay7965
    @mckay7965Ай бұрын

    "The dedication of a single mod community is not enough to keep a game alive." You've never played skyrim, have you? with thus being the last major update, there's no longer any fear of mods becoming outdated. I'd imagine that this is just the start for all the modders out there.

  • @weylinkrentz8481

    @weylinkrentz8481

    Ай бұрын

    Or Ark

  • @lordcaprisunthe2nd

    @lordcaprisunthe2nd

    Ай бұрын

    @@weylinkrentz8481or terraria, which is like the 12th or 11th most sold game of all time

  • @Left4Cake

    @Left4Cake

    Ай бұрын

    Team Fortress 2 (I know TF2 is only mostly dead and not ALL dead but still I think it counts for this example)

  • @mckay7965

    @mckay7965

    Ай бұрын

    @@Left4Cake mostly dead, is somewhat alive. With all dead, well there's usually only one thing you can do with all dead.

  • @dewee81kim86

    @dewee81kim86

    Ай бұрын

    I would also like to bring up Fallout 4 aswell, the modding community is still very much alive there

  • @POzzzzzz
    @POzzzzzzАй бұрын

    Skyrim has been supported entirely by modders for about 8 years now and its community is still thriving so i dont see why blade and sorcery couldn't be the same

  • @MrMutedhacker

    @MrMutedhacker

    Ай бұрын

    Sadly blade and sorcery has slowed down immensely with mods, unless alot of old modders come back modding is long past its peak and is only getting the hodge podge made in 3 hour mods.

  • @ConcernedPmGhost

    @ConcernedPmGhost

    Ай бұрын

    Well, as long as i can use MMP and outer rim, I'm happy. Main stays in my loadorder

  • @MrMutedhacker

    @MrMutedhacker

    Ай бұрын

    @@ConcernedPmGhost good chance those will get updated, outer rim may get a update just nothing new

  • @ConcernedPmGhost

    @ConcernedPmGhost

    Ай бұрын

    @@MrMutedhacker sadly, aiming with blasters or using halberds is pain, because I'm left-handed.

  • @MrMutedhacker

    @MrMutedhacker

    Ай бұрын

    @@ConcernedPmGhostSame but eventually after using them, right handed the weird feeling goes away

  • @soapdoggo
    @soapdoggoАй бұрын

    The game isn’t dying, they released an unfinished product and unlike ubisoft, finished it.

  • @mokey3067
    @mokey3067Ай бұрын

    What? The game isn't going to die. It's still going to get more patches, just not as significant. The roadmap has stated that after the 1.0 release, there could be “dlcs and or major extensions.”

  • @dizdimension

    @dizdimension

    Ай бұрын

    While I understand your skepticism, please see the linked article in the description where the developers describe the 1.0 release as the final update. You may also reach out to the Baron as I did for confirmation, he explicitly provided this info to me for this video.

  • @Just_a_Piano_

    @Just_a_Piano_

    Ай бұрын

    @@dizdimension the article that came out last year? and had already been talked about a lot? It's mainly a clickbait title to get more people to click the video

  • @NickDroid_

    @NickDroid_

    Ай бұрын

    Hopeful they keep fixing nomad I can barley play on outpost without it crashing

  • @waffler-yz3gw

    @waffler-yz3gw

    22 күн бұрын

    @@dizdimensionfunny how you're wrong, the baron's stated a few times there'll be more patches, and its even in his comment you pinned. you smoking something or what?

  • @sledge3174
    @sledge3174Ай бұрын

    This news was released in October last year, there’s been information released since then. Also, ending major development after the full release of a game is pretty normal. It’s not like development is fully ending, either. The roadmap states that there could be major updates and DLC

  • @Fredrick_Turner
    @Fredrick_TurnerАй бұрын

    Isn't that what happens when a singleplayer game is done? No major giant updates? A new game? I mean what else is there to add?! Did rdr2 get a buncha major updates every week after release?

  • @dizdimension

    @dizdimension

    Ай бұрын

    Many of the early access games in the modern day never leave their "early access" stage. Additionally, Red Dead 2 did receive numerous post-release content updates (mostly for Online).

  • @Fredrick_Turner

    @Fredrick_Turner

    Ай бұрын

    @@dizdimension I understand that most games just stay early access forever basically, but it felt kinda played up, like its never happened before. I meant singleplayer rdr2 when mentioning it, and it only strengthens my point. Multiplayer games (rdr2 online) are still updated long after release and singleplayer games (rdr2 story) usually fully finish development eventually. (Unless there are microtransactions) I hope we can both learn from eachothers views and have there not be any bad blood between us.

  • @Fredrick_Turner

    @Fredrick_Turner

    Ай бұрын

    @@dizdimension wait holdup hello im back. in the discord roadmap it says: "After final 1.0 release DLC(s) and/or major extension(s)" so the video is just straight up a lie??

  • @denniskarlsson7121

    @denniskarlsson7121

    24 күн бұрын

    ​@@dizdimension And those games that never leave their early access phase and doing so either due to incompetence, feature creep, greed, or all of it combined.

  • @waffler-yz3gw

    @waffler-yz3gw

    22 күн бұрын

    @@Fredrick_Turneryes it is false and clickbait

  • @Cxntrxl
    @CxntrxlАй бұрын

    Modder and game dev here - this won't kill BaS. If anything, it'll part ways for a new age of modding, since old code will no longer deprecate. There'll be more time for 1.0 modders to create community documentation for modding tools and make it significantly easier for new modders to get into scripting. Blade and sorcery, for the longest time, isn't entirely a game - as a sandbox this open to modding, it's also an engine of its own. I'm sure there'll be plenty of mods for it in the future. Hell, the game is in a place at the moment where someone could build an entire RPG using the features supplied, if given the time and motivation. Crystal hunt will finally bring BaS from a sandbox to a game, and it's a welcomed update on my behalf. Good things can't last forever, and I'm looking forward to seeing what Warpfrog and the modding community have in store for us in the coming years.

  • @Lonelyweirdo96
    @Lonelyweirdo96Ай бұрын

    Finally I can safely download my mods without fear of them suddenly becoming incompatible because of a new update

  • @Echo-hf9gq
    @Echo-hf9gqАй бұрын

    B&S is amazing to me, I always go back to it more than any other vr game. When I take breaks from it and come back I'm blown away by the mods that have come out for it. It's kinda like skyrim, a staple of gaming in its own right

  • @ConcernedPmGhost

    @ConcernedPmGhost

    Ай бұрын

    B&S is also very great when i need to let go of some steam after a stressful day

  • @MOST_RANDOM_OF_THEM_ALL
    @MOST_RANDOM_OF_THEM_ALL10 күн бұрын

    I remember echo arena it was super run to play before it shut down. In an Instagram AMA, Bosworth said that Echo VR's playerbase, while “loyal as all get out,” had fallen into the “low ten thousands,” as transcribed by UploadVR. “Unfortunately, keeping things alive takes work,” Bosworth said.

  • @checkpointstudios6419
    @checkpointstudios6419Ай бұрын

    I'm kind of okay with this decision. I'm sad that this game's ending, but at the same time, they've made this the best game they possibly could've. They haven't cut any of the things that they promised to deliver, and when they had to dely something, it was openly communicated. Warpfrog's always been a breath of fresh air for the game development space, and even if official updates are stopping, i don't think this game'll ever die out completely. There are so many modders and players dedicated to making the game better, that I think I, as well as others, will keep playing until the game gets taken off the store.

  • @JuniperofTheWolves

    @JuniperofTheWolves

    Ай бұрын

    The game isn’t ending…that implies its getting pulled from the market

  • @DF9000k

    @DF9000k

    Ай бұрын

    The game is not ending or coming off the store it’s just getting a second game mode called crystal hunt which will be an rpg/adventure game mode with a bunch of new stuff

  • @checkpointstudios6419

    @checkpointstudios6419

    Ай бұрын

    @@DF9000k ik but it's a live service game by nature of how facebook's store works, so eventually it won't be for sale

  • @DF9000k

    @DF9000k

    Ай бұрын

    @@checkpointstudios6419 Maybe not on oculus but it will still be on steam

  • @JuniperofTheWolves

    @JuniperofTheWolves

    Ай бұрын

    @@checkpointstudios6419 every game on every platform gets that treatment at some point, it’s nothing new

  • @Chicken_Sithlord
    @Chicken_SithlordАй бұрын

    such a famous game like blade and sorcery, even after the devs quit, would still be more than alive, the game will be at the mercy of the modders, which is what basically keeps the game alive even now

  • @SPANKSHD
    @SPANKSHDАй бұрын

    I have no doubt the modding community will be able to keep it going for a good amount of time I am very looking forward to 1.0

  • @shatteredrubyheart9082

    @shatteredrubyheart9082

    27 күн бұрын

    Not really the modding is quite limited with this game compared to something like Skyrim and also people have kind of stopped modding it for good reason honestly the game is just boring like you can only kill the same basic stupid enemies so much

  • @xGamermonkeyx
    @xGamermonkeyxАй бұрын

    Between H3VR and Blade and Sorcery coming slowly to the end of their lifecycles, and Echo VR being shuttered I feel like we're actually seeing the sunsetting of the first major golden age of VR. We will get another golden age of course, and it may even be soon, but it is what it is. All we can really do is pour out our thanks to the amazing developers who have created this iconic pillars of VR experience in the community.

  • @dizdimension

    @dizdimension

    Ай бұрын

    Couldn't agree more. And I loved Echo VR :'(

  • @frosty.archtide
    @frosty.archtide21 күн бұрын

    The game isn't dying and isn't being abandoned, it's just complete!

  • @4n4rch1st7
    @4n4rch1st725 күн бұрын

    it's not dying it's being completed. taking it out of early access isn't the same thing as discontinuing the game

  • @jestfulcompany9589
    @jestfulcompany9589Ай бұрын

    Personally, I see update 1.0 more like Hopfrog has fulfilled their promises, so they're sending the game off with one massive update to keep everyone occupied for years. Or at least until they make a new combat game IDK. Kind of like what Bonelab was trying to do, but actually functional out the box (sorry SLZ I love you but don't half bake your mod support next time) Edit: removed some of the yapping

  • @Guardian179
    @Guardian179Ай бұрын

    Welcome to 2024, where a game coming out of Early Access, and being considered "complete" is viewed as "dying". I'm going to sound so damn old here, but there was a time when games were released on physical media, and were just complete at launch. No continued support, feature updates, added weapons or maps. What you got in the box was all you were going to ever get out of that game. Now, we have created this culture of gamers that can't understand that a game can be good, while also not being a live service game supported well beyond its release. It's funny, because it doesn't apply to all games, and you really see it in early access titles. Once a game accomplishes what it set out to be and leaves early access, it should be able to considered complete. Otherwise, it will get tied up in development hell, where feature creep causes the game to never actually releases. Look at Star Citizen for the most glaring example of development hell. Additionally, once you have a solid modding community, the game can go on forever. Look at Skyrim or Arma to see what a healthy modding community can do for game longevity.

  • @JasonfromEarth
    @JasonfromEarthАй бұрын

    My last VR headset broke 2 years ago and I haven't replaced it. B&S is the 1 VR game I actually miss. It's so fun.

  • @NightmareWSP
    @NightmareWSP2 күн бұрын

    "game is dying" just because a game isn't live service doesn't mean it's "dead". not all games are like minecraft where you get content updates every year, most games are finished products or in early access and going to be finished.

  • @FuseVr
    @FuseVr29 күн бұрын

    this game changed virtual reality for me forever. its so immersive and its a free roaming game, you can walk and jump around with smooth movement and its just an amazing game all around

  • @wolfo142
    @wolfo1424 күн бұрын

    "The dedication of a single mod community is not enough to keep a game alive" Meanwhile Skyrim and Fallout: 👀👀

  • @eltyjade6734
    @eltyjade6734Күн бұрын

    honestly as long as i don't have to awkwardly tap the space bar twice while in a tethered pcvr headset to get the game to actually function im happy... games been utterly unplayable for what feels like an age because i just don't want to potentially break my neck every time there is a loading screen

  • @Badgamer1152
    @Badgamer11527 күн бұрын

    No. the in game mods will carry it player base so much that the game stays and the devs do release more updates.

  • @TotalyNotTony
    @TotalyNotTony25 күн бұрын

    Single player games don't die, especially games with regular content updates. They just get finished. You don't look at ARC and call it a dead game because it doesn't get truckloads of new content every tear

  • @malagargamer5598
    @malagargamer5598Ай бұрын

    Even if they add NOTHING to the game anymore it still wont "die". I hate these type of gamers who count the game " dead" as soon as no more content is added. Think about skyrim, its still a vwry loved game and the only new things are mods.

  • @mileonaslionclaw2525
    @mileonaslionclaw2525Ай бұрын

    As Skyrim is proof of, you are highly underestimate power of modders.

  • @goombaman8999
    @goombaman8999Ай бұрын

    Every cook has to finish their meal...

  • @practicallyprinz

    @practicallyprinz

    Ай бұрын

    Hehe nice one 😂

  • @cordeecepsfungus
    @cordeecepsfungusАй бұрын

    bro you should be happy bonelab's latest update was a year ago 💀 the last update we got was literally almost at release

  • @fusion9258

    @fusion9258

    3 күн бұрын

    Supposedly they're still trying to like remake the whole game 💀

  • @Shen7272
    @Shen7272Ай бұрын

    Saying that the game will "die" is a bit hyperbolic.

  • @oneredshep5863
    @oneredshep5863Ай бұрын

    i really hope it becomes the VR equivalent of Skyrim and people continue to upload mods for years

  • @practicallyprinz

    @practicallyprinz

    Ай бұрын

    I think it already has it's more of a Skyrim vr than actual vr Skyrim 😂😂😂

  • @stefaneziyoutube9368
    @stefaneziyoutube93683 күн бұрын

    This is an outrageous take for a game that is mostly focused on mods and sandbox. The game was good enough without the tweaks and any other features that the game lacks are brought to the table by the huge and improving modding community.

  • @smokingbobs1344
    @smokingbobs134422 күн бұрын

    Your choice of title implies a finality that is quite misleading. Singleplayer games don't "die" when a game fully releases. Now, I too am feeling bittersweet about 1.0, but the future of Warpfrog will be better for it, and B&S is complete. Luckily the titling was not an indication for the video itself, which was great!

  • @LunarCelestial
    @LunarCelestialАй бұрын

    5:48 skyrim contractors fallout 4 fallout 3 fallout new vegas Minecraft Garry's mod Battle Talent all of these games are mostly alive due to modding or have a strong long lasting modding community.

  • @MEMEchoas
    @MEMEchoas2 күн бұрын

    From what I can tell this game gonna end like Skyrim popularity wise which basically means people will keep playing even after the final major update

  • @TurtleMan2023
    @TurtleMan2023Ай бұрын

    I just wished they would bring it to PSVR2 it could be a system seller, something the PSVR really needs. I'm dying to play this game, and I never will be able to cux this ain't ever coming to PSVR2

  • @elijah5573

    @elijah5573

    Ай бұрын

    i heard about something with psvr2 and pc vr mixing in the near future, keep your eye out because you may be able to play it soon

  • @TurtleMan2023

    @TurtleMan2023

    Ай бұрын

    @elijah5573 No, playstation is just thinking about enabling pcvr support for pc users. They aren't mixing at all. Blade and Sorcery is built on an old engine that the team doesn't even use anymore, and the code is a mess apparently, so I really doubt they would ever go through the headache of dealing with all of that again just for another port. Probably a sequal though I bet

  • @elijah5573

    @elijah5573

    Ай бұрын

    @@TurtleMan2023 i worded my comment incorrectly, thats i meant yeah 👍

  • @vngaming255
    @vngaming2554 күн бұрын

    basically take advice. making a game genuinely good without too many microtransactions will do your game justice...probably. the game dev industry is a gamble

  • @diamondgod383
    @diamondgod3836 күн бұрын

    Hopefully in the update they add survivable dismemberment

  • @bogyma7915
    @bogyma791529 күн бұрын

    this is fearmongering, it won't die, it'll just get smaller updates for a time and will be supported by modders for years from 1.0

  • @imhallyall3841
    @imhallyall3841Ай бұрын

    I am really looking forward with what they have planned for Thunder Road 2. If they made Blade and Sorcery from crazy code and stuff, just think of what kind of a titan they will make out of the next game.

  • @hustlinmagic
    @hustlinmagicАй бұрын

    Damn, every game I bought prior to about 2002 must have been dead as soon as it released. They didn't get any content updates at all, ever.

  • @macekyuki7660

    @macekyuki7660

    Ай бұрын

    I remember when we got our games on CD-ROMs, installed and played them as finished product, must sound wild in this age.

  • @Dwayne_LaFontant
    @Dwayne_LaFontant29 күн бұрын

    Multiplayer Co-op would MAKE this game. (Not PvP that wouldn’t work.)

  • @es2cs
    @es2csАй бұрын

    Not a live service and done updating? Almost like a finished video game?

  • @SenseiWu12
    @SenseiWu127 күн бұрын

    You’re forgetting something, with the crystal hunt update brings LOADS of replay-ability I know for a fact I will be playing this game even more when crystal hunt is released

  • @notqunt1671
    @notqunt167112 күн бұрын

    I think they'll end up using the base of B&S for a full fledged big adventure focused game, this was merely them building out their tools

  • @Onion1976
    @Onion1976Күн бұрын

    really hope that we could ever get a b&s 2 literally any day any year, if b&s 2 came out in 6000 years id fucking self revive

  • @webberjarvis8126
    @webberjarvis8126Ай бұрын

    The youtube algorithm has yet to fail me, I've been waiting on a dizzyd upload for the last 4-5 years, I'm glad to see you're still making content man, wonder if you'll do a throwback to some unturned sometime :), thank you for coming back

  • @dizdimension

    @dizdimension

    Ай бұрын

    There's one cooking...

  • @xGhost4000x
    @xGhost4000x15 күн бұрын

    I don't think this is really a problem. Developers do have to eventually move on. Hopefully what they do next is just as good. And modders definitely can keep a game alive for a long time.

  • @BisexualPlagueDoctor
    @BisexualPlagueDoctor11 күн бұрын

    I don't think it's gonna go the TABS route; it's not gonna die, it'll just slow down.

  • @Gebunator
    @GebunatorАй бұрын

    You underestimate how long a well made game can last. Example: The Fallouts.

  • @shadowkid09r
    @shadowkid09rАй бұрын

    when will people realise that single player games CANT die if there’s still one player actively playing it?

  • @SkullpunkArt
    @SkullpunkArtКүн бұрын

    I’m going through different games I haven’t played in a while, so I’m definitely gonna have to check out the final update!

  • @PerryTheVrGuy
    @PerryTheVrGuyАй бұрын

    I am on a standalone quest vr headset so will this come to blade and sorcery nomad? Sorry if it is an obvious anwer im dumb

  • @GrandSirThebus
    @GrandSirThebusАй бұрын

    if the updates stop happening that means mods will no longer break from updates. that means it becomes a modder's paradise. i really don't think the game is going to die, it's just entering it's next transformation.

  • @UltimaJC
    @UltimaJC17 күн бұрын

    Games don't "die" when they hit full release.

  • @Azulbluegoober
    @AzulbluegooberАй бұрын

    honestly this is an amazing video keep up the good work

  • @flamemaster1928
    @flamemaster192828 күн бұрын

    Modding is one of the main reasons people play Bonelab the whole game is about the modding

  • @Ojmonkeyvr
    @Ojmonkeyvr25 күн бұрын

    Can some one tell me what map this is 8:29 pls is on vv or steam

  • @spartan-1210
    @spartan-1210Ай бұрын

    You have clearly never heard of Skyrim, the older Fallout titles, and so many other games that are still popular to this day because of their modding communities. To say that B&S will die just because it’s *potentially* not getting any more major updates (it is completely possible that they might make a DLC or major expansion, as said on the discord) is not a based claim at all.

  • @BobbyVR1
    @BobbyVR129 күн бұрын

    "The dedication of a single mod community is not enough to keep a game alive." have you heard of garrys mod

  • @macron8955
    @macron8955Ай бұрын

    As sad as I will be when this game finally dies, i can’t wait for blade and sorcery 2 to come out after

  • @theblackhole05
    @theblackhole05Ай бұрын

    I bet the next one will not be fragmented like Nomad. Better enemy animations. Maybe even some sort of pairing system that can be activated. I hope the second one starts off with a story mode. But besides upgrading the engine and new animations, I can't really think about what can make this game better. It's already so awesome.

  • @CadeBu
    @CadeBuАй бұрын

    B&S is not going to die as long as the community is there it will never die for example: Team fortress 2 titanfall 2 Boneworks and bone lab Thats all i can think of right now but there is more

  • @l_a_n_k_y
    @l_a_n_k_yАй бұрын

    God I am PRAYING for psvr2 support before they go… I used to play on pcvr but now I’ve switched headsets I can’t play it anymore.

  • @Actroz
    @ActrozАй бұрын

    People don’t realise this is single player and people will stop playing it just like bonelab

  • @Bestbroblox2817
    @Bestbroblox281714 күн бұрын

    This game will never die out for me❤

  • @jonny11995
    @jonny11995Ай бұрын

    I disagree I think with the final release we will get a modders wet dream of playgrounds to adapt. Think of the customised stories we will get, mods will mould this game to whatever they want and that’s exciting. The company has done the correct thing opening up the game so much to modders. Majority of the player base bought this game after seeing a mod and thinking wow. I’m exited to see what the madding community will make, it’s the game that’s even pushing me to want to put time into seeing what I can make. It won’t die it will be born again through the ashes.

  • @Jean-Louise.
    @Jean-Louise.15 күн бұрын

    And yet, Blade and Sorcery Nomad has yet to have Crystal Hunt

  • @kidsslanker5557
    @kidsslanker555729 күн бұрын

    We need the crystal update to save it (The game probably isn’t dying but the crystal update will save it if it is)

  • @wrongteous
    @wrongteousАй бұрын

    Bro if there's one thing people don't play this game for, it's regular updates. The player base will be perfectly fine.

  • @somewon007
    @somewon007Ай бұрын

    Even though I understand your statement in this video, what you said at 8:34 is just wrong. There are so many good games out there like Vail, Battle Talent, Helldivers and so much more that even feel better than Blade & Sorcery...

  • @OneAndOnlyGoofy
    @OneAndOnlyGoofyАй бұрын

    Battle Talent is worthy of taking its place.

  • @stinbray1120
    @stinbray112026 күн бұрын

    well part of the stuff with vr games is that hey we should make a vr version of this not hey lets make an entirely new game and put it in vr which is y pavlov exists yes it just csgo with more gamemodes but it is fucking amazing for what it is

  • @SergeiNiclevich
    @SergeiNiclevich4 күн бұрын

    I’m fairly certain they’ve said they don’t mind adding dlc after the full game releases.

  • @Ali-sb3wt
    @Ali-sb3wtАй бұрын

    Can somebody tell me what is this map called (8:02)

  • @ruskiialeksandrov8855
    @ruskiialeksandrov8855Ай бұрын

    You really nailed that clickbait title AND continued with that pitch until the end. That's sad When the game is finished, nothing else is added except DLCs if team decides (or publisher forces). And when you said that mod can't hold the game alive, it shows that you NEVER played Skyrim and GMod

  • @stevensonsteven5965
    @stevensonsteven5965Ай бұрын

    Games: stop updating Gamers: ded gam lol

  • @vectorizlit4083
    @vectorizlit4083Ай бұрын

    Honestly I can’t wait for the skill tree and full nomad scripting release so I can finally make a megapack that has all different elements on it like ice earth water life death ect that’s what I want to make

  • @Mohmar2010
    @Mohmar201025 күн бұрын

    This video is confusing to me Games that have major mod support and are single player, they live pretty much forever In other words, the game won't "Die" rather it's just fully completed I guess this whole video is for the VR crowd mainly, but in the major gaming market, it's a normal thing

  • @Nientaledfaux
    @Nientaledfaux23 күн бұрын

    It’s not dying the developers are not abandoning it and leaving new features to mods what are you saying it’s dying

  • @minijacket2602
    @minijacket2602Ай бұрын

    i dont mind it, but then again they could pull a terraria and release like 20+ "final" updates

  • @Childtoucher2099
    @Childtoucher209921 күн бұрын

    So basically after blade and sorcery warp frog will make some of the best vr games like they did before

  • @LimesAtTimes
    @LimesAtTimes25 күн бұрын

    Then DLC had a talk with a dev with HUGE update news… So… what now

  • @Feareo
    @FeareoАй бұрын

    6:05 lol attack chicken

  • @dizdimension
    @dizdimensionАй бұрын

    Hey everyone, thanks for watching! This video has been a labor of love on a game that I really enjoy. I hope this video is useful, informative, and most importantly, entertaining! If you're new to the channel, consider joining my DISCORD Community. This is a great way to stay informed on upcoming news and content - Invite Link: discord.gg/kUwPaVG Thanks again for sticking around and I look forward to chatting with you on the server. Take care gamers.

  • @AnaGameDev
    @AnaGameDevАй бұрын

    I think its a bit pessimistic to call a game 'dead' when it does not receive updates... Just because new games come out or hardware changes does not mean that people won't continue to play and enjoy games of the past. How do you think most single player games get finished and released? I understand with multiplayer live service games when updates stop activity and servers die but that is a minority of games...

  • @denkikaminari4150
    @denkikaminari4150Ай бұрын

    Bro this game is basically all moding even in its final version it will still be majorly alive

  • @KillerJoke87
    @KillerJoke8726 күн бұрын

    At least we still have Nomad...

  • @CrazyUnigod
    @CrazyUnigod24 күн бұрын

    Battle Talent is suprisingly a better substitute to B&S the base game is absolutely amazing!

  • @doodgeslagenmug
    @doodgeslagenmug10 күн бұрын

    Blade and Sorcery in my opinion is almost the only good VR game. Everything else feels cheap by comparison. It’s honestly ridiculous how bad some of the big brand games are while this small studio can make this.

  • @emperorkiron3470
    @emperorkiron3470Ай бұрын

    I disagree with your point regarding mods. A vast majority of games that have stayed alive do so only through mods, even after decades of radio silence from the original devs. Take Star Wars Battlefront 2 by EA, Gmod, and even Minecraft in it’s hiatus’ between updates. I wouldn’t be so quick to assume Blade and Sorcery would die immediately, or even a few years after the final update :)

  • @Psyko_Monk3y
    @Psyko_Monk3yАй бұрын

    Oh, I thought it was being abandoned and was worried. I'm fine with this outcome.

  • @yepski
    @yepski4 күн бұрын

    all i want is a few more spells like a healing one or one that gives you a buff

  • @misterkillhappy
    @misterkillhappy22 күн бұрын

    Me: *Slowly Dies in Confirmation of no Multiplayer for B&S1* As someone who was excited for quite some time for the possibility of non Modded native Multiplayer since U6 or so it is quite sad I won't be able to fiddle with a random NPCs Physics around his left foot while my friend beats it senseless across the head. I mean, with Mods that could be done, but I am not interested in IP sharing neither is the janky Desync all that worth trying out. But I am glad that after all that trouble they went through for a fun game, they finally get to take good long deep breaths of non-spaghetti code for their next project, which I am hopeful means that they will dive like crazy into update/content projects, which ultimately means an even better new game later on.

  • @champgaming5936
    @champgaming5936Ай бұрын

    You should play and make a video on battle talent vr. It’s on the same level as blade and sorcery in my opinion.

  • @IamVENGANCE1939
    @IamVENGANCE193915 күн бұрын

    is outer rim on vr or pc?

  • @CainDB
    @CainDB16 күн бұрын

    I just hope they will make it less CPU dependent and replace FSR1 with LITERALY ANYTHING, FSR1 doesn't do jack shit, what a strange choice for uspalling technology, at least use FSR2.1 so we can mod FSR3 into it or ANYTHING besides FSR1 really...

  • @darreltherover
    @darreltheroverАй бұрын

    Good god it’s about time they released crystal hunt I mean the games showed “crystal hunt coming summer 2023”

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