For anybody really interested in flypress usage for smithing John Crouchet made an excellent video a few years ago on tooling and usage..

Great video John! Much appreciated…. Scott did a nice job of explaining the functions of a fly press!

@BlackBearForge

Жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

Early day! Worth it! Thanks for posting.

Thanks John for sharing with us. Pretty cool machine.

Thanks for taking and sharing this. Always good to get more information!

Thank you John for showing this

Thanks for that John. I would love to go to such events, but the Rockies is a bit of a drive from Brisbane Australia. I really appreciate the effort you go to, to bring us these things.

Good morning, John.

Looks fun

Thanks John this was good seeing all the different tooling' but I have seen your video on fly press before it was very good so looking forward to your next one.

The embossing feature is handy. I can see many uses for this jack of all trades machine. Excellent for no electricity situations or playing around with different approaches to cold work.👍

Good info, but I sure would like a more visual and in-depth video from your flypress in Black Bear Forge.

Awesome informational educational video experience Y'alls

Thank you for taking the time to produce this video. I realy enjoyed this video.

@BlackBearForge

4 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it

Jake James on Vancouver Island brought a container of neat stuff over from England. I bought my press from him.. Great guy, unbelievable smith....

Hah! I could have sworn I've worked on a few screw-presses of the exact same design, And then he said they're imported from India 😂 Little bit of story if anyone's interested in these things: Indian Railways (1.4 million employees, among the largest employers in the world) manufactures a lot of parts and components for its railway network in-house. When they modernize/upgrade their equipment, a LOT of heavy machinery is up for sale on the used market, including thousands of screw presses! There are still plenty of British-era (pre-1947) heavy fly press, radial drills, lathes, etc gathering rust in remote corners of India. For the last 20 years, screw presses are in great demand here in India, they're used for all kinds of home shops & small scale industries: think hand pressed biodegradable food plates, nut crackers, pasta/papad makers, pressing oil from all kinds of nuts, shearing angle/plate iron to name just a few. Incidentally, most of these home shops are owned and operated by women in India! Probably has something to do with the ease of operating a machine like this. Takes a few pounds of input force, turns it into several tons! Ironically (pun intended), very few blacksmiths use it here 🤣 Personally, I learnt proper sand casting as an apprentice at a local place that was casting the housings for these things at the time, and also learnt single point thread cutting on a lathe while cutting a hundred of those multi-start screws 😂 As long as you keep the screw and v-ways greased, these machines will last for centuries!

Enjoyed this video and I'm happy to find your organization. I hope I can travel to your meetings when they resume. I'm in Wheatland, WY

Lots of good Flypress info.

A lot of good information, we had a similar presentation at an Indiana conference a couple of years back. Made me want a fly press.

I just purchased 2 flypresses at auction and it's amazing to see just how much better this one in the video slides compared to mine. It's gotten better after greasing, but I should probably take the entire thing apart. If people would just take proper care of their tools my life would be so much easier :D

@MatthewTinker-au-pont-blanc

4 жыл бұрын

How about oil instead of grease? Grease lubricates but, it clogs things up! An oil pump on what might look like grease nipples (zerk fittings) Regards, Matthew

@BlackBearForge

4 жыл бұрын

Taking it apart and cleaning it would be a good idea. I do use oil on mine instead of grease.

@LPJMagicmusic

3 жыл бұрын

You definitely would want to use oil. Usually manual tools require oil. Machines are powerful and dont notice the resistence of heavy grease but we do so oil takes away that resistance.

Fly Presses are very versatile machines we used a lot of them at work for bending , punching and cutting.

So educational! But a few points I got lost ! Like the stamping of brass and copper see I’m getting lots of requests for more expensive metals ! I’ve got pretty good at forging brass ! Copper it’s hit and miss sometimes it’s perfect and sometimes it all crumbles apart like sand 🤬! But that stamping I can see lots of uses for in my shop ! Yes plz John I’d appreciate more on the fly press stuff!! I know everyone will enjoy them !

@BlackBearForge

4 жыл бұрын

Just anneal the brass or copper then work cold.

Quite interesting. Thank you

Thank you man. Oh follow up indeed.

The video was fine, good info to on setting up top dies with the use of the bolt. I have an A Frame 20 ton press while it is larger then it needs to be the price was right and after 2 years of looking it works . Though as he said it does take some fiddling to get dies and setting down pat.

Thanks for sharing.

thank you

I have this same Adams Bros. Flypress. I would love to see a more in depth video from top to bottom on this machine and the different dies. Maybe not in a class setting but just all about the press. Thanks John, you rock brother!

I have never worked with a fly press. After seeing this I very well may make one. Thanks a bunch John !

I would have enjoyed going there

Ages ago you did a video making hold fasts using your fly press. In particular, it was one with an upset corner. You said you would do a video on how to do that but I've never found it. If you didn't do the video, could you do a video start to finish of the upset corner hold fast with the fly press, please? Thanks

I use a fly press for my touchmark. Extremely useful, especially for larger touchmarks where I can't actually do it well by hand and hammer.cyou really do need a good stand for a fly press though, and to have it all bolted down, this can't be underestimated. Mine is currently sat in the floor as I need to build a stand for it. It's just about usable but damn, a stand is needed asap

@BlackBearForge

4 жыл бұрын

I started using mine on the floor and it was still way more efficient for the job at that time than doing it at the anvil.

Thank you for sharing this piece of discussion ! What's the name of the plastic matter used to squish down the sheets into molds ?

@BlackBearForge

4 жыл бұрын

Its polyurethane.

Nice I always like fly press vids. Over here you can get a them for under £100, I only paid £41 for mine.

what was the yellow rubber stuff he was using called?

Do you know the model of the fly press in the video? I'm very interested in the mechanism in the fly press arms that let's the arm change position relative to the screw. Thanks!

@BlackBearForge

2 жыл бұрын

I'm not sure the model, but its an old one.

I am more of a machinist than smith, but would like to build my own fly press. Plan on milling the thread, with my set-up a larger dia. thread would be easier for me to do for the internal nut, any disadvantage of having one about 3 inches ? What would you consider the minimum lead ? Does a 3 inch with 2 inch lead sound workable ?

@BlackBearForge

2 жыл бұрын

I'm not sure exactly what the lead is, but it is a four lead screw and very fast

@burrowbuddy3596

2 жыл бұрын

@@BlackBearForge If I understand, it has 4 starts, that said what is the width od each thread ? Thanks Anyone else help me with different thread typs ?

@BlackBearForge

2 жыл бұрын

@@burrowbuddy3596 from the edge of one thread it is 3/4” to the next. So thats 3” to the next edge of that same start. That works out as 3” of vertical movement per single revolution, as measured in use. This is a 2 1/2” diameter screw.

Wish would show us bending or turning a piece of what ever they use it for

@BlackBearForge

4 жыл бұрын

I have shown some of that previously but will try to do a more detailed followup in my shop.

I just got a flypress but it most definitely is not for little work like that it is a 60 ton and almost flipped the forklift to get it home it will get used to punch hammers and fuller big material.

@BlackBearForge

4 жыл бұрын

Thats one big press

That was informative, Though you may need to add to " Stay safe, Wear Safety Glasses & "Hard Hat". lol

@BlackBearForge

4 жыл бұрын

👍

Interest, nut where does one find such a tool

@BlackBearForge

4 жыл бұрын

West Coast Fly Press or Old World Anvils

This sort of thing is more interesting than hooks! Pity aabout the camera angle! Regards, Matthew.

This is a photo of the Fox Shop Super Press Clamp my landlord letting me use, won't fit on the end of my bench, so thought I would make a stand for it with an adjustable center for height, wondering how well it would work as a tiny fly press?: photos.app.goo.gl/TDfTWNhsYAkPbhuw7

@BlackBearForge

4 жыл бұрын

Interesting press. It would be slow, but should be of some use for light work.

Lousey Video work . if thats a demonstration of you rear its perfect, yes some very useful information but i felt like turning it off why not show the demonstration from the punters position. who wants to see the audience, like the collar idea best.

@BlackBearForge

4 жыл бұрын

These demonstrations are not done for the benefit of the KZread audience. So I stay to the back and catch what I can. The alternative is to simply not give you the chance to see it as well.

@Billlupton

4 жыл бұрын

If its not done for the youtube Audience why put it up ?

@BlackBearForge

4 жыл бұрын

It is a local club meeting put on for our local group. Those in attendance pay to attend the demo. The group is doing it for those in attendance. I am permitted to share some with my KZread audience as long as I don’t get in the way. Hopefully there is something of interest. But KZread is not the reason this demo was held. So I can show what I am able to film and those willing to view with that in mind can still learn a great deal and perhaps be encouraged to participate in their own local group. Not every video suits every viewer. But as long as there are those that find these useful I will continue to post them from time to time. Clearly you should stock to my more formal videos done in my own shop where KZread is the primary purpose.

Wear a hardhat

Hello Jack Nice video but i dont see so much things that a good blacksmith with a Hot fire and a Hammer cant do Ok it Cold bending and printing Metall thats not forging in its clear way If you make hundrets of equal pices in a industrial Produktion with one Tool its ok But the changing of the Tools and the difficulties while doing it seems to me very inefficent A anvil a good peace of steal a hot fire and a good Hammer are the better way to me Greetings from Germany and the woods of Schleswig Holstein Good bless you Yours Frank