EDIT - The 12K has had a huge price cut, it is now £4469 (Ex VAT)!! Let us know your thoughts on the 12K below and I believe KZread is still processing the video to 8K!! Hopefully, it will be done soon.

@MicahBisagni

3 жыл бұрын

I am currently shooting with 3 12Ks and would love to hear about the bugs....

@mariotriforce

3 жыл бұрын

Any improvements with the update released today?:)

@CptCurk

3 жыл бұрын

@@MicahBisagni which bugs ?

@CptCurk

3 жыл бұрын

Hey ! Great. Would love at least to know if you think it's a reliable camera. Do you think professionally, it can handles documentary shooting in a cold humid forest with a little rain ? Was considering going for a Mavo Edge. But maybe this could be the go to camera. I'll keep my X-T3 for Bcam and consider in buying a second for Ccam (shooting timelapse or just small close animals possibility !)

@MicahBisagni

3 жыл бұрын

@@CptCurk kzread.info/dash/bejne/pZ2llNafdcnAoco.html

Wow, this might be the most thorough review I've ever seen of a camera.

@natejoseph

3 жыл бұрын

This might be the most thorough review I've ever seen for anything.

@DeanHarringtonimages

3 жыл бұрын

Very excellent review indeed.

Others have said it, but I'll say it too. This is hands down the best, most well thought out, and comprehensive review of this camera and it's features that I've seen. You guys did a great job with this, and that level of quality keeps me coming back to the channel.

This is the best, most detailed reviews of the 12k I have ever seen. Thanks for putting so much effort into your reviews.

This was well worth the wait. I'm 2 minutes in and already saw the best UMP 12K footage on the internet. Got a snack and ready to get into this! Thanks for your work.

@CVPTV

3 жыл бұрын

Glad to hear it! Enjoy and thank you for watching! Jake

This is the cleanest footage I've ever seen on KZread. Truly amazing. Looking through the fire at 120 is killer. This is not nuance differences.

THIS is the most thorough review I have seen of a camera.

Most convincing images I’ve seen from this camera. Amazing. Great review.

This is the best review I've EVER seen, not only on this topic but in general. Absolutely overkill, my god...

Thanks for the thorough review. The footage is definitely impressive. Thanks for taking a look at post-production as well. Keep up the excellent reviews. I've been subscribed to your channel for a while, but now I'm turning on notifications so I don't miss any videos from CVP.

Shot a commercial yesterday on this camera. Felt confident with the functioning of the camera because of your valuable insights. Thnk u for the Video. I shot on 8K 5:1 bitrate @25 fps However while shooting on 60fps and above my ssd card was crashing. I had to bring down the bitrate/quality or resolution for smooth recording.

Man, you've lost probably 25 kilos? If this is deliberate change of lifestyle - congrats on the achievement! If it's an illness - get well soon.

@CVPTV

3 жыл бұрын

Appreciate the kind words! It was a change of lifestyle, lockdown wasn't kind to my waistline so decided to fix it! Thanks for watching, Jake

@nimbysmith2942

3 жыл бұрын

This is one of the least-loaded ways I have ever seen someone compliment/express concern about weight loss. It's actually pretty impressive.

I was surprised that the difference between 4K and 8K was so noticable. Sadly it's a slideshow on my computer

Great review! So much effort put into it. Remember marveling over a DVD image for the first time? This camera produces 230 (Two hundred and thirty) times as many pixels.

One year on this camera... it's a monster... looks are similar to Vraptor and Arri mini LF... but with better interface and insane high speed capability 🤣👌

This camera is so amazing, can't believe it's relatively 'cheap' for what it can do

Thanks so much for the info guys. Great, thorough and honest review as always. This is why we watch and why we buy from you. Thanks also for pointing out the notorious 'out of gpu memory's bug in Resolve. This issue is intensely problematic as an editor and colourist. BM have been aware of it for several years and have never fixed it. It occurs when editing 6k or even 4k footage from a variety of cameras, and completely prevents use of noise reduction features on many systems. Even with 6gb of GPU memory. Hopefully this review will be taken as feedback by BM.

@geraldine-211

3 жыл бұрын

I'm really glad you mentioned this. Your comment taught me a lot about GPUs and editing. I've just got into the world of proxies and managing GPU use across my system's apps while editing, but it's great to know what lies beyond so I can plan ahead.

Fantastic review! Thanks so much for the time and effort you put into it!

@CVPTV

3 жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching! Jake

This is by far the best review I've ever seen and I've seen a few. I will use it as a reference when I get mine delivered. Thanks Team

Wow this review was so well put together and thanks for taking the time to do the excel Jake. I think BM have got their work cut out by entering the £10k pricepoint - other manufacteres have been in this space for longer and have a better understanding of the £10k customer. C300 MK III/FX6 for me offer a much better package for a pro user - also one thing not really mentioned is the warranty - a 1 year warranty for this type of camera is no good - makes it a risky proposition. Also the moire issue looks worse than on the 4.6k models. Also the highlight rolloff doesn't look great from footage I've seen even with Gen 5 applied and using AcesCCT. I'm still going to get one though because I'm a BM user and completely mad.

Hi, I rewatching this review during my workout (haaaa the lockdown life) and I'd like to had something : ONE CCD sensor did have full RGB readout without a prism. The Sony CCD S35 Sensor featured in the F35 and Panavision Genesis did actually use an RGB Triad kinda similar to what Blackmagic is doing here but at a smaller resolution (5K-ish by 3K-ish to owersample to 1080p full RGB image) and without the clear photosites.

Like drinking from a fire hydrant. Amazing job guys

Remarkable efforts to make complete and detailed review, kudos to the team specially to jake.i hope jake will update his PC with 3rd zen Ryzen near soon. I enjoyed the complete video.

Amazing! I just did a test at 4k 24ofps and the Ursa 12k is doing amazing

This camera it's so ahead of its time that people are afraid to buy it. Olso mad respect to the guys who made this video more like a movie, so much hard work & hours of editing.

Thank you so much CVP for all this information, and especially the bitrate excel breakdown! I was confused at what type of media will suit this camera and this really helps!

really appreciate the thorough, unbiased/brand loyal review.

@CVPTV

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching! Jake

Wow so cool, I liked that too, unfortunately not many can afford such a great 🎥 I belong to it, but I am happy for everyone who moves creativity in life🙏

I went from Ursa Pro to Ursa G2 to Pocket 6K's. I guess it's time to spend £9K. This camera looks absolutely crazy . In capable hands could make miracles (not mine obviously). I like the fact that shooting only raw. Aimed specifically

HOW TF DO U ONLY HAVVE 54.5K SUB??? SHOULDNT THIS NUMBER BE FREAKING 5M

I am here because of the new price drop.

Great review tx

My 2013 MAc Air plays 8K video - wow - it actually makes a huge difference- brilliant review - thanks

there is test footage that help the watcher download it...much appreciated..it would be awesome if there is a test footage for camera review in your next videos...top notch

**me watching in 480p** mmm yes thats extremely detailed

Useful info that will come in handy when having to apply the characteristics of the camera in demanding situations. Thanks for the thoughtful presentation.

@CVPTV

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching! Jake

Incredible detail and clarity!

Beautifully done! Amazing images and incredibly informative. Thank you SO MUCH.

Was waiting for this review!!! I got a Red Komodo and also thinking about this 12k camera.

I've watched this video, no joke, probably 30 times.

@CVPTV

2 жыл бұрын

Wow that’s insane for such a long video. Thanks for watching! Jake

Awesome video, will watch tonight!

I recognise the location for the Canal filming clips as > The Basingstoke Canal in Hampshire. A lovely piece of filming..... :-) !

This is the Best review I have ever seen

what an absolutely massive amount of information. very well done ..

The custom filter array sounds great and very promising in terms of color performance. Which is (along with highlight rollof and dr) what makes certain cameras stand out now that resolution is not an issue. The footage though does not sell the camera. The images despite being well shot and very detailed do not stand out as anything special. It seems like the type of image you get today from most cameras at this level. Obviously one has to test for himself though and i guess youtube compression is the great barrier. A very thorough review, keep them up.

0:18 When you are holding a big black 12-inch ... I mean 12k camera in public.

I would love to see a comparison video between this and a whole bunch of other high-end cinema cameras, such as the RED V-Raptor, RED Komodo, and the ARRI ALEXA 35.

It looks great, but even tv stations are asking for 1080 deliverables still. When they update, i'll probably go to an 8k camera, but right now it feels like it's for something of a niche market.

AMAZING quality review! Subscribed. :)

thank you for the great quality of your video

Great job, perfect video brother, you really help me out to decide to get one. Thanks

Correction...The g2 does up to 120fps in 4.6k and 150fps is 4k (slight crop). Cropped 2k/HD up to 300fps.

Man, you lost a lot of weight! Way to go! Looking sharp :)

Wow I am speechless, thank you so much for this video

@CVPTV

3 жыл бұрын

No problem 😊 Jake

Have you guys tested out the newer OLPF version of the URSA 12K released 2023? I heard that it has less noise than the previous version. Thanks very much!

Amazing reviews, very detailed .

People don't seem to understand how high resolution human eyes are. We still have yet to create a camera nearly as high resolution as a human eye. That's why we must continue to advance digital resolutions.

36:04 Geforce cards will write the same info into the VRAM on all cards present in the system (so you'll end up with the limit no matter how many cards you have). If you want to expand your VRAM you'll need to use Quadro cards (or wait a year or two, since iirc something like that is in the making for consumer cards).

@CVPTV

3 жыл бұрын

Sorry is that not what I said in the video?

@TechnoBabble

2 жыл бұрын

@@CVPTV No, you said that Resolve would not use the extra VRAM, but it is not a problem with Resolve. The issue is with NVLink on the Geforce cards as VRAM is mirrored and not added. This is not an issue that Blackmagic can solve, you just need more VRAM on a single card or you need Quadros that support pooling of VRAM.

It's out! Thanks!

it is my dream camera i have to work at least for two years until i buy camera like this

The only thing I dislike about the camera is that instead of gaining one more stop of dynamic range they've reduced it. so Instead of giving us 16 we now have 14. Also would love to see this type of camera with a stabilized sensor.

@jacy123

Жыл бұрын

I agree about the Dynamic range, it seems like stabilized sensors are a bit of a bust for video though.

very use ful information thanks a lot god bless you take care.

Speaking of Moire. According to Slashcam there are ways to prevent any kind of moire: - Avoid using Premiere - When working on a 4K rimeline also decode as 4K in debayer tab, decode as 8K on a 8K timeline.

@CVPTV

3 жыл бұрын

Moire is still visible in Resolve when doing what they have mentioned, see here - gyazo.com/ba6b66484805671fade9a354d18eba2c

@DennisSchmitz

3 жыл бұрын

@@CVPTV oh well, I don't want that :D

I think yours and gerald undones reviews are the benchmark now.

@CVPTV

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching! Jake

Great Review! I wonder how the highest quality settings are to use, if there are no proper media available. Anyways, this camera is relatively affordable, but if you consider lenses, computers, storage and other accessories needed for making this camera useful, you quickly go into the 6-figure area. So be sure, you will not run out of funds...

Simply brilliant thank you

great review as always,

I can’t imagine the file sizes in 12k 😮

Great review!

Hello i want to ask you abut Blackmagic URSA Mini Recorder how to install the NVME SSD can you help me please

Watching this going, that lens is cool, I should probably pick that up...then I google and it's $43,000!!!! Son of a.... I guess I'll stick with my X series lenses, lol.

29:32 - Oh Boy, at only 3 stops under the noise grain (each point of detail) is so big it may as well be 1080p or even less... image kind of looks like heavily graded 8-bit 5D Mark 2 footage from 2009

Amazing review, subscribed! I need help choosing between Ursa 12k, Red Komodo or waiting for new models... I love the image of the Komodo, but its specifications (framerate and cropfactor) hold me back. The Ursa is magnificent in this, but for more footage I see I can't see its image at the level of the Komodo. In addition to the form factor, and the weight of the camera... Help me please... Thanks!

that is called real cinematic captures

I see some compression artifacts in between the shelves to the left behind you. See 43:06 for an example. Even in 1080p. KZread Compression? Resolve output?

@CVPTV

3 жыл бұрын

KZread! The original export was a 500+ GB ProRes 422 HQ file that we then transcoded to h264 at 125Mbps for KZread upload. There is no artefact in the PTC on the original BRAW files. Jake

@memostothefuture

3 жыл бұрын

@@CVPTV Thank you - also for going into all the various color management options in Resolve. That's something I struggle with a lot and appreciate any insight gained from your videos.

CFA = color filter array, not custom...

@CVPTV

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I'm not sure why I have said Custom here, think I meant to say custom colour filter array, I must have had a bit of a brainfart!

What about SDI output to workstations with 3000MB/s+ SSDs using OBS to encode uncompressed?

Does this have a fan, and if so, how loud is it? Tx.

@CVPTV

3 жыл бұрын

I will ask if it has a fan but I would be surprised if it didn't. In regards to noise, when we ran our tests inside and outside. I don't remember it getting loud. The body is decently large with a good amount of venting along the top and bottom which will help with cooling massively. Jake

WOW! Good job! Thank you.

@CVPTV

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching! Jake

Hi Guys, great review, am I missing something but I cannot seem to see the link to the database you created with all the possible data rates for each resolution? Thx.

Image looks great but I have the slight feel KZread doesn't do it any justice.

I hope BMD could add a thumbnail page for Playback footage.

Running out of VRAM with Davinci Resolve won't happen with an AMD GPU, it has something to do with CUDA/NVidia/Resolve memory handling. This article can tell you more www.slashcam.de/artikel/Test/AMD-XFX-Radeon-RX-5600-XT-Grafikkarte---Durchschnittliche-Mittelklasse.html It's and German, just use google translate or something similar.

@geraldine-211

3 жыл бұрын

This is the comment I didn't ask for, but needed. Thank you kind friend

Video is so crispy and clean! Any advice as to how to optimize export on this camera for similar results?

@CVPTV

3 жыл бұрын

There is a whole section in the video talking about working with Resolve at 33:51, you can see our export settings there and it goes over some of the difficulties of exporting this footage! Jake

Great video what I’m wondering is if there will be a update to Ursa mini pro g2 and pockets 6k anytime soon or if it’s worth just getting them

How would you say the sharpness is compared to any of Red's 8K sensors, given that technically this camera has double the pixels?

I love how in-depth this video is but I haven't found a resolution yet for my current issue without spending more money. I'm running the 12K with the Samsung PM983 7.68TB (as recommended by this video) on the SSD Reader and have used it up to 12K 8:1 50fps without a problem. Now, the SSD reader blinks yellow & the BM distributor inspected it & says it's my SSD, not the reader or camera. In the URSA manual it says Samsung 983 SSD's are approved but it only mentions the 1.92TB & 960GB versions. The URSA manual specifically mentiones PM983 drives at that resolution, compression, frame rate, hence the reason I bought it. Soon I will have a shoot but no resolution as to how I am going to record to media without buying another drive. Any advice?

Have you tried using the SSD Recorder with the 4.6k G2? It looks better than the one blocking the 2 SDI ports at the back.

how to setting for 8k HDR in Blackmagic URSA Mini Pro 12K camera? i am a new one

Sperb review! Whether Zeiss CP.3 lenses are compatible with Ursa mini pro 12k ?

@CVPTV

3 жыл бұрын

CP3 will mount fine yes! Jake

Awesome explanation.

@CVPTV

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching Mithin! Jake

Mate well done! This would have taken lots of work

@CVPTV

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you, it was! Jake

@LifeOfAB

3 жыл бұрын

@@CVPTV Bravo!!!

Me watching this in 720p: hm nice picture quality 😂

Was the "talking head" part of this video shot on the 12K?

@CVPTV

3 жыл бұрын

Hey Jerry, yes it was, lens used with the camera was a 40mm ARRI Master Prime. Jake

My computer didn't agree on the 8k upload lol

@CVP Hi! Any solution for the Bottleneck on the storage by the USBC cable? Could a thunderbolt cable work? Thank you!

Hello ! Thank you very much for your reviews they are just perfect ! Is till have a question though : on the black magic website its advertised UMP 12k has autofocus with compatible lenses. Do you have any idea if its good or not ? Is it focus tracking or only auto focus ? THX in advance !

@CVPTV

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching! It's pretty basic. Really not worth using imo. Jake

@pulppictures4215

3 жыл бұрын

​@@CVPTV ok thanks for your answer ! U know maybe where i can find some test of it ?

back for a rewatch now that this thing only costs 6k

What is the benefit of editing with the 12k raw? footage. Won't even the fastest machine bog down with the slightest transition or effect added. Wouldn't working with proxies be far easier and overall faster?

@CanditoTrainingHQ

2 жыл бұрын

The format of raw here is BRAW. It actually edits significantly faster in Davinci Resolve than many codecs, like h265. The file sizes are large (relative to other non-raw codecs), but file size and speed are oddly not directly related. I'd be quite confident that an above average computer can roll through 12k BRAW in Resolve well. That being said, the fastest workflow would be to just change project settings resolution at the end, with no need for proxies. That'd take under 5 seconds and 4k BRAW is absolute butter.

Hello! I have a question about a camera monitor. I have the URSA MINI Pro 12K and I wanted to use the Blackmagic Video Assist 12G as a camera monitor. But when I recorded BRAW I didn´t have a signal on the screen of the Video Assist 12G. Is it possible to record the BRAW video and watch the live video at the same time on the screen? I´m not sure if the SDI output on the URSA Mini Pro supports the BRAW....