One important thing I had meant to mention (for those who aren't aware): The Garmin / GPS unit featured in the video, does *not* come with the Analogue Caravan as standard. Cheers everyone! : )

@theaustralianconundrum

2 жыл бұрын

Trust me. Stick with Asobo Caravan. 3rd part devs are a plague for FS 2020. And it must stop! The Marketplace is full of garbage. Microsoft need to address this vetting process ASAP!!!!!!!!!!! You are NOT helping.

@Topcat1952

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, getting this plane yesterday finally encouraged me to get the TDS version of the GTNXi. After flying and enjoying the Caravan, I am really anxious for the King Air to be released. I don't care for the Asobo version with the G3 cockpit, so the analog should be much more enjoyable. Thanks for the review sir!

@theaustralianconundrum

2 жыл бұрын

@@Topcat1952 The Beechcraft Glass displays are wonderful!

@Topcat1952

2 жыл бұрын

@@theaustralianconundrum To each his own, of course.

@theaustralianconundrum

2 жыл бұрын

@@Topcat1952 Whatever................

As a caravan pilot my self I really love this add on, all the small attentions to detail is something I can really appreciate, from the way the fuel needles move around as fuel sloshes in the tank to the way the voltammeter is realistically modled. I prefer the ground handling of this caravan compared to the asobo one. My biggest problem with this add on is the perfermance way exceeds what the caravan is realistically capable of. All in all I think its a great add on and is a great learning tool for the caravan that offers high fidelity to the real caravan. And a great tool help practice IFR (the reason I got this add on as I don't get to do IFR often).

@IntotheBlueSimulations

2 жыл бұрын

Ah well thanks very much Captain Motorsickle - always great to have feedback from those that have flown the aircraft; happy to hear that you think Black Square have done a pretty decent job with the 208 overall. I did spot the fuel gauges and was impressed myself, even made mention of it during the flight, but that bit ultimately got edited out (along with my waffling explanation of how the RNAV unit theoretically works haha). I see Black Square have just brought out a pretty sizeable update for the Analogue Caravan. I haven’t had a chance to try it yet myself, but that’s great to see. Hopefully it addresses some of the performance issues that you have made mention of also. Cheers and happy flying! : )

This looks like an absolute must buy. I hope Just Flight continues to make overhauls of all the other default aircraft, especially the Bonanza and Baron next.

@IntotheBlueSimulations

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Ben, Yes, it's a pretty nice addon for those of us who prefer our steam gauges. The overhaul idea is a great one and like you, I hope Black Square continue on with other aircraft (though again, I do hope the flight model receives a little more attention in the future). The Black Square team already put out a very comprehensive update for the Caravan, so that's great to see! All the best : )

Bought the product few weeks ago, it's an absolute game changer when practising "old school" navigation, instruments are behaving as real with smoothness. A "must have" for all who know or dare to navigate , I repeat, navigate.

@IntotheBlueSimulations

Жыл бұрын

Really glad you're enjoying the product Stabilo and indeed finding it to be of use! Happy flying / navigating : )

Love this add-on ! Caravan seems like a whole new aircraft, money well spent :)

@IntotheBlueSimulations

2 жыл бұрын

I’m really glad you’re enjoying it Ronnie! Happy flying : )

I'm looking forward to the King Air edition.

@IntotheBlueSimulations

2 жыл бұрын

Likewise Jekanyika! : )

Thanks for the great video. I bought the caravan yesterday and it was a fantastic puchase. As otherts have said, this is exactly what I've been waiting for. The aerodynamics are definitely improved, but could use more work. Hopefully there will be some 3rd party mods now since its compatible with the default Caravan. I am going to thoroughly enjoy this one, but I can't wait for the King Air.

@IntotheBlueSimulations

2 жыл бұрын

My pleasure Jake! I'm really glad you're enjoying the Analogue Caravan, it is indeed a great product and a nice option for those of us who don't have a proclivity for glass screens haha. I would still like to see more work on the flight model, but otherwise I the Caravan is solid and indeed, I'm really looking forward to the King Air also! All the best : )

Thanks for another great review. I really like what Black Square have done with the Caravan by giving it so much more functionality. I don't like glass cockpits much either and this Caravan now looks much more like what I'm used to in previous sims. However I have already "replaced" the Caravan with a third party aircraft but I will be looking very closely at your review when the upgrade for the King Air is released.

@IntotheBlueSimulations

2 жыл бұрын

A pleasure as always Squirel! Haha, I agree that the King Air will probably have more appeal overall, since it doesn't really have a counterpart (payware or otherwise) in the sim yet. The addon is looking very nice from the screenshots that I have seen, though I do hope that the flight model gets a little bit more work this time. Either way, I'm very much looking forward to it! I shall certainly aim to have a review out when the product becomes available : ) All the best!

@Squirel

2 жыл бұрын

@@IntotheBlueSimulations All the best too 😁

Fantastic review, mate. It's nice to see someone taking the time to really dig into this one. Personally, I think anyone who balks at the price either doesn't know how deep the systems are, or just flies for Carenado the eye-candy.

@IntotheBlueSimulations

Жыл бұрын

Thanks very much Hector, really glad you enjoyed it! I try my best to do my homework ahead of time, firstly because I it's what I enjoy doing, but secondly because I think it's the only fair / decent way to give the addon a shakedown. For sure the price might seem high on the surface of it but as you say, a lot of effort has to go into getting the systems modelled to such a degree. For this sort of price point, my only gripe (as I mentioned during the video) is that I would have liked to have seen a little more work done on the flight model. Black Square also subsequently issued a massive update, with a more comprehensive failure modelling system etc - so hats off to them! Cheers and all the best : )

"Upgraded to steam gauges" I like the cut of your jib. 😆 This thing has been the talk of the town in my bush flying VA with those of us that prefer steam gauges and with myself because I love the GTN 750. The lack of WTT autopilot with the PMS50 is a little disappointing but I think I'll put this on the long list of things to eventually pick up.

@IntotheBlueSimulations

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Alexander, Haha, I realised after I said it, that probably didn't quite sit right; but then figured it was still an appropriate statement : P Generally speaking, people seem to really be enjoying the Analogue King Air. As you allude to, I do think there were a few missed opportunities with the product (especially for the price point), but it's still a big enhancement to the Caravan; so for the 208 lovers out there, it's certainly worthy of consideration. As you say, stick it on the list and perhaps wait for a sale if unsure ; ) On a different note, thank you ever so much for becoming a channel member! It's hugely appreciated and really great to know that you're enjoying the content to such a degree. Please feel free to email me at intotheblueinbox@gmail.com, for details on some of the membership "benefits". Thanks very much once again and all the best! : )

Yes what ive been waititng for! I vant wait for king air to come out. Hopefully next week.

@IntotheBlueSimulations

2 жыл бұрын

Hehe, likewise Piloto - really looking forward to the King Air myself! : )

I hope we will get that for the Bo and 172, too!

@IntotheBlueSimulations

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, the Bonanza would be great! I wonder if Black Square will bother with the C172, since technically there is already an option for one of those in the sim - I certainly hope they still do. All the best : )

I really struggled with this - I have come to love steam gauges and I always loved the Caravan - one of my favourite default planes. I gave in and bought this upgrade and I have to say i do love it. I love steam gauges and i love having a choice (in flight) of the navigation aids. The plane has always been "relatively" easy to fly so I dont know enough to say if this flight model is better or worse....but it has reinvigorated my love of the caravan. And I suspect - the King will be bought as I never liked its cockpit with the glass screens, as much as i love the plane! And of course a fair review as always, thank you!

@IntotheBlueSimulations

2 жыл бұрын

Ah well that's great to hear Mark, really glad you're enjoying it! I think these Black Square packages offer a really nice option, for those of us who aren't too enthused by glass cockpits (there seems to be a lot of us haha). The Caravan is really nice overall, although I would have expected a bit more work on the flight model given the price point. I'm really looking forward to the King Air and judging by the screenshots, it's coming along very nicely (again, I hope the flight model feature a few more improvements on this one)! Cheers, hope you're keeping well! : )

I got it, love it, presently my favorite plane, until the analog King AIR comes out lol.

@IntotheBlueSimulations

2 жыл бұрын

Great Brian, really glad you're enjoying it! I'm very much looking forward to the King Air also haha. All the best : )

Thank you for another great review. I will go ahead with this and the King Air upgrade as I am also not a big fan of glass cockpits in the sim but like both aircraft. It's also good to know some of the third party liveries can be linked to this product. Hats off to Black Square for this steam gauge project and hopefully they will provide future updates to include some of the items you mentioned, particularly the doors. Best wishes!

@IntotheBlueSimulations

2 жыл бұрын

My pleasure as always Terry! Yes, overall I think the Black Square packages are going to be a nice option for those of us who aren't all that enthused with having glass screens everywhere. I'm particularly looking forward to the King Air (it looks great), although I do hope that the flight model gets a little bit more attention. As you say, hopefully Black Square will continue to work on the products. Happy flying! : )

This was fantastic. Thanks for a great flight and review.

@IntotheBlueSimulations

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks very much indeed EG! I'm really glad you enjoyed it : ) All the best!

Great add on :) Wish they would add the float version. Such a good looking, imposing plane when it is equipped with pontoons. Haven’t found a great version of said for FS20 yet.

@IntotheBlueSimulations

2 жыл бұрын

Hi NewQLar, I gather there are a couple of freeware float versions in the works and Black Square have adapted their addon, such that it should work with the float versions once they are released : ) I hope that clarifies things a little. All the best!

Great review as usual, thanks. It looks like a really great addon, I always prefer the "old" instruments with a GTN750 over the modern G1000 or G3000. I hope Milviz will update there P-6 in the near future to give it a optional and promised steam gauge look. Love the aircraft but not fond of the G1000. I would even prefer the SWS Kodiaq with steam gauges.

@Hartbreak1

2 жыл бұрын

As far as I’m aware the real Quest Kodiak never came equipped with an analog cockpit from factory.

@antonioiozzi9171

2 жыл бұрын

​@@Hartbreak1 in fact the G1000 is standard for kodiaq100.

@IntotheBlueSimulations

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Harald, Thanks very much, I'm glad you enjoyed it! I'm 100% in the same boat as you, so I think these packages offer a nice option for those of us who prefer steam gauges - I just hope the flight models get a little more attention in the future. The Porter is indeed overdue its steam gauges at this point, although I gather quite some number of MILVIZ's developers are in Ukraine - so I think they can be forgiven on that one. . . As the other chaps point out, I'm not sure a steam gauge Kodiak was ever produced - I'd still take one though haha : P Cheers and all the best! : )

Thanks for another really great, fair and balanced review delivered in your inimitable style. Unlike some other flight sim guys that are quite clearly biased in their opinion, you say it as it is without being rude or disrespectful and with constructive criticism.

@IntotheBlueSimulations

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks very much PlamoMan, my absolute pleasure as always! I certainly try my best not to let any bias etc interfere with my reviews - the integrity of the channel means a lot to me (not to say that everyone will agree with my opinions 100% of the time). I don't like to deride other people's work, but I feel that I do it in the fairest way that I can, ie showcasing everything as thoroughly and accurately as I can and then letting people decide for themselves. I know not every dev / viewer likes my approach (and fair enough), but most seem to be receptive to it fortunately. I really enjoy creating these reviews for the most part, so it's brilliant if some find them to be useful : ) Cheers and all the best!

Thanks forvthe vid. Great review again.

@IntotheBlueSimulations

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks very much Andy! My pleasure : )

Spot on Video

@IntotheBlueSimulations

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks very much Mike! : )

Let’s hope the twin Baron is next?

@zOMGREI

2 жыл бұрын

Apparently the deluxe/premium deluxe planes are going to be unencrypted with SU X, so there's hope for that.

@jekanyika

2 жыл бұрын

The King Air is next.

@IntotheBlueSimulations

2 жыл бұрын

Indeed Jekanyika. Thanks for offering up the info! : )

@IntotheBlueSimulations

2 жыл бұрын

I would imagine Black Square may focus on the standard planes first, since everybody owns them. I could be totally wrong on that one though haha. The Baron would certainly be a very welcome addition; it’s one of the reasons I bought the upgraded version of the sim, but I don’t ever find myself flying it in actuality, because of the fidelity and the Garmin setup. Cheers! : )

@IntotheBlueSimulations

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Ken, As stated, the King Air will be next (I’m looking forward to that one personally). I don’t believe Black Square have announced their plans beyond that as of yet : ) All the best!

The FISDO at Stanley airport would like you to give him a call, concerning that starting of a turbo-prop in low light conditions, with no external lights having first been turned on. Turning the beacon on after-start does not count!

@IntotheBlueSimulations

Жыл бұрын

Haha! I shall remind the FISDO, that I was simply operating the aircraft in accordance with the "approved" checklist. If he has an issue with the procedures, take it up with Cessna! : P I agree of course re the BCN light though. I don't recall if the checklist I was using for this video, was real-world or not, but I tend to stick fairly religiously to checklists in most of my videos, since it's the only way I can keep up with the number of addons I look at. Indeed, in the aforementioned checklist, it was "lights off" until after the start. All the best : )

Wx radar works fine?

@IntotheBlueSimulations

Жыл бұрын

Hi Cassius, If memory serves me correctly, the weather does indeed work, it's just using the default MSFS implementation at the moment though. The Caravan was actually given one or two significant updates after this review and the weather radar now also doubles up as an onborad EFB, from which one can activate failures, repair systems etc. I hope that helps a little. All the best! : )

If they are really planning to overhaul the whole base fleet of MSFS, i would hope for Microsoft getting the memo and paying them for doing so. Getting fully functional (given not "studylevel", yet believable 90%ish aircrafts in the base pack for the enjoyment of everyone... would eliminate one of the main critiques on MSFS. Only if the flight models get more customized, different of course. This is asked too much for the price of the simulator, maybe this would be a great big "Realism Addon" i would certainly spend money for. Not really 25-35 times 2X bucks what they would charge when they do it (if) on their own. As always a big Gracias for producing your reviews! 💙

@zOMGREI

2 жыл бұрын

This is nothing particularly new for sims, to be honest. X-plane had those simcoders REP addons for some of the default and more basic addon planes to bring them up to a much higher standard too. It doesn't really bother me personally if default planes are fairly basic---when you're developing an entire sim, you don't have a lot of time to spare on getting a bunch of little details right on the "free" planes that come with it, especially when the vast majority of people that use the default planes either don't care about the missing functionality, or are just going to replace them with addon planes.

@IntotheBlueSimulations

2 жыл бұрын

It would certainly be nice if Asobo / Microsoft took that path Ra, but I shan't get my hopes up haha. Personally I'm OK with Asobo focusing on the sim and other devs focusing on the aircraft, but of course it would be great to see the default aircraft getting an upgrade (though I suppose some of them have been improved to be fair, albeit rather slowly). SU10 should offer up some higher fidelity freeware options though, so that's to be applauded! My pleasure as always! Happy flying : )

@IntotheBlueSimulations

2 жыл бұрын

Very true zOMGREI. I hope REP head over to MSFS at some point also. I know they tend to go into a bit more detail with the flight model of their packages etc. There are certainly plenty of beautiful default / Carenado aircraft, that are just screaming out for an upgrade : )

I fly in VR with a motion platform ( NLR V3 ), and this plane is the closest I ever felt to being in actual airplane as a pilot. Hard to describe but the suspension of disbelieve is permanent throughout the whole flight. Just knowing that every switch works, even though some of them you never bother to touch, adds immensely to that feeling. Since I am not an actual pilot, I do not know how accurate the flight model is, but it sure feels better than the Kodiak, which requires an unbelievable amount of torque juggling on approach. It just never seems to be gradual in its changes, maybe that is more realistic, but since you cannot follow the POH of the Kodiak, lest you want to crash, I prefer the Caravan’s model.

@IntotheBlueSimulations

Жыл бұрын

Wow, lucky you QBziZ, sounds like an awesome setup! I'm really glad you're enjoying the Black Square Caravan, may I also recommend their King Air for the same reasons you mention (the Black Square King Air is every bit as good and then some, in my opinion). Happy flying and all the best! : )

@QBziZ

Жыл бұрын

@@IntotheBlueSimulations It’s next on my list. Indeed I am very happy with my setup. A motion platform adds to the experience, but it’s not always fun-and-games, turbulence sometimes makes me wonder why I put myself through all that torture.

@IntotheBlueSimulations

Жыл бұрын

Haha! That still sounds pretty amazing to me. I have a VR headset and a transducer fixed to my seat; that already brings a lot of immersion - I can only imagine what a motion platform must do! : )

Is it possible to remove the cargopod beneath?

@IntotheBlueSimulations

Жыл бұрын

I don’t believe so Anders, no. The product makes use of the default Caravan external model and so is subject to the same limitations. I hope that clarifies things a little. All the best! : )

Any idea if the Orbx SA and the black box steam, will be coming too xbox

@IntotheBlueSimulations

Жыл бұрын

Hi Fire Fox, Not sure on that one I'm afraid. If the previous Orbx meshes are over on the console, then I would say that there is a high likelihood that the SA mesh will get the same treatment. I don't know whether Black Square plan on porting their Analogue Caravan; as far as I am aware, there is no technical reason why this wouldn't be possible, although as with many other devs / addons, they may be waiting for the WASM coding issues on the console to be fixed. Sorry I can't offer up any more concrete info there. All the best ! : )

Out of curiosity, do you have this checklist online?

@IntotheBlueSimulations

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Hypen, I can't remember exactly where I got it from I'm afraid, but you can find a real-world C208 checklist here: www.freechecklists.net/Resources/Cessna/208+Caravan+_+Grand+Caravan/ I hope that helps! All the best : )

Great video, just some feedback, the sound is very clippy from your microphone in this one, feels a bit like you're shouting into my ear today ;).

@IntotheBlueSimulations

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks very much for the feedback Prabe. Haha, sorry about that and I very much agree. I picked up a new microphone recently and I'm still dialling it in at the moment. Unfortunately I didn't realise until I had finished the recording, that this particular setup was less than optimal. Things should have improved in subsequent videos (I hope). All the best! : )

Yo IBS. TB here. Hope you are well and free of illness and disease 😅 I have a problem doing coupled basic ILS approaches. There are 2 buttons below the CDi/VOR thingey... NAV/GPS ... and a GPS/APPR button. What is the latter used for ? If I do a basic HDG intercept and activate Appr on the autopilot it doesn't always intercept it and fly it. Although it does show as Armed and Captured in the AP display. This GPS/APPR button is a mystery and no doubt has something to do with it. There is no mention of this basic stuff in the manual... just loads of stuff on the Rnav system. Thnx.

@IntotheBlueSimulations

Жыл бұрын

Hi TB, Yes, all good here thanks, cough cough XD To tell you the truth, I’m not 100% sure on that one myself. My educated guess, is that it’s used for flying coupled GPS approaches, or is otherwise related to the RNAV unit, but I haven’t tested it myself and haven’t come across such a button in the real world (most of the GA aircraft I have flown were pretty basic though). Have you tried watching some of the official Black Square videos? I haven’t had a chance to watch them myself, but I’d imagine they *might* cover that functionality. I’m not sure why the aircraft isn’t capturing the ILS though, I’ve had no problems in that regard myself. . . Sorry I can’t be of more help on that one. All the best once again! : )

@TrueBlade-1889

Жыл бұрын

@@IntotheBlueSimulations Hi. It appears that button is actually inop .... so it can be ignored. Somewhat annoying. And my ILS approaches are better if I take a very shallow intercept course !

@IntotheBlueSimulations

Жыл бұрын

Ah, well that is a pain, but also solves the riddle haha! Thanks for letting me know. Unfortunately, ILS approaches in MSFS still tend to be rather sub par (I’m really not sure why, as I’d imagine it’s actually relatively simple to program), so a shallow intercept is always the best way to go ; ) Cheers!

@TrueBlade-1889

Жыл бұрын

@@IntotheBlueSimulations Agreed. It appears the stck AP is not as capable as the PMDG 747 for P3D. I am now nursing it onto a narrow intercept path, getting into landing config and it's behaved itsrlf thus far.

@IntotheBlueSimulations

Жыл бұрын

Haha, the stock MSFS autopilot isn’t even as capable as the stock FS98 autopilot XD As much as I love MSFS, it has some catching up to do when it comes to autopilots, taxiway markings, ATC etc. . .

Might just get this one but what’s happening with the Tomahawk. 50 pounds worth of JF vouchers sitting here Burning a hole in my pocket.

@justflight

2 жыл бұрын

It's still happening and is in development. There will be more to see on it in the coming weeks. Release a month or two away probably. Looking great though!

@caiazzo123

2 жыл бұрын

@@justflight that’s absolutely fabulous I can’t wait.

@IntotheBlueSimulations

2 жыл бұрын

I'm sure it will be well worth the wait Mav! ; )

@caiazzo123

2 жыл бұрын

@@IntotheBlueSimulations I do reckon with just flight you will be the 1st to test it out. I’ve just got to wait for that email. 👍🏼

Wow talk about short takeoffs. You sure that thing isn't a whirly bird?

Test.

@IntotheBlueSimulations

Жыл бұрын

If you're testing whether the comment worked - all good buddy! : )

This seems pretty bare bones for an add on imo. Awesome review as always!

@IntotheBlueSimulations

2 жыл бұрын

I think that's somewhat fair criticism SN. The product itself is actually very good (ie the gauges and systems depth are great), but at this sort of price point, I would have liked to have seen other areas improved further as well, namely the flight modelling. Everyone that has purchased the product seems to be very happy with it; as always I suppose it just comes down to personal preference, as to whether or not the package is worth the asking price. Cheers and all the best! : )

I love the steam gauge cockpit but I feel the price is quite steep for only a cockpit improvement. That’s the price of a full aircraft. If they did full systems and flight modeling then it would be more compelling even if they use the default external 3D model.

@IntotheBlueSimulations

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Hartbreak, Yes, you definitely aren't the only one that feels this way. The package is a very solid effort, but it is hard to justify the pricing, when we're now seeing study level jets coming in at the same sort of price point. Personally at this sort of price, I would have liked to have seen more work on the flight model at least. As always though, it just comes down to individual preference at the end of the day. To be fair, most people that have purchased, seem to be very happy with the Analogue Caravan overall. All the best! : )

I love steam gauges and the Caravan, but this is entirely overpriced for what is delivered. Glad to hear that the new Orbx mesh looks good! Nice flight, thanks!

@IntotheBlueSimulations

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Myles, The package itself is very good, but you're correct that it is somewhat hard to justify the price point, especially when we now have complete "study level" jets coming out for the same sorts of money. I tend not to comment on price, as I think it's totally up to the individual, whether or not a product offers good value for money, but personally I would have at least liked to have seen a more study level flight model included in the package. The people that have purchased the Analogue Caravan, do seem to be enjoying it a lot though. As always the Orbx Mesh is very nice. Cheers and all the best! : )

@NoticalMyles

2 жыл бұрын

I will keep the analog caravan in my list of prospective addons. It does look nice! Your demonstrations are much appreciated! Many thanks

@IntotheBlueSimulations

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks very much Myles, my pleasure! : )

Good, but very expensive

@IntotheBlueSimulations

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Edward, I think that's fair. The product is great, but a little bit hard to justify the price point perhaps, when we now have "study level" jets releasing for similar sorts of money. I think an overhaul of the flight model is really to be expected at this sort of price point as well. All the best : )