Kwame coming with an analysis that is timeless. Today our biggest issue is still organization. To this day we're still doing mass mobilization and when we try to organize like in Flint we're met with Cointelpro and black moderate opportunists.

@LabzDex

5 жыл бұрын

tdavis9610 brother you should look up the International People’s Democratic Uhuru Movement (InPDUM). This organization embodies Ture’s stance of Organization > Mobilization and has been consistently leading campaigns and building institutions to serve our people and lead our liberation struggle. You’d fit in well there brother

@HURT108

5 ай бұрын

The only thing keeping capitalism standing atm is people's lack of organization

Kwame Ture is the truth

@waimbuthia820

3 жыл бұрын

Kwame Ture was a gem. So intelligent, handsome & regal! He may be gone but his legacy remains. I'm happy that, like DuBois, Ture decided to move to Ghana where he lived until he died. May God keep his soul in eternal peace.

@LuqmanNation

3 жыл бұрын

@@waimbuthia820 Elaine Brown was just as awesome.

@waimbuthia820

3 жыл бұрын

@@LuqmanNation Goodness, yes!

Marcus Mosiah Garvey once said Be black love black and think black. Black power brother Nkwame Ture.

Elaine Brown laid it DOWN !!! 🌺✊👊🙏🎩💥

@christiandavis3417

2 жыл бұрын

She’s a fuckin fed and did more to kill the BPP than anyone

@buttervisionproductions4044

2 жыл бұрын

SO DID RUBADIRI VICTOR - BLESS

@TheGreatness-gg1jx

2 ай бұрын

Love Elaine but she's half dead wrong. Africa doesn't have a GD thing to do with us, OR ANYONE ELSE. They are all trying to BE LIKE us, to get to OUR country. You lose all notion of Self and positive Identity when you say you shouldn't think like an owner in the country your ancestors built from scratch. That's why you don't hear anyone else in this hemisphere talking about "we're lost in our country and should be somewhere else." This disorientation ia the root of EVERYTHING wrong and dysfunctional about us.

Your channel is honestly one the best things on KZread. Thank you so much for sharing these clips

I'm upset that Crouch is disrespecting Kwame Ture by addressing him by his former name. At first I thought Crouch had made an honest mistake because he apologized & subsequently corrected himself, but the second time it was obviously deliberate. Btw Elaine Brown is nauseated by Crouch, you can tell. LOL

@theblackcyde2506

Жыл бұрын

He was truly unbearable, only thing worst than being disrespectful is that he was clearly overwhelmed by this subject matter and should’ve stuck to jazz critique

@Brooklyn_Tzu

3 ай бұрын

Even his Jazz critiques sucked and Jazz artists routinely gave him the business for his takes lol​@@theblackcyde2506

Kwame Ture is my hero. His analysis of the black struggle is no different than that of Nkumah. He has stay the cause to this very day. I believed in his ideals and philosophy.

I'm mesmerized by Ture, Brown, and Ellison. I wish I could hear the 3 talk over coffee for hours.....You'd get all the perspectives...

LORD HAVE MERCY!! THE HEAVY WEIGHTS [ TURE/BROWN ] VS..negros...AWESOME PRESENTATION

@antoniobarksdale4579

4 жыл бұрын

Elaine Brown you go lady!!

@kharigraves1963

3 жыл бұрын

Elaine was an agent 🤷🏿‍♂️

@jazziccoolcat

2 жыл бұрын

@@kharigraves1963 I agree! But the tragedy is that she is a very convincing agent. However, Kwame Ture is far from being an agent. He never sold out his people and never had anything on him that exposes his betrayal to the people like Elaine Brown.

Surely they did not call these seven people together for a 20 min panel discussion. I'm assuming only 20 minutes were allocated for the News Hour program. I'm sure Dr. Ture went deeper into "reforms vs power" and "organization vs mobilization." Each person's specific solution would have been great.

@r.p.5903

3 жыл бұрын

Right?

@buttervisionproductions4044

2 жыл бұрын

MORE IS COMING

I love how he said comrade.

@petduro

2 жыл бұрын

that clown use to be a comrade before he started tap dancing

My postscript to this; Hunter-Gault has lost her way. I met her last year in Tampa. It was brief. I recognized her at the Tampa airport and wanted to say Hi. When I asked her what she was doing these days, she said she's still a journalist on the News Hour and does "Conversations" with important people. I had forgotten this much older panel when I suggested she add Angela Davis to her list. She made a face and said that "she's not someone who fits my program." I was disappointed by the strange response and so did not even have the heart to post the encounter on Facebook. Hunter-Gault was not someone who fit my program either. I can only imagine from her answer and her tone that this particular panel she was TOLD to do, and that she does what she is TOLD.

why he look like uncle ruckus

KWAME TURE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

💚❤️🖤KWAME IS A LEGEND!

I love how Kwame Ture tore down Crouch argument by discussing how regardless of race the material conditions were still the same. Calling him comrade was a nice touch, I can’t believe crouch used BILL COSBY and Michael Jordan as evidence of progress

Well, at least Stanley is consistent, still hopp-scotching on the White and Black border til this very day.

Would love to hear their views today (those who are still alive).

It's not just about political power. Black people need a social and economic PLAN.

@MsTexas73

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly

@snotrohmitabc123

2 жыл бұрын

"The solution is economic. The prerequisite is political." Quoted from Stokely Carmichael's lecture here (time stamp: 49:13): kzread.info/dash/bejne/n5yG18yQgdybhM4.html

Sad that we don't have enough sense of Self to have these conversations in private.....

Great channel

Thank you for sharing. Is there a longer version of this discussion?

Love it.

One thing I think we need to realize is that Black progress,especially economic progress,may never be even for all Blacks. Because different Blacks can have different opportunities and circumstances depending on where they live. The job opportunities for Blacks in Detroit may not be the same as it is for Blacks living in Washington D.C for example. Also another factor is personal ambition. Not all Blacks are going to have the same amounts of ambition. Differences with this can cause there to be differences among Blacks and upward mobility.

@nicoles3166

Жыл бұрын

i disagree. obviously you are right to some degree but i believe these differences come from economic or material inequality. economic and racial progress are different. in order for us to have real equality we need racial and economic progress. marxism is liberating only by tearing down social stratification and flattening class divides.

Crouch desperately needed an aggressive dental reconfiguration.

1993 - 2023...everything has changed...yet everything is still the same...thought is like water...its always changes...when black people realize that water is the most powerful element which according to the hopi prophesy...the realization of that will become reality.

"I'm not impressed because Michael Jordan got a contract with Nike." Hahahahah! Seriously, who gives a fu---

5:24 I think that's Nat Hentoff

I wonder if any of them saw a Black president coming?

@tgerard3860

3 жыл бұрын

lol obama was a neocolonialist puppet.

@CrowdPleeza

3 жыл бұрын

@@tgerard3860 Can you give some examples of that?

@tgerard3860

3 жыл бұрын

@@CrowdPleeza caricom asked the US to join their reparations claim against england, france, belgium, netherlands etc. obama refused. in 2016 obama dropped 26,171 bombs on black and brown people on the african continent and the asian continent. black wealth was decimated under obama. black folk held / tend to hold our wealth in our homes. the subprime mortgage scandal that targeted black folk and led to the crash in 2008 should've been a wake up call. obama sided with wall street and the banks. I have more, let me know if I should go on.

@Samsam-vq4se

3 жыл бұрын

@@CrowdPleeza obama expanded the militarization of the continent, Africa. He waged war and coup and so many nations.

Why didn't Mr. Crouch have chapstick on hand on this day?

All offered good insights, apart from Patricia Williams-- unfounded tabloid rumors about wanting a white boy to play Jackson in a film seemed a silly offeringto the discussion.. a rare treat to see Ralph Ellison, whose book sadly remains relevant to this day.

@sknmwms6516

Жыл бұрын

Jackson wanted bright DAMNED near white to play him. Jackson said that himself!

listening to Crouch speak was just listening to him speak in circles and circles. Pure gibberish. No different from today when you spit facts at people thats all they do especially when speaking of Capitalism and how unethical it is lol

Crouch a true NEGROPEAN!

What Derrick Bell said was absurd - being 'an evil.' I am glad that Stanley Crouch checked him.

American Black leaders are not emphasizing to young blacks to stay in school, follow American laws, avoid drug use, guns, violence and support the mothers of their young children and all their children always! Blacks lead every category indicating their struggle to obtain the "American Dream" life. Most young Blacks dream of a career in sports, entertainment, etc., but they are not encouraged to have backup plan which should include graduating from high school, then graduating from a trade school, college or military training. American Blacks are fortunate to have an American citizenship, which most of the world will never have. Encourage young blacks to take advantage of this opportunity!

Stanley Crouch per usual is laughably inept at these conversations, his pompous and veiled insulted at Kwame Ture were terribly childish. Always necessary to have diverse thought in order to maximize conversation but he was in over his head

@voiceoftheancestors #voiceoftheancestors sent me here!!!!!!!