BLACK METAL and DEATH METAL. (Genre differences)

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What's the difference between Black Metal and Death Metal?
Today we're exploring the differences and similarities between Black Metal and Death Metal. Both are considered extreme metal genres but today I'm going to try to break them down and explain the differences between the genres.
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Timestamps:
00:00 Intro
00:36 Origins
01:14 Sound Differences
03:10 Lyrical Differences
04:59 Image Differences
06:06 Key Differences
06:58 Black Vs Death Soundclips
09:21 Summary
THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN BLACK AND DEATH METAL.
Featuring bands such as: Death, Cannibal Corpse, Mayhem, Dissection, Burzum, Dark Funeral, Venom, Bathory, Obituary, Autopsy, Mayhem, Entombed, At the Gates, Grave, Dismember, Morbid Angel & Bolt Thrower.
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  • @MetalPersonJ
    @MetalPersonJ6 ай бұрын

    Another difference I've been noticing is that on a lot of black metal there aren't really any guitar solos whereas on death metal there usually are more solos then there are not.

  • @RuthlessMetalYT

    @RuthlessMetalYT

    6 ай бұрын

    yes

  • @AleXMartinez-ot4fl
    @AleXMartinez-ot4fl6 ай бұрын

    You can add melody to black metal and it remains black metal, if you add melody to death metal it becomes a very different genre

  • @RuthlessMetalYT

    @RuthlessMetalYT

    6 ай бұрын

    it's still called melodic death metal or melo death. :)

  • @euronymous2487

    @euronymous2487

    5 ай бұрын

    try listening at: DEATH METAL VS PINK FLOYD

  • @derjeniche5409

    @derjeniche5409

    5 ай бұрын

    I think many so called Melodic Death bands are more Melodic Death/Black/Power/Thrash bands

  • @thalesvasconcellos2086
    @thalesvasconcellos20866 ай бұрын

    This is defenitely one of the most interesting videos i've watched on this channel. Great work man! Do you have plans to do more of these? It'd be interesting to see more genre comparisons.

  • @RuthlessMetalYT

    @RuthlessMetalYT

    6 ай бұрын

    I've done one before speed vs thrash. I might do more some day, we'll see.

  • @thalesvasconcellos2086

    @thalesvasconcellos2086

    6 ай бұрын

    @@RuthlessMetalYT I missed that first video. Gotta go check it out.

  • @RuthlessMetalYT

    @RuthlessMetalYT

    6 ай бұрын

    do it! ;)

  • @Mofos_of_Metal
    @Mofos_of_Metal6 ай бұрын

    Awesome video! The fascinating thing about these subgenres is that they both originated from pushing extremity, but just developed in different ways. A lot of the mid-80s early Extreme Metal is just bands trying to break boundaries and be more extreme, they didn't have a "style" in mind. Look at Vulcano's Bloody Vengeance from 1986 - people call it Black/Death/Thrash - seems confusing but it makes perfect sense because subgenres are only labels for things that have evolved to the point of distinct separation, and these styles hadn't fully evolved yet. Later on - Blackened Death Metal became a think in the 90s, and that felt like the evil twins who were separated at birth coming together again, except this time combining their more evolved, second generation forms together as opposed to their first generation beginnings. So an album in the mid-80s that gets labelled Black/Death is that way purely by accident due to their similar origins, but Black/Death in the 90s was a consequence of bands deliberately combining influences after each side became more distinct and separate.

  • @RuthlessMetalYT

    @RuthlessMetalYT

    6 ай бұрын

    yeah, you could throw in thrash there as well. they all kinda spawned from the same bunch of albums. The early works of venom, hellhammer, slayer, etc.

  • @MetalPersonJ
    @MetalPersonJ6 ай бұрын

    Love these videos! Suggestions for the future: doom vs stoner grindcore vs death metal Speed metal vs. power metal

  • @paravan2000

    @paravan2000

    6 ай бұрын

    Grindcore and death metal are basically the same thing, only the first was invented by punks and the second by metalheads.

  • @RuthlessMetalYT

    @RuthlessMetalYT

    5 ай бұрын

    Cheers!

  • @stevsh89
    @stevsh896 ай бұрын

    Great informative video. I love the melting pot of extreme metal formation in the early 80s and how bands were taking inspiration from each other and pushing the boundaries one way or another.

  • @RuthlessMetalYT

    @RuthlessMetalYT

    6 ай бұрын

    thanks cheerios

  • @Mantis.Sartinoli
    @Mantis.Sartinoli6 ай бұрын

    Great video! Maybe next you can focus on the differences between Power Metal and Speed Metal/Traditional Heavy Metal since there are certain bands that kind of blur the lines such as Hammerfall, Primal Fear, etc

  • @RuthlessMetalYT

    @RuthlessMetalYT

    6 ай бұрын

    we'll see what the future holds.

  • @smez
    @smez6 ай бұрын

    When you listed the lyrical themes, I could only think of: 1. Anti-Christian: Where No Ghost is Holy, by Dismember 2. Misanthropic - Misanthropic, by Dismember 3. Evil - Souldevourer, by Dismember 4. Pagan - Tides of Blood, by Dismember 5. Introspective - Life, Another Shape of Sorrow, by Dismember 6. Morbid - Reborn in Blasphemy, by Dismember 7. Gore - Bleed For Me, by Dismember 8. War - Europa Burns, by Dismember 9. Political - Thanatology, by Dismember 10. Less Serious - Ceremonial Comedy, by Dismember 11. Slasher - Skin Her Alive, by Dismember 12. Science Fiction - Bred For War, by Dismember 😂😂😂

  • @RuthlessMetalYT

    @RuthlessMetalYT

    6 ай бұрын

    Good list, Cheers!

  • @heliogabalomendoza
    @heliogabalomendoza6 ай бұрын

    Love both styles with a burning passion. I find that black metal is better suited for nights and lonely clouded days. DM is for gym and work.

  • @nagash6406

    @nagash6406

    6 ай бұрын

    Ah ah, very good reasons!!

  • @Heavymetalforever66

    @Heavymetalforever66

    6 ай бұрын

    👎👎👎👎👎👎💩💩💩💩💩💩

  • @RuthlessMetalYT

    @RuthlessMetalYT

    5 ай бұрын

    Cheers!

  • @dieterkurek6381
    @dieterkurek63816 ай бұрын

    Good work as always, thank you!

  • @RuthlessMetalYT

    @RuthlessMetalYT

    6 ай бұрын

    Cheers!

  • @mykneeshurt8393
    @mykneeshurt83936 ай бұрын

    Great video. You should put the link to the Thrash vs. Speed video in the description. Metal Rules!

  • @RuthlessMetalYT

    @RuthlessMetalYT

    6 ай бұрын

    it's in the end of the video. ;)

  • @PaulNathan-dq1br
    @PaulNathan-dq1br6 ай бұрын

    Thanks for this one-very enjoyable

  • @RuthlessMetalYT

    @RuthlessMetalYT

    6 ай бұрын

    thank you!

  • @RuthlessMetalYT
    @RuthlessMetalYT6 ай бұрын

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  • @FadirDungeon
    @FadirDungeon6 ай бұрын

    It's funny (and kind of weird to me) but when Dissection released their first two albums it was considered to be death metal at the time. Ole Öhman (drummer on those two records) has even stated himself that Dissection was a death metal band and those two albums were death metal albums. Today most people think that those two albums are black metal, including me.

  • @RuthlessMetalYT

    @RuthlessMetalYT

    6 ай бұрын

    yeah, that can sometimes happen.

  • @eon14873

    @eon14873

    5 ай бұрын

    Blackened death metal. I'd say it leaning more towards black but of course both genres are happy brothers

  • @tommygallagher2542
    @tommygallagher25426 ай бұрын

    I do think the lyrical content can be different. Lots of death metal does use satanic imagery but lots of death metal bands were talking about personal struggles, political issues, gore, drugs, and comedy here and there

  • @RuthlessMetalYT

    @RuthlessMetalYT

    6 ай бұрын

    yes sir!

  • @bryandeans9949
    @bryandeans99496 ай бұрын

    Good commentaries bro cheers

  • @RuthlessMetalYT

    @RuthlessMetalYT

    6 ай бұрын

    thanks, cheerios!

  • @LuchaLibertaria
    @LuchaLibertaria6 ай бұрын

    Cool informative video! I would say Death Metal is closely linked with the Hardcore Punk Scene whereas Black Metal has very little Hardcore influences and a lot of the fanbase is like "no mosh, no pogo". you dont really see many skater dudes going to Black Metal shows ;)

  • @RuthlessMetalYT

    @RuthlessMetalYT

    6 ай бұрын

    yeah, I agree. Dancing ain't really a black metal thing. haha

  • @elimalinsky7069

    @elimalinsky7069

    6 ай бұрын

    Interesting. I was always under the impression that black metal has a lot in common with harcore punk, especially first wave bands like Hellhammer, Bathory and Sodom and some very early Mayhem material. Hardcore punk, especially the underground European scene in the early 80s sounded surprisingly similar to some early black metal. In terms of attitude there's definitely some similarities there. I personally believe that hardcore punk is often downplayed when discussing the evolution of extreme metal genres. While there was very little if any influence of punk on NWOBHM and associated or parallel scenes, there was definitely a strong influence on thrash, death and black metal subgenres.

  • @paravan2000

    @paravan2000

    6 ай бұрын

    ​@@elimalinsky7069 There was A LOT of influence from punk in NWOBHM scene and vice versa. Venom, Tank, Warfare, Amebix, Iron Maiden, Demon, Satan, Discharge, Broken Bones, English Dogs...

  • @elimalinsky7069

    @elimalinsky7069

    6 ай бұрын

    @@paravan2000 Well, at least in the case for Iron Maiden there are multiple interviews of Steve Harris claiming to despise punk music and denying that Maiden were influenced by punk. I think the original Eddie artwork on that first album got some people confused because that genuinly looked like flyer art for a punk gig. I agree about Tank though, that band had some strong punk vibes. Not sure about the other bands, but Venom was very much influenced by Black Sabbath, Judas Priest and Motorhead, with the latter of the bunch being the most punkish of them all. Lemmy also used to claim he generally regarded Motorhead as more of a punk band than a metal band.

  • @paravan2000

    @paravan2000

    5 ай бұрын

    @@elimalinsky7069 First two Maiden LPs had a strong street punk vibe. Although Steve Harris disliked punk, Paul Di Anno was a punk rocker. Such contradictions between members and opinions existed in many other bands on both sides at the time, because there were both the influences and rivalries between punk and heavy metal scenes. Motorhead was the first "crossover" band as both punks and metalheads attended their gigs and Lemmy was in touch with both scenes, he was teaching Sid Vicious to play bass etc. Venom were strongly influenced by Motorhead and Sex Pistols, lots of punks attended their shows too. Tank and Warfare were bands with ex The Damned members. Amebix were a squatter punks who were into heavy metal and played their own version of metal which would later influence so many bands on both sides. Demon was on punk label and shared the management with The Exploited and Discharge. Discharge basically invented hardcore but also thrash and were a key influence for most thrash metal bands (including Metallica, Kreator, Hellhammer, Sepultura etc), before regressing into a bad heavy metal band in late 80s. Broken Bones were a band with ex Discharge members who played it better than Discharge in their later distinctly metal phase. English Dogs started as punk rock band who soon evolved to speed/power metal. Diamond Head were also influenced by punk, Brian Tatler many times cited how his songwriting got important push when he attended first punk gigs, in a way - I was learning a classical guitar for years but had difficulties writing a song - seeing these guys blasting with so little skills inspired me to do it right etc. Judas Priest also took some influence from punk, their songwriting became more streamlined since British Steel... There were also lots of crossovers between both scenes outside of UK at the time - Mercyful Fate being one with punk ties - Denner and Shermann played in punk rock band Brats before joining Mercyful Fate... and so on.

  • @lucamantaluta1653
    @lucamantaluta16536 ай бұрын

    I love your videos ruthless metal❤🤘

  • @RuthlessMetalYT

    @RuthlessMetalYT

    6 ай бұрын

    thanks man! I love your comments. haha 🤘

  • @lucamantaluta1653

    @lucamantaluta1653

    6 ай бұрын

    BTW: I am 12 years old kid from Romania that listens to metal🤘🤩

  • @metalsoul89
    @metalsoul896 ай бұрын

    Nice explanation and nice samples!!! it would be nice to compare another sub-genres

  • @RuthlessMetalYT

    @RuthlessMetalYT

    6 ай бұрын

    I did speed vs. thrash. Cheers!

  • @derjeniche5409
    @derjeniche54095 ай бұрын

    great explanation and channel

  • @RuthlessMetalYT

    @RuthlessMetalYT

    5 ай бұрын

    thanks man!

  • @cannibal666
    @cannibal6666 ай бұрын

    Two of my favorite genre's listened too both from the early days 💥🤘👹🎸

  • @RuthlessMetalYT

    @RuthlessMetalYT

    6 ай бұрын

    cheers

  • @euronymous2487

    @euronymous2487

    5 ай бұрын

    cannibal please seeing in youtube at: DEATH METAL VS PINK FLOYD thanks

  • @DahmerJ17
    @DahmerJ175 ай бұрын

    Skriver detta innan jag sett videon. Nu spelar du på min planhalva! Detta ska bli intressant!!! Återkommer..... Tillbaks! Bra sammanfattning överlag. Kanske skulle jag säga att Dissection inte är Black Metal, utan mer en egen genre mellan Black/Death. SKÅL! 🤘🤘

  • @RuthlessMetalYT

    @RuthlessMetalYT

    5 ай бұрын

    ja, Dissection står väl mitt emellan egentligen. skål!

  • @foxedrey622
    @foxedrey6223 ай бұрын

    My first experience of Black metal vs. Death metal was when I went to a Knotfest Concert in 2019; wherein, the band Behemoth performed first on stage, and then was followed by Gojira. The differences were very distinct!

  • @RuthlessMetalYT

    @RuthlessMetalYT

    3 ай бұрын

    yeah, not sure if Gojira is death metal but yeah, certainly a difference between those bands.

  • @MetalPersonJ
    @MetalPersonJ6 ай бұрын

    5:03 "Everyone looks like a panda that has seen some shit"😆

  • @RuthlessMetalYT

    @RuthlessMetalYT

    6 ай бұрын

    You know it. hehe Cheers! 🤘

  • @jesurenbnb
    @jesurenbnb6 ай бұрын

    Do a rank em all for death angel! Also the way to tell, what is death metal, and what is black metal is really easier than thrash and speed, aka the vocals.

  • @RuthlessMetalYT

    @RuthlessMetalYT

    6 ай бұрын

    I might. :) hehe

  • @panoskarliotis382
    @panoskarliotis3825 ай бұрын

    nice video again :) I prefer death metal to black metal, but I hear black metal as well, I have heard many albums from both genres

  • @RuthlessMetalYT

    @RuthlessMetalYT

    5 ай бұрын

    cheers

  • @bryandeans9949
    @bryandeans99496 ай бұрын

    One simple comparison if it sounds like the Nazgul from Lord of the Rings( Black Metal), if it sounds like the Cookie Monster (Death Metal)

  • @RuthlessMetalYT

    @RuthlessMetalYT

    6 ай бұрын

    Yes. haha

  • @Ubruxum
    @UbruxumАй бұрын

    cheers from Ubruxum, Deathgrind from Canada

  • @RuthlessMetalYT

    @RuthlessMetalYT

    Ай бұрын

    Cheers!

  • @toksic424
    @toksic4246 ай бұрын

    This was a very interesting video. Out of curiosity which of the two subgenres do you prefer?

  • @RuthlessMetalYT

    @RuthlessMetalYT

    6 ай бұрын

    I don't know, I mostly just listen to Death and Bathory and not much else. :) haha

  • @imperialtutor8687
    @imperialtutor86872 ай бұрын

    Most early black metal and even proto black metal bands transitioned in or out of death metal. Mayhem for example was a death metal band before their infamous first album. Venom and bathory were of course speed/thrash that transitioned. Selputura was sorta proto black on their first two albums but became a big death metal band. There are also a lot of bands that do both.

  • @RuthlessMetalYT

    @RuthlessMetalYT

    Ай бұрын

    cheers! 🤘

  • @JonasFilberg
    @JonasFilberg6 ай бұрын

    I like both

  • @RuthlessMetalYT

    @RuthlessMetalYT

    6 ай бұрын

    cheers

  • @dylanwolf1773
    @dylanwolf17735 ай бұрын

    Black metal has a lot, a lot, a lot of blast beats, even more so than Death metal I think. So that's the only part I would disagree with. Death metal tends to have slower, heavier sections with more chugging that breaks up the monotony. Black metal tends to have a lot more blast beats with tremolo riffs to create a dark and bleak atmosphere.

  • @RuthlessMetalYT

    @RuthlessMetalYT

    5 ай бұрын

    Cheers!

  • @xraygamer9895

    @xraygamer9895

    4 ай бұрын

    That wouldn’t be because black metal necessarily uses more blast beats, but rather in the fact that death metal has a lot more variation in the songs. It is a lot more common for a death metal song to go from tremolo picking to chuga chuga in the span of a minute as opposed to black metal

  • @buffalodebill7986
    @buffalodebill79866 ай бұрын

    A bit OT.. I have always had that one single-but-major problem with black metal bands, which was (most of the time) the production of their records. I can always recall the shock of first time hearing Immortal's 1999 record 'At the Heart of Winter' - what a blast and loads of auditory pleasures that one was - and it continued up until 'Northern Chaos Gods', which, IMHO, was a bit of a step back.. But my personal precedent and preference was already set, so though I'm fine with music of other BM giants like Emperor and Gorgoth, it's really that messy, crammed sound, that, most of the time, makes me prefer listening to death metal. LbnL quite a good video analysis - thumbs up 🙂

  • @RuthlessMetalYT

    @RuthlessMetalYT

    6 ай бұрын

    thanks man, yeah, bm is colder and messier. :) Cheers!

  • @TotinosOtherBoy

    @TotinosOtherBoy

    6 ай бұрын

    I agree. I think metal just always sounds better with a bassier better production to let the rhythmic punch hit you good. The lo fi mixing style just works much better with the messiness of punk and with the more personal sound of like alt/indie types of rock

  • @BrainDead_Ed_102-gz9zp
    @BrainDead_Ed_102-gz9zp6 ай бұрын

    Yeah this is real quality content But i didn’t know that Destruction was a influence to the Black/Death Bands/Music

  • @RuthlessMetalYT

    @RuthlessMetalYT

    6 ай бұрын

    look at their first EP. It's as early and as heavy as the early work of the most influential bands of extreme metal.

  • @dannykrinkle4726
    @dannykrinkle47266 ай бұрын

    Black metal imagery should include snowy forests or mountaintops

  • @RuthlessMetalYT

    @RuthlessMetalYT

    6 ай бұрын

    yes, lots of forests!

  • @malakasquad2214
    @malakasquad22146 ай бұрын

    I like both styles, Black and Death are very broad. Whether I listen to one or the other is more a matter of mood. 😎🤘

  • @RuthlessMetalYT

    @RuthlessMetalYT

    6 ай бұрын

    cheers

  • @liquidcancer4573
    @liquidcancer45732 ай бұрын

    Hey could you explain what the difference is between "chugging" riffs and "palm muted" riffs?

  • @RuthlessMetalYT

    @RuthlessMetalYT

    2 ай бұрын

    it's kinda the same I would say. You mute the riffs with your palm when you play so so the tones don't ring out as much which makes the riff sounds chunkier. :D

  • @RuthlessMetalYT

    @RuthlessMetalYT

    2 ай бұрын

    I'm not a guitarist either so I'm not the best person to ask these things, I just enjoy the music.

  • @liquidcancer4573

    @liquidcancer4573

    2 ай бұрын

    @@RuthlessMetalYT Ah alright fair enough. Yeah I am a guitarist and I was just wondering what the difference was since you were talking about them separately. I guess palm muting doesn't necessarily mean that the riff is chugging. for example there's a lot of palm muting in thrash metal but it's not chuggy, whereas death metal usually has those riffs where it's just a bunch of powerchords played with palm muting. I would call those riffs chuggy. Kind of similar to how one of the riffs in Metallica's "for whom the bell tolls" is played now I think of it

  • @RuthlessMetalYT

    @RuthlessMetalYT

    2 ай бұрын

    @@liquidcancer4573 yeah, I would say so.

  • @paravan2000
    @paravan20006 ай бұрын

    I think the main difference comes from origins of both. Black metal is older than death metal. Proto BM bands appeared BEFORE thrash, while proto DM bands came AFTER the thrash being established. So it pushed the evolution of both styles in different directions. In other words, first Angel Witch, Venom, Demon and Mercyful Fate releases were the prototypes where black metal started to evolve, and then applied to all kinds of theatrical metal bands with satanic/occult theme. Then you got debuts of Metallica, Voivod and Kreator as proto DM, as being more focused on violence, war, psychopathy and less about occult horror. There were proto black/death bands like early Possessed, Sepultura and Slayer - very extreme and aggressive thrash, but black metal lyrics. Deicide, Morbid Angel, Blasphemy, Beherit, Impaled Nazarene etc are 90s examples of that.

  • @RuthlessMetalYT

    @RuthlessMetalYT

    6 ай бұрын

    yeah, but both of 'em have bands like venom and possessed as origins. ;)

  • @uuu098
    @uuu0985 ай бұрын

    Ruthless Metal guy, if you had to pick one genre over the other, which one would you choose? I am more of a death metal guy. What do you think of Burzum? Do you think they (he) are overrated?

  • @RuthlessMetalYT

    @RuthlessMetalYT

    5 ай бұрын

    I don't like Burzum. I'm not that much into either genre tbh. I would probably go for death metal since it's closest to thrash. hehe.

  • @aaroncoroner5915
    @aaroncoroner59156 ай бұрын

    Panda that has seen some shit?!?......BWAHHH HAHAHAHA!!!! That's the funniest thing I've heard in a long time man! Thanks for that. Only thing I'd add is that for a lot of Black Metal it's a No Lead Guitar! club. Great video!👌

  • @RuthlessMetalYT

    @RuthlessMetalYT

    6 ай бұрын

    hehe, thanks man! Cheers!

  • @robertobuatti7226
    @robertobuatti72266 ай бұрын

    Though I listen to all types of metal between Black Metal and Death Metal I lean towards Death Metal more, it's more my style with it's horror themes and sound, it's like watching a horror movie but done musically, it usually has a better production than Black Metal, I do enjoy Black thrash metal but.

  • @RuthlessMetalYT

    @RuthlessMetalYT

    6 ай бұрын

    🤘🤘

  • @robertobuatti7226

    @robertobuatti7226

    6 ай бұрын

    @@RuthlessMetalYT Cheers. ❤🤘🎸

  • @shauno6799
    @shauno67996 ай бұрын

    I’m more into thrash,but mostly because for me personally, I am not into the sound of the vocals,and mostly the lyric content when you can understand them. But i like the tightness of death metal music, only find the drumming a bit tappy and repetitive.

  • @RuthlessMetalYT

    @RuthlessMetalYT

    6 ай бұрын

    same here. Cheers!

  • @zebulonrandall802
    @zebulonrandall8025 ай бұрын

    In the winter i like to listen to black metal i also like death metal

  • @johntarasovitch438
    @johntarasovitch4386 ай бұрын

    I basically like both genres and the bands that are with them but if I had to choose one i would definitely prefer Death Metal all the way Thanks RM cheers 🤘👍

  • @RuthlessMetalYT

    @RuthlessMetalYT

    6 ай бұрын

    Cheers! 🤘

  • @user-zx8de8op9l
    @user-zx8de8op9l4 ай бұрын

    You forgot Emperor the one Black meat band I bought on a recommendation from a co-worker. I am more familiar with early 90's Death metal.

  • @RuthlessMetalYT

    @RuthlessMetalYT

    4 ай бұрын

    there are tons of bands that werent in this video.

  • @johnercalisanga5300
    @johnercalisanga53005 ай бұрын

    Death Metal is all about Primitive, gnashing brutality and heavily distorted Down tuned guitars, Black Metal on the other hand is more Atmospheric often and Melodic on its techniques such as tremolo picking and Lo-fi to Raspy vocals.

  • @RuthlessMetalYT

    @RuthlessMetalYT

    5 ай бұрын

    cheers

  • @infernicide666
    @infernicide6666 ай бұрын

    Aren’t you going to do a best of 2023 video?

  • @RuthlessMetalYT

    @RuthlessMetalYT

    6 ай бұрын

    I did a short video, check it out.

  • @RuthlessMetalYT

    @RuthlessMetalYT

    6 ай бұрын

    I did: kzread.infoy-Y16p5U0XI

  • @animeviewer3829
    @animeviewer38295 ай бұрын

    Good job, and I will say there are death metal bands that did do music about anti Christian and satanic lyrics like Deicide

  • @RuthlessMetalYT

    @RuthlessMetalYT

    5 ай бұрын

    Cheers!

  • @animeviewer3829

    @animeviewer3829

    5 ай бұрын

    @@RuthlessMetalYT Morbid Angel also sings about that types of subject as Deicide, and they’re both Death Metal bands. I just wanted to say that for my knowledge to death Metal bands like Morbid Angel and Deicide

  • @arturoalmazan5262
    @arturoalmazan52626 ай бұрын

    i never got into the second wave of black metal. bands. like Dimmu Burgir ; gorgoroth ; etc. bathory Celtic frost; venom and Mercyful Fate were awesome. Death metal bands like Obituary; cannibal, morbid angel; Deicide ; entombed old school bands that clearly had influences from kreator; Sodom almost all of german thrash metal bands. anyway great video as always 👍🤘🤘

  • @RuthlessMetalYT

    @RuthlessMetalYT

    6 ай бұрын

    yeah, same here the second wave kinda lost me, Dissection are good though.

  • @xraygamer9895

    @xraygamer9895

    4 ай бұрын

    Celtic frost was definetily more important for the death metal bands too as opposed to the german thrash. Celtic frost is probably in the 5 most important metal bands of all time period😭

  • @RuthlessMetalYT

    @RuthlessMetalYT

    4 ай бұрын

    for sure@@xraygamer9895

  • @williamwalker146
    @williamwalker1466 ай бұрын

    Thanks for the comparison/contrast. I actually do not like either genre, but as a metalhead, I appreciated the concise summary.

  • @RuthlessMetalYT

    @RuthlessMetalYT

    6 ай бұрын

    Thanks, Cheers!

  • @blackwind677
    @blackwind6775 ай бұрын

    Points for seperating lofi production and atmosphere for bm

  • @RuthlessMetalYT

    @RuthlessMetalYT

    5 ай бұрын

    thanks boss. cheers

  • @CicoinTokyo777
    @CicoinTokyo7772 ай бұрын

    So which one is more brutal?

  • @RuthlessMetalYT

    @RuthlessMetalYT

    2 ай бұрын

    DM I would say

  • @chito2294
    @chito22946 ай бұрын

    would you say black metal more predominantly european, (at least in the beginning and in general, of course) and death metal more american?

  • @RuthlessMetalYT

    @RuthlessMetalYT

    6 ай бұрын

    yeah, I definitely agree with that. Especially early on. Death Metal was as popular or perhaps even more popular than black at least here in Sweden back in the day.

  • @jaytracks
    @jaytracks6 ай бұрын

    Black metal is my favorite for 40 years

  • @RuthlessMetalYT

    @RuthlessMetalYT

    6 ай бұрын

    Cheers!

  • @uhtredragnarsson8961
    @uhtredragnarsson89616 ай бұрын

    Everything what say for black metal is true,even some element from black metal can hear in death metal also..perfekt example is first album from Bathory..but in The Return can hear some few element for death metal in upcoming bands..Bathory give basic start for future black metal genre..Bathory fan forever..

  • @RuthlessMetalYT

    @RuthlessMetalYT

    6 ай бұрын

    Yes Bathory is more or less all you need. hehe Cheers!

  • @mikebogush6803
    @mikebogush68035 ай бұрын

    🤘🤘🤘

  • @RuthlessMetalYT

    @RuthlessMetalYT

    5 ай бұрын

    🤘🤘

  • @taymazkhan-nt8jw
    @taymazkhan-nt8jw4 ай бұрын

    Black metal is like a knife while death metal is like a hammer.

  • @RuthlessMetalYT

    @RuthlessMetalYT

    4 ай бұрын

    kinda. 🤘

  • @CicoinTokyo777
    @CicoinTokyo7772 ай бұрын

    For me is the voice too loudly.. without voice both genre are amazing

  • @RuthlessMetalYT

    @RuthlessMetalYT

    2 ай бұрын

    cheers

  • @SYLRMHA
    @SYLRMHA6 ай бұрын

    One is black and the other one is death

  • @RuthlessMetalYT

    @RuthlessMetalYT

    6 ай бұрын

    that's correct.

  • @satanicgrizzlypuss8737
    @satanicgrizzlypuss87376 ай бұрын

    Black metal on a mixture of dxm and dph. Death metal when working out

  • @RuthlessMetalYT

    @RuthlessMetalYT

    6 ай бұрын

    cheers

  • @pSynrg303
    @pSynrg3036 ай бұрын

    Origins? Surely Venom & Death respectively...

  • @RuthlessMetalYT

    @RuthlessMetalYT

    6 ай бұрын

    hellhammer, slayer, celtic frost, sodom, destruction, kreator, sepultura, etc, etc, etc. ;) and even priest and sabbath if you take it further back. hehe

  • @Hwral
    @Hwral6 ай бұрын

    Let’s not forget about band logos. In general bm logos are pretty illegible. Death metal logos usually are, and letters are made to look “brutal”. Rhythm wise, black metal often has kinda duggah-duggah-duggah polka rhythms. Old Darkthrone albums used those by default, and many bm bands followed Darkthrone in this style. Musically many bm bands have a very passive or barely audible bass. This is a big difference with death metal, where the bass is fairly important.

  • @RuthlessMetalYT

    @RuthlessMetalYT

    6 ай бұрын

    certainly!

  • @xraygamer9895

    @xraygamer9895

    4 ай бұрын

    Yeah this is actually a BIG diffrence sonically. Black metal is in the vast majority of cases built around melodic ideas, as opposed to death metal. It’s very common for songs to use not even a single sort of variation of rhythm in the same song, thing which is very uncommon in death metal. Both kind of started with just skank beats, d-beats, and blast beats, but while black metal kind of kept just using some variations of those, death metal went in much more interesting directions.

  • @KardboardKenny
    @KardboardKenny6 ай бұрын

    if SLAYER!!!!!!! had diff vocal styles, would they be considered Death or Black Metal?

  • @RuthlessMetalYT

    @RuthlessMetalYT

    6 ай бұрын

    maybe.

  • @primordialserpent1763

    @primordialserpent1763

    6 ай бұрын

    Musically Slayer are much closer to death metal than they are to black metal.

  • @paravan2000

    @paravan2000

    6 ай бұрын

    ​@@primordialserpent1763 Show No Mercy and Hell Awaits are 80s black metal, but Reign In Blood is 80s death metal

  • @euronymous2487

    @euronymous2487

    5 ай бұрын

    ​@@primordialserpent1763serpent please try listening at: DEATH METAL VS PINK FLOYD thanks

  • @xraygamer9895

    @xraygamer9895

    4 ай бұрын

    Maybe in the same way a lot of early death metal (i would say especially the 85/86-88) era was just using a lot of thrash riffs, then maybe.

  • @bjack1547
    @bjack15476 ай бұрын

    Bolt thrower is literally Warhammer 40k, therefore best!

  • @RuthlessMetalYT

    @RuthlessMetalYT

    6 ай бұрын

    hehge

  • @antondzajajurca7797
    @antondzajajurca77976 ай бұрын

    RM you've disappointed me there with DM lyrics :D .....it is in the name ....DM lyrics are lyrics about death :P + I would definitely add aggression and nihilism inthere

  • @RuthlessMetalYT

    @RuthlessMetalYT

    6 ай бұрын

    yeah, can't add everything into a video but this were broad strokes.

  • @diegoborges3716
    @diegoborges37166 ай бұрын

    Both styles can be satanic (ex. Watain and Deicide) and can also be even christian (ex. Antestor and Mortification).

  • @RuthlessMetalYT

    @RuthlessMetalYT

    6 ай бұрын

    yes sir, cheers.

  • @eon14873

    @eon14873

    5 ай бұрын

    Black metal bands can't be Christian. If it's Christian it's not black metal

  • @josephbobbitt7759
    @josephbobbitt77596 ай бұрын

    I know Possessed is a death metal band but their lyrics are more black metal.

  • @RuthlessMetalYT

    @RuthlessMetalYT

    6 ай бұрын

    yes sir

  • @g-man4744

    @g-man4744

    6 ай бұрын

    Possessed was definitely an influence on black metal!

  • @RuthlessMetalYT

    @RuthlessMetalYT

    6 ай бұрын

    yes sir@@g-man4744

  • @emperorvitiate1844
    @emperorvitiate18446 ай бұрын

    Bleck

  • @RuthlessMetalYT

    @RuthlessMetalYT

    6 ай бұрын

    Bleck Mettul

  • @southpakrules
    @southpakrules6 ай бұрын

    108

  • @RuthlessMetalYT

    @RuthlessMetalYT

    6 ай бұрын

    442

  • @malakasquad2214

    @malakasquad2214

    6 ай бұрын

    Well, these are not random numbers ...

  • @jeffprovo7604
    @jeffprovo76046 ай бұрын

    Maybe I'm weird... but I feel like Death, despite the name, actually fall closer to the Black Metal side when it comes to how they actually sound.

  • @RuthlessMetalYT

    @RuthlessMetalYT

    6 ай бұрын

    Cheers!

  • @tobiasbirkehede9104
    @tobiasbirkehede91046 ай бұрын

    In my opinion Dissection is death metal.

  • @RuthlessMetalYT

    @RuthlessMetalYT

    6 ай бұрын

    yeah it's a bit of both I guess.

  • @Hecatecrossways
    @Hecatecrossways6 ай бұрын

    US Power Metal and Euro Power Metal. The difference between Classic Hard Rock and Proto Metal

  • @RuthlessMetalYT

    @RuthlessMetalYT

    6 ай бұрын

    the first one would make sence. I don't consider proto metal being a genre just a collection of songs that were before their time. :)

  • @Hecatecrossways

    @Hecatecrossways

    5 ай бұрын

    @@RuthlessMetalYT I call it 1970s Metal. I just thought that it might be interesting to separate the early Hard Rock from the early Metal. Or even just a video about what separates Hard Rock from Heavy Metal. It's a subject that no one delves into much. It seems that you are one of the few people who could answer the question with some validity

  • @grind4christ777
    @grind4christ7776 ай бұрын

    I thought black metal fans only ate land o lakes Black Forest Ham 😂. And death heads only buy fresh produce from whole foods lol.

  • @RuthlessMetalYT

    @RuthlessMetalYT

    6 ай бұрын

    haha, that's true. Cheers!

  • @xappleysk8x
    @xappleysk8x3 ай бұрын

    Black metal all the wayyyy

  • @RuthlessMetalYT

    @RuthlessMetalYT

    3 ай бұрын

    cheers

  • @WinterInTheForest
    @WinterInTheForest5 ай бұрын

    I much prefer death metal

  • @independenceltd.
    @independenceltd.6 ай бұрын

    scary makeup?

  • @RuthlessMetalYT

    @RuthlessMetalYT

    6 ай бұрын

    yes!

  • @Scott-ru6tw
    @Scott-ru6tw6 ай бұрын

    Seems to me that DM is a little more punk and rock n roll whereas BM leans more towards classical music. Great content as always. How about the difference between DM and grind core?

  • @RuthlessMetalYT

    @RuthlessMetalYT

    6 ай бұрын

    I don't care much for grindcore so I doubt that will happen. hehe Cheers!

  • @Scott-ru6tw

    @Scott-ru6tw

    6 ай бұрын

    @@RuthlessMetalYT very true.

  • @RuthlessMetalYT

    @RuthlessMetalYT

    6 ай бұрын

    cheers@@Scott-ru6tw

  • @Spiderlix
    @Spiderlix6 ай бұрын

    My favorite is death metal bands talking about satanism,like Deicide and Possessed.I like Black metal too,but i Always search about the band if it's or not a NSBM stuff to avoid.But my favorites are Bathory,Venom (Both 1st wave),Mayhem's Dead,Immortal and Enslaved.

  • @RuthlessMetalYT

    @RuthlessMetalYT

    5 ай бұрын

    Cheers!

  • @r.p.mcmurphy8917
    @r.p.mcmurphy8917Ай бұрын

    Davie504s burner youtube account

  • @RuthlessMetalYT

    @RuthlessMetalYT

    Ай бұрын

    Not even close. Im a Swede and he is from eastern europe or whatever

  • @michaelbro
    @michaelbro4 ай бұрын

    Thanks bro i love black metals but im Christian hard to choose

  • @RuthlessMetalYT

    @RuthlessMetalYT

    4 ай бұрын

    dilemma! ;) 🤘

  • @superstan3290
    @superstan32905 ай бұрын

    I'm more of a death metal fan than black metal, although I do like when bands combine these genres with thrash metal

  • @RuthlessMetalYT

    @RuthlessMetalYT

    5 ай бұрын

    Cheers!

  • @pechurick2834
    @pechurick28346 ай бұрын

    Quorthon invented black metal, Chuck Schuldiner invented death metal

  • @satanamogila9251

    @satanamogila9251

    6 ай бұрын

    Slayer and Venom invented both

  • @RuthlessMetalYT

    @RuthlessMetalYT

    6 ай бұрын

    but nobody creates a wave on their own. ;)

  • @RuthlessMetalYT

    @RuthlessMetalYT

    6 ай бұрын

    inspired yes@@satanamogila9251

  • @tjsststsjsjyksjgksjysjs7633
    @tjsststsjsjyksjgksjysjs7633Ай бұрын

    I don't know whether there's any difference between these two genres or not but I certainly do know what they have in common - they both are completely unlistenable garbage.

  • @RuthlessMetalYT

    @RuthlessMetalYT

    Ай бұрын

    Clean your ears.

  • @janioquadros3484
    @janioquadros34846 ай бұрын

    Personally, i prefer death metal.

  • @RuthlessMetalYT

    @RuthlessMetalYT

    6 ай бұрын

    cheers

  • @davesdream
    @davesdream6 ай бұрын

    Great video, as always. Death and Black Metal are the 2 genders of Metal that I really DON'T like.

  • @RuthlessMetalYT

    @RuthlessMetalYT

    6 ай бұрын

    come on, bathory? ;) Cheers!

  • @concernedliberal4453
    @concernedliberal44535 ай бұрын

    Black Metal: satan, satan, boogli, boogli, boogli, boogli Death Metal: actual music

  • @RuthlessMetalYT

    @RuthlessMetalYT

    5 ай бұрын

    Cheers!

  • @EncoreASMR
    @EncoreASMR4 ай бұрын

    BM is so depressing to listening to

  • @RuthlessMetalYT

    @RuthlessMetalYT

    4 ай бұрын

    Not as depressing as ASMR though. ;)

  • @franciskocher200
    @franciskocher2006 ай бұрын

    For me no difference because i don't like and listen black or death metal😂

  • @RuthlessMetalYT

    @RuthlessMetalYT

    6 ай бұрын

    give Bathory a chance. ;) Cheers!

  • @franciskocher200

    @franciskocher200

    6 ай бұрын

    @@RuthlessMetalYT 😃👍

  • @h.a.r.m.4983
    @h.a.r.m.49836 ай бұрын

    Even if there are some super groups, 90% of black metal is a joke. Btw an average DM group is mostly decent for any average metalhead.

  • @RuthlessMetalYT

    @RuthlessMetalYT

    6 ай бұрын

    yeah, if you have a genre that don't pride itself with sounding good, a lot of shitty bands that can't play will aim for that. :D

  • @xraygamer9895

    @xraygamer9895

    4 ай бұрын

    Most black metal is kind of thrash because the skill floor is so low. Despite that, black metal actually has artistic masterpieces as opposed to death metal.

  • @mikerauter1859
    @mikerauter18596 ай бұрын

    I say this respectfully - not to be an asshole - but you've missed the point completely. Black metal is an ideology - Satanism put with metal music. Both Mercyful Fate and Blasphemy are black metal - their style of metal (classic, power, thrash, grindcore etc) does not matter.

  • @RuthlessMetalYT

    @RuthlessMetalYT

    6 ай бұрын

    I said that death metal is less serious and more distant. BM bands takes them selves way too serious. hehe. I don't fully agree with that, let's say a deep purple sounding band starting to add evil themes, that don't make them a black metal band. Kinda like the band Lucifer.

  • @gibsonlespaul796
    @gibsonlespaul7966 ай бұрын

    You missed 1 key point. Death metal is pretty cool...Black metal sucks 😄

  • @RuthlessMetalYT

    @RuthlessMetalYT

    6 ай бұрын

    Bathory is better than all Death Metal bands though. ;)

  • @SYLRMHA

    @SYLRMHA

    6 ай бұрын

    Bathory made 2 good albums...end of story

  • @darkmanj666

    @darkmanj666

    6 ай бұрын

    @@RuthlessMetalYTCarcass kicks their arse

  • @RuthlessMetalYT

    @RuthlessMetalYT

    6 ай бұрын

    nah. :) @@darkmanj666

  • @RuthlessMetalYT

    @RuthlessMetalYT

    6 ай бұрын

    or ten. ;)@@SYLRMHA

  • @Heavymetalforever66
    @Heavymetalforever666 ай бұрын

    Cradle of Filth,Mercyful Fate are Black Metal and Sepultura, Napalm Death are Death Metal!! All basically S***e👎👎👎

  • @CainnechEliasson

    @CainnechEliasson

    6 ай бұрын

    the triggered lil girl wanting attention. don't feel bad, though Bon Jovi's still around.

  • @Heavymetalforever66

    @Heavymetalforever66

    6 ай бұрын

    @@CainnechEliasson I'm no little girl a**hole I'm 58 year's old!!! Been into Metal from 10 year's old, been to 100s of concerts, Bon Jovi included!!!! Metal Church, Sabaton, Riot, Helloween, Judas Priest, Rainbow, Dio, Accept, Dokken, Uriah Heep, Wasp, Motorhead, Powerwolf, Stratovarius, Thin Lizzy, Gary Moore, Def Leppard to name a few!!!! You know decent music with singers that sing and don't growl, and musicians that can actually play their instruments 🤘🤘🎸🎸🤨🤨🤨 Don't patronise me!!😡

  • @RuthlessMetalYT

    @RuthlessMetalYT

    6 ай бұрын

    You don't even know what black metal is, Mercyful Fate ain't black metal. It's heavy metal.

  • @Heavymetalforever66

    @Heavymetalforever66

    6 ай бұрын

    @@RuthlessMetalYT No you DON'T know what Black Metal is🤪 Venom, Mercyful Fate and Bathory were the first Black Metal Bands back in the 80s!!!! I'm 58 year's old into Metal nearly 50 years!!!! But then your probably about 12🤨🤨🤣🤣🤣 Go look it up if you don't believe me, quite honestly I don't care what you believe or think!!! 🤘🤘

  • @superdudeman666
    @superdudeman6666 ай бұрын

    The main difference is that all black metal sucks and death metal sometimes does not. You forgot to mention that.

  • @RuthlessMetalYT

    @RuthlessMetalYT

    6 ай бұрын

    come on Bathory rules!

  • @Scott-ru6tw
    @Scott-ru6tw6 ай бұрын

    A panda that's see some shit. Laughing beer out my nose!

  • @RuthlessMetalYT

    @RuthlessMetalYT

    6 ай бұрын

    hehe. :)

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