Black hole Firewalls - with Sean Carroll and Jennifer Ouellette

What would you experience if you jumped into a black hole?
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Conventionally, physicists have assumed that if the black hole is large enough, the gravitational forces won't become extreme until you approach the singularity. There, the gravitational pull will be so much stronger on your feet than your head, that you will be 'spaghettified'. Now, a new theory proposes that instead of spaghettification, you will encounter a massive wall of fire that will incinerate you on the spot, before you get close to turning into vermicelli.
In this special Ri event, science writer Jennifer Ouellette and physicist Sean Carroll explore the black hole firewall paradox, the exotic physics that underlies the new theory and what the paradox tells us about how new scientific theories are proposed, tested and accepted.
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  • @JoyoSnooze
    @JoyoSnooze Жыл бұрын

    I could listen to Sean Carroll all day, every day. He seems to perfectly blend the mind-boggling complexity of his subject matter, with an ease and flow of delivery that makes it come across as comprehensively understandable at an engaging and relatable level.

  • @NalitaQubit
    @NalitaQubit Жыл бұрын

    “Sorry Dave” cracked me up! Brains and humor… thank you for a mind stimulating experience!

  • @tusharmishra2515
    @tusharmishra25156 жыл бұрын

    This means so much to me.. I am a student from India with just no resources at all.. This empowers me.. Thank you everyone who is involved in this channel and video

  • @snoppdeng2

    @snoppdeng2

    5 жыл бұрын

    Think of it as an apology from the Royals of England to your and any other country who had to endure their reign earlier in history. Also, you have the internet, the most powerful tool in history for learning, if you want it to be. Good to see that you have an interest in the basic fundamentals of everything, it's an extremely good character trait in my eyes. Schooling does count for something, but the basic human trait of curiosity is so much more important.

  • @kusukuttan

    @kusukuttan

    5 жыл бұрын

    I am from India, but I have the resources! How is it that you don't? All we need in today's world is a laptop with internet connection and am sure u have that.

  • @Norpan506

    @Norpan506

    5 жыл бұрын

    You got smart people in India. The most important resource :)

  • @josedanielbazanmanzano9607

    @josedanielbazanmanzano9607

    5 жыл бұрын

    They have been doing these talks since Faraday times isn't it?

  • @jcbbb

    @jcbbb

    5 жыл бұрын

    You speak english and have the internet... The world is yours

  • @ryhk3293
    @ryhk32932 жыл бұрын

    I traveled for nearly a week from an MSF mission in the Congo to attend these two's wedding in LA in the 2007 (ish?). Unique, beautiful ceremony. Took another nearly a week to travel back.

  • @RayWalker-pythonic
    @RayWalker-pythonic3 жыл бұрын

    I could watch Sean Carroll lectures all day. In fact, I think I will.

  • @SatanDynastyKiller

    @SatanDynastyKiller

    2 жыл бұрын

    Same 👋

  • @sianrevs

    @sianrevs

    6 ай бұрын

    Same. I have the need to watch Sean Carroll lectures while doing something slightly less complicated than quantum mechanics, namely lace knitting. 🤣 Weirdly, it keeps me on task!?

  • @ferkinskin
    @ferkinskin6 жыл бұрын

    I'm very often, if not always, impressed with the RI audiences (especially the "kids") and their level of curiosity and general knowledge.

  • @kgsz
    @kgsz2 жыл бұрын

    This is amazing lecture! I stumbled upon this channel by accident but the skill, clarity and fervour of Mrs Ouellette had me anchor here and bask in the faint. warm glow of all the rest of the videos on the channel. Thank you! Subscribed with a rare and true joy.

  • @CAPUTO000
    @CAPUTO0004 жыл бұрын

    not sure that i've ever heard this topic presented as clearly, articulately and enjoyably as it was by ouellette in the above vid, just outstanding.

  • @alwaysdisputin9930

    @alwaysdisputin9930

    2 жыл бұрын

    WTF at times it was a utterly incomprehensible USELESS explanation & nobody knew WTF he was talking about eg: 47:47 _"In a black hole, the 2-dimensional event horizon really does contain all the information you need, to talk about what's happening inside, according to the holographic principle. But it should be true even in this room, or the galaxy or the universe. & if that is true, locality is being dramatically violated, because there is a lot less that can possibly happen in this room than you thought could. You thought that something could be happening here & something could be happening there & different things could be happening at every point. But the holographic principle says: No, that's not true. 1 of the arguments for it, is if you imagine all of the different possible things that could happen most of them would have a lot of energy & would collapse to make a black hole. So there is an upper limit on the number of things that could happen in this room, & the size of the upper limit is proportional to the area of the walls around this room. So there is this hypothesis that all of physics really lives in a world that is 1 dimension lower than the world we actually see. & again, we are trying to make sense of this idea. We are making progress, but we are not completely there yet."_ _"The other idea that has come out of Black holes and argues against locality is called Black hole complementarity. Remember I said that, from the point of view of Bob from far away, he sees radiation coming out of the Black hole, and he says: well if I trace it backwards, it must have been very high energy radiation when it left the event horizon. Whereas Alice, in the conventional way of thinking about things, passes through the event horizon & sees nothing there, just empty space. So they had incompatible ways of describing the same situation. Bob thinks the event horizon is bubbling with high-energy radiation; Alice says there's nothing there. Black hole complementarity says: they are both correct. Black hole complementarity says they are different-sounding ways of giving equivalent descriptions of the same fundamental underlying reality, & that 2 things that are seen by 2 observers can look very very different, as long as the observers can never get together to compare notes. So what happens is, if you give Bob enough time to collect the Hawking radiation, & figure out what he thinks the horizon looks like, & you give Alice enough time to fall into the horizon. If Bob then says: alright, I've got some data; I know what's coming out of the Black hole. I am going to fly into the Black hole & tell Alice what I saw. It is too late. She has been spaghettified & crushed into the singularity. So these 2 observers see a very different thing happening in the world, but hey can never talk about it. Only we - God-like physicists, looking at the whole thing from afar, can give the bird's eye view on everything that is going on. That is the principle of Black hole complementarity. It's borrowed from the early days of quantum mechanics when Niels Bohr pointed out that you are allowed to measure position, OR you are allowed to measure velocity. You are not allowed to measure both at the same time. That was quantum complementarity; this is Black hole complementarity. So again, it's a violation of locality in some sense. It says that the right way to describe the world isn't what's happening here, & what's happening there, & what's happening there, and what's happening there, separately. What's happening right there can depend in a very dramatic way on who's looking at it & from what perspective. So somehow, all the information about what's going on in the world is not simply located in individual points in space. It's encoded in some cryptic way that we don't yet understand, & that's what we are trying to get at, by doing these thought experiments. The problem is, these 2 types of non-locality, don't seem to be enough to solve the firewall puzzle."_

  • @deeliciousplum
    @deeliciousplum8 жыл бұрын

    Exceptional talk! Thank you to Ri for sharing this. A huge thank you to Jennifer Ouellette and Sean Carroll for sharing their thoughts and research with us.

  • @robertburchett4945

    @robertburchett4945

    2 жыл бұрын

    0000000

  • @geoden
    @geoden3 жыл бұрын

    I well remember this joint lecture taking place in London, Sean and his wife were excellent and engrossing.

  • @caspiancaspian1154

    @caspiancaspian1154

    2 жыл бұрын

    instaBlaster.

  • @hestonpfheffer1299

    @hestonpfheffer1299

    2 жыл бұрын

    Wife?

  • @hamzakhanrajput7881
    @hamzakhanrajput78813 жыл бұрын

    It happened first time in my Life that I watched a KZread video of one and a half an hour without skipping even a single second. Sean is a great explainer.

  • @spidalack
    @spidalack10 жыл бұрын

    First, I would like to say that having these kinds of lectures available on the internet is something that fills me with such a sense of pride in the human race that is refreshing. Thank you so much for this gift. Second, I would like to point out a small correction. In the talk, Sean Carrol states the unfortunate link between the term "firewall" in this context and in computer science. Well, actually, the analogy is EXACTLY what happens in a computer firewall, except with a twist. The way a firewall works is it's a "membrane" any information wanting to pass from one network to another as to go through. The default behavior is that any information is stopped. How is information stopped? It is "destroyed". This is the membrane acting "as nature intended". Destroying information is something we do all the time in computer science. How do we do it? We make heat. That's one of the reasons why your computer gets warm. The twist is the trick to computer science. We get to cheat and decide what information is allowed to pass, basically by deciding to look at it instead of dissipating it. That's what makes it a very useful thing to protect "my precious universe" from the big bad things on the other side of the firewall.

  • @jojolafrite90

    @jojolafrite90

    5 жыл бұрын

    So what? You think hell is on the other side? You "worry" me a bit... You are not religious, are you?

  • @palanthis

    @palanthis

    5 жыл бұрын

    Not to be pedantic, but... Actually the packets that DO get through generate more heat than the rejected packets. All packets are equal before inspection. Dropped packets simply cease to be, but allowed packets have to be reassembled and forwarded to their destination, which requires more energy to transmit on down the line as either electricity or light.

  • @MrDarchangelomni

    @MrDarchangelomni

    5 жыл бұрын

    LOL i just explained that firewalls have been around for some time (before computers)... if i remember right the first recorded instance was after londons great fire... adjacent buildings had to share at least one wall of stone, brick, or other masonry.

  • @wetryrollin

    @wetryrollin

    2 жыл бұрын

    Onl no mm on

  • @yongmrchen

    @yongmrchen

    Жыл бұрын

    Information as stated in physics should be more fundamental than the term used in computer science. I guess.

  • @CaptianKeyz
    @CaptianKeyz8 жыл бұрын

    I could listen to you all day, Sean. Thank you for all your talks. I get them off youtube. I watch many academic lectures in physics to better grasp these concepts of the nature of black holes & the reality of space-time. I only have a BA in music, but I do understand acoustic physics. So, I do have some foundation; just not a very strong one. I can't help but be excited about this stuff. It's what I do for entertainment, instead of TV & that nonsense. Thank you for your contribution to humanity, Mr Carroll

  • @Daitaigenjitsu

    @Daitaigenjitsu

    8 жыл бұрын

    +CaptianKeyz Imagine where we could be as a species, if more people thought of this as entertainment instead of the absolute dreck populating TV, cinema, and radio, encouraging our children to follow in the footsteps of the great thinkers.

  • @kweichunchoy971

    @kweichunchoy971

    7 жыл бұрын

    CaptianK

  • @monicahale887

    @monicahale887

    7 жыл бұрын

    CaptianKeyz Godnrules

  • @climbeverest

    @climbeverest

    6 жыл бұрын

    Yes!!!

  • @mickbeard3692

    @mickbeard3692

    6 жыл бұрын

    dont 4 get to think 4 yorself,and reverse everything.

  • @mgenthbjpafa6413
    @mgenthbjpafa64134 жыл бұрын

    Congrats to the couple.Learned so much with Prof. Sean Carrol from 2007 to 2019. Excellent Podcast and lectures.

  • @aliciaphillips8796
    @aliciaphillips87964 жыл бұрын

    Thank you very much I've watched this many times and will watch it many more times in the future.

  • @charleshartlen3914
    @charleshartlen39146 жыл бұрын

    Sean is likely my favorite of his peers in terms of public communication; I enjoy his zeal and humor. Thanks for your time and thanks for uploading this!

  • @percestyler

    @percestyler

    4 жыл бұрын

    He;s an idiot who doesn't even believe in the scientific method. You like him 'cause he's an atheist.

  • @seeatle11

    @seeatle11

    4 жыл бұрын

    Sean’s enthusiasm and eloquence are to be admired. The trap he sets is you may believe everything he says.

  • @ryanlyle9201

    @ryanlyle9201

    4 жыл бұрын

    Nikola Perkovic bringing up religion when nobody was talking about it. You seem like a rational person, give us your method to scientific research.

  • @alexlarsen6413

    @alexlarsen6413

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@percestyler Sean Carroll doesn't believe in the scientific method?? That nonsense you wrote plus the typical name calling reveals it is in fact you who doesn't like him just because he's an atheist. Everything he's said here is valid regardless of the existence of God.

  • @onbored9627

    @onbored9627

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@iannamandwa7017 we are all american at heart.

  • @mierpaul
    @mierpaul4 жыл бұрын

    i just watched all the sean carroll videos so I'm ready for my PhD in theoretical quantum physics.

  • @garymingy8671

    @garymingy8671

    3 жыл бұрын

    He's on shrooms , just making stuff up - he fakes norble reel Goode...

  • @geoden

    @geoden

    3 жыл бұрын

    Good luck with your Doctorate then!

  • @geoden

    @geoden

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@garymingy8671 Well, you are certainly ''minging'' Gary!

  • @mierpaul

    @mierpaul

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@geoden Hopefully I will spell his name correctly next time.

  • @mikeghoshal6613

    @mikeghoshal6613

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@garymingy8671 Quite right, not interesting

  • @johnemory7485
    @johnemory74857 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for sharing! This has been one of the clearer presentations of motivation for black hole firewalls and the holographic principle.

  • @seanleith5312

    @seanleith5312

    2 жыл бұрын

    Drop the icrap please, it is disgusting.

  • @JulianMakes
    @JulianMakesАй бұрын

    Wonderful talk! The way Sean can convey such complex ideas in a nutshell with such clarity to the layman without missing a beat is an incredible skill. I think Feynman could do this too. Thank you for making these videos.

  • @luisakehau1398
    @luisakehau13987 жыл бұрын

    Sean Carroll is a nice talker :D I really enjoyed this talk ... Thank you for making available

  • @diyandimitrov3724
    @diyandimitrov37247 жыл бұрын

    Brilliant as always, Sean Carrol! Thank you, Ri, for publishing!

  • @MarcoMeerman
    @MarcoMeerman7 жыл бұрын

    When listening to Sean's lectures, I deel like I listen to the world's best teacher. And you are a great couple.

  • @ew3469
    @ew34697 жыл бұрын

    great talk .. cant get enough of these.. espeially sean .. he gets his point across very well

  • @BryanOSheaComedy
    @BryanOSheaComedy9 жыл бұрын

    Sean and Jennifer are my two new favorite people. Bravo.

  • @SmegInThePants
    @SmegInThePants Жыл бұрын

    Nice talk but I also really enjoyed the question and answer period, could have enjoyed an entire vid of just that, he's good at answering questions cold off the cuff, and people in the audience are good at trying to narrow down ambiguities in language from the main talk to pierce the veil of the analogies a little bit while simultaneously sean immediately understands what they are getting at and resolves the ambiguity to clarify what is really being said.

  • @expatexpat6531

    @expatexpat6531

    Жыл бұрын

    He's good at collapsing the interrogative wave function.

  • @BeCurieUs
    @BeCurieUs10 жыл бұрын

    Came to understand more about black holes, only to now understand we know seemingly less about black holes than we assumed in the past...I LOVE SCIENCE :D

  • @amaliacarusone3885
    @amaliacarusone38855 жыл бұрын

    Amazing talk! Thanks, Sean Carroll!

  • @TheRealWinsletFan
    @TheRealWinsletFan10 жыл бұрын

    Fascinating lecture. Thanks for sharing!

  • @Niosus
    @Niosus10 жыл бұрын

    Oh man seeing that thumbnail in my feed made me happy! I love listening to Sean Carroll! Thanks a lot RI!

  • @jth23271
    @jth232718 жыл бұрын

    I have watched this, maybe, 27 times, and I still find something subtle I didn't catch before! I would love to have dinner conversation with these two!

  • @kostadinkondev829

    @kostadinkondev829

    4 жыл бұрын

    Or shout them whit tomatoes

  • @SG-SilverGaming

    @SG-SilverGaming

    3 жыл бұрын

    You would never understand even after watching BILLION times Fool Cockroach 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂😂😆😆😆

  • @ninizeldav7174

    @ninizeldav7174

    2 жыл бұрын

    My meal would reach absolute Zero before I even start eating!

  • @raphaellavictoria01
    @raphaellavictoria014 жыл бұрын

    i really love this lecture. wow, im listening to it again, just bc i like it.

  • @ryanbaker7404
    @ryanbaker7404 Жыл бұрын

    I've read Jennifer's articles on Ars Technica for years, but this is the first time I've seen her on video. Crazy. Wonderful presentation, btw, and love her works on Ars.

  • @shaileshrana7165
    @shaileshrana71653 жыл бұрын

    I'm so happy that this has a million views.

  • @Ucbmiller
    @Ucbmiller2 жыл бұрын

    My biggest dream at the age of 33 and just beginning to start my physics education is to contribute beyond the giants shoulders I've stood on for a year now. I have ADHD and the only thing I can keep focus on is absolutely everything to do with physics, mathematics, general relativity, quantum mechanics, and etc. It is a privilege to be able to learn so much for free these days. Godspeed.

  • @WebesJamm

    @WebesJamm

    2 жыл бұрын

    Not to be rude but ADHD is lame

  • @ermagherd1204

    @ermagherd1204

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@WebesJamm ha what?! Most random & weird comment ever wtf…

  • @Hakor0

    @Hakor0

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ermagherd1204 he's referring to it not being real because it's generally bad diet related etc than being a specific disease I think

  • @Ewr42

    @Ewr42

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Hakor0 I'd love to hear your information on it, the diet/brain correlation is interesting af but I never heard anything about ADHD being related

  • @arifbaftiu2110

    @arifbaftiu2110

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@Hakor0xx

  • @hamzakhanrajput7881
    @hamzakhanrajput78813 жыл бұрын

    Sean is a really great explainer.

  • @adamh6094
    @adamh60945 жыл бұрын

    The guy asking the question at about 1:17:00 ish, I like to think about it like this: Get a piece of elastic, and mark it close to the left end. Grab the elastic by either end and stretch it. The rate at which the mark moves away from your left hand is remarkably less that the rate at which your right hand is moving away from your left hand. Nevertheless, the elastic is stretching uniformly.

  • @UltimateHandler
    @UltimateHandler8 жыл бұрын

    Sean: "You've come very close to inventing what is called the Many Worlds Interpretation of Quantum Mechanics.." Audience Member: "Oh, thank you very much. I have to text my mum, she'll be very proud!" LOL.

  • @azynkron

    @azynkron

    5 жыл бұрын

    That joke was so British. I can't think of anywhere else where someone would come back like that.

  • @phaedrusbjb

    @phaedrusbjb

    4 жыл бұрын

    reply: "its alright son, its not any more testable now than it was 100 years ago for its originator"

  • @christopherdomalewski773

    @christopherdomalewski773

    4 жыл бұрын

    BadTrip l look

  • @qravenp
    @qravenp4 жыл бұрын

    Am I the only one that feels like I can remix music under her speach? This is a conpliment, it's almost rap without the background music. Plus what she's actualy saying.... Art man.

  • @name8329

    @name8329

    3 жыл бұрын

    Sounding like an old-school dubstep intro

  • @nicholashylton6857
    @nicholashylton68576 жыл бұрын

    Wow. Those two make a really nice dynamic duo!

  • @macbuff81
    @macbuff814 жыл бұрын

    Cool couple :) I love their passionate, fun and intuitive presentation style

  • @tactileslut
    @tactileslut4 жыл бұрын

    Kudos to the editor for keeping hte audience questions audible regardless of whether the speaker had a microphone.

  • @auto_ego
    @auto_ego5 жыл бұрын

    I watch RI videos during lunch. _So_ glad I picked spaghetti for this one!

  • @danielhenderson7050
    @danielhenderson70504 жыл бұрын

    Can't get enough of these videos

  • @TechNed
    @TechNed6 жыл бұрын

    This one left me wondering but I guess, that's the point! Thanks again.

  • @xDMrGarrison
    @xDMrGarrison8 жыл бұрын

    The first time I conceptually understood Hawking Radiation and my mind is blown! The black hole rips virtual particles apart and it creates 2 real particles, 1 goes inside the black hole and the other goes outside, the one outside has positive energy and the one inside has negative energy, which is why it loses mass. And I just took for granted that the black hole would lose energy.... I thought it would just get tired, not realizing that it if it's truly black it wouldn't lose energy.

  • @alexlarsen6413

    @alexlarsen6413

    4 жыл бұрын

    It's charge that's positive and negative, but otherwise yes. The black hole loses its energy because Bob escapes.

  • @TalladegaTom
    @TalladegaTom10 жыл бұрын

    I will spend the rest of the day picking up and reassembling the pieces of my blown mind. Thank you!

  • @daveb5041

    @daveb5041

    6 жыл бұрын

    I don't think the average person can understand the higgs mechanism. At university they don't even bother teaching it to undergrad students. I never understood any of this stuff until I started writting out the math and playing around with the numbers: Put in 0 or 1 and see what answers you get. It took e yaers to figure out how a massless particle can push" a massive particle but it can due to compton scattering. Once you do the math it makes sense.

  • @azynkron

    @azynkron

    5 жыл бұрын

    It's true that some people are very logical without having a particular interest in mathematics. However, if you are interested in mathematics, e.i. are good at it, you very likely are logical. But, yes, Philosophers are very logical and great thinkers but aren't necessarily good mathematicians.

  • @jojolafrite90

    @jojolafrite90

    5 жыл бұрын

    I am such a person. Good for me! XD

  • @stefanhensel8611

    @stefanhensel8611

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@daveb5041 There are different levels of understanding. I can follow most public lectures about GR, black holes and quantum physics without a lot of difficulties, but there's no way I could do the math, and I'm well aware that public lectures are a very downsized version of what a physics student would have to learn. So it's like being around a black hole: From the perspective of an average citizen, I'm quite savvy in astrophysics and quantum theory, but from the perspective of a physics professor, I'm not even a noob. And, as we have learnt, both are right ;)

  • @garymingy8671

    @garymingy8671

    3 жыл бұрын

    Let go , saniety ain't all it's cracked up to be or snot to bee swelling to extreame deminsions impossible to alloy smelt nor brazed , amen ,adue

  • @Dr10Jeeps
    @Dr10Jeeps5 жыл бұрын

    Wonderful lecture by both Sean and Jennifer. I've been a professor of psychology for 43 years and during the last 6 years I have become fascinated with quantum mechanics and cosmology. I would like a do over in life as a theoretical physicist. Unfortunately, that can't happen.

  • @stupidas9466

    @stupidas9466

    2 жыл бұрын

    Perhaps all was not lost, as in another universe you did become a theoretical physicist! Although i bet in that universe you wish you had become a professor of psychology.

  • @DocSeville

    @DocSeville

    Жыл бұрын

    I'm 63 with a high school education who got D's in any math class I managed not to flunk and I intend to spend the rest of my days trying to understand this stuff! Enjoy physics on your free time!

  • @meranger92
    @meranger924 жыл бұрын

    I really thought this video would be about some type of pi-hole like firewall. Came for the title, stayed for the topic. Great presentation.

  • @TheOneMaddin
    @TheOneMaddin3 жыл бұрын

    So, the first audience question is exactly what I wondered since ever, and I have the feeling Sam's answer is not addressing the problem. He says that Bob cannot see Alice anymore at some point and therefore Bob cannot exclude that Alice has not passed the horizon. But, we do not need visual evidence to know this. The equations of GR tell us that time dilation becomes infinite from the perspective of an outside observer, and so we can conclude that Alice never passes the horizon (from Bob's point of view). In fact, Bob can conclude (by calculation) that the BH must evaporate before Alice falls through the horizon. And this is the point that he does not address. He always shift to "but Alice sees ..." and "Alice' point of view is relevant". But this is completely irrelevant to the question. The question is what an outside observer must conclude about the fate of Alice.

  • @aerialexplorer772

    @aerialexplorer772

    2 жыл бұрын

    I'm no expert, but maybe the answer has to do with the uncertainty surrounding quantum mechanics. That the amount of time it takes for the black hole to evaporate can be calculated, but this is only an average, and it could be much quicker or much slower depending on the roll of the dice. Crucially that there is an infinitesimal probability that it will take an infinite amount of time to evaporate. Therefore you can never say categorically that the black hole has evaporated before Alice has fallen in. Secondly that the photons reflected from Alice as she falls in will rapidly become very dim and infrequent - and perhaps these become merged with those emitted by the hawking radiation? Maybe if you shine more light on Alice as she falls in, this will allow you to see her better, but this also adds mass to the black hole, delaying the time of occurrence of evaporation.

  • @ryanlyle9201
    @ryanlyle92014 жыл бұрын

    This is called the “no drama” principal, but Bob is just asking for it, trying to entangle with Carrie, when he knows Alice is waiting at the end of time for him.

  • @Tom-fh3zg

    @Tom-fh3zg

    4 жыл бұрын

    .....that Carrie.........

  • @helphelpimbeingrepressed9347

    @helphelpimbeingrepressed9347

    3 жыл бұрын

    RIP Dave...

  • @NalitaQubit
    @NalitaQubit Жыл бұрын

    Stunning duo work; they complement each other and their love for cats is adorable.

  • @trapkat8213
    @trapkat8213 Жыл бұрын

    Sean Carroll is a great communicator. So articulate.

  • @shirleymason7697
    @shirleymason76977 жыл бұрын

    Must say again, how lucky we are to have Professor Carroll talk. Gifted, certainly. Additionally, my cat's name is Schroedinger; she's very much alive, and wants you to know that, other than for recreation, has never been in a box, and if she chooses to nap in one, please do not bother her to check her "state."

  • @jojolafrite90

    @jojolafrite90

    5 жыл бұрын

    He's just good at vulgarization.

  • @jeanetteyork2582
    @jeanetteyork25826 жыл бұрын

    She's brilliant...great lecture. Thank you. Always say thank you for such people.

  • @eriktempelman2097
    @eriktempelman20972 жыл бұрын

    Great talk by a great duo. RI thanks! Incidentally, the cat observes, too.

  • @tresajessygeorge210
    @tresajessygeorge210 Жыл бұрын

    THANK YOU BOTH...!!!

  • @gamesbok
    @gamesbok8 жыл бұрын

    You can avoid spaghettification falling into a black hole by rotating at high speed. So remember, if you feel yourself going, tuck and roll, tuck and roll.

  • @ghostfacechilla1027

    @ghostfacechilla1027

    8 жыл бұрын

    +kash krupa just enjoy the humor

  • @gamesbok

    @gamesbok

    7 жыл бұрын

    I'll just measure the size of this black hole as I'm falling into it.....What? If you're going to die anyway, there is no down side. Tuck and roll, tuck and roll.

  • @rljpdx

    @rljpdx

    7 жыл бұрын

    you can also avoid spaghettification by falling into an extremely large black hole, for a time anyways...

  • @monicahale887

    @monicahale887

    7 жыл бұрын

    gamesbok o

  • @monicahale887

    @monicahale887

    7 жыл бұрын

    gamesbok so

  • @basteagui
    @basteagui6 жыл бұрын

    they are such a nice couple! i love them both

  • @MrDarchangelomni

    @MrDarchangelomni

    5 жыл бұрын

    you would have to walk in their shoes to know.

  • @uscdave1124
    @uscdave11242 жыл бұрын

    You know I really appreciate someone who stops to take a moment and pause to reflect on the fact they're standing at the very desk where Michael Faraday once stood. Truly standing on the shoulders of a giant

  • @stefanhensel8611
    @stefanhensel86114 жыл бұрын

    Now I feel really flattened.

  • @kazuhiramiller7013
    @kazuhiramiller70135 жыл бұрын

    Why is this at the end of the watchmen motion comic playlist

  • @Puppy_Puppington

    @Puppy_Puppington

    4 жыл бұрын

    The Arctic Thing i have no idea o.0 maybe it’s a clue for where ozymandias is lol

  • @surajtiwari2614
    @surajtiwari26146 жыл бұрын

    Sean, Empty space is full of energy.

  • @mammy24

    @mammy24

    5 жыл бұрын

    yup. the same level of energy evenly spread throughout. effectively making it not full of energy.

  • @Drkwll

    @Drkwll

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@mammy24 lols, what funny way for a counter-argument.

  • @arthurriaf8052
    @arthurriaf805228 күн бұрын

    Great talk Sean, thanks.

  • @sambogue6115
    @sambogue61159 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much for saving me on my Science Oral Presentation! I pretty much based the entire report off this video. :3

  • @AMAINE207
    @AMAINE2075 жыл бұрын

    she has the most inviting voice for this topic.

  • @bluellamaslearnbeyondthele2456

    @bluellamaslearnbeyondthele2456

    5 жыл бұрын

    Love her laugh too..

  • @10HW
    @10HW4 жыл бұрын

    if even light cannot escape a black hole then being in the black hole is being showered by light :O

  • @Lynettjames

    @Lynettjames

    4 жыл бұрын

    Absolutely! You are SPOT ON!!!

  • @10HW

    @10HW

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Lynettjames yes!! glad someone understands what I meant

  • @marthareal8398
    @marthareal8398 Жыл бұрын

    Most interesting, makes one think of the positivities quite exciting, thank you both!

  • @benzlevolz9431
    @benzlevolz94314 жыл бұрын

    Excellent presentation. Beautiful and intelligent.

  • @mauricio14junior
    @mauricio14junior9 жыл бұрын

    Well, I'm not actually a physicist, only an enthusiast. Maybe that's the reason I haven't quite understood the contradiction between the Hawking's radiation principle with the integrity of information. I mean, why is there a contradiction? Why information was considered lost by Hawking if the same information that falls into the black hole would eventually evaporated out from it as radiation?

  • @Oners82

    @Oners82

    9 жыл бұрын

    As a simple example to illustrate the point. Imagine throwing a car into a black hole. Now imagine throwing a motorcycle in as well. If another person then studied the Hawking radiation as it evaporates it would be impossible to tell that a motorcycle and car had been thrown in. These objects have very specific information associated with them but this information is seemingly lost to random radiation which violates a key principle of physics. The information regarding the objects that have fallen into the black hole should be in principle recoverable. Please don't take this too literally because we are talking about information on a much more fundamental level but hopefully it helps you to see the problem of information being lost to random radiation.

  • @mauricio14junior

    @mauricio14junior

    9 жыл бұрын

    Oners82 Well. Since I've posted this comment/question I've been studying and reading about these black holes paradoxes. I realized that actually the black hole evaporates not because it irradiates the matter that falls into ir, but because there is anti particles created from the virtual particles separation that happens at the event horizon. So what comes out of it actually comes out of the event horizon and not from inside. If I am right, that answer my question. So in fact, what is coming out of the black hole is not actually coming from inside. It's just the positive particle from the virtual particle that was created at the event horizon. Actually no information is coming out it, and that information that falls into like dust, meteors, etc., is being neutralized by antimatter created at the event horizon. So in fact, by this point of view information would really be lost.

  • @Oners82

    @Oners82

    9 жыл бұрын

    Maurício Júnior No no no!!!! I appreciate the fact that you are doing a bit of research but you are getting it a bit wrong so I'll get slightly more technical with this post. It is true that the mechanism by which black holes radiate is pair production but that is missing the point of the problem. The problem is where does the information go from particles that enter the black hole whether it be the negative particle in pair production or anything else. Black holes can emit radiation faster than they absorb it so where is the information going as it evaporates? It is not in the positive part of the pair that is emitted so where does it go, that is the problem. And no, matter entering a black hole does not get annihilated by antimatter, that is plainly false. Please remember that the time axis is synonymous with a spatial direction toward the singularity beyond the event horizon so it is impossible for there to be any significant amount of antimatter at the horizon. But even supposing there was, what happens when matter collides with antimatter? It is converted to energy which should retain the information. Quantum processes are completely reversible so annihilation between matter/antimatter does not magically eradicate the information. So the paradox remains, where does the information go?

  • @mauricio14junior

    @mauricio14junior

    9 жыл бұрын

    Oners82 If the pair production is the process by which they evaporate, technically the information that comes out is not coming from the black hole. So how can he evaporate if not by the annihilation of matter inside it? I mean, the radiation that is coming out comes from the event horizon, not from inside, right?

  • @mauricio14junior

    @mauricio14junior

    9 жыл бұрын

    Oners82 Or does the meteor that falls into the black hole is radiated out?

  • @Inadharion
    @Inadharion6 жыл бұрын

    Leave "Alice & Bob" to cryptography, you're just confusing the rest of us :p

  • @oxycuntin2059

    @oxycuntin2059

    4 жыл бұрын

    as a student who has to deal with cryptography on the reg I am confused either way

  • @stefanhensel8611

    @stefanhensel8611

    4 жыл бұрын

    Since I learned about the holographic principle, I have the vague idea that black holes and cryptography have very much in common.

  • @expatexpat6531
    @expatexpat6531 Жыл бұрын

    Excellent talk.

  • @kkingofwands
    @kkingofwands4 жыл бұрын

    What an absolutely delightful presentation, David Tong

  • @alwaysdisputin9930

    @alwaysdisputin9930

    2 жыл бұрын

    wrong video mate. I agree David Tong is good better than Carroll

  • @NicenEasyuk
    @NicenEasyuk8 жыл бұрын

    I love the fact that quantum mechanics is now becoming general knowledge.

  • @ThanosSofroniou

    @ThanosSofroniou

    8 жыл бұрын

    Really? Shit I gotta catchup

  • @TheGodlessGuitarist

    @TheGodlessGuitarist

    8 жыл бұрын

    even 5 year olds know the Dirac equation! ;o)

  • @jomen112

    @jomen112

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Steve Bergman What is QW? It that QM upside down?

  • @jomen112

    @jomen112

    8 жыл бұрын

    +NicenEasyuk Maybe, but we, the general public, is still outdated since QFT is fashion among physicists now...

  • @paulmichaelfreedman8334

    @paulmichaelfreedman8334

    6 жыл бұрын

    Quantum Woo are the metaphores that are used to make people understand QM a bit more. Unfortunately, those metaphores are never 100% accurate. Even I am guilty of this for parts of QM.

  • @robertburton304
    @robertburton3044 жыл бұрын

    it has Taken this Man Quite some time and Many Explanations to Say that Somewhere in this Universe and Possibly somewhere outside this Universe he is Both Correct and Wrong...LOL

  • @jengleheimerschmitt7941
    @jengleheimerschmitt79414 жыл бұрын

    I loved the cockney questioner at 1:08 for some reason. "So, like, if you take that door, right... that door, if you take that door... if you take that door, right, well, how do you, like, preserve information in that door?"

  • @DamianReloaded
    @DamianReloaded5 жыл бұрын

    Yes. This is how you talk about black holes. Loved the talk. Very insightful and "down to Earth". Kudos! ^_^

  • @alwaysdisputin9930

    @alwaysdisputin9930

    2 жыл бұрын

    No it isn't. A lot of this video is incomprehensible. DrPhysicsA did the best video on BH. E.g. Carroll said this gooblegook: 47:47 _"In a black hole, the 2-dimensional event horizon really does contain all the information you need, to talk about what's happening inside, according to the holographic principle. But it should be true even in this room, or the galaxy or the universe. & if that is true, locality is being dramatically violated, because there is a lot less that can possibly happen in this room than you thought could. You thought that something could be happening here & something could be happening there & different things could be happening at every point. But the holographic principle says: No, that's not true. 1 of the arguments for it, is if you imagine all of the different possible things that could happen most of them would have a lot of energy & would collapse to make a black hole. So there is an upper limit on the number of things that could happen in this room, & the size of the upper limit is proportional to the area of the walls around this room. So there is this hypothesis that all of physics really lives in a world that is 1 dimension lower than the world we actually see. & again, we are trying to make sense of this idea. We are making progress, but we are not completely there yet."_ _"The other idea that has come out of Black holes and argues against locality is called Black hole complementarity. Remember I said that, from the point of view of Bob from far away, he sees radiation coming out of the Black hole, and he says: well if I trace it backwards, it must have been very high energy radiation when it left the event horizon. Whereas Alice, in the conventional way of thinking about things, passes through the event horizon & sees nothing there, just empty space. So they had incompatible ways of describing the same situation. Bob thinks the event horizon is bubbling with high-energy radiation; Alice says there's nothing there. Black hole complementarity says: they are both correct. Black hole complementarity says they are different-sounding ways of giving equivalent descriptions of the same fundamental underlying reality, & that 2 things that are seen by 2 observers can look very very different, as long as the observers can never get together to compare notes. So what happens is, if you give Bob enough time to collect the Hawking radiation, & figure out what he thinks the horizon looks like, & you give Alice enough time to fall into the horizon. If Bob then says: alright, I've got some data; I know what's coming out of the Black hole. I am going to fly into the Black hole & tell Alice what I saw. It is too late. She has been spaghettified & crushed into the singularity. So these 2 observers see a very different thing happening in the world, but hey can never talk about it. Only we - God-like physicists, looking at the whole thing from afar, can give the bird's eye view on everything that is going on. That is the principle of Black hole complementarity. It's borrowed from the early days of quantum mechanics when Niels Bohr pointed out that you are allowed to measure position, OR you are allowed to measure velocity. You are not allowed to measure both at the same time. That was quantum complementarity; this is Black hole complementarity. So again, it's a violation of locality in some sense. It says that the right way to describe the world isn't what's happening here, & what's happening there, & what's happening there, and what's happening there, separately. What's happening right there can depend in a very dramatic way on who's looking at it & from what perspective. So somehow, all the information about what's going on in the world is not simply located in individual points in space. It's encoded in some cryptic way that we don't yet understand, & that's what we are trying to get at, by doing these thought experiments. The problem is, these 2 types of non-locality, don't seem to be enough to solve the firewall puzzle."_

  • @tibimunteanu
    @tibimunteanu5 жыл бұрын

    Is there a copy of the universe in which we fully understand quantum mechanics?

  • @andrewgalloway7344
    @andrewgalloway73444 жыл бұрын

    WANTED DEAD OR ALIVE SCHROEDINGER CAT. $1000 REWARD.

  • @jellymop

    @jellymop

    4 жыл бұрын

    Andrew Galloway now that is clever. To bad you didn’t post this 5 years ago. It would have a million likes!

  • @josephsmith6777

    @josephsmith6777

    4 жыл бұрын

    Can i get it if hes dead and alive ?

  • @garymingy8671

    @garymingy8671

    3 жыл бұрын

    For me ? Or the cat ?

  • @mitchellball4971
    @mitchellball49713 жыл бұрын

    This is extremely interesting

  • @yendorelrae5476
    @yendorelrae54762 жыл бұрын

    Sean Carroll's wife is brilliant!!! She is an excellent communicator and knows her stuff....and you can tell she really loves her husband Sean, good stuff!

  • @Daitaigenjitsu
    @Daitaigenjitsu8 жыл бұрын

    This video, inspiring the deepest thoughts mankind can imagine - 100k views. Nicki Minaj, Gangdam Style, and Pewdiepie - billions of views. This is harder to conceive of than any topic in this video. Henry Rollins said it best...disgusting, disgusting on an epic scale.

  • @Raison_d-etre

    @Raison_d-etre

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Daitaigenjitsu You just have to go off-topic, don't you?

  • @omegasrevenge

    @omegasrevenge

    7 жыл бұрын

    I wouldn't call it disgusting, I would call it natural. Evolution, even cultural evolution, is very gradual. You can't fault people for behaving like the primates that they evolved from.

  • @stefanhensel8611

    @stefanhensel8611

    6 жыл бұрын

    Guess most of the people are scared off for life from physics (or science in general) in high school. Remember your physics classes? They didn't have much in common with lectures like this, did they? Plus, most of the times they didn't even cover interesting stuff. I think science teachers could learn a lot from KZread.

  • @johnnybgoodeish

    @johnnybgoodeish

    5 жыл бұрын

    My favourite quote from Oscar Wilde: "We are all in the gutter but some of us are looking at the stars".

  • @batmanarkham5120

    @batmanarkham5120

    5 жыл бұрын

    You know there's a lot of physics in the steps of gangdam style lol

  • @captncoffee2056
    @captncoffee20565 жыл бұрын

    Editing tip: Either show the slides long enough to be read or not at all.

  • @MrDarchangelomni

    @MrDarchangelomni

    5 жыл бұрын

    exactly

  • @DNTMEE

    @DNTMEE

    4 жыл бұрын

    Pause the video.

  • @TheGodlessGuitarist
    @TheGodlessGuitarist8 жыл бұрын

    Fantastic lecture.

  • @codeeasly5102
    @codeeasly51027 ай бұрын

    So lucky to have this information for free .

  • @cidfacetious3722
    @cidfacetious37226 жыл бұрын

    Hey it's Sheldon and Amy

  • @kaiserwilhelmbear5094
    @kaiserwilhelmbear50944 жыл бұрын

    light is not a constant speed. That is disproven..

  • @tim40gabby25

    @tim40gabby25

    2 жыл бұрын

    In a vacuum, maybe.

  • @adonaythegreat8426
    @adonaythegreat84263 жыл бұрын

    I do have a question to Sean. The black hole tears the empty space, alice pop into the singularity while bob go away. 1. As nothing escapes from the black hole how could bob manage to do it. 2. After the empty space get torn down, what possibly could left behind on there. Thank you.

  • @_J.F_
    @_J.F_5 жыл бұрын

    Loved this!

  • @prwexler
    @prwexler9 жыл бұрын

    Jennifer Onellette should avoid self deprication, and right from the start: "I'm not worthy." (Nervous laugh...) Of course, you are worthy! The producers of this presentation should consider different microphones. Headsets are distracting.

  • @kirtooahmadinejad

    @kirtooahmadinejad

    9 жыл бұрын

    Peter Wexler I think that's the unfortunate Dunning Kruger effect.

  • @houston34

    @houston34

    9 жыл бұрын

    Peter Wexler it's like giving some kids a short basketball lesson, only there's another big one by Michael Jordan after you, it's safe to have some self deprecation here,

  • @Oners82

    @Oners82

    9 жыл бұрын

    Peter Wexler I think you are probably the only person who gives a shit, let alone even noticed the headsets.

  • @Oners82

    @Oners82

    9 жыл бұрын

    Heavybane No, it's the fact that he is a professional physicist and she isn't.

  • @prwexler

    @prwexler

    9 жыл бұрын

    Oners82 "I think you are probably the only person who gives a shit, let alone even noticed the headsets." Anyone who's got at least an undergrad degree in Speech Communication will notice, and half of those will "give a shit."

  • @RonJohn63
    @RonJohn638 жыл бұрын

    She reminds me of Tina Fey.

  • @PleasestopcallingmeDoctorImath

    @PleasestopcallingmeDoctorImath

    6 жыл бұрын

    RonJohn63 she reminds me of a white noise machine

  • @adankseasonads935

    @adankseasonads935

    5 жыл бұрын

    Kinda looks like her. I thought the same.

  • @christopherbuilder5354

    @christopherbuilder5354

    5 жыл бұрын

    Was just thinking the same!

  • @skinny55772
    @skinny557727 жыл бұрын

    This guy is a beast. Able to give such good, professional speeches while presumably doing full-time academic research and being on the bleeding edge of quantum mechanics. e: 1:30:00 lol also answering impromptu grilling venomous double barrel highly technical questions.

  • @bruceh92
    @bruceh92 Жыл бұрын

    I've worked for one or two companies over the decades that, looking back, was just like jumping into a black hole. They pretty much ripped me to shreds in no time flat - toxic environments that is. Only it had a reverse effect in that it aged me, unlike a real black hole.

  • @jojolafrite90
    @jojolafrite905 жыл бұрын

    The only one who proposed a real new way of thinking about all this are Susskind and T. Hooft. Carrol is a good explainer for the masses, but he is no discoverer.

  • @nostromov7892

    @nostromov7892

    4 жыл бұрын

    Good thing that you are. ;)

  • @dalton6173
    @dalton6173 Жыл бұрын

    I don't understand how classical physicist didn't comprehend that there would be a wall of fire around the black hole considering the fact that the matter just at the precipice of being swallowed should have very interesting properties that are so foreign to life that it would in some fashion shape or form destroy any life that came near.

  • @jerrypeppler1484
    @jerrypeppler14843 жыл бұрын

    What is information? Is it what a thing is made of? Appearance to an external viewpoint? Hight, depth, length, mass? Crib sheets for midterm?

  • @MrDarchangelomni
    @MrDarchangelomni5 жыл бұрын

    Firewall comes from the barrier between adjacent buildings through which utilities are allowed to move and not fire. It was later borrowed by information technologists.

  • @garyedwards5345
    @garyedwards53455 жыл бұрын

    Could the near infinite mass inside the event horizon disrupt particle interactions with the Higgs field, making them massless and allowing them to escape as Hawking radiation? Once outside the event horizon they start interacting to regain mass, giving the impression the black hole is losing mass, and the mass acquired by the black hole is compression of the Higgs field? Arttu Rajantie, a theoretical physicist at Imperial College London, revealed that when space-time is greatly curved, the Higgs boson increases in mass. Could black holes be made up of Higgs boson's and everything else escapes as Hawking radiation?

  • @AndersonStJones
    @AndersonStJones3 жыл бұрын

    Great work.

  • @XuLExcelsi
    @XuLExcelsi4 жыл бұрын

    Tough crowd tonight. 40 minutes in and not even a chuckle. With Sean's other Ri lecture about the Higg's Boson it was such a receptive crowd. I think both Jennifer and Sean were fantastic in this, the right mix of humor and knowledge. Incredibly talented educators.

  • @stupidas9466

    @stupidas9466

    2 жыл бұрын

    It's hard to laugh when you are mesmerized and your jaw is hanging open. Maybe that's why?

  • @trevorjames2051
    @trevorjames20517 ай бұрын

    Thank you both, a question I'd like to put forward begins with a photons red shift. Matter isn't expanding but lights wave length is, could light also suffer a loss of energy in this process to contribute to Dark Energy. Apologies if this is ignorant, again thank you both for the discussion.