I love how you took the inverted sky selection trick and expanded beyond it in different ways! And thank you so much for the shout out and kind words! I really appreciate that. 😊

@SignatureEdits

8 ай бұрын

Thank you so much Brian! ONE for an amazing trick, TWO for sharing it with the world 😊 Let's connect! DM me if you're down

@MrFreakwent

8 ай бұрын

@brianmatias I'm glad you noted in your original video to select *only* the "masks" when preparing to save as a preset. That's an important step in keeping the preset for sky instead of applying other develop panels.

@michaelmcphee2930

8 ай бұрын

Very professional of both of you. Great to see on this dog-eat-dog world. Speaks volumes for your characters and integrity.

@brianmatiash

8 ай бұрын

@@michaelmcphee2930 I agree 100%. It's great when creators lift each other up, and I am very grateful for this example of it.

@gman5375

8 ай бұрын

Two wholesome dudes.

Dayum, i was sooo close to understanding that . Thanks for filling in the masking gaps!

Grab 50% off the AI PRESET TOOLKIT! shop.signatureedits.com/?coupon=AI-CURVES-3487YT34

A valuable enhancement to consider is subtracting the inverted sky 2 to 3 times, which, based on my experience, can significantly improve the quality of your mask. With each subtraction iteration, you are likely to observe a gradual reduction in unwanted bleed, thereby refining the overall outcome.

@SignatureEdits

8 ай бұрын

Definitely worth a shot! I found in my tests that most of the time the first invert is the sweet spot, but on images it doesnt do enough, for sure you can stack and see what happens!

@MFP_Photography

8 ай бұрын

I have been using this technique for several months. You will find the law of diminishing returns applies to the repeated inverted sky subtraction. You will end up with areas you want to keep in the mask as getting masked out. Generally, I find more than 3 inverse subtractions does more harm than good. Like I mentioned I have been using this method for more than 6 month so I am speaking from experience :) .

That's crazy! I run into that so often....thanks you!

Absolutely love the toolkit. It has sped up my workflow so much, so thank you for that! After watching this video, I immediately went and grabbed the updated toolkit files, so I wouldn't have to make the refined presets myself. I was hoping the other style/masking presets would have been updated with refined selections too, but apparently not. Would be a nice addition to the toolkit as a whole, but it's no biggie to refine the masks manually. Still saving tons of time with it!

@SignatureEdits

8 ай бұрын

Great to hear! Hmmm that’s a good point! 🤔 I better go update to add this as an option! The reason I didnt was 1) didnt want to have too many presets 2) this trick works most of the time but not ALL the time 😅 But yes, I think i will go update the rest of em! Give me the next 48hrs

Thanks for sharing this! Something new for me.

Wow! sooo good! Thanks heaps for sharing

@SignatureEdits

7 ай бұрын

Glad you liked it!

Great! I've learnt a lot. Thank you.😄👍

All good and I agree that this will have useful applications. But I find in many landscapes that the bleed is intelligent so that when a sky dehaze (for example) is made, there is NOT a sudden and unatural border. I have been certain that this is an amazing feature by design. Of course, it works for some (eg with a hazy background) and not for others, so I grant that this approach you demonstrate will have a lot of uses (I would imagine often with selecting subject or certain kinds of object). Thank you for the video.

@SignatureEdits

8 ай бұрын

You’re spot on! Im sure the AI has a built in feather setting just like in Ps masking, except in Lr we arent able to adjust it. Thanks for the comment!!

@photonomist6345

8 ай бұрын

@@SignatureEdits Thank you. But I think it is not editable because it isn't a straightforward feathering but is responding to the specific conditions at the edge (but maybe I am wrong). In reality I am often so impressed with how natural the edits are, if not overdone, which with a clean break might make the haziness etc. just below the horizon seem odd when it has been reduced by the sky having been dehazed. As you say though every photo is different and having the manual fix as you describe is a great additional string to the bow; and easy and quick once you practise a bit!

@Mikegaryhouse

7 ай бұрын

I think you’re right, but I also think it still bleeds too much. The select subject examples in the video are a good example. It doesn’t remove all the bleed and potentially leaves enough for that graduation between the layers.

I watched Brian's video just before I went to bed and then the first one I watch this morning was yours. Such a cool trick.

@SignatureEdits

8 ай бұрын

Oh man you're on a roll! Haha. Thanks for the comment and the watch Brett!

Great to learn how to make the brilliant LR tools even better! Thanks for sharing! 😊

@SignatureEdits

7 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

Thanks, I'll try your blending idea.

@SignatureEdits

8 ай бұрын

Let me know how it goes!

Amazing!!!!!! Thank you🙏🏻

Well done, both of you!

@SignatureEdits

7 ай бұрын

Glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching Stefan!

thank you for sharing this!

@SignatureEdits

8 ай бұрын

Of course!! Thanks for watching :)

Incredible easy tip. Many thanks.

@SignatureEdits

7 ай бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

Great tip thanks

I was just dealing with this issue earlier this morning. I resolved it a different way, but this is so much better. Thank you!

@SignatureEdits

7 ай бұрын

Amazing! Glad it helped :)

Thank you man! You have veryyy good tutorials!

@SignatureEdits

8 ай бұрын

Glad you like them! Thanks for watching 🙏🏻💯

This changes everything! Thank you!

@SignatureEdits

7 ай бұрын

Yes it does!

Definitely one to try. Thanks.

@SignatureEdits

8 ай бұрын

Have fun! Thanks for watching 👌🏻

Very cool! Thank you.

@SignatureEdits

7 ай бұрын

You bet!

Such a useful educational video man!! Thanks a lot

@SignatureEdits

7 ай бұрын

Glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching!

Cool trick delivered in a charismatic way. Thumbs up 👍

Great one! Thx!

@SignatureEdits

7 ай бұрын

Glad you liked it!

Great tips that I actually did not know about. That deserves a follow!

@SignatureEdits

8 ай бұрын

Awesome! Thanks for the follow Ken :)

Really great!

@SignatureEdits

8 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching!

Mind blown! Actually it happened in the seventies. This will save so much time. Spent so many hours trying to fix this. Thank You!

WOW! Simple and very effective!!!!! THANKS!!!

@SignatureEdits

6 ай бұрын

Glad it was helpful Burt! Thanks for watching 🙌🏻

Really appreciate the information!

@SignatureEdits

8 ай бұрын

Glad it was helpful Butch!!

Thanks for the video

@SignatureEdits

7 ай бұрын

You bet!

Wow! Brilliant.

@SignatureEdits

8 ай бұрын

Right?! Glad you liked it!

Thank you!

@SignatureEdits

8 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching!

Thank you. I need to try that function sequence. On landscape photos with trees I would select sky but have bleed around the leaves. I would then have to expand the photo display and use subtract -brush and carefully remove unwanted areas, very time consuming. This will speed up that process.

@SignatureEdits

8 ай бұрын

100% Mike! This is EXACTLY where I'm finding it can save a ton of time... Although to be fair, it's also these EXACT images that I'm seeing 50/50 results in terms of sometimes it works, sometimes not so much. Still an awesome tool to have and use when it does!

Incredible 🙌 thank you for this!

@SignatureEdits

8 ай бұрын

You bet! Thanks for the comment ❤️

Insanely good tip! Love anything that helps our work be more refined like this!

@SignatureEdits

7 ай бұрын

Absolutely! 🎉💯

This is great. I very much appreciate this

@SignatureEdits

8 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for commenting :)

wow! great tip!

@SignatureEdits

8 ай бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

¡¡¡Genial❤ Muchas Gracias!!!!!

@SignatureEdits

8 ай бұрын

Denada!

🤯😵‍💫🤯 okay, this video did NOT disappoint!

@SignatureEdits

8 ай бұрын

hahaha THANK YOU Sonia!

Thanks for sharing

@SignatureEdits

3 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching!

There you go! Nice

@SignatureEdits

8 ай бұрын

👌🏻

Holy shit that's awesome ! Now I'm gonna have some fun with editing, thanks for the tips.

Wow!!! That's actually really funny, but also so awesome good!

@SignatureEdits

8 ай бұрын

Thanks! 😄 I agree!

This is amazing. Thank you!

@SignatureEdits

8 ай бұрын

Glad it was helpful Damon! Thanks!

I saw Brian's post the other day and it woks quite well in some situations.

@SignatureEdits

8 ай бұрын

Agreed! What did you think of parts 2-4 for the other applications? Have you tried it?! Would love to hear other people's results on this one :)

I saw this when Brian first shared it a while back. On his more recent video someone had commented about doing an intersect with sky instead of doing a subtract and invert. I gave this a try on a photo and seemed to get the same result. I haven't done extensive testing to see if one is better than the other. Seems to save at least one click by doing the intersect.

@SignatureEdits

8 ай бұрын

Great tip Craig! Ive now built the premade invert into all my AI editing presets so it’s all done with one click 👌🏻🙂

Awesome !!!! Liked & subscribed

@SignatureEdits

8 ай бұрын

Thanks for the sub! And the comment!! 🙏🏻❤️

I watched Brian’s original video. Was a little fuzzy with the steps. Just watched this video and with a slightly different demo. Between these two tutorials I now understand the steps.

@SignatureEdits

8 ай бұрын

Two is better than one! Glad it helped fill in the blanks Stephen :) Appreciate the watch and comment!

Holy crap this is actually so helpful!! And here I’ve been avoiding the select sky mask whenever I can when I could have just been doing this all along 😂

@SignatureEdits

7 ай бұрын

🎉🎉🎉🎉 Lol I agree. So many photos to re-edit ;)

Although it may be apparent to many, it is well worth remembering the process works equally well in ACR.

@SignatureEdits

7 ай бұрын

Absolutely! Should have mentioned this for any ACR users :)

Muchas gracias.

@SignatureEdits

7 ай бұрын

Denada!

Dude .....OMG this works insanely good -Thank you

@SignatureEdits

8 ай бұрын

Right?!! It’s been massive for me too!

I learned more than I was expecting to.....now I'm tired but smiling! Lol, thank you!

@SignatureEdits

7 ай бұрын

Oh man what a comment! 🙂🙏🏻 Glad it helped u thomas!

Hi, I subscribe to Brian Matish, the guy comes up with some great ideas and I`d already viewed his video showing how to do this hack, but I love that you've hacked his hack and expanded it to include subjects and backgrounds. Thank you and once again a big big thank you to Brian Matish for discovering this hack in the first place.

@SignatureEdits

8 ай бұрын

100% Steve! Love how a community can work an idea and come up with more ideas than we ever could on our own :) Grateful for this trick from Brian

Fantastic

@SignatureEdits

7 ай бұрын

Thank you! Cheers!

AI mask + preset is soooooooooo great. Want to try on face masking if it can be better. Currently I select the face skin and substract the eyes and other things to make it better.

I subtract then select subject and that gets the job done for me almost every time

@SignatureEdits

7 ай бұрын

Glad to hear it!

Neat trick👌

@SignatureEdits

8 ай бұрын

Thanks!

Nice work

@SignatureEdits

7 ай бұрын

Thank you! Cheers!

I was having this problem just yesterday with the trees in my photo now I am going to try this as soon as I get home... ❤

@SignatureEdits

8 ай бұрын

Have fun! Let me know how it goes Doug!

I just did this trick and it works amazingly!!!!

@SignatureEdits

8 ай бұрын

Amazing! Glad you found it helpful 👌🏻

@Signature Edits Another way to do the same trick is to intersect the mask with select sky, subject etc - no need to invert as it does the same thing.

@SignatureEdits

8 ай бұрын

Oh man! I'll have to check this out 😊 Cheers! UPDATE* I tried it and don't see how it's doing the same... So if I have a sky selection that is bleeding onto the mountains etc, I would go intersect with.... select background? What am I missing haha

@amasi75

8 ай бұрын

UPDATE: Right. Select Sky. Then intersect with select sky. It removes the bleed just like the invert method.

@sadbravesfan

7 ай бұрын

Is there a video out there that shows what you're talking about? I am lost at what you mean by "intersect the mask" 😳

Wow amazing

Life saver ❤🎉

@SignatureEdits

7 ай бұрын

🎉🎉🎉 Glad it helped ya!

Very interesting. Thank you very much. I agree it’s a little too fast, especially for not English speakers, but that can easily be fixed slowing down the video to 0,75. Great job 👍🏻

@SignatureEdits

7 ай бұрын

Glad it was helpful! Thank you for the feedback 🙂👌🏻

well done

@SignatureEdits

8 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching!

Could have used this on my last session edit.

@SignatureEdits

8 ай бұрын

I feel you 😅👌🏻 Me too!

Genious.

@SignatureEdits

8 ай бұрын

Thanks!!

very nice

@SignatureEdits

7 ай бұрын

❤️👌🏻

Maybe my images aren't as "complex" but I have never experienced this much bleed in using any of those options. Every time I've used the "Select Sky" option, it does a darn good job. And the only thing I deal with when using "Select Subject" is it gets a bit fuzzy around the feet, but my adjustments are generally so subtle it isn't noticeable anyway.

@SignatureEdits

8 ай бұрын

Super interesting! Honestly I thought the same with my images up until I zoomed in and reaaaaally looked close like in this video! My hunch is your images probably have this too, but like you said for subtle adjustments it’s likely you wouldnt ever notice

@AnthonyToglife

8 ай бұрын

@@SignatureEdits I actually just edited an image and yup, it does it, just never, ever noticed.

Super

@SignatureEdits

8 ай бұрын

Thanks!

I’ve been using Chanel’s in PS, I’ll try this now!!

@SignatureEdits

8 ай бұрын

Right on!

Thanks for sharing. Is it possible to invert on LR for iPadOS?

Interesting trick that will very quickly be fixed. I'm betting that the add/subtract options causes the AI to use different initial starting points and training.

@SignatureEdits

8 ай бұрын

I hope so, but I’m not so sure! I’m pretty sure it’s been like this for a long time, the only differences now I know what to do when it happens 😅 my theory is that just like in Photoshop when you have feather and sensitivity controls over your mask, Lightroom has something like that built into the AI settings that we can’t adjust and the folks at Adobe decided works best for most images. perhaps every time we edit an image, it’s training the algorithm, or perhaps, like you say this trick helps it figure out what’s going on better… I guess we’ll wait-and-see :) Thanks for the comment!

Interesting trick

@SignatureEdits

8 ай бұрын

👌🏻❤️

Great Video, and many thanks. I bought all your presents just now. I can load the AI presents to Lightroom CC , but into Classic. I can't load the other presents into Classic or CC, even after reading the PDF that came with AI Presents.

@SignatureEdits

8 ай бұрын

Hi Coatsey! Shoot Im sorry you’re having trouble installing! Can you send me a message via the contact option on signatureedits.com, with a couple screenshots showing where you have placed the presets so I can double check everything is in the right spot? :) Most of the time it is a simple fix!

@Coatsey007

8 ай бұрын

@@SignatureEdits hi, it was a frustrating time but it was a combination of 'USER' error, Lightroom not behaving and a little bit of ease of installation. So much appreciated for responding. 👍🏾

How interesting. I have been doing some event photography of late photographing speakers. So often when I use the AI to select the person, it also selects the bright screen (grrr). I must try this to see if this trick works in this situation.

@SignatureEdits

7 ай бұрын

Awesome idea! Id love to hear how it goes!

I watched Brians video and as you stated, it's not 100%. But it does produce better results. Thanks for the tip on making a preset. I've already made them and it's a time saver. If it's not better, a quick delete. I think Photoshops masking is a little better but what we can now do in Lightroom is amazing. Thanks again.

@SignatureEdits

7 ай бұрын

Glad it was helpful! PS definitely has a lot of options... I wish I knew it better because I'm always frustrated when it's object select or quick selections seem to be incapable of doing the simplest masks haha. I'm sure it's a me thing. What are you using inside PS to select?

@markcasebeer8273

7 ай бұрын

I use different selection tools for different photos. Like Lightroom, you have to try different techniques. I start with the auto section be hovering over the subject.@@SignatureEdits

Do you know if this can be done in Lightroom Mobile? My laptop is a bit too old for Lightroom, so I have to use the mobile version on my iPad. I did try it but when I got to the ‘invert’ part it selected everything but the sky.

This is a brilliant hack, thank you, though the subject mask on you on the mountain wasn’t great. 👏👏 Shame that Adobe is seeing this an fixing the masking in the first place

@SignatureEdits

8 ай бұрын

I totally agree! Like I said, my results have been varied... It works on a LOT of photos, but sometimes the AI masking just doesn't know what it's looking for I guess? Who knows, maybe between this video & Brian's it will catch Adobe's eye! Would be great to have a "feather" or "detail" control under the auto mask

Great tip! Do you have any recommendations for using Lightroom's Enhance for both getting rid of noise and upscaling?

@SignatureEdits

7 ай бұрын

Hey Svet! Honestly I've found enhance doesn't have a ton of options other than just selecting the amount you want to apply... My results have generally been pretty good just with the stock settings, but trial and error is definitely the best to find what works for you! Every situation for ISO lighting, MP of your camera etc is going to be different :)

@svetlanagrobman3476

7 ай бұрын

Thanks!

Wonder if you could subtract and intersect a third time and get even better results? Amazing tipp, thanks a Lot

@SignatureEdits

8 ай бұрын

Hmmm now THAT is a great question! Let me try... *UPDATE* Just tried... You CAN do it a third or fourth or even fifth time, and it WILL grab more... But I'm finding it's actually taking the effect too far instead of making it more accurate. Your results might be different depending on the photo - Can you try it and let me know?!

Brian. One consideration. You didn't mention using the 'Amount' slider to control the preset selection that doesn't quite work. Have you tried this and what was the result? Thanks for all your videos.

Plus tip: you can do the same trick over and over again if you are not satisfied with the first results ( the same sky mask + subtract + invert, then you repeat the Subtract sky and invert as many times as you need in the same mask)

@SignatureEdits

6 ай бұрын

Awesome point Sary! This is true :)

Nog nooit gezien maar ontzettend handig als het mij lukt ga ik het zeker gebruiken

@SignatureEdits

7 ай бұрын

Awesome, so glad it was helpful for you!

Thanks for video. I watched Brian Matiash's video a few days ago and remembered seeing something similar from Todd Dominey a couple of months ago. It took a while for me to understand what he was doing. He also duplicated the revised sky mask and inverted it to get the foreground and then inverted that to get a more accurate foreground mask. I did start getting some halo around my tree branches though. How do you guys figure this out?

@SignatureEdits

8 ай бұрын

Hey Charlie! I think the halo comes down to some kind of built in mask feathering Adobe has. This trick contracts the feather and leaves a halo on certain images. No idea why some but not others. Overall the best fix I've come up with is you can BLEND between the original AI Mask and your updated one by creating TWO masks (One with the original, one with the updated) then adjusting the strength of the effect on each. It's clunky and not great, but it's my best fix for now!

haaaaaaaahaha ! love it!

@SignatureEdits

7 ай бұрын

RIGHT?! 🎉🎉

Is there a similar hack for selecting the sky in PhotoShop? I do a lot of night sky blends in there and struggle with the selection tools. Thanks!

@SignatureEdits

7 ай бұрын

Hmm sadly I'm not a PS guru. You can certainly select the sky and play with the selection controls to expand the mask, expand the feather etc. But I don't know of anything like this! If you find it PLEASE SHARE :) I'd love to know!

So would you put Brian’s video link in your details for this video?

Using Brians Technique for a while now, I believe, that Adobes bleeding Masks are better if your edges have no sharp focus. Whenever you e.g. have leaves of trees with a bouquet or similar in the foreground, the Refinement-Masks (aka Brians way) will lead to al ot of halo (depending what U use them for.

@SignatureEdits

7 ай бұрын

100% agree. In moooost cases this can do a great job... until those few situations where they are much worse!

Goddamn it thats so cool im so gonna try that out thank you for seeing this and then showing us this is awesome thank the other person that you seen it from to

Makes sense. It works with a smaller selection and not the whole photo to analyze and on top of it it probably is coded to not subtract 100% of the parent mask. The issues you highlight are that subsequent uses of the mask is forced to remove a certain amount of the parent mask. If the first mask was good enough a subsequent map is forced to take too much from the parent mask making it effectively worse. So first mask determines the broad subsection of the photo that represents the thing you want to mask. The second pass refines it because it can dedicate more power to refining a smaller area than the whole photo and it is forced by it's algorithms to find something as to not reselect 100% of the parent mask. Third pass is where the issues could come since the algorithms are forced to find something that is not 100% of the parent selection. It could remove actual sky since it has to create enough difference to the parent selection.

Awesome intro

@SignatureEdits

8 ай бұрын

Thanks so much! Hope the rest lived up to it! 😉

You're right -- that shouldn't work....

@SignatureEdits

8 ай бұрын

hahaha yep. blew my mind the first time i saw it

Holy Moly.

@SignatureEdits

8 ай бұрын

Agreed Christopher! :) Thanks for the watch and for the comment!

Great video thanks for the tip. I almost wanna report this as a bug to adobe. Seems like they should do a better job the first time.

@SignatureEdits

8 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed! I think they did it the way they did on purpose, as it probably gives better results a lot of the time by having the higher blend like they do… But yeah, some of the artefacts - THOSE are definitely buggy 😅Hope they fix!

I just puchased the full bundle and have installed. However, there are no quick masks in the AI preset bundle and that was one of the main reasons I bought this bundle. Can you email them to me ? Thanks 👍

@SignatureEdits

8 ай бұрын

Shoot it sounds like you need the updated version :) Can you send me an email from the contact page on Signatureedits.com? I’ll get it to you asap!

@jeroenjonkers7526

8 ай бұрын

Thanks for your quick reaction @@SignatureEdits 👍. I've just send you an email ✍

Can you get it to work with lr mobile