How nice to listen to someone who speaks at a reasonable tempo, giving you time to understand, not at a machine-gun tempo. How nice to see images with time to understand them, not having to roll the video back to find (and stop the video on) the one-second image that shows a core feature...

Bitwig's audio editing capabilities are second to none. You should spend more time with Bitwig. In a year or so, you can't afford to look back to your old DAW. Bitwig's modularity can't be matched with any other DAW. Been using Bitwig for at least 2 years and it never crashed and even if it crashes somehow because of the operating system failure, you still have your automatic back-ups. In short, allow some more time and room in your music life, you will not regret.

Recording Live Bands in a traditional multitrack way: studio one is amazing But Composing and live jamming techno/HipHop/ Sounddesign it is BITWIG with a very fresh approach... it has also an even more modern UI and I just love it

If you like working with audio files such as with bands, S1 is for you. It's audio manipulation qualities are next tier. The only thing I miss is the ability to add note tracks and keep all your audio in key. If you like sound design and freedom to manipulate devices to your heart's desire, Bitwig is for you. Bitwig is like a lego set with all the blocks you need to build whatever you want. Btw since you like sidechaining so much, you can use the sidechain device to build a dynamic EQ with Bitwig stock devices. In Bitwig piano roll is essentially your step sequencer, where you can set the probability and note repeats. For me S1 feels like business as usual, whereas Bitwig feels like an exploration with endless possibilities to be discovered around the next corner.

@Artek604

2 жыл бұрын

Since 5.4 (I think?) you can set audio clips to follow key & scale of the chord track in S1 and it works pretty well.

You mentioned that bitwig lacks a beat editor. I guess you missed that part, because Bitwig has an Beat editor that is much more advanced than Studio One. You can use probability and repeat note as in Studio One. However, you can go further and also set up conditions such as never on fist cycle - with previous - without previous and the list goes on....

The killer feature for bitwig is something you did not mention. Bitwig’s audio engine is a next generation subprocess engine. What that means is that when plugins crash (and third party plugins do crash) you won’t lose your project and have to redo the last few minutes of work you did on it, before a plugin crashed. Bitwig is ALONE in hosting plugins in a separate process so that WHEN (not if) they crash you won’t lose work. SECOND killer feature of bitwig is that you can probably get more plugins to run on bitwig with any given CPU power, than any other plugin, due to a highly efficient multicore engine design.

@nicebluejay

Жыл бұрын

how do i prevent bitwig from killing my cpu when s1 doesn't though?

@MaximusWhyman

Жыл бұрын

@@nicebluejay Ya, this is something I’ve noticed. I’m on a M1 MacBook and S1 is slightly better on the cpu. Cubase 12 and Ableton 11 are better than both for me cpu wise.

@kraenk12

Жыл бұрын

@@nicebluejay WEll you likely use a lot of modulators, something you can't do in the other DAWs.

Great overview! Thanks for sharing :) My 0.02$: 7:55 you can also transpose MIDI in Bitwig via Inspector, however this is per clip (not track) which has its pros & cons 11:10 you dont' get more routing than in Bitwig, in fact it's much less - Bitwig has splitters & container devices (layers, selectors) for MIDI, instruments and audio so there's practically nothing you can't do - although I agree it easier to see & grasp in S1; also MIDI signal flows uninterrupted through the chain, so you can use MIDI effects and MIDI-driven audio effects (e.g. stutter edit) still on the same track

@SupercyMusic

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks, Artur! Very useful additional info 👍

One feature that I love in S1 that I cannot find in Bitwig (or any other DAW) is the section labelling feature in the Arranger lane. Once a section is labelled can be moved around in the arranger without having to select all tracks. Clips and automations for all tracks in the section are moved along with the arranger label, which makes it super easy to try different layout of your track or just move section around to experiment with different drop length without having to make big selections. On top of that it clearly gives you an immediate understanding of every section based on the label name, intro, verse, chorus, outro or whatever else as they are completely customisable.

@Artek604

2 жыл бұрын

There's just markers (flags) in Bitwig that can signify your sections. However, using time-selection tool (key '2') you can make a selection at the top beat ruler and then drag it around. It doesn't dynamically make space between other sections like S1 does, but at least there's something :)

@xkimu

2 жыл бұрын

@@Artek604 Thank you, I have learned something new. Not as good as S1s' but better than nothing.

@BradleyBemis

2 жыл бұрын

This is called Regions in Reaper and is super useful. I was hoping that this feature would be in Bitwig.

In Bitwig you can change the notes (transpose) the notes of a clip which makes more sense to me than changing the whole track, I like what I see from Studio One I think it's better to do mixes but I feel it tends to work like a DAW, Bitwig feels more like an instrument than a DAW which is really good to be creative.

@johnisrael5183

2 жыл бұрын

Yep exacly...Bitwig is more like a Song Designer.....Studio One is better for mixing and mastering

@WarrenPostma

2 жыл бұрын

Bitwig is great for jamming and composing and working the way Ableton users work

@BR_READDY225

Жыл бұрын

Spoken like ppl who only know how to work in one program

@BorisBarroso

Жыл бұрын

@@BR_READDY225 I have used Cubase in the past long ago and also Reason. Also used Reason like a year ago and did not like it.

Another well balanced, informative and objective video from our host which I can't help but agreeing 100% with his conclusions. One DAW is not better than the other but might be better for YOU depending on your preferred workflow, music style and objectives be they experimental sound design or more traditional audio creation. The one major flaw for me in Bitwig is that AFAIK you cannot apply the rhythmic groove and dynamics of one MIDI part or audio file to another MIDI part or audio file a.k.a. 'groove quantise' in other DAWS.

@SupercyMusic

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! 👍

These 2 daws combined will be my perfect daw. Bitwigs UI and sound design capabilities along with a better clip view. And studio one for literally everything else.

@WarrenPostma

2 жыл бұрын

Currently I’m using cubase plus bitwig, but I’ve always been Studio1Curious

@genuinemember5766

Жыл бұрын

Nakul bro we need more content and updates on ur channel , lots of love (Big fan of KK sir ) ❤️

@jeffreyhanc1711

Жыл бұрын

@@WarrenPostma left cubase a few years ago for S1 and have honestly never looked back. Just a streamlined breath of fresh air for me. The only issue I’m having with S1 - exemplified by their recent release of v6 - is that they definitely seem to be focusing more on the audio mix/master side of things (I think they’re feeling like they can supplant Pro Tools as the deflacto industry backend DAW of choice - and they may be right). But as I’m recently more into more electronic-experimental stuff S1 feels a bit lagging. For mix n mastering I’m sold - it’s great. But the front end experimental stuff is why I’m here sniffing around a daw like bigwig…

What a CLEAN video. 10/10, my friend.

@SupercyMusic

Жыл бұрын

Thanks, Wasabi 😉

Thanks Percy this was very interesting 👍😊

@SupercyMusic

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks, Jenny 😉

4:20 the way I understand it, the sidechaining capability has been abstracted into the macro feature which can be used on any parameters and any device

Bitwig is all about flexibility and consistency. For instance you like Studio One having a special "Transpose" function but what if you want to have other note effects rather than transposition? Then you have to proceed in a completely different manner so you have to remember that changing the notes by transposing them happens one way, changing the notes in other manners happens in a completely different and inconsistent manner. In Bitwig, if you want to change notes it's done through the Notes effects whether it's transposing or anything else. In addition to consistency, this is also a more flexible solution. What if you want to modulate the pitch shift with something else - i.e., go up a half step for a certain portion of the piece? In Bitwig it's easy to put a modulator in the not shifter. Not sure that this is even possible in Studio 1. The consistency means that this freedom to modulate extends to other note functions and even all effects/synths. I much prefer the consistency/flexibility in Bitwig over the various special cases of Studio 1 so I disagree with your assessment of the supposed higher UI elegance of Studio 1.

automation features in bitwig are amazing in that you can automatically create several automation tracks on the go.

Man, I REALLY hope Studio One will get a clip-launcher feature. It would be a game-changer!

I use both. The pattern sequencer in S1 and The Grid in BW are my fave features

dope thing about bitwig far as updates you get the new versions also with super features. s1 wont really give you super features when giving you updates untill new version drops then you pay for new version. bitwig knows it have to give you some definitely updates with features because we paying for a year

@leo.nordmann

Жыл бұрын

And the frequency of updates is just enormous compared to s1. In the last 10 months we got maybe some bug fixes in s1 and in bitwig we got note grid, new modulation fx, delay+ and convolution new osc and filter for the grid / polymer and a lot of other things I can't recall rn.

There are both great

Hi, in Bitwig to transpose you select your clip and bottom left click "i" that shows you the info of your clip and bottom left you have the Pitch, with lots of other things S1 do not have or can do. I'm a S1 user who also just started to look at Bitwig. Many other things S1 has that Bitwig doesn't but Transposing is not one of them. Thanks for the Video.

@SupercyMusic

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks, that's very useful 👍 However, I still haven't found an easy way to transpose an entire track.

@Artek604

2 жыл бұрын

@@SupercyMusic Whole track you can only do using the Note Transpose device as you showed.

You can build something like patterns in bitwig yourself via notegrid. What I really want bitwig to do is to open up their DAW to extensions by end users, like Reaper does. I should be able to write my own Pattern system and plug it into bitwig.

Hey, the way bitwig and S1 are the same with the upgraded plan, bitwig will let you update till the next bitwig version, so if youre on bitwig 4.9 lets say, and you still have an upgrade plan, by the time bitwig 5 is out you will be able to upgrade for free!

I own both myself. I find Studio one more intuitive but I've had it for about three years longer then Bitwig. When it comes to sound design Bitwig has to be the best DAW I've tried so far. I still use Studio one for recording and mixing but if I want to create a sound that is unique I reach for Bitwig. I also have Reaper and I'm slowly teaching myself how to use it. I'm still struggling with the idea that a track is a track. Setting up busses and fx sends is totally different then any other daw. The main reason I'm trying to learn reaper is the value. I bought my license for, I believe, $60 and thats it. I haven't had to re-buy the software due to time restrictions or updates. I also appreciate how much you can customize it. At the same time thats what, at times, makes it more confusing. At the end of the day the best DAW is the one you know. For that reason I still reach for Studio One before anything else.

@August_IV

Жыл бұрын

You should try ableton.

studio one got the splitter idea from bitwig 1.MULTIBAND 3 you can add many plugins in each band. 2. XY instrument 🔥 3. XY Fx 4. you can put effects into any other plugin to create anything s1 splitter is dope but all those plugins you create in the splitter will show on the console

@SupercyMusic

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for your input👍 That's very interesting!

@LossLeadas

2 жыл бұрын

@@SupercyMusic thank you

i want to edit multiple midi notes that start at different points and end at different points, but i want them to end exactly at the end of a bar. s1 can do this but i don't think bitwig can. anyone know if i can in bitwig?

Great comparison. However I’d argue about studio one splitter page. I used s1 for years before switching to bitwig and splitter was just pain in the back side to use. Not flexible and time consuming to set up something more than parallel compression. Also splitter can (9/10) crash program especially when using 3rd party plugins. Hope they polished bode a bit and now it work better. I jumped ship at version 4.5 I think….

@mrquick6775

Жыл бұрын

So you’re using bitwig now huh? What version of bitwig?

*I use Bitwig Studio because I switched to Linux (Fedora Workstation). Before that, I used Studio One on macOS and it was cool, but the current setup suits me better.*

@leo.nordmann

Жыл бұрын

how are you using it on fedora? Been playing around with it too there. Really like the pipewire integration.

With regards to transpose, you indeed missed something. It can in fact be pinned to the top menu bar.

Not to mention there are quite a lot of ways to own S5 Artist for free, like if one is in the market for audio interface that comes with it. Upgrading to S5 Pro is then even less expensive.

Bitwig might be more expensive with the upgrade model, but it always adds way more content more frequently. I bought bitwig in october last year and since then there were at least four major updates bringing big features to the DAW. On the other hand with studio one there only were some bug fixes in that time span.

In S1 how do you get the inserts to show next to the fader vs on top?

@SupercyMusic

2 жыл бұрын

On the left side of the mixer, you should see a symbol with two arrows, one pointing up, the other pointing down. They're either pointing at each other or away from each other. Clicking that symbol will toggle between inserts showing either on top of or next to the fader.

When i want to Sidechain in Bitwig... i take a Tool and utilize a Audio Sidechain Modulator! And then i am going to duck the Volume of the Tool! And it Sounds so good! This is my way to Sidechain in Bitwig

to sidechain other compressor..add "audio sidechain" in show modular

@Qubie1

2 жыл бұрын

Myeah, I was like: "But you can sidechain everything."

@LossLeadas

2 жыл бұрын

@@Qubie1 you really can 🔥

@LossLeadas

2 жыл бұрын

@@Qubie1 no daw allow you to do that...

@Qubie1

2 жыл бұрын

@@LossLeadas after 2-3 years i'm still discovering things. so no worries :)

I have used studio one I like the features but it's hard connecting midi hardware and standalone gear as a keyboard player bitwig came quiet natural to me I use all my keyboards and drum machines pretty easily

In Studio One I create songs while in Bitwig I do sound design… I’m way more productive In Studio One, but indeed I do miss the modulators ..

Use both I guarantee you you won't a barely scratched the surface of Bitwig though, you can create so many unique devices in it I love watching Polarity musics videos. But back to the use both. No 1 daw can do everything. For example if your scoring for movies , orchestral work that's going to require a different setup than say hip-hop, or rock pop songs. If your just playing some basic songs then anything will probably work, if your deep into unique sound design then bitwig is amazing but I also use it for looping like Ableton stuff using real hardware instruments.

Cpu hit? Summing all together end results? (sound quality) 🤔

I use Ableton Studio One and Bitwig. They are all great DAWs.

English: I'm really looking forward to the live looping mode in Studio one. English: Thanks for the review

@SupercyMusic

2 жыл бұрын

You're welcome, Sergey 👍 I'm also looking forward to it.

4:43 Bitwigs whole thing is the modulators, you sidechain with an audio input modulator. The method you're doing works but no wonder it feels clunky

I love Studio One but on the recent crash I decided to take a look at Bitwig... Is it worth switching?

@SupercyMusic

Жыл бұрын

Ultimately, of course, that is for everyone to decide for themselves. But I just happen to have recorded a video on Bitwig which you might find interesting. I'll be posting that later today 😉

i love S1 since i had first version but it has to many bugs and crashes especially dealing with vst instruments

@paradoxic1888

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I second that. Bitwig saved me on loosing entire day's work of projects because of the built-in failsafe if a plugin misbehaves. Honestly I hardly ever get crashes.

@nikodemgenodem737

2 жыл бұрын

i never had crash in s1 . wtf are you talking? im win 10 user.

@paradoxic1888

2 жыл бұрын

Bro I'm not blaming S1, Bitwig has a plugin sandbox functionality that prevents the DAW from crashing when a plugin misbehaves. So even though the DAW is stable, your plugins won't always be. Kapish?

@nikodemgenodem737

2 жыл бұрын

@@paradoxic1888 s1 doesnt need the tool, because s1 never crash. kapish🙄

@paradoxic1888

2 жыл бұрын

@@nikodemgenodem737 Geez I give up. Yes if you use a limited array of plugins that are stable you won't have a problem or if you have the hardware that can handle it. But in some instances plugins cause problems. So good for you, probably helps if you only work with samples and native plugins or 1 or 2 trusty VSt's.

08:00 transpose functions in the inspector at the bottom…

RE: Studio One when it comes to version upgrades, you get a reduced price if you own a previous version.

Not sure if these are comparable in the way you did it. I've been using cubase since 1991 and just got bitwig because it's not like cubase. Whereby cubase and Studio one are similar. Bitwig and Studio one are different animals.

Downside of Bitwig, no tempo mapping ... correct me if I'm wrong.

Descendants of Cubase VS Descendants of Ableton. Each have their own merits. Another few releases after, will be indistinguishable. May be Descendants of Studio one and BitWig comeout with a StudioWig or BitOne. Who knows.... Regards.

Seems to me that you have not yet chosen to embrace what bitwig has to offer! These are two very different approaches and probably shouldn't be compared at all? In my opinion you should use both if that gives you the results you are looking for! Software is just one of the tools that you will need to make good recordings! I personally use bitwig for my personal stuff but I have to stick to Protools because I have used it for decades and most of my major recordings are on this platform! Through the comment section I would agree that bitwig is more like an instrument and requires the user to engage rather than be engaged so it will not lead but follow if that makes since? This is why most engineers stick with analog consoles because they only do one thing, but they they do that one thing very well to the point that it is transparent! This is where DAWs are headed! I haven't found that One yet, but I am excited about all the new innovative and creative software bring offered! Don't get caught up in looks and features, it all means nothing if it gets in the way of making good music! Cheers!

I am a S5Pro user and love the abundant capabilities. But when it comes to the best best work-flow, it's hard to beat my Mixcraft 9 Pro Studio. The editing on Mixcraft is something I'm hoping Studio One can adopt at some point.

@SupercyMusic

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks, Art! I've never really tried Mixcraft yet ... sounds like I should 😉

@cathywilson1273

Жыл бұрын

@Art Sanchez, I also have Mixcraft 9 Pro Studio! Can two or more tracks be edited at the same time...in the same window? I also have Studio One 5 Pro. 🙂

I won't continue to comment as I think we're gonna disagree on so many things, but the fact that you are very excited about the splitter which, apparently, is the only thing that S1 has to offer for routing effects, tells me that a lot of your comments are because you just don't understand Bitwig very well. I'm not sure you really understand the nested effects either. They are there to act on parts of the signal which normally is unavailable in something like S1. So you can put effects BETWEEN echoes in a delay. Again, flexibility that just isn't there in S1. S1's splitting is handled by one among many of Bitwig's containers - the FX Layer. Again, fully modulatable unlike the S1 splitter and it sits directly in the device panel view which normally sits at the bottom of the screen and is shown exactly where it goes in the chain of synths, other effects and note effects rather than displaying effects only in a separate window. So much better in my opinion. I'm glad you like S1 but I feel like your familiarity with it is blinding you to the Bitwig philosophy of flexibility and consistency which is what makes Bitwig so special. Bitwig's emphasis is on giving you tools which you can hook together in a myriad of very consistent ways so that you have maximum flexibility to achieve whatever your imagination can come up with. S1 is about assuming that things are going to be done in a certain way and catering to that way while disallowing other options. There is a special place to transpose because they assume you are going to transpose a track one time for a full piece and that's all you're going to do with the transposition. It IS easier to do that one thing. If you want to use it any way other than that, too bad. If you want to put effects into the track that's done in an entirely different place and entirely different way than transposing the track. In bitwig, both note transposition and splitting effects are done the same way - add something to the device panel. They are both shown exactly where they take place in a chain of effects and can be shifted around anywhere in that chain to achieve special effects. Oh - also, you ask if there is any way to "directly transpose a track in Bitwig" - yes, it's very simple and done just like all other such things in bitwig - by adding something (in this case a Note Transpose) to the device chain. I'm not sure why this doesn't correspond to "directly transposing". I suppose that "direct" means putting a special counter somewhere that would transpose the track but be far less consistent and flexible than a note effect in the device chain.

@SupercyMusic

Жыл бұрын

Darrell, thanks for your comment. First of all, whenever you disagree with me, please feel free to comment! But in this case, I agree with you almost 100%. I know that Bitwig, in many ways, is more flexible than S1; I kinda also said so in the video (albeit maybe not in so many words). The point I was trying to make though is that imo S1 feels a bit more "matured" and "polished" and is ahead of Bitwig when it comes to "ease of use". And about transposing a track, that was just a little example of exactly that. The option to transpose a track in S1 is right there in the track inspector area. I know that it is not difficult to transpose a track in Bitwig, but first of all, anyone who's not familiar with Bitwig will have to search for it; that already says something. And it takes another 1 or 2 steps to achieve. Again, that is just a little example of why I think S1 is ahead of Bitwig in terms of ease of use. Of course, there are many ways to transpose a track or a midi part or whatever in Bitwig, and it becomes that much more difficult to make an interface easy to use and understand when the software offers you that many more options to achieve something. I think that is kinda what you meant, and that's a very good point. But it doesn't take away the fact that (imo) S1 feels more polished (as I call it), that's just one of its strengths, whereas Bitwig is more flexible, that is one of its strengths. Do you agree with that? By the way (FYI), I recently decided to fully switch to Bitwig as my main DAW 😉

U can modulate on studio one also just hit record and move whatever knob u want and it's done

I disagree, the ui in studio one is much worse than bitwig's. Bitwig is clear, and refined Imo. Also working with audio is much nicer in bitwig.

Bitwig ♥️

@SupercyMusic

2 жыл бұрын

👍

Based on your comments about how "much clearer" Studio One is, I don't think that you understand Bitwig very well. I have both, and Studio One is not getting much use these days.

Studio One by a mile. Ableton and Bitwig are quirky DAWs, they are the new FL Studio. Studio One and Cubase are like a road bicycle, they will get you to work on time efficiently. Ableton and Bitwig are like a BMX, you could ride it to work and try to do everything on it, and there always is that guy who tries to do that, but that guy also has a Starbucks sticker on his Macbook, is an advocate of toe shoes and is a furious consumer of overpriced grenola bars. We all know this guy, he means no harm and is good at what he does, but ask yourself, are you Ethan, the arts major / progressive millennial, daily dark ambient Spotify playlist + VICE media consumer?

Well bitwig it's more of Ableton/reason clone to some level. Also I use the grid for building more well reason style effects. But I do agree still on the UI design

@kraenk12

Жыл бұрын

Bitwig is done by former Ableton developers.

S1 is excellent daw, but bitwig is the future.

@SupercyMusic

2 жыл бұрын

I think you might be right in a way. S1 is a great DAW, but maybe they should implement their own versions of some of Bitwig's features.

and REAPER is crying over there, in the corner 😛

@SupercyMusic

2 жыл бұрын

Reaper doesn't have some of the "modern" features that Bitwig and/or Studio One have, but of course, Reaper does have its own strengths 😉

@antrix1331

2 жыл бұрын

@@SupercyMusic oh, reaper literally have most features, which all other daws have, it's just they are hidden deep inside it ;) BTW, WILL YOU REVIEW ESC 2022 just like you did before??

@SupercyMusic

2 жыл бұрын

I agree that Reaper does have a lot of "hidden" features, however, the interface of Reaper isn't the easiest to get around, IMO. I'm not gonna do a review of ESC 2022 (maybe next year again 😉), but I can tell you that my favorite song this year was from Portugal!

@antrix1331

2 жыл бұрын

@@SupercyMusic same here, Portugal is my most favourite too. Unfortunately, can't even come into top 5 :( what other songs you liked??

@SupercyMusic

2 жыл бұрын

I also liked the Netherlands (my home country), Sweden was pretty nice and I liked the performance of the UK. And there were some other nice songs.

Bitwig copies Waves upgrade model

You missed Bitwig’s drum machine that is way more powerful than Studio One pattern tool.

Bitwig should be a plugin than a daw.

@nutsosix7930

2 ай бұрын

seeing how its only 300mb.

@nutsosix7930

2 ай бұрын

studio one is even less.

Another theme will be better, the less tired it will be.

Mixcraft 9 - less expensive and does the job

BITWIG BIG..BIG..BIG.! 🎉🎉😂❤👌🏻👌🏻

Bitwig UI is resizable, Studio One is not. an important consideration for those of us whose eyesight ain't what it used to be.

@WarrenPostma

2 жыл бұрын

I love bitwig’s ability to scale the whole ui by your own chosen percentage

@moontan91

2 жыл бұрын

@@WarrenPostma i keep mine at 125% for the time being. maybe i'll go up to 150% in a few years. lol ; )

My bro 😎 I think the Reaper put them all behind . Thanks 🙏

@SupercyMusic

2 жыл бұрын

Reaper is another great DAW! 👍 And of course, it has its own pros and cons.

@MaximusWhyman

2 жыл бұрын

I love Reaper also, but it doesn’t put them all behind. No matter what theme, it’s still ugly. The live looping, Grid, and modulating anything Reaper can’t do, or at least very well. S1 has better composition tools, retrospective recording(can’t live without) and imo it looks a hell of a lot better

@MaximusWhyman

2 жыл бұрын

And by the way, I use Ableton Live mainly, but S1 was my first love. Bitwig/Reaper/Cubase I mess with weekly. They all have there strengths and it’s personal preference.

Bi what? Studio one is one of the best options for production and mix.

@danemiller4852

2 жыл бұрын

I would recommend trying bitwig if you love production. The ease of use for new users to start creating is insane. Studio one is awesome as well. But I made the switch to bitwig and Holy hell I have never been able to create so many sounds and productions in such a short amount of time.

There is no comparison between Bitwig and Studio One Pro. S1 is the best DAW on the market. Bar none.

I own both and still I‘m using Steinberg Nuendo/Cubase. Bitwig is still lacking video support which makes it completely useless for film music and Studio one is lacking middle mouse for moving in the timeline. I HATE Presonus for not implementing this industry standard behaviour from the deepest bottom of my heart. Every f*cking audio software is able to do this. Studio One is not.

Stay with StudioOne, Bigwig is a ripoff unless you muck with modulators. Presonus will steal all the ideas soon anyway.

@leo.nordmann

Жыл бұрын

Lol well imo studio one is more of a ripoff than bitwig is. Bitwig dishes out actual feature updates way more frequently than s1 does. The only real thing I got with version 5 of s1 that was relevant to me was the clip gain envelope and a few other things, but most of it was irrelevant to me. yea bitwig might be more expensive on the big picture, but from my experience you also get more for your money. And if me paying for an upgrade plan helps them stay in business and in tern give me access to frequent cool features then I'm all in for that. People got different tastes in DAWs though so I think it's not for everyone. I really like the audio workflow of studio one and wish bitwig did some things better in that regard, but overall it's still a better daw for me.

@CybreSmee

Жыл бұрын

@@leo.nordmann Wow, so you've had to do one S1 update in 13 years and you're complaining? At least they still support and release updates for recent versions. With BWS you HAVE to pay $150 per year or you get zero updates or support. This is on top of the $400 you've just paid for the software in the first place. Its good software, but greedy and predatory.

@MaximusWhyman

Жыл бұрын

@@CybreSmee S1 you pay $150 every two years for an update, not much better. Nothing beats Reaper, Logic, or Fl Studio for their upgrade models.

@CybreSmee

Жыл бұрын

@@MaximusWhyman You don't have to. S1 still gives full support to ALL customers, even v1. Thats the difference.

Buy Cubase /Nuendo or Pro Tools :P

@Artek604

2 жыл бұрын

Why? Both Bitwig an S1 are better than them :)

@earlsfield

2 жыл бұрын

@@Artek604 Well... 1. I am trolling a bit because DAW battle has been mostly meaningless as you can get quality out of any of them. but..2.Cubase/Nuendo (depending on are you working on music only or with multimedia and games, therefore, Nuendo) has MIDI fiunctionality that eats any other daw for breakfast. I've been using Cubase since 1996., there is something in the legacy and the experience developing DAW. not to say its without flaws , some of them really annoying. Pro Tools - well that was pure trolling, although it IS industry standard :P

@Artek604

2 жыл бұрын

@@earlsfield Yeah, I get this. For certain type of productions, especially scoring for film, recording bands or driving a big hardware studio; Cubase is still pretty much unbeatable. But for electronic music or majority of everything else (smaller traditional productions) it has fallen behind quite a bit. Doing anyhing in Cubase is 2-3 steps more than in Studio One, sound design options compared to Bitwig are simply not there or require multiple plugins & workarounds. I'm looking forward to Steinberg finally allowing to sell licenses under the new eLicenser-less scheme and get rid of my Pro 12 :)

@earlsfield

2 жыл бұрын

@@Artek604 joke aside, you are right. It does fit my needs as I have lots of hardware and I am personally into the workflow but lack of things like basic lfo for ages support what you are saying. It emulates studio, rather than being all around tool, that you can quickly fire up and do whatever with your stock stuff, there is always “something” to be done, third party plugin, workaround etc. But it compensates when you have a big setup, mixer, strip, controllers, digital/hybrid/analog mixers, plus Nuendo has specific support for middle ware which is essential for me working on games music and sound. The simple proof that it was never intended as “all in one” is that damn dongle, ok they got rid of it, but I really dont know what other daw I would use, with my setup which is pretty huge. Also, asio guard and all those options are a blessing when you fire up virtual orchestra template I work with that breaks Logic in half:)

@danemiller4852

2 жыл бұрын

Each daw is built for specific purposes. :) you just gotta find the right one for you.