Don't see it as a battle, see it as two old steel giants paying respect to each other.

How has it taken me so long to find this amazing video! One of Stanier's legends meeting one of Gresley's legends, nothing could be more glorious. I may need a minute, I seem to have something in my eye.... :)

@kennethmustill5451

5 жыл бұрын

Alex the Mol

@aidenarroyo8561

2 жыл бұрын

It is a very special treat indeed. Personally I favor the Duchess over Bittern simply due to their valve gears. But this was a legendary video. I would love to see 3 Locomotives from the 3 Groups all whistle battle. For me that would be 60009 Union of South Africa from LNER, 6027 Princess Elizabeth from LMS, and Kind Edward II from GWR.

So pleased Bittern was preserved. It was the first A4 pacific I 'copped'. Idle in the yard at York in 1963 I think. It looked majestic.

@sprinterofficial8457

Жыл бұрын

The first A4 pacific was actually 2509 (60014) Silver Link But bittern ran the last A4 powered train under British Railways

@drstrangelove2771

Жыл бұрын

@@sprinterofficial8457 I think I copped three A4 Pacifics that day at York.

Not only the steam trains in the contest the diesels and electrics are joining in too lol

@antonio4ballondor30

Жыл бұрын

And failing, miserably

3:33 I feel an intense stare off!

0:56 Pendolino:Hi bittern cya bittern Bittern:😕

@leokodnia4212

5 жыл бұрын

nothingtoputhere

@leokodnia4212

5 жыл бұрын

nothingtoputhere

@FiatCoupe20v

5 жыл бұрын

1:56 Green train: *starres at bittern* woah that engine is siiiickkkkk..... Hehehehe Bittern: 😗☕ *drinks the tea*

@paullee5573

3 жыл бұрын

Thatstupid pendo even sounds patheti in comparison to Bittern

This has gotta be one of the most craziest, most awesome video EVER! :D

Cracking stuff, Jeff. Glad to see it go to plan for you !

Wow...and wow again Jeff, that is simply brilliant !!!

@MrKnowwun

9 жыл бұрын

bus2birds I thank you.

This doesn't happen often, nice one!

I was there but in the evening when they were making the return trip. Great to see one engine leave and another one arrive.

I remember this happening at Laira earlier this year with 5043 and 5029

Fantastic whistle contest from all four locos Jeff. Cameron

Wow! That A4 pulled away like an HST125!

@almostkentish3042

4 жыл бұрын

Slowly?

Wow. Amazing shots of both engines together... I am hoping to see Bittern on her Farewell Tour next month.

@MrKnowwun

9 жыл бұрын

JBtrainman And me, planning to travel into the fens

cute... 1:58 'is that the flying scotsman'. nope. ^^ great capture. love seeing two steam locomotives pass as they run charters, brings back the olden days ?

I'll bet that caused a little confusion among the enthusiasts that day, as well as excitement; which one do we snap/video? :P

Excellent video

This is wholesome.

Quite fine engines!

A4 vs Coronation Class......don't make me choose.....love 'em both....I'm old enough - and lucky enough - to have seen both in working order, trainspotting at Doncaster with the A1/2/3/4s and the occasional visit to Crewe for the LMS stuff....happy days long gone....

Thankyou for a great capture of these two wonderful locomotives. I’m a compulsive coach counter, I have to know how many coaches the loco is handling. It’s always a joy when the last coach passes without an intrusive diesel hanging on the back,as in the case of Bittern, and a slight disappointment when you see one of the infernal things grumbling away, as the Duchess had. I’m sure there are perfectly valid operational reasons for the diesel being present, but you always have the sneaking feeling that a rear end shove is taking place. This ever so slightly spoils the authenticity of the occasion for me, or am I possibly just being a bit churlish?

@MrKnowwun

4 жыл бұрын

Its the preserved train on main line dilemma

The filmer: trying to film the Duchess of Sutherland and the A4 The class 390s and 66:imma bout to block this man’s whole view!

Ok, so we have Flying Scotman and Spencer...... Wait, where is Gorden?

Now here's the real question: Gresley Chime, or Stanier Hooter?

@SpottingWithSam

4 жыл бұрын

i cant Decide >-

@duchessofhighlands9665

4 жыл бұрын

AlmostKentish Hooter lol

@bussesandtrains1218

4 жыл бұрын

Oh what a difficult question

@ajf3202

4 жыл бұрын

Stanier

@mattybutler1985

4 жыл бұрын

I'll answer the question with a question - which one made your ears bleed more?

Bittern with his blood and custard livery team coach. Hooting of passing PANDOLINO virgin trains on the London to Wolverhampton route.

Sounds like a few big kids having a bit of fun

As a kid i used to go train spotting. Think i may have seen some of these trains mind you that's a century ago.

That's a busy station, plenty to watch....

That was Kool. The most powerful British loco meets it's fastest locomotive......

@aidenarroyo8561

2 жыл бұрын

No the Duchy isn't the most powerful. 70010 Duke of Gloucester is the most powerful. It's a rebuilt Class 8F

Hi Jeff , Great shots there , whistling concerto very good...Dave

@MrKnowwun

9 жыл бұрын

***** I was counting on the whistle exchange happening, thats why I went there.

@locomotive67

9 жыл бұрын

I whistle for nothing lol,,Cheers Jeff

@MrKnowwun

9 жыл бұрын

***** I'd pay you not to whistle

@locomotive67

9 жыл бұрын

you could not afford me any way... lol

@locomotive67

8 жыл бұрын

(:O)

Coolest steam trains ever

Just gonna say, even though mainline steam engines are, I'd say oversaturated with BR green and black, the dutchess looks great in Brunswick green

Ce putere si ce greutate aderenta are o masina MALARD ? Multumesc.

I heard sombody say "is that the flying Scotsman?"

@bussesandtrains1218

4 жыл бұрын

Lol

@michaelhawthorne8696

3 жыл бұрын

I believe it was the same 4-6-2 arrangement and the correct livery colour, could be forgiven at first glance to make this mistake.... Although the name on the side is a little give away...😉😏

Hehe you did great there. Probably the only vid at Rugby with no bald heads in sight! Did you really take a step ladder all the way to Rugby to film that? Cheers, Dave.

@MrKnowwun

9 жыл бұрын

***** Yes I did, if you look in some other videos you can see me up it. I rocked up there on Thursday and checked it out, and decide the best shot was up a ladder.

@southwestrailaviationprodu3072

7 жыл бұрын

D1002 Western Explorer just subscribed to your great channel please subscribe back to mine love this video too

great day i was on the duchess that day i was in the 2nd carriage from the front

Great to watch. could a modern steamer compete price/ economical?

@MrKnowwun

9 жыл бұрын

michael cushing no - too much maintenance / support needed

Has the Duchess not been fully lined-out on purpose or is it mid-painting?

@MrKnowwun

9 жыл бұрын

thats the way it looks - it was one of the ways it looked during real service.

@class87srule

9 жыл бұрын

Oh right. I've been jaundiced by my Hornby-Dublo 3-rail model from when I was about 9...fully lined-out. I still think PC's look better in green (as do Jubs!)

nice vid

@MrKnowwun

9 жыл бұрын

Deltic SP thanks

Very good , looks like you made a good decision not going on the platform !

Bittern 27 Duchess 22, good match. 4 tries a piece.

Like two old horses whinneying at one another.

Nice one. A couple of errors, the date 24th isn't that meant to be the 22nd? Also Bitten was traveling from Euston to Chester...........Cheers, Nathan

@MrKnowwun

9 жыл бұрын

I wonder who would be the first to spot that Wilson, just checking you are paying attention.

@nathan83699

9 жыл бұрын

MrKnowwun Okay, I caught two of the 4 steamers at Crewe

I say the duchess won It's whistle is deep and old However bitterns is newer and louder

mr knowwun must be an electric lover uhhh i hope not poor chap if he is [ no affence if you are not ] dam good video though .love the wistle contest both won that contest.

Blowing safetyvalves? Thats a nono for a stoker.

7:37 dirty diesel

@harrymcandrew1447

Жыл бұрын

nothin wrong with 66s there the backbone of the freight really these days plus the horn tones it did i think it was paying its respect to bittern and duchess of Sutherland

As in every other department, it's nice to see the A4 getting the better of the Coronation in the whistling stakes ;-)

@Zrennif

7 жыл бұрын

+

@almostkentish3042

4 жыл бұрын

Except for power and reliability

@Volcano-Man

2 жыл бұрын

Gresley designed them fir the LNER - btw it means 'Lunatics, Nutters, Egoistic and Robbers!', where the line was almost flatter than a billiard table. Meanwhile Stanier designed the Coronations for LMS - Lots More Steam!, where the line has some rather steep gradients: Camden Bank, Lickey Incline, Grayling Bank, Shap and Beattock. When Gresley's 'duck' did the ton plus 25, it was pulling 8 coaches!, the Coronations produced something (from memory) like 35000 foot pounds of steam at the top of Shap or Beattock, something Gresley's never achieved; and had a lot of excess steam as they came over the summits. Oh and they pulled regularly 12 or more coaches unbanked over Shap and Beattock!

LMS vs. LNER! Who will win? XD

@james6234

6 жыл бұрын

hmm i think lner, but they would work good together, as in doubleheading

1:00

nice vid, shame the freight train was in the way

@MrKnowwun

9 жыл бұрын

swearingkevo Well yes and no. It rocked up ages before the Duchess and we all assumed it would be gone well before, but it added to the drama of the whole story.

Yet another classic case of MKU timing! You do know I have subscribed AT LONG LAST! See comment below "Flying Scotsman Best Whistle of 2016?"

Can somebody please explain why the duchess is green and not LMS Coulered but bittern is blue absolute dissgrace imo

@maxiepax01

6 жыл бұрын

It WAS LMS Black and Maroon before this. Then they moved onto this one. Bittern had been blue for AGES at this point.

id

Eight minutes? Should have been edited down to three. Cut out all the camera wandering.

@MrKnowwun

8 жыл бұрын

+Frank Cross 95% of the viewers of this clip disagree with you

@reubenc2005

8 жыл бұрын

+Frank Cross yeah!

@robinforrest7680

5 жыл бұрын

Frank Cross. You're a miserable git. I wish it had lasted twice as long. Brought tears to my eyes.

Jesus Christ man, all over the place with the camera

@MrKnowwun

4 жыл бұрын

I was standing on a pile of builders rubble clinging to a fence with a lens zoomed out trying to film about 800 yards of action, Still based on the wonderful videos you have posted I could learn a lot from you. Dickhead.,

4:39 is a very weird position for a whistle...

@harrymcandrew1447

Жыл бұрын

@novuu kami vron not really all 6 suviving A4s have there whistles infront of the funnels thats how they were desighned i think

I like malood ho it is verrey speed fast train

@althafrafianto

8 жыл бұрын

+한한건영 What?!

@fungustmaster

8 жыл бұрын

+NorthEasternHD epik enrish

@althafrafianto

8 жыл бұрын

wft are you talking about, you chav?!

get rid of that pathetic electric cantenary all of it let steam rule the network like it allways has done .