Birth of Islamic Pakistan and Political Conflict in Karachi - Two Pakistans - Shehzad Ghias

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Our new series, Two Pakistans, looks at the conflicts in Pakistan and uses Dr. Mohammad Waseem's book, "Political Conflict in Pakistan" to explain the fault lines in Pakistan.
Episode 1 looks at the use of the Islamic Identity as the identity of Pakistan at the birth of the nation, partition, colonialism and Political Conflict in Karachi.
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Chapters:
0:00 Introduction to TWO PAKISTANS
5:00 Conflict, Colonialism and the Birth of Pakistan
11:57 Otherization, Partition and Karachi
26:04 Use of Islamic Touch Politics by Parties and the Muslim League Movement
34:30 Karachi, Migration and the Sindhi-Mohajir Conflict
37:51 Elite Capture
46:00 How we lost Karachi's multiculturalism

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  • @Indus720
    @Indus720Ай бұрын

    So Pakistani Movement was UnIslamic and was not for Islam. And Muslim league leaders were campaigning for Secular state out of India 😂😂😂

  • @AKumar-co7oe

    @AKumar-co7oe

    Ай бұрын

    jai ho pakistani logic

  • @hawkingdawking4572

    @hawkingdawking4572

    Ай бұрын

    It was to escape the Hindu tyranny.

  • @Indus720

    @Indus720

    Ай бұрын

    @@hawkingdawking4572 So Muslims are allergic to democracy or ML leaders thought it was the way.

  • @ravisharma167

    @ravisharma167

    Ай бұрын

    Pakistan ended up with a tyranny operated by an axis of the Army, feudal landlords and extremist mullahs (Sunni variety)​@hawkingdawking4572

  • @Teja

    @Teja

    Ай бұрын

    @@hawkingdawking4572 hindu tyranny meanwhile founder of pakistan left his only daughtder and his entire famiily in india. even today jinnah entire descendants are indian. so called hindu tyranny lmaooo if hindus were tyrannical muslims would be 1% of india, like how hindus went from 25% of pakistan to < 1% in 2020

  • @ArunSingh-iw4wu
    @ArunSingh-iw4wuАй бұрын

    Mohammad also do otherization. What is Kafir??

  • @atul6585

    @atul6585

    Ай бұрын

    That’s right, otherization was never an issue for zororastrian, jews, jains etc with Hindus.. Aur inko har religion se problem hai. Thanks for your concern Paxtanis, we will be alright..

  • @sridevisantanu9617

    @sridevisantanu9617

    Ай бұрын

    Yes...this orherization is very much deep ingrained....kafirization.....problem is in the roots of a misconceptualized identity that we all are Arabs ....but in real converted Hindus...only remedy is come back to your roots..Ghar wapsi

  • @4yesha.04

    @4yesha.04

    Ай бұрын

    reference?

  • @ArunSingh-iw4wu

    @ArunSingh-iw4wu

    Ай бұрын

    @@4yesha.04 Read Quran. It is full of of otherization of non Muslim what it termed Kaffir.

  • @4yesha.04

    @4yesha.04

    Ай бұрын

    @@ArunSingh-iw4wu i have.. didn't find any except for verses against those "kafirs" who wronged Muslims or particular instances, so again reference?

  • @zackjeer
    @zackjeerАй бұрын

    2002 Gujrat riot were RIOTS, meaning clash between 2 communities, by calling it a genocide (or) putting it in that bracket is being intellectually dishonest of the highest order, spreading fake narrative without making an attempt to learn facts. The instigation was from Ganchi muslims by burning the train, where karsevaks were burnt alive, what happened was a retaliation If u want to call genocide, Check "noakhali massacre" , "mopalah massacre" , "kashmiri hindus genocide" Make an attempt to be honest Besides "otherization" is inherent in Islam

  • @ankush-89

    @ankush-89

    Ай бұрын

    Not a single pakistani ever tell the complete truth - only victim play - like they do in kashmir , gaza , etc

  • @Nat-Con

    @Nat-Con

    Ай бұрын

    ok nerd

  • @memanoj

    @memanoj

    Ай бұрын

    They can never understand...they just don't have that..don't waste your energy

  • @girlfrombookland

    @girlfrombookland

    Ай бұрын

    You proven yourself by writing long paragraph. It’s a well established fact now that the train event wasn’t done by any Muslim or community. That was a fake news and to instigate hate. Please check your facts 😊

  • @RameshUttapa

    @RameshUttapa

    24 күн бұрын

    @@girlfrombookland WELL ESTABLISHED?? When the Courts after long hearing found many of them guilty and handed punishments

  • @stewie__69
    @stewie__69Ай бұрын

    "Agar Pakistan islamic mission pursue nahi karega toh kya reh jaayega ? Pakistan toh India reh jaayega". This sentiment was shared with me by my grandfather while recounting our family's migration from Pakistan to India, and it resonates deeply.

  • @ThePakistanExperience

    @ThePakistanExperience

    Ай бұрын

    “ General Zia expressed it succinctly: if Turkey or Egypt did no project Islam, they would remain Turkey and Egypt. But if Paliste did not pursue Islam aggressively, it would become part of India again This fear became part of the national psyche.” Page 24, Political Conflict in Pakistan Your anecdote is exactly what he meant by saying this fear became the national psyche

  • @anshupandit4490

    @anshupandit4490

    Ай бұрын

    Jaise bangladesh hai waise hojayega na bhai

  • @hawkingdawking4572

    @hawkingdawking4572

    Ай бұрын

    @@ThePakistanExperience You forgot the naked fact that Turkey and Palestine were created more or less by partition based on religion. Ottoman empire was split and various countries were formed based on identities of 'nationhood', religion, language or culture. India was a mini empire or a dominion created as part of the British empire. Pakistan's case is unique in the fact that they abandoned their claim to being actual Indians ( Indus river based) for a country based on a brand-new name.

  • @ahmedshaharyarejaz9886

    @ahmedshaharyarejaz9886

    Ай бұрын

    ​@hawkingdawking4572 The most popular Indian party BJP has publicly via Modi declared Muslims to be Infiltrators "Ghus-bethiye" in India and most of media has doubled down on his remarks . For us muslims of Pakistan, there is no going back to India or Indian-ness, BJP itself is declaring that there muslim is not part of Indian nation. Its done.

  • @goodsong_views

    @goodsong_views

    Ай бұрын

    @@hawkingdawking4572 haha, it wasn't just about the river, but about the culture, people and civilisation living beyond it. Himalayas on the other side protect India, crossing Indus was the only land route to this land. America was found looking for India. India was a collective foreign name for the peninsula, alo whatever you say, Indians had a name unifying this whole place all this time. I mean the world's longest poem written ages ago has a name for this region and it clearly states places all the way from Anga(assam) and Manipur to Kandahar(Gandari) to the southern tips going to Lanka. There were clear unifying aspects between people within the subcontinent and aspects separating them from people outside this peninsula / subcontinent. Sounds like a nation to me.

  • @SouthindianNarendra
    @SouthindianNarendraАй бұрын

    1).u r feeling for Gaza, we Indians are feeling bad for Pakistan sponsored termism from 1947 to till now, 2). why Hamas started the war why u r not talking on that 3), what about hostage? 4). if Modi wins again it is RSS propaganda but is is people who voted them. 5)why all Islam nations doesn't have human and women rights & no democracy and u r talking about BJP in India 6).first clean your Pakistan then advice to others. 7).why Palestine people not getting any support from rich Islam nations.

  • @johncapron6010

    @johncapron6010

    Ай бұрын

    You're a grown man acting like a child. Get help, if you try justifying the killing of tens of thousands of men, women, and children is justified. If you had children, which in sure you do because you're a grown man, you know the pain of losing your child. Imagine defending the oppressors rather than the oppressed. Shame on you.

  • @shaffirm9602

    @shaffirm9602

    Ай бұрын

    U r an indian ur opinions doesn't matter . Focus on ur own country

  • @harikrishnanr1971

    @harikrishnanr1971

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@shaffirm9602 That's true it doesn't matter, but your leaders blame our leaders for their incompetence. We don't blame your leaders here for our incompetence. We blame you only when there's cross border terrorism.

  • @hawkingdawking4572

    @hawkingdawking4572

    Ай бұрын

    You didn't feel much about the Pak sponsored terrorism until Bharat regime name it as such in the international platforms. Kashmir was a Hindu colonial project which was boosted by propaganda.

  • @zackjeer

    @zackjeer

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@hawkingdawking4572 I am presuming that you are being sarcastic, if not, pls share what strain are u smoking

  • @talalali5149
    @talalali5149Ай бұрын

    Really loved this type of content from you Shahzad really appreciated!!!!!! Looking forward to more episodes of this series 🙌❤️🙌

  • @ThePakistanExperience

    @ThePakistanExperience

    Ай бұрын

    ❤️

  • @dharmeshparikh7837
    @dharmeshparikh7837Ай бұрын

    You can't call genocide by technical definition in Palestine because even 1971 Bangladesh casualties were not called genocide. For genocide by definition, you need to have a certain percentage of the population. In Palestine, certainly what is happening is extremely unfortunate, but you can't call simply as Genocide like Jews Genocide in Germany. Because you need to have a certain population percentage. When Saudi allied forces' operations caused half a million casualties, it was still not called genocide despite no of casualties being 30 times more than Palestine. I know your emotional support for Palestine is quite visible, but don't use wrong terminology for casualties. By using wrong terminology, you are mixing it with actual real genocides like Armenian genocide or Jewish Genocide.

  • @ThePakistanExperience

    @ThePakistanExperience

    Ай бұрын

    Go through South Africa’s case at the ICJ

  • @ydgokhale1

    @ydgokhale1

    Ай бұрын

    Great point, Dharmesh

  • @bharatkapoor4062

    @bharatkapoor4062

    Ай бұрын

    1984 was also genocide with sikhs

  • @AKumar-co7oe

    @AKumar-co7oe

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@ThePakistanExperiencewill wait till you talk about azerbaijan's recent ethnic cleansing of Armenians, hypocrite

  • @raghavjha7150

    @raghavjha7150

    Ай бұрын

    ​Gujrat roits started by muslim by burning train of hindu pilligrims in godhra ​@@ThePakistanExperience

  • @zackjeer
    @zackjeerАй бұрын

    Seriously ?? Again ? Cases of Love Jihad --> perpetrators "peaceful commujity" Cases of stone pelting --> perpetrators "peaceful community" Acts of terror, bomb blasts --> ranging from cooker bombs, rameshwaram cafe blast, coimbatore bomb blast, list goes on and on --> perpetrators "peaceful community" Blocking of roads, damaging public property, in name of friday prayers --> perpetrators "peaceful community" Gathering and celebrating gangsters by attending his funeral in thousands --> peaceful communtiy Showing solidarity to child beheaders and enmass attendance for his funeral --> peaceful community The list goes on...after all the acts, if questioned and asked to be accountable --> playing victim card "peaceful community" I have to ask -- are you this disengenous in realty (or) truly submerged in ur echo chamber but calling out others with twisted moral compass ? Or is it just the case of being a Pakistani and hence proved ? Which is it ??

  • @harpalbedi2801
    @harpalbedi2801Ай бұрын

    Pakistani Education System best illustrated by the top Pakistani Journalist , Anchor and Broadcaster Hamid Mir for him Urban Naxal is Arab Nasal. God Bless

  • @-Neutron-Star

    @-Neutron-Star

    Ай бұрын

    Plus he was a big promoter of the “water-car”!!🤦

  • @SLLR4594

    @SLLR4594

    Ай бұрын

    😂

  • @shainpv

    @shainpv

    Ай бұрын

    ....they are used to pulling fast ones and getting away with it....their qu@id pulled the biggest one in 1947.

  • @rohitsinghania4943
    @rohitsinghania4943Ай бұрын

    Enlightenment is when you realise that the biggest exclusionary / otherization thing comes from the book you guys embibe 5 times a day. We are kafirs as per that book ! 😅

  • @hawkingdawking4572

    @hawkingdawking4572

    Ай бұрын

    Of course. You should feel happy about it just as you are happy with your 200 year old British-made Hindu religion.

  • @siddhugoldi

    @siddhugoldi

    Ай бұрын

    reference is a word like vajebul katal.... Who r u to decide vajebul katal for somebody.... Ur whole majhab stands on the base of otherisation.... If u follow religion other than Islam you have to pay jajiya for practicing ur religion.... Wtf is this.... Wajebul katal is like a joke in your society.... Gustakhe rasul ki ek hi saja... Sir tan se juda....

  • @raghavmaheshwari9577

    @raghavmaheshwari9577

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@hawkingdawking4572100gram atta received by isi 😂😂 Keep commenting, this ain't gonna stop India's growth story Currently 10x your GDP Soon will be 15x So keep crying

  • @bharatkapoor4062

    @bharatkapoor4062

    Ай бұрын

    bhakt h ye BJP k sab kush hote h jb Pakistan ko koi criticize krta h lekin India p bolo to bhakt pagl ho jayega

  • @ahmedshaharyarejaz9886

    @ahmedshaharyarejaz9886

    Ай бұрын

    Modi has himself declared that Indian Muslims are Infiltrators and "Ghus-bethiye" and all of BJP, political allies and allied media is supporting him. You have yourself finally otherised the Muslim openly as was inevitable. You have turned into us you fools 😂😂😂😂.

  • @Shva927
    @Shva927Ай бұрын

    As an answer to your question around 30:00 min- This is in answer to Congress manifesto of wealth redistribution, and subtle hints of minority politics This is also a reaction of center right which u guys forget that other side also exists and it watches u carefully, when u support something like oct 7 and oppose certain values and things.Keep on supporting hhamas and u will see a reaction around the world.Do brace yourself for what is coming.Cheers! There r about 20 million illegal migrants in India, with extreme majority being bangladeshi mostly muslims, who have changed demographic in certain constituency and don't represent Indian values. Overall this is a reaction to the appeasement politics that the other side plays. Indian value or u can say values inherently taught to hindus ( 85℅ population) r such that it sees everyone in fact every religion as equal so certain things cannot be changed.

  • @johncapron6010

    @johncapron6010

    Ай бұрын

    Still doesn't give him the right to make fun of our religion like the derogatory children remark.

  • @Shva927

    @Shva927

    Ай бұрын

    @@johncapron6010 Yaa, u r correct but this is politics, the opposition is trying to prove the relevance of Muslims as a votebank and he is challenging it by bringing the morale of the opposition, down. This reaction might also be in reaction to some regional politicians.

  • @muddi900

    @muddi900

    Ай бұрын

    Bhai kyun 10 rupay k liyay apna zameer baich rahay ho.

  • @rohand04

    @rohand04

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@muddi900 zameer ki baat Muslim nah hi kare tho sahi rahega.. if you believe that faith based identity is an issue then islam is an issue it has always had different rules and identification for Muslim and non Muslim..

  • @muddi900

    @muddi900

    Ай бұрын

    @@rohand04 Rs. 10 have been added to your account-IT Cell

  • @Sk-cr2bl
    @Sk-cr2blАй бұрын

    British se Decolonisation hone ke bad pakistan ka islamic colonisation ho gaya matlab - apani hi soch ke gulam ban gaya....🙏🙏🙏🙏

  • @bharatkapoor4062

    @bharatkapoor4062

    Ай бұрын

    bhakt h ye BJP k sab kush hote h jb Pakistan ko koi criticize krta h lekin India p bolo to bhakt pagl ho jayega

  • @Sk-cr2bl

    @Sk-cr2bl

    Ай бұрын

    @@bharatkapoor4062 nahi bro criticism harek ka hota hai.... BJP to Aaj power me hai kal har jayega to phir policy change ho jayega.....🧬🧬

  • @yetanotheropinion.843
    @yetanotheropinion.843Ай бұрын

    I stopped when you quoted Vir Das.

  • @bharatkapoor4062

    @bharatkapoor4062

    Ай бұрын

    Because you have became a bhakt you see only things from white and black

  • @bharatkapoor4062

    @bharatkapoor4062

    Ай бұрын

    When he will godi media you will get orgasm then

  • @abhi.ku2432

    @abhi.ku2432

    Ай бұрын

    When?????time lapse?

  • @nofilkhan6743
    @nofilkhan6743Ай бұрын

    Thank you for this. The impact of these videos will be monumental.

  • @ThePakistanExperience

    @ThePakistanExperience

    Ай бұрын

    🙌

  • @AlisalmanJivani
    @AlisalmanJivaniАй бұрын

    Thankyou for the recommendation

  • @ThePakistanExperience

    @ThePakistanExperience

    Ай бұрын

    🙌

  • @wattanwal
    @wattanwalАй бұрын

    بہترین 👍

  • @ThePakistanExperience

    @ThePakistanExperience

    Ай бұрын

    🙌

  • @jamshedfbc
    @jamshedfbcАй бұрын

    Tilak Devasher's Pakistan: Courting the Abyss published in 2016 is quite insightful.

  • @JAli-gy4wj
    @JAli-gy4wjАй бұрын

    Very well explanation!

  • @ThePakistanExperience

    @ThePakistanExperience

    Ай бұрын

    🙌

  • @Engineers2
    @Engineers2Ай бұрын

    Sheikhu the great….. wonderful initiative… excited for this series

  • @ThePakistanExperience

    @ThePakistanExperience

    Ай бұрын

    🙌

  • @samibabar9543
    @samibabar9543Ай бұрын

    Loving these series, the most engrossing podcast channel of Pakistan..

  • @ThePakistanExperience

    @ThePakistanExperience

    Ай бұрын

    🙌❤️

  • @ahaanmisra4892
    @ahaanmisra4892Ай бұрын

    Interesting and engrossing as usual!

  • @ThePakistanExperience

    @ThePakistanExperience

    Ай бұрын

    🙌

  • @ArtistrybyAnamikaSThakur
    @ArtistrybyAnamikaSThakurАй бұрын

    It's funny that I am saying it like this but when you compare the otherization of minorities by majority, you seem to forget that the majority in India are entirely different from the majority in Pakistan in societal values. We are continuously fighting our battles for equality within our communities and for other communities that are oppressed within themselves and we as a citizen of a democratic nation are encouraged to do so. From where I am looking at things I guess some religious communities are just built differently. The majority community in India is indeed. We have had a long battle of rectifying ourselves of our sins, we continue to do so each day simultaneously coexisting with 40 crore other communities that we know as our minorities and only a handful seem to have a problem in doing the same. There is this inherent exclusive mindset in some communities that makes it hard for them to coexist peacefully. In this case the otherization was done long-long back and it can't be undone now. As far as India is concerned, you'll need to read more than Romilla Thapar and NYTimes

  • @sakatango
    @sakatangoАй бұрын

    Love and respect from INDIA. ❤ a lesson for India

  • @alevelbio6529
    @alevelbio6529Ай бұрын

    Keep the good work coming

  • @ThePakistanExperience

    @ThePakistanExperience

    Ай бұрын

    🙌

  • @raghawabrahmjeet1980
    @raghawabrahmjeet1980Ай бұрын

    Love from Bihar , India. Your intelligent shows are very good

  • @mohammadafridi7873
    @mohammadafridi7873Ай бұрын

    The best narration , alfaaz ki adaayegi Bohat achi hi , Bohat clear cut samjha dia hi Excellent v log pesh Kia hi specially this one

  • @ThePakistanExperience

    @ThePakistanExperience

    Ай бұрын

    ❤️🙌

  • @drabdurrahmanabid7364
    @drabdurrahmanabid7364Ай бұрын

    Thanks Ghias ,

  • @ThePakistanExperience

    @ThePakistanExperience

    Ай бұрын

    🙌

  • @samdes678
    @samdes678Ай бұрын

    The thing that is missing from narrative about what the Indian PM said is that he was quoting Dr Singh and linking it to what Mr R Gandhi has been saying and hidden within its manifesto. The fight of Hindus in India is to be treated equally as the Christian and Muslim brethren. Congress gifted away acres of prime land in Delhi to Wakf board right before 2014 elections to get those minority votes. They also brought in a law that would prescute majority irrespective of perpetuators in case of riots. We also have draconian laws in Wakf which allow the minority to stake claims to any land they want and that decision can’t be challenged in courts! They recently claimed to a 1000 year old temple as Wakf owned property. They have at it now in Karnataka and Telangana where they have government. Indias problem were never the Muslims. It was the illegitimate children of British in Congress who always divided Indians.

  • @hawkingdawking4572

    @hawkingdawking4572

    Ай бұрын

    There was no 1000 year temple anywhere in northern India. It's a big fat lie.

  • @siddharthrana9617

    @siddharthrana9617

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@hawkingdawking4572the case was reported in Tamilnadu in the south of India

  • @muddi900

    @muddi900

    Ай бұрын

    Yaar yeh bata Kejriwal jail main kyun hai.

  • @hawkingdawking4572

    @hawkingdawking4572

    Ай бұрын

    @@siddharthrana9617 I am not aware of a such a case. 1000 year old temples are under central administration via archaeological survey of India. Fake victimhood propaganda of Hindus turned out to be lies anyway. Hindus are furious that Muslim Waqaf land is huge and they can't steal it by force. They are also angry about Christian lands in high price downtown areas in all the major cities. Various Hindu rallies are organised to grab them by stone pelting and subsequent 'court seizures'.

  • @ResearchReally

    @ResearchReally

    Ай бұрын

    @@muddi900are you that clueless about the liquor scam. Read about it.

  • @alihaider218
    @alihaider218Ай бұрын

    A great podcast 😊

  • @ThePakistanExperience

    @ThePakistanExperience

    Ай бұрын

    🙌

  • @savezshaikh9820
    @savezshaikh9820Ай бұрын

    excellent analysis ✌️👌

  • @ThePakistanExperience

    @ThePakistanExperience

    Ай бұрын

    🙌

  • @felinophile24
    @felinophile24Ай бұрын

    Excellent.

  • @ThePakistanExperience

    @ThePakistanExperience

    Ай бұрын

    🙌

  • @mehrmazulfaqar2816
    @mehrmazulfaqar2816Ай бұрын

    Brilliant ❤

  • @ThePakistanExperience

    @ThePakistanExperience

    Ай бұрын

    ❤️

  • @rahulsahani4543
    @rahulsahani4543Ай бұрын

    Nice video,, you left some points but overall it is great,, agree on most of the things

  • @ThePakistanExperience

    @ThePakistanExperience

    Ай бұрын

    🙌

  • @pitch3697
    @pitch3697Ай бұрын

    sir the book is very expensive in kindle format

  • @shanmukhappamuttagi5310
    @shanmukhappamuttagi5310Ай бұрын

    Don't compare violence of partition ,formation of Bangladesh with Gujrat roits. Same condition existed on both sides of borders, in Pakistan, Minority disappeared but in India Muslims doubled their population . Muslims of India donot wish to migrate to Pakistan. Millions of Bangladeshi illegally entered India.There is strict border fencing and guarding along Pakistan. Otherwise even Pakistanies would have illegally entered in India. So confine your discussion to your Great Pakistan, leave alone India to its own path

  • @nybhatti
    @nybhattiАй бұрын

    Good analysis

  • @ThePakistanExperience

    @ThePakistanExperience

    Ай бұрын

    🙌

  • @Sk-zw7bb
    @Sk-zw7bbАй бұрын

    Ask the Sindhi political elite that you are so quick to give a pass to what they have been doing for the last 2 decades in Sindh? 2 out of 3 children in rural Sindh suffer from stunting due to water contamination, no other province in Pakistan has this stat.

  • @NeutralJaanwar-cb4tn
    @NeutralJaanwar-cb4tnАй бұрын

    Everyone Be Ready For Nationwide Protesstt on 8th and 9th May !! 😲 Otherwise Army will take All our Cash and Property 😲

  • @vrk420
    @vrk420Ай бұрын

    I think Shehzad, you cannot say that there is discrimination of Muslims and cannot equate India with the experience of Pakistan or Israel . In India it is a backlash of the majority in view of perceived ( whether real or imagined) appeasement of minorities. You have Wakf that is independent, haj subsidies , civil law and special status to Muslims that that has given that backlash whereas the Hindu places of worship act places the Temples under state control etc. lease do some in depth research away from Islamic lens and learn why BJP that had 2 seats in the past came in power so fast. It is because of the errors of judgement in the Congress party that lead to rise of the Hindu right . Shah Bano case and the opening of ram mandir was the fault of the congress . How political parties exploited the tendency of Muslims to vote en block lead to appeasement. When this continued for 75 years then it lead to backlash by the majority community….it is a lazy analysis by western scholars and the left scholars. When India was mostly hindu , we had an exceptional tolerance . Parsis, Muslims and Jews and others were assimilated but not converted. They thrived for centuries before the British or even Mughals came . And just showing Modi’s speech without context is just as bad. This speech was in the context in reply to Manmohan Singh speech said explicitly said that Muslims had 1st dip on resources and this was said in an election cycle. I think it is duplicitous on the part of Muslim communities outside India when they demand liberal values when in minority like India , USA , etc. but when when in majority like Malaysia , Indonesia , Pakistan , Bangladesh , Turkey , middle east they demand that other communities follow Islamic values ( not necessarily sharia but values ) So it is Ok that Erdogan can convert a secular structure which was historically a church to a mosque but when Hindus demand that they be given what is rightfully their destroyed properties by Islamic invaders then they are communal and fascists . You seem to have a lot of sympathies for people in Palestine but I don't see protests for people killed in Yemen by the Saudis . I did not see mass protests by Muslims standing in protests for terror attacks,. No wonder the western world sympathies only run in left leaning educational institutions but no where else. In my opinion the ideal India is a country that Hindus and Muslims live like equals with no discrimination or appeasement and as equals in a country that is theirs and protections built in for the weakest sections of the societies irrespective of religion.

  • @manzoorahmedmemon4139
    @manzoorahmedmemon413922 күн бұрын

    Totally Agreed with you

  • @ThePakistanExperience

    @ThePakistanExperience

    22 күн бұрын

    🙌

  • @stukafluka9940
    @stukafluka9940Ай бұрын

    Post-partition governance in Pakistan was a continuation of the British East India Company's viceroy-like dictatorial mindset. The voice of the common man was always subjugated and central authority was perpetrated with seeds of democracy and decentralization never allowed to germinate. An oligarchical setup has always prevailed which has totally strangulated encouragement of new ideas and original thought resulting in depleted and stunted growth of the nation. The sooner rulers realize their mistakes and promote emergence of new ideas and original thought, progress and prosperity of Pakistan will always suffer. Pakistan Army needs to return to their barracks and take the back-seat for Pakistan to progress and prosper. It is as simple as that...

  • @ThePakistanExperience

    @ThePakistanExperience

    Ай бұрын

    Yes!

  • @kuku6116

    @kuku6116

    Ай бұрын

    I'm Brigadier in Pak Army, noted ur comments and reply

  • @Shva927

    @Shva927

    Ай бұрын

    No, u r wrong! The British did create certain problems but that r in minority(countable) some of them may loud. Even if u remove British from history, Pakistan would still remain as it is, even worse. Pakistan is the true inheritor of islamic rule of hindustan, every prblm arises from and runs exactly parallel to the problem of Delhi sultanat and mughal rule. Ex - the elite of Pakistan behaves and have mindset of that time. The power is divided between military, mullah and elite and vary in power in each time period. The superiority always existed in muslims and saw hindus as inferior at all time period, read every autobiography of any ruler. If there r 10 prblm in Pakistan then, 0.5 exist due to British.

  • @N_Patil80

    @N_Patil80

    Ай бұрын

    Don’t look for logic where there isn’t. Hijdon ki kabhi sena nahi hoti.

  • @johncapron6010

    @johncapron6010

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@Shva927 you're just using very anecdotal evidence and just want to say that Muslims are worse than Hindus. Muslims never saw Hindus as inferior. anyone who did, is not a Muslim. You're showing a Hindu bias here, and acting like the Hindus haven't carried out heavy oppression and persecution on the Muslims of Bengal, Punjab, etc during the rule of the british. Take your rose tinted goggles off. Grow up and actually think about your biases.

  • @GuzzarAwan
    @GuzzarAwanАй бұрын

    I will read this Book. Have added it in good reads

  • @zaheerzulfiqar1885
    @zaheerzulfiqar1885Ай бұрын

    You are creating the best history of the contemporary events of this ciuntry.

  • @ThePakistanExperience

    @ThePakistanExperience

    Ай бұрын

    🙌

  • @harmansekhon1995
    @harmansekhon1995Ай бұрын

    Brother please speak about the some Pakistani youtubers who are speaking day and night praising about false agenda of Narendra Modi in India and degrading Pakistani and bjp party cut those clips and misleading Indian voters..

  • @Straightforwardpk
    @StraightforwardpkАй бұрын

    Wow, what an podcast, love from occupied Kashmir

  • @skippper2345
    @skippper2345Ай бұрын

    Will purchase

  • @shivampatil23
    @shivampatil23Ай бұрын

    Hamid Mir & Geo news Effect 😂😂 Please read what PM Modi means by that, What he said, are the words of Congress Government Former PM Manmohan Singh. This is NOT hate, but a REALITY OF "MUSLIM APPEASEMENT" In India by INDIAN NATIONAL CONGRESS PARTY. Do some research before Spreading HATE Against India. Another day, the same guy, appeals for INDIA - PAKISTAN TRADE & Good relations HYPOCRISY KI BHI SEEMA HOTI HAI 😂😂😂

  • @SLLR4594

    @SLLR4594

    Ай бұрын

    Arab nasal hai bhai. Urban naxal kuch nahi hota😂

  • @shivampatil23

    @shivampatil23

    Ай бұрын

    @@SLLR4594 😂😂😂

  • @Engineers2
    @Engineers2Ай бұрын

    Recommended to All KZreadrs who don’t read books and make podcasts on Pakistan history and it’s issues. Like if you agree.

  • @rohand04
    @rohand04Ай бұрын

    33:52 and also buddy your all points are from a islamic lenses.. you are able to see and sympathies with the otherisation of Muslim be in India or west.. but can't see the otherisation of non Muslim in Islamic constitution.. be it Maldives who have clauses of Muslim in citizenship or multiple countries where minorities are in micro number.. then where are your minorities and what kind of phobia is that.. kafiron phobia. As i said I can't stand hypocrisy

  • @crickcrazy1x
    @crickcrazy1xАй бұрын

    Persian was language of elites durin Mughal era. Just like English nowadays. Urdu/Hindi always the language of common men.

  • @Dana-pv5hw
    @Dana-pv5hwАй бұрын

    Very welldone ucdid gd job MashaAllah ❤

  • @ThePakistanExperience

    @ThePakistanExperience

    Ай бұрын

    🙌

  • @sharath515
    @sharath515Ай бұрын

    Fantastic narration Shehzad. Rational and neutral. Seems like some of my compatriots are living in a parallel universe based on their comments 😁

  • @ThePakistanExperience

    @ThePakistanExperience

    Ай бұрын

    🙌

  • @Agnostic-1
    @Agnostic-1Ай бұрын

    Plz read properly about godhara train burning incident before 2002 riot & first Rawalpindi riot before partition all done by your community people first. Violence is not solution, I don't support it but something is wrong with this converted brainwashed people may be ideological religious superiority problem

  • @tnemeganam1

    @tnemeganam1

    Ай бұрын

    Ashoka killed his brothers and became Great.

  • @aajjaayyuk
    @aajjaayyukАй бұрын

    Modi was talking about Bangladeshi and Rohingya people from Mayanmar. There are more than 2-5 crore illegal foreign migrants in India. They have captured everything in our cities.

  • @jonas5490

    @jonas5490

    13 күн бұрын

    😂😂😂

  • @Mohammad_hammad
    @Mohammad_hammadАй бұрын

    Gem 💎

  • @ThePakistanExperience

    @ThePakistanExperience

    Ай бұрын

    🙌

  • @logstarful
    @logstarfulАй бұрын

    I really appreciate you for utilizing the term Indian subcontinent instead of the CIA's colloquial term of Southeast Asia

  • @nadim606
    @nadim606Ай бұрын

    100% Right

  • @malikkhan5910
    @malikkhan5910Ай бұрын

    Now a days i am reading the same book..he quoted that Pakistan is a migrant state

  • @ThePakistanExperience

    @ThePakistanExperience

    Ай бұрын

    Book is great right?

  • @malikkhan5910

    @malikkhan5910

    Ай бұрын

    @@ThePakistanExperience yes, but being a CSS aspirant I know that such real arguments are not appreciated in the css exam- means not for css students.

  • @vikas__patel24
    @vikas__patel24Ай бұрын

    India never had stability which we have right now in last 1000 years.. we were attacked by many western powers.. it is British policies helped us. We welcome them open heartedly when they came .. it was muslims who fought hard with them bcoz they were rulers.. we started learning English, took jobs of muslims in Bombay,Chennai, calcutta and slowly became trusted allied.. we educated in english education and then started political movement... It is one hell of thing intelligent Hindus did.. muslims never surrendered so in the end they were thrown out with stone aged mentality.. Hindus did reforms in religion, opened universities, secularised our population..

  • @ss-su9ob
    @ss-su9obАй бұрын

    what modi is talking about is what congress is trying to say and do when they come in power... This do not mean... it's happening... The folks, who are far off and just gets the news clips, do not know what the heck is happening in it's entirety and draw conclusion. PLease understand the whole background and make the judgement.

  • @syedshahzaibhaider9014
    @syedshahzaibhaider9014Ай бұрын

    Kafi detailed aur boht thought provoking bat thi sir but wohi purani bat Maslow's ki hierarchy

  • @ThePakistanExperience

    @ThePakistanExperience

    Ай бұрын

    🙌

  • @ThePakistanExperience

    @ThePakistanExperience

    Ай бұрын

    Nahee actually Maslow ki hierarchy of needs supersede karwa rahay hain na propaganda aur mass manipulation Kay tehad- you care more about nazriya e Pakistan than food for your family.

  • @syedshahzaibhaider9014

    @syedshahzaibhaider9014

    Ай бұрын

    Very true! But phir wohi bat hy k ye idea absorb Karne k liye bohot lamba arsa darkaar hy I guess because humary logon ko bohot different tangent per uljha dia gya hy.

  • @syedshahzaibhaider9014

    @syedshahzaibhaider9014

    Ай бұрын

    God bless ghias Bhai Ap jese log jab tak educate Karne k liye mojood hyn Kuch na Kuch ban he jay ga Pakistan Ka Insha Allah

  • @ThePakistanExperience

    @ThePakistanExperience

    Ай бұрын

    🙌

  • @nomadbanda9562
    @nomadbanda9562Ай бұрын

    00:48 well said bro❤

  • @ThePakistanExperience

    @ThePakistanExperience

    Ай бұрын

    ❤️

  • @dharamveersinghrawat8776
    @dharamveersinghrawat877622 күн бұрын

    In India, there is Constitution and Supreme court, Parliament and honest people we believe in. Dont worry about us. 😊

  • @SunilGupta-cs6oj
    @SunilGupta-cs6ojАй бұрын

    Read the book.... The book and your analysis is very good.👍🏻

  • @ThePakistanExperience

    @ThePakistanExperience

    Ай бұрын

    🙌

  • @AmitChallana-ge2rs
    @AmitChallana-ge2rsАй бұрын

    Speaking against "otherization" while using the word "kafir". Oh the irony...! Shehzad, blink twice if you are are aware of this hypocrisy but are too afraid to die by speaking against it. 😉

  • @Riccardocampagnieri
    @RiccardocampagnieriАй бұрын

    I always say it Shehzaad is one of the sanest voices today in the subcontinent. I might not agree with him on everything but that is just being human. I cannot debate his rational analysis and he always comes as genuine. As usual, Shehzaad I am your regular follower. And I do wish that you also discover India and help explain it in your podcasts and monologues as you do to Pakistan. I would love to know what you discover and learn. Namaskar.🙏🏽

  • @ThePakistanExperience

    @ThePakistanExperience

    Ай бұрын

    🙌❤️

  • @user-dv8sx3cn8z
    @user-dv8sx3cn8zАй бұрын

    You should invite Bilal Orfali, hes a scholar of sufism. And specially given the importance of sufism in history of Sindh, it will be great to see you to discuss it with him.

  • @guest7000in
    @guest7000inАй бұрын

    Quite informative your podcasts are. In India people are moving towards utube channels as TV channels are 90 percent one sided. It seems same is situation in Pakistan.

  • @tariqshafi1222
    @tariqshafi1222Ай бұрын

    Another Brilliant Episode. This is the real contribution through positive use of social media platforms to spread awareness.

  • @ThePakistanExperience

    @ThePakistanExperience

    Ай бұрын

    🙌❤️

  • @mt6611
    @mt6611Ай бұрын

    Good to spread knowledge, it is a real jihad to educate people thanks 🙏 Shezad Betta❤

  • @ThePakistanExperience

    @ThePakistanExperience

    Ай бұрын

    ❤️

  • @Mspeaches7947
    @Mspeaches7947Ай бұрын

    Ohh yes you are right! Only 1 community has been treated like royalty until now and finally the tables are turning. Don’t worry about India, we are doing just fine!!!

  • @ShaayantBanerjee
    @ShaayantBanerjeeАй бұрын

    Shehzad brother loads of love from Kolkata, India ❤ Bhai ek request thi ..... Why don't you come live and take Questions and have conversations and debates also .... My intent is for people to talk and converse and have contact like it happens in Black hole of Dr Hoodbhoy . I would be glad if you could start something like this be it on zoom or other streaming platform. Keep up the good work . Always an admirer.

  • @ThePakistanExperience

    @ThePakistanExperience

    Ай бұрын

    ❤️

  • @ThePakistanExperience

    @ThePakistanExperience

    Ай бұрын

    Will do boss

  • @sormish
    @sormishАй бұрын

    Always comes back to India any discussion. Why?? Makes the podcast discussion frivolous eventually and unnecessary. Why not stick to your own country’s issues? An unending query for such podcasts in both countries.

  • @jonas5490

    @jonas5490

    13 күн бұрын

    Mate is for views it's a bait to attract indian viewerrs ...end of the day it's all about money

  • @Shva927
    @Shva927Ай бұрын

    Its around 80 years since independence. That means around 4 whole generations. My question to u shehzad -till when will you blame the British? I mean what should the ideal blame time period be

  • @ThePakistanExperience

    @ThePakistanExperience

    Ай бұрын

    It is the continuation of the system that is being blamed, is video mai kahan British ko blame Kia? Muslim League aur Pakistan ki bureaucracy ka zikar hay, ab Pakistan ek post colonial society hay ye toh fact hay

  • @niyajee
    @niyajeeАй бұрын

    Pakistan ko India se compare karna bewkoofi hai coz Pakistan ke law Islamic Scriptures ke hissab se chalta hai. Hinduism mein atheist hona koi wajib ul katal nahi hai but Islam ke hissab se ye hai. Hinduism ka koi comparison nahi ban sakta Islam se. Main ek atheist hun. Mujhe koi neecha nahi dekhta India mein. Pakistan mein toh koi apne aap ko atheist bol bhi nahi sakta

  • @hawkingdawking4572

    @hawkingdawking4572

    Ай бұрын

    Hinduism is not even an actual religion. Majority of its adherents were forcefully made as Hindus for electoral majority. It doesn't have any clear code or social rules as it's a semi-traditional folk religion.

  • @salimsattar3906
    @salimsattar3906Ай бұрын

    Besides subsidies, a very large bureaucracy, and a very big army, serving Western doctrine, eats up big chunk from our annual budget.

  • @virendraprakashsingh3874
    @virendraprakashsingh3874Ай бұрын

    Why this book is not available in Amazon here in India

  • @hemalbhatt4055
    @hemalbhatt4055Ай бұрын

    Conditions inside pakistan seems very very similar to the Economic and political situation prevailing in France and Russia before French and Russian Revolution

  • @Sk-cr2bl
    @Sk-cr2blАй бұрын

    Musalman mulk banane ke chakkar me Arab and Turkish mulk bana diya gaya....🤣🤣😂😂🤣

  • @hawkingdawking4572

    @hawkingdawking4572

    Ай бұрын

    Isn't that a good thing?

  • @siddhugoldi

    @siddhugoldi

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@hawkingdawking4572you can't change DNA.... Only by reading a book 😂😂😂😂😂

  • @hawkingdawking4572

    @hawkingdawking4572

    Ай бұрын

    @@siddhugoldi You never had any book until the foreigners gave you how to make them. Even then handful of people could actually read and write vast majority were forbidden to read and write anyway. Even your current state sponsored god was made popular by the pen and paper of the 16th century Mughal rule. Yes, I am talking about Rama charitha Manas.

  • @nightking8490

    @nightking8490

    Ай бұрын

    @@hawkingdawking4572 Allah was imagination of Muhammad, NOthing more than that. Not different from Stan lee creating Spiderman.

  • @shiwanandpandey5648

    @shiwanandpandey5648

    Ай бұрын

    Lol toh ramayan aur vedanfa tere abbu nhi likha tha @@hawkingdawking4572 aur surgery ki discovery bhi tera chughals nhi kiya hoga nalanda university mai voh sand pe likhte hai honge lagta hai kaha se late ho yeh madarssa gyan

  • @navneetLEKINdude
    @navneetLEKINdudeАй бұрын

    10:12 Kudos to your thoughts 💭 sir. A few years back after listening to many vlogs, I too had that thought. A thought process behind creating a separate state for Muslims was reason enough to axe state and provide them with exclusive opportunities to grow, or how they put it that time that Muslims cannot stay with Hindus (or under them) and won on that concept. Actually what educated elite of UP and CP wanted to state was Muslims cannot live beside any other community. That always kept me guessing as to how are Muslims of Pakistan (seekers of a separate state) are able to live in the west. Apologies if I sound condescending but that’s what Pakistanis give reasons for partition to everyone in North America or Europe. And some (westerners) question as to why then they are living and working besides non Pakistani and in a foreign land; there comes that awkward smile. But thanks for thinking and explaining. I hope sanity prevails in India as well given the political crisis going on Thanks 🙏

  • @ThePakistanExperience

    @ThePakistanExperience

    Ай бұрын

    🙌

  • @sohailnasir3087
    @sohailnasir3087Ай бұрын

    Same shirt from Natalia, tabish podcast

  • @ThePakistanExperience

    @ThePakistanExperience

    Ай бұрын

    Time to buy new shirts 😂 wohi repeat horaheen hain

  • @wa8754
    @wa8754Ай бұрын

    People who think they are wise are actually otherwise - this anchor fits the description

  • @shahbazali4982
    @shahbazali4982Ай бұрын

    isko parh Pakistan theek ho jaye ga?

  • @kevindsz
    @kevindszАй бұрын

    OMG he’s going on again about colonialism 🤦🏼‍♂️ Abdool, let me answer it for you and save your 50 minutes, the problem is Islam. Colonialism didn’t create the ideology behind your cult.

  • @pradoshbiswas
    @pradoshbiswas29 күн бұрын

    Great video as usual. Yours is one of the few rational voices out of Pakistan, who aren't afraid of calling out faults in Pakistan's policy or conduct I have a query about the history being taught in schools in Pakistan. Are Pakistani school kids taught that India & Pakistan got independence from British rule on account of the Congress, Subhash Chandra Bose's INA and the many other revolutionaries who fought the British Raj in any way they could? Congress leaders drove the mass nonviolent movements, INA tried with full scale army and revolutionaries like Bhagat Singh, Azad etc used guerilla warfare. And they paid a heavy price - Congress leaders spent decades in jail, INA was defeated and revolutionaries were tortured and then killed. However the Muslim League, under Jinnah's leadership, never fought for independence, nor did any ML leader spend any significant time in jail. All they did was demand outsize political power in undivided India, and barring that, a separate homeland for Muslims (when the British were ready to Ieave) Is "how Pakistan achieved independence from Britain" taught in schools?

  • @cat_logue
    @cat_logueАй бұрын

    It's not India syndrome... it's a calling of roots, culture, tradition... Why still Indian also feel connected with Pakistan? .... Because ones you were our people...once we live together 💓..we have celebrated festivals together.... Politics had used religion for the purpose of divide & idea of Pakistan is based on the idea of hatred... I always have empathy for the victims of partition but also have a agger for sapratist.... Indian politics & Pakistani politics are not same. Bjp have never said Muslim are not part of India. Even in lots of places BJP won election because of Muslim community support... But we never appreciate sepretist ideology of religious extremism.

  • @yetanotheropinion.843
    @yetanotheropinion.843Ай бұрын

    29:11 one thing that Pakistanis do not get that, ‘Hindu’ has got nothing to do with religion. It’s a cultural term. You could be practising Muslim but still be Hindu. We draw our identify from our land, a concept that is totally alien for you.

  • @kishorepanigrahi9452
    @kishorepanigrahi9452Ай бұрын

    2002 Gujrati roits was outcome of attacks on car sewak. India never told only hindu will live here. That is why muslim thrievr in India and no hindu in Pakistan.

  • @saifsamo9750
    @saifsamo9750Ай бұрын

    Karachi will be peaceful again once it becomes Sindhi Majority like it used to be before 1947. The Paanwalas have gifted this Ganga Jamuni tehzeeb of riots & crimes , native to their ancestral land UP & Bihar, to this beautiful Sindhi city !!!

  • @hasanimtiaz8757

    @hasanimtiaz8757

    Ай бұрын

    Listen Man! you''ve the governemnt it means you're in Majority. Then why you're consistently failing? Because you don't know how to run. The migrants taught you how to be respectful and civilized. You were illiterate! they taught how to run the bureacracy. And now, still you're trying to conqure the city for your own filthy business. Applogise for the offensive language but it is what it is.

  • @ahmedshaharyarejaz9886

    @ahmedshaharyarejaz9886

    Ай бұрын

    Samo Jee go ask Nazim Jokhio's grave about the wonderfully peaceful and humane culture of Sindh. Go inquire from the babies infected with Aids in Ratto Dero about how honest Sindh is. Go inquire from the pet Daku s of the Feudals just how Lawful and Orderly they keep the countryside and the peasants. Ask the Villagers whose lands the Waderas deliberately flooded by breaking the levies in monsoon, just how generous Sindh's leaders are. Go ask the Thari's how it felt, to see Sindhi leaders feast at the edge of their desert as the Tharparkaris died of famine, ask them to show you the famed Sindhi generosity Your boasts of Sindhi peaceful culture are just words. You are at best no better then your "Paanwallah" neighbours, at worst you are hypocrites and villains of the lowest rank. All that shall happen to Karachi if it is Sindhi majority, is more suffering of Sindhis, by Sindhis.

  • @ksaeed1000
    @ksaeed1000Ай бұрын

    Non-issues that are totally irrelevant are being discussed.

  • @donbrad6011
    @donbrad6011Ай бұрын

    To compare the states, compare percentage of minorities in both countries in 1947 vs 2024. That will say a lot about how tolerant society is.

  • @DL-DOMINAR
    @DL-DOMINARАй бұрын

    Shehzad, have you been reading Karl Marx or Lenin lately? Jokes aside, in today's world of books losing relevance, thanks for the indebt "book summary". Brilliant analysis and your personal views too. Just out of curiosity, how many 'likes' would this particular podcast generate in your home turf? I am sure from your Punjab, the land of my ancestors, it would be negligible. Funtastic, your effort and brilliance. Keep it up! All the best!!

  • @ThePakistanExperience

    @ThePakistanExperience

    Ай бұрын

    Nahee but pehley parha hua hay toh Thora world view shape hogaya hay us terhan. Thank you!!

  • @DL-DOMINAR

    @DL-DOMINAR

    Ай бұрын

    ​That was just a passing reference. In our times both Karl Mark and Lenin were must read in the university. And the endless debates which would follow with tea and cigarettes. That was then. I am sure the current generation including you have a different view point now. That aside, your podcasts are very informative . And thank you for interspersing your Urdu with English that makes it easy for many of us who are not native Urdu speakers.​@@ThePakistanExperience

  • @ThePakistanExperience

    @ThePakistanExperience

    Ай бұрын

    🙌

  • @parag-xu4sp
    @parag-xu4spАй бұрын

    were they leaving in peace under sharia and zimma ?

  • @RajWilAdi
    @RajWilAdiАй бұрын

    Otherisation is happening in India too. Unfortunately. But loved the analysis.

  • @thereflection
    @thereflectionАй бұрын

    The land of ancient India have always been a shelter for downtrodden and very giving! So, everyone who violated it paid for it dearly from mohd bin kasim to mohd jinna, from ahmadi Muslims to Bengali Muslims!

  • @sukhjindersingh4446
    @sukhjindersingh4446Ай бұрын

    Bhaijaan mai India se hi dekh raha hu par khush nhi ho Raha kyuki Jo future mai hua aur jo aaj ho raha hai India aur Pakistan mai koi na too khush hone wali baat hai na hi fakr karne wali 🙏

  • @jaiparkash498
    @jaiparkash498Ай бұрын

    The point you should mentioned at 21:03, people have worked their way out like "Perween Rahman" but everyone know what happened to her. Water mafia caused her death

  • @samdes678
    @samdes678Ай бұрын

    Pakistan’s slide is reflected in fortunes of Karachi. At freedom the city was vibrant, prosperous and progressive. So much that Singapore was modeled after it. You could argue the Dec line started with flight of Hindus due to Hindu being first “Others “. Pakistan in order to reinvent needs to let go down the current religio-military construct. Question is about willingness.

  • @navindudhe
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    28:44 Shahzad bhai, mai India se hu. Aapne jo Indian politicians k videos clips dikhaye...wo sab siyasat/politics hai yaar. Humko bilkul majja nahi aata Pakistan k problems sun kar. Muze to lagta hai general public, India k ho ya Pakistan k...hum sab same hai aur similar problems face karte hai.

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