If you have any other questions, ask away! Thanks for watching.

@paulbrown6219

2 жыл бұрын

I was considering this set up but curious if it would tow any differently and what a 2" lift will do to my gas mileage? Thanks for the video

@TRUTHproJects

2 жыл бұрын

My gas mileage has been roughly 16 mpg in the city and 19 mpg for highway. Most of the reason for loss of fuel economy is because of my larger, heavier tires. As far as towing, because my truck is level now, towing gives you a slight "Cali Squat". I don't tow too much so it's not a problem. That being said, I plan on upgrading my leaf springs in the rear just so I can have 300-500 lbs in the bed without seeing some squat. Hope this helps.

Did this kit with bilstein UCAs and a deaver mini pack on my tundra by myself, took about 10 or 11 hours for someone relatively inexperienced. Had the distributor I bought the shocks from assemble the front coil overs for me and it was worth every penny. Overall very happy with the kit

Warning: this is a gateway drug. I replaced my tired factory 13 F-150 suspension with this setup. I am very happy with it, the biggest compliment came from my wife when she said "It's like it just floats over bumps". Excellent value, I don't think you can beat the performance for the money. My only complaint are the rear shocks. They are pretty good, especially on road but they have a hard time with washboard dirt roads. Now I want to upgrade the shocks in all my vehicles

I have the same truck and am looking into getting new suspension on it. Thanks for taking the time to make this video. Great detailed video

I saw the Pioneer Powerlifting hat and instantly knew you were a man who appreciates quality

I have this on my 5th gen 4Runner with icon rear spring and Delta joints. It's amazing. I wanted that stability on longer drives, not the desert racing ability of Fox or a King.

Thanks for the honest comments. I've been struggling with that to do on my 2019 f140 4wd that is 95% hwy/town driving though the concrete roads around here are often washboardy. I might stick w 5100s all around

Killer video man! Just ordered them for my Tacoma!

@TRUTHproJects

3 жыл бұрын

Nice! Thanks for watching! Have fun on the trails!

Good advice on the compressor.

I am putting the exact set up on my 2016 Tundra crewmax 4x4. May do an add a leaf pack in the rear as well

Thanks buddy great info, again what was the control arms you went with?

Thank you for pointing out the danger of the screw type spring compressor, those type of threaded spring compressors are sketchy to say the least. If someone wanted to diy and had a second vehicle, take the new spring and shock with your top hat to a shop with a real spring compressor, for probably less than 50$ they'll get the hard part done for you and it will be way safer. The springs in the kit are 500lb/in...that's a lot of force on the compressor.

I’m curious about the stiffer feel cause I only use my truck for pulling a 30 foot Jayco with with weight distribution hitch. As you know weight distribution puts more weight to the front of the truck. That’s getting me curious. But if I’m on a long trip, the my rear of my truck gets porpoise maybe from the rear shock fluid gets thinner. Now I’m thinking to get the upper control arm because my 2011 used to rub against the springs. Thanks for your info on these shocks 👊🏽

Just ordered the 6112s with 5160s and icon UCAs. Can’t wait!

Great video. I also have the 6112's as well with 5100's in the back and Rancho UCA's. Works great for a budget overland/trail riding solution to the factory shocks.

@nickhawes2523

11 ай бұрын

You recommend the 5100 rears or should I go with 5160 like homie

@RebelViking912

11 ай бұрын

@@nickhawes2523 if you have the money go for it! I mainly daily drive, just wanted capability for a weekend trip every now and again. I don't think the 5160's were available when I got the Stage 1 kit from Stage 3 motorsports and the 5100's in the rear is what was included with the 6112's. I bought the UCA's separately.

@nickhawes2523

11 ай бұрын

@@RebelViking912 for daily driving and the occasional offroad are the 5100 rears great?

@RebelViking912

11 ай бұрын

@@nickhawes2523 They're plenty good enough for me. I don't do rock crawling, just forest service roads and Wildlife management areas here in Georgia.

Quick question about the rear shocks? 5160? The top mounting point on my 2018 f150 seems a mm wider then the shock itself- so there’s a slight play side to side - I’ve torqued down to 66lbft- I could torque more and bend the mounting point a little so it squeezes tight - or is this normal? Company i purchased it from and they said “it’s probably ok” ….. still waiting on blistein to reply-- thanks

Doing this same setup on my 18 titan with 35s and dirt king ucas

I appreciate the video.. No BS to make the video longer.. thank you.. question if you had to do it again? Or buy other brands with adjustable compression and rebound, with the added price?

@TRUTHproJects

Жыл бұрын

I honestly would buy these again. This kit has been wonderful. That being said, if you have more room in your budget for adjustable shocks, then go for it. I'll eventually upgrade as well to something adjustable.

How close to stock comfort would it be if it wasn’t cranked all the way up so maybe like clip 3 or 4 1-1.2 lift?

Thanks, I'm considering this kit for my 2021 F150. I live in Arizona, and judging by the video so do you. My biggest consideration is how it tames washboard roads compared to stock without lowering tire pressure.

@TRUTHproJects

2 жыл бұрын

I am in arizona! I'll be honest, the roads out here, even with this kit, will be rough without lowering tire pressure. Depending on how fast you drive, your psi and how bad the road is. It's better than stock but if you have 40 psi in the tires it's still a rough ride. Hope that helps.

@zonacrs

2 жыл бұрын

@@TRUTHproJects Thanks Jordan, pretty much confirmed my experience. That's why I ordered my truck with 17" rims so I can run taller tires and air down a bit. Think Apache trail washboard. Strongly considering the 6112 strut assemblies set at 0 or .5" lift combined with a 1.5" spacer/puck on top so the spring pre-load isn't so stiff initially.

@PowerHungry485

2 жыл бұрын

@@zonacrs I actually had this same thought when I leveled my truck. But through my experience and further research, a linear rate spring will feel the same as far as stiffness weather you have it set at 0 preload, or 1", or 2" or whatever.

@zonacrs

2 жыл бұрын

@@PowerHungry485 Thank you. Really been on the fence on this issue and keep second guessing myself. My truck is a 2021 F150 of which kits are limited, so I have time to wait.

great video.

@TRUTHproJects

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks man!

Question, if you only plan on going an inch. And you’re staying roughly the same size tire would it still be necessary to upgrade UCA? Moderate off road trails here 2 times a month. Thanks in advance.

@TRUTHproJects

Жыл бұрын

In your case, I wouldn't upgrade the UCAs.

What website did you use to buy your 6112’s and UCA’s? I’m running Rough Country V2’s in the rear, but looking at the 6112’s for the front.

@TRUTHproJects

2 жыл бұрын

www.stage3motorsports.com/

I've been researching for quite a while and I'm having trouble finding advice on my setup. Maybe I can't find advice because my setup doesn't make sense/won't work. Anyway, here's my plan. 2015 F150 XLT FX4, Bilstein 5100s for the front to get the 2" lift, a 2" rear lift block because I want to keep the factory rake, Bilstein 5160s for the rear because they work with a 2" lift. 295/70R18 tires on factory Ford 18" rims. I'm hoping this is a sound plan, no rubbing, no trimming necessary. Hoping this is a decent off road setup.

Hey man I’m looking for a level but with the coil overs, i do like no off-roading all daily driving on roads, how is the comfort from stock is it bad? I was looking into the fox 2.0s but you get more for the price from these, can you rate out of 10 comfort from stock

@TRUTHproJects

2 жыл бұрын

I'd say these are comparable as far as on road comfort goes. If I were you, I'd look at some reviews of fox 2.0s simply because they have a reputation for being "softer" than competitors. They just use a different design in the shock which changes how they react. Look for "digresive vs linear" and you'll see what I mean. From what you describe, I'm betting you'll prefer fox 2.0s.

Yikes. Those spring compressors didn't look to happy lol. I see why you said it was sketchy. I need new rear springs for my 2011 f150. While I'm doing those I'll do the fronts as I need to change out the 4x4 actuators anyway. I'll probably go with the 5100. I just installed the roadmaster active suspension because I'll be towing a fairly heavy trailer and my truck squats like crazy.

@TRUTHproJects

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah they weren't happy at all! Lol

Hey Jordan, did you install the UCA’s with the stock wheels or did you wait after you put on the Icon’s?

@TRUTHproJects

3 жыл бұрын

I installed the UCAs right before I put on the new wheels. Went straight from the alignment shop to the tire shop!

@ryan_e7

3 жыл бұрын

@@TRUTHproJects got it, looking at Tuff Country’s website and there is a note saying they require aftermarket wheels with at least 5” backspacing. Just making sure, this puts my timeline back now hahahaha

@TRUTHproJects

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah I ordered my wheels and had them on hand that way I could do all of the work on the same weekend

I heard in your video that you replaced the UCA's Which ones did you go with? and I was told that unless you're going over 3 inches you didn't need to replace them? Just looking for further information...

@TRUTHproJects

2 жыл бұрын

You don't "need" to replace them. My main reason for going to aftermarket UCAs was that the new suspension would make contact with the factory uca at full droop. The UCAs are mostly to help retain factory geometry in the suspension when you raise up the front. Hope that helps!

@Jeremy5431

2 жыл бұрын

@@TRUTHproJects it does help. The folks at 4wp thought I was from another planet when I asked the question. II have a GMC Sierra that I want to build out a bit for overlanding. There isn’t much info out there so thank you!

JORDAN - Better late than never, but "Thanks" for providing your review and info on these parts. You've got a great build there! I've got a 2016 F150 looking to upgrade to the 6112/5160 kit also. Great Setup. My question is on your Tuff Country Upper Control Arms? Do you have any regrets going that direction due to budget or would you go that way again? Any other suggested options in that price range? Thanks, again ...MIKE

@TRUTHproJects

3 ай бұрын

No regrets. The parts have been great!

@michaelemert5208

3 ай бұрын

@@TRUTHproJects Thanks for the quick reply and letting me know. Much appreciated!

After installing the bilsteins, did you yave any problems with alignment and tire uneven tread wear?

@TRUTHproJects

2 жыл бұрын

Nope. Just fine for me!

You mention "settling in" after 5k miles or so. Has the feel changed at all since then? Is it pretty much the same after the settling in period?

@TRUTHproJects

3 жыл бұрын

I'd say no. They feel about the same at 10k miles as they did at 5k miles! Hope that helps.

@paulbreaux909

3 жыл бұрын

@@TRUTHproJects Absolutely, man. Thank you.

When did you decide to replace the UCA's ? Was it after the shock install and you noticed that they were making contact with the springs causing you to go back and change them later on ? I have the same truck, different color, and I want to use it the same way you are. Nothing serious off road but get it leveled also.

@TRUTHproJects

Жыл бұрын

I decided immediately after the install of the shocks. It was apparent from the beginning that the factory UCAs would contact the new springs, so I ordered aftermarket and then installed them a week or two later.

@jetboy770371

Жыл бұрын

@@TRUTHproJects Which UCA did you order and from where ? Did the dealer for your shocks point you to the new UCA. You needed more loop clearance for the larger spring rather than the ball joint hitting its limit in its cup. You would think that the big time sellers of shocks to truck owners would quickly find that certain trucks would require a new UCA with a shock kit.

Did you consider the fox 2.0’s? I heard from lots of people that the 6112’s are one of the softest levelling struts. I wanted the 5100’s but with covid I couldn’t get them up here. I settled with a 1.5” motofab spacer level for the meantime and it rides absolutely terrible.

@TRUTHproJects

3 жыл бұрын

I did consider fox 2.0's but ultimately decided on the bilsteins because of the great value. The bilsteins kit cost about $200 cheaper than fox's, plus I the remote reservoir in the rear with the bilsteins. Ultimately, I think the choice between fox's, bilsteins and icons really just comes down to money (atleast at this price point). I chose bilsteins 6112 and 5160 as my first upgrades because, in my opinion, they had the right amount of performance, features, value and good reviews to get my sale. No regrets at all. Hope that helps!

@TRUTHproJects

3 жыл бұрын

Also, the 6112s at the highest lift setting are stiffer than stock but are by no means a terrible ride. I wouldn't call them soft. Hope that helps.

@lauraandedgar

3 жыл бұрын

I have the fox 2.0s and they are really firm, i drove thru a couple washboard dirt roads and they feel bad. save your money and get the bilsteins

@stevenpigott3038

3 жыл бұрын

@@lauraandedgar +1 my fox 2.0s on my f150 bounce uncontrollably in the rear end on gravel roads/washboard dirt roads. Stiffer than hell and they have 4K miles on them. Looking at switching the rears to bilstein 5160s or another reservoir type rear.

@lauraandedgar

3 жыл бұрын

@@stevenpigott3038 thats what i did bro, the bilsteins 5160 ride good on both dirt and street so i highly recommend

I own a 2016 Ram Eco diesel with the factory auto air lift/level option. Will this kit/combination work well with my truck?

@TRUTHproJects

3 жыл бұрын

Honestly, I have no idea. I don't have any experience with that truck. Sorry I can't be more help!

I didn't see someone ask this but what is your wheel setup? Very well done F150!

@TRUTHproJects

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! The wheels are Icon Alphas in a 17x8.5. The tires are falken wildpeak AT3Ws in a 285/75/17. So roughly a 34x11.5 wheel setup. Love them.

Do the spacer leveling kits ride better on the road? As in less stiff

@TRUTHproJects

2 ай бұрын

Not sure. I've never had a spacer type or leveling kit. I'd imagine it's very similar to stock feel, though.

Jordan, it’s been 5 months since your last video, we would like to see an update! Hope all is well!

@TRUTHproJects

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Joseph! I have tons of footage and so many ideas with not enough time! Videos will resume. Just need the daily life to slow down a little bit! Haha

What tires did you get I been looking for the size you have but all the ones I find are 10 ply.... also what offset are your wheels? Thanks!!

@TRUTHproJects

3 жыл бұрын

6mm offset with aftermarket UCA's allowed me to clear 34x11.5 tires. Hope that helps!

@fx4guy

3 жыл бұрын

@@TRUTHproJects thanks alot !! So are yours also 10 ply rating? Also are they likely to rub if I don't replace UCAs

@TRUTHproJects

3 жыл бұрын

No problem. Yes my tires are 10 ply. As far as "will they rub", I can't say they won't because I don't know. All I can say is that mine don't rub with my current configuration. If you're worried about it, I'd just run a 33" tire and you should be good 👍

@fx4guy

3 жыл бұрын

Yea thanks man , I'm afraid of 33s looking "too small" your set up is exactly the look I'm going for !... is the 10 ply tire comfortable on road?

@TRUTHproJects

3 жыл бұрын

I honestly can't tell a difference in comfort. The main thing is that the suspension is stiffer because of the leveling kit. Hard to say if the 10 ply tire contributed a ton.

Do you still have this truck? Would love to send out some product for you to review

Not too great for me - one blew up in less than a year, and now I am expected to send (not pictures that I had already sent) but the actual piece of scrap metal and hope that I get a replacement in return. Courtesy of my back-and-forth shipping.

@TRUTHproJects

2 жыл бұрын

Sorry to hear that 😕

Check out the EBachs ?

It's been a few years now- how is this set up holding up? Are you still happy with it?

@TRUTHproJects

2 ай бұрын

Absolutely. Very happy.

@vicc6744

2 ай бұрын

@@TRUTHproJects Looks like the set up I'm looking for then- Thanks for your advice.

Hi do u have the part number of the 6112 for a 2021 Ford F-150 ?

@craigwhitwam6560

Жыл бұрын

Why would he have the part # for a diff year truck? Tf is wrong with people?

I Do some beach driving , do you think 6112 & 5160 would be ok it

@TRUTHproJects

2 жыл бұрын

I don't see why not!

Where did you order these from

@TRUTHproJects

3 жыл бұрын

Stage3motorsports.com

I just ordered these (stage two). If I cut my crash bars and did some trimming could I fit some 35’s? Thanks in advance

@TRUTHproJects

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah you can fit 35s if you're okay with cutting the crash bars. I'd definitely recommend swapping out to aftermarket wheels so that you can have the appropriate offset for those large tires. I have 34s and don't rub at all.

@nl4668

3 жыл бұрын

What offset are you running?

@TRUTHproJects

3 жыл бұрын

6mm offset with aftermarket UCA's allowed me to clear 34x11.5 tires. Hope that helps!

Just put these on my 2019 F150 with BFG KO2s 275/65 R20 and it didn't look like the factory UCA was hitting anything at full extension. Maybe I should look again. Any other comments on this?

@TRUTHproJects

2 жыл бұрын

Full extension would hit my coils without aftermarket UCAs. Glad yours clear!

@aca31comcastnet

2 жыл бұрын

@@TRUTHproJects I looked again and the knuckle almost hits, like 1/16 or less away. So the UCA you listed will move it further away? How much further?

@TRUTHproJects

2 жыл бұрын

That all depends in what you buy plus the actual ride height adjustment you landed on. I maxed mine out and with new UCAs, I still have .5" gap at full extension. Maxed out my camber bolts for the alignment but still well within specs. Hope that helps.

@aca31comcastnet

2 жыл бұрын

@@TRUTHproJects Thanks for the responses! I have the same setup at 2" lift. Currently almost touching at full sag so probably hit off road. I need to get it aligned but now thinking I better put new UCAs on before I have that done.

@TRUTHproJects

2 жыл бұрын

I would if you do go offroading frequently. Budget options are out there and it's good peace of mind if you're worried about damage. If you seldom go offroad, don't drive too hard and fast, then honestly you don't NEED new UCAs. But if you have some free time and a few bucks then why not get yourself that upgrade. Atleast that's how my brain works!

What size tires did you go with?

@TRUTHproJects

3 жыл бұрын

285/75/17

@jdsanch8278

3 жыл бұрын

@@TRUTHproJects any trimming needed?

@TRUTHproJects

3 жыл бұрын

No trimming at all.. I did change my wheels though. So that is something to consider.

@fx4guy

3 жыл бұрын

What tires did you get I been looking for the size you have but all the ones I find are 10 ply.... also what offset are your wheels? Thanks!!

Liked the video, l'm 59 yrs. old so not to be picky, but, maybe different background music, nice personality!

@busared06

3 жыл бұрын

Not to be picky but you're gonna be picky? Lol

@BaytownMan45

Жыл бұрын

Yep, the back ground music is weak.

Probably been touched on but the factory shocks are shit. At least upgrading to 5100 and pucks you should be good for day to day

Why is there no Radflo suspension reviews for f150s...like anywhere on the internet?? Thanks for the bilstein info!

@TRUTHproJects

3 жыл бұрын

I've never even heard of that! 🤔💭 haha

@jpow12

3 жыл бұрын

Haha apparently they’re one of the best quality. But there’s like no info about them anywhere

@TRUTHproJects

3 жыл бұрын

Interesting... I'll have to look into that!

@jpow12

3 жыл бұрын

Good luck. Honestly I think if you got them and made a KZread vid it would blow up. I can say with certainty there is not a KZread video in existence with radflos on a F-150 much less any review of them.

What is with the messed up voice not being in sync with the video?

@TRUTHproJects

2 жыл бұрын

Seems in sync on my end! Sorry if it's buggin out for you .

How is it for daily driver

@TRUTHproJects

Жыл бұрын

Excellent daily driver.

@themcalisters8257

Жыл бұрын

@@TRUTHproJects Awesome thank you! I’m looking into it for my ram

Damn 900 thats cheap.... my tacoma is going to be over 1200 and without a reservoir

@TRUTHproJects

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah! It's a really great value for sure!

@titirititiri6360

3 жыл бұрын

Toyota suspension is alway a lot more expensive, it’s a way better truck statistically and a lot more people use Toyota Tacoma’s for off roading then f150 lol 😂

The major difference between Fox and King vs Icon and Bilstein is that Fox and King are progressive and Icon and Bilstein are Digressive. Therefore, Bilsteins will feel different than Fox.

imo no one that knows off roading would dare go with 45 psi on a good day or leisure trail ride

@TRUTHproJects

Жыл бұрын

I've been off-roading my entire life. My point is that even at street pressure, the shocks perform well. Obviously using a lower tire pressure is better for off-roading performance, traction and comfort.

Poor mans shocks

No good for canadian winter!

@TRUTHproJects

2 жыл бұрын

Sorry to hear that!

😴

I have this Bilstein on my Tahoe ,, complete Garbage zero suspension

Lol brother this doesn't take two people. 😂 just say it's difficult if you don't know what you're doing

Bilstine not bilsteen.