Billy Corgan Interview - Charlie Rose - 1998

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  • @ToolFan68
    @ToolFan684 жыл бұрын

    Charlie: “How long can you do this?” WPC: “Maybe four or 5 more years” ....22 years later... selling out stadiums.

  • @cass2303

    @cass2303

    2 жыл бұрын

    I think he's a genius. True artist.

  • @RunOfTheHind

    @RunOfTheHind

    2 ай бұрын

    Aye. On the same never-ending nostalgia tour that everyone else is on. No-one's going to the gigs to hear the new stuff, lol.

  • @MrHubb1
    @MrHubb16 ай бұрын

    Adore is a great album. Shame has so much emotion in it and it's absolutely beautiful. Behold !The nightmare and Pug are also incredible songs. They are one of the greatest bands of all time.

  • @effetpapillon2411

    @effetpapillon2411

    5 ай бұрын

    Shame is one of their best songs, absolutely beautiful and touching

  • @AlongCameMary
    @AlongCameMary4 жыл бұрын

    What a brilliant interview. I began to cry when he speaks of feeling isolated. That's the #1 reason I connect so much to his music. I've felt the same most of my life. People really don't understand him who say he's a douche or arrogant. He's incredibly smart and down to earth.

  • @BlueisNotaWarmColour

    @BlueisNotaWarmColour

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah he came from the bottom and you can see how that resulted in his personality, which not everyone seems to get.

  • @benf1111

    @benf1111

    Жыл бұрын

    Same here...I always felt he put so much of his vulnerability into his music and hear him confirm that was really cool. And I am glad that he changed my perception of him in this interview because I had always gotten and arrogant douche vibe. I guess it's that I only saw one aspect of his Pisces. It's funny because now I'm seeing how much I have in common with him and am getting logical confirmation of why I connected with his music on an energetic level.

  • @antiochiaadtaurum3786

    @antiochiaadtaurum3786

    Жыл бұрын

    no, he's arrogant, very arrogant

  • @TheMovieReelWriter1005

    @TheMovieReelWriter1005

    4 ай бұрын

    @@antiochiaadtaurum3786 I disagree He's a Completely different person behind the curtain as you can see here very understanding and intelligent, open. He's A Different Character behind the Microphone though, that's where you may see a display of arrogance.

  • @antiochiaadtaurum3786

    @antiochiaadtaurum3786

    4 ай бұрын

    bollocks, a narc is a narc @@TheMovieReelWriter1005

  • @LizardKing1324
    @LizardKing13245 жыл бұрын

    Charlie rose is a great interviewer here

  • @Bulbagaba992
    @Bulbagaba9924 жыл бұрын

    Say all you may want about Billy but he is a musical genius. He was the driving force behind SP. Not to discount, James, Jimmy & D’Arcy but it was his vision and direction that spurred the band to success.

  • @Alex-hu4jh

    @Alex-hu4jh

    3 жыл бұрын

    exactly

  • @coryc1904

    @coryc1904

    3 жыл бұрын

    I think it's fair to discount them.

  • @wobbledog4085

    @wobbledog4085

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@coryc1904 not jimmy

  • @_permanence

    @_permanence

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yawn. Same old trope.

  • @mrhobs

    @mrhobs

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@coryc1904 LOL, savage. (But I don't necessarily disagree ha.)

  • @User-hv9jj
    @User-hv9jj5 жыл бұрын

    He looks and sounds so beautiful

  • @jetjacobwildandcrazyrandom1320

    @jetjacobwildandcrazyrandom1320

    5 жыл бұрын

    You think?

  • @jetjacobwildandcrazyrandom1320

    @jetjacobwildandcrazyrandom1320

    5 жыл бұрын

    Wow. I love smashing pumpkins soooko much more than the late 80s bands like I really hated GUNS and roses. I rather listen to led zepplin at that point in 1988 89. I hated skid row too. But I so would have listened to slayer. Metallic really sucked. I'm so happy for smashing pumpkins. Ha ha I ran out and bought the CD. In the mall in Texas.

  • @cullenbrownmusic

    @cullenbrownmusic

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@jetjacobwildandcrazyrandom1320 yes smashing pumkins is way better than them

  • @SeaHorseGypsy
    @SeaHorseGypsy4 жыл бұрын

    This is one of the best interviews with an artist I've ever seen

  • @Mindrex327
    @Mindrex3275 жыл бұрын

    Billy Corgan Has left a Legacy on this World, will inspire people beyond His generation.

  • @Nautilus1972

    @Nautilus1972

    5 жыл бұрын

    Did he die???

  • @sad_is_fiction

    @sad_is_fiction

    5 жыл бұрын

    Def me

  • @sad_is_fiction

    @sad_is_fiction

    5 жыл бұрын

    I'm 19

  • @xxB4J4BL4STxx

    @xxB4J4BL4STxx

    4 жыл бұрын

    Mindrex he’s not dead

  • @arm5080

    @arm5080

    4 жыл бұрын

    I’m grateful that I got to see them last year 3 hr set what a night

  • @hannahlampson2795
    @hannahlampson27954 жыл бұрын

    I was born in 1998 and my mother used this album for basically the soundtrack of my life along with all the others. She followed the tour bus around and bombarded him while leaving the bus and asked him to hold her baby. This band has had a major impact on me and my life, since i can remember. Such a smart man.

  • @coryc1904

    @coryc1904

    3 жыл бұрын

    I'm surprised he actually held you. I once asked him to sign my guitar and he refused and ridiculed me. I asked him to at least please just touch it and he just barely grazed the stock with the tip of his finger like he was God. I love him but he does treat fans like trash often.

  • @SSs-ch4ey

    @SSs-ch4ey

    2 жыл бұрын

    Lmaoooo your mom was crazy dude

  • @SHYKOOPA
    @SHYKOOPA4 жыл бұрын

    He was totally right about alternative rock becoming conservative and safe and general rock coming to an end as a social phenomenon. Awesome to see how accurate his position was.

  • @godzillasimpson8357

    @godzillasimpson8357

    2 жыл бұрын

    But bands like Cinderella, ratt poison are good too. Also Dokken ruled back before don discovered marlboros and scotch.

  • @godzillasimpson8357

    @godzillasimpson8357

    2 жыл бұрын

    And he forgets to mention kiss, Motley Crue, and AC/DC still sell out pretty good

  • @fatninjacatmatt

    @fatninjacatmatt

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@godzillasimpson8357 it’s not really about selling out well, it’s about having a real social impact to the point of having leverage on the industry as a whole.

  • @mrhobs

    @mrhobs

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@fatninjacatmatt That's right, and as an example, as cool as those bands he mentioned may (or may not) be, I bet 100 out of 100 people I ask on the street will not know Cinderella, Rat Poison, or Dokken. Rock is dead... although I think a modest comeback is on the horizon... starting a bit already... just seems like people are really getting into guitar on KZread lol.

  • @Garf2O

    @Garf2O

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@fatninjacatmatt and the industry figured out if you just have single pop artists and rappers theyre much easier to control, manipulate, and make a ton of $$$ that theyll never see that was harder to do with full bands

  • @jamesmyers2087
    @jamesmyers20875 жыл бұрын

    I hear and read so many negative comments about Corgan. I’m sure quite a bit of it stems from him not toeing the ideological progressive line. But whatever you think of his personal worldview, you cannot watch an interview like this and listen to him discuss this myriad of subjects without concluding that he is an intensively passionate, intelligent and reasoned person.

  • @bohemiandream6259

    @bohemiandream6259

    4 жыл бұрын

    Plus his worldview has been so misrepresented by the media. He’s always been a socially liberal person.

  • @thomasbeckley-forest1785

    @thomasbeckley-forest1785

    4 жыл бұрын

    Idk people have hated him since the 90s. They were just so ubiquitous at that time and he has a very idiosyncratic vocal style, not to mention that they were a very strange breed of pop band even then. If you believe the press his perfectionism and artistic ego drove his band apart, not to mention people just found his demeanor to be aloof and pretentious. I think those things about him are fascinating, but not everyone does. I think he is just a very distinctive person in ways that compel some and repel others. Some people will always be that way.

  • @benjicluff4153

    @benjicluff4153

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@thomasbeckley-forest1785 Well put.

  • @chasec9197

    @chasec9197

    3 жыл бұрын

    Of course he doesn't "tow" the progressive line, he's actually intelligent, not a numb skull!

  • @jamesmyers2087

    @jamesmyers2087

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@chasec9197 huh?

  • @larenzohayes4453
    @larenzohayes44532 жыл бұрын

    I was forever changed by the song "Disarm."

  • @Chevy-hw6lw
    @Chevy-hw6lw3 жыл бұрын

    I would be very interested in knowing billy Corgans IQ. When you listen to him speak , he is extraordinarily intelligent. He’s fascinating to listen to. He’s also very introspective, and that paired up with his exceedingly high ability to articulate himself just makes him , probably the most interesting person to listen to I’ve come across. He’s also very honest. Charlie Rose is a master interviewer too.

  • @AY-uf4oz

    @AY-uf4oz

    2 жыл бұрын

    I believe he has a very high IQ- MENSA level.

  • @blazingstar9638

    @blazingstar9638

    2 жыл бұрын

    He’s crazy well smarted himself too

  • @Georgeanne17

    @Georgeanne17

    Жыл бұрын

    I met him by chance and he is very complex, intelligent, open and interesting.

  • @runnersdialzero1244

    @runnersdialzero1244

    Жыл бұрын

    Billy entertaining the idea of Alex Jones and Donald Trump being taken seriously and his transphobia probably knocks his IQ down a couple dozen points or so.

  • @muzwot9603

    @muzwot9603

    Жыл бұрын

    He just speaks from the heart, nothing to do with IQ.

  • @kennytheclown3859
    @kennytheclown38594 жыл бұрын

    "The culture we're in we have no hero's."

  • @theo2z1z94
    @theo2z1z943 жыл бұрын

    Billy Corgan absolute humble Legend and Charlie Rose expert level interviewer

  • @threeminuteshate

    @threeminuteshate

    2 жыл бұрын

    I realize wish Charlie hadn’t fucked up like he did. Always enjoyed his long-form interviews.

  • @dudemandudebro938
    @dudemandudebro9385 жыл бұрын

    I miss the 90's

  • @Mrsteisag2
    @Mrsteisag24 жыл бұрын

    This is a classic interview

  • @monstergod888
    @monstergod8885 жыл бұрын

    Adore would be more accepted nowdays

  • @ejs93033

    @ejs93033

    5 жыл бұрын

    would be a hit now

  • @ryanmartin3248

    @ryanmartin3248

    4 жыл бұрын

    Absolutely

  • @Elligons

    @Elligons

    4 жыл бұрын

    He still sings it live.

  • @corycastleman6351

    @corycastleman6351

    4 жыл бұрын

    It still exists and is loved today

  • @pablo_ramone

    @pablo_ramone

    4 жыл бұрын

    wonderful album.. still don't get why it was not considered as good as the previous ones (later Machina and Machina II again, good material). This man has been continuously evolving in terms of his comprehension of music and his ways to compose lyrically and musically.

  • @gatsbyravens5243
    @gatsbyravens52432 жыл бұрын

    I was going to keep my mouth shut and just move on, but I know some people of the time or younger might miss the point of what Billy Corgan is saying. Having been a young music enthusiast at about 12 years old when I pick up my first smashing pumpkins CD, Mellon Collie and The Infinite Sadness emblem. I can say they were without a doubt hated and love at the same time , in the none cliche meaning. They were intricate and poetic to the point of overcomplicated for the general public that wanted easier catch choruses to sing along to. You had to live a life of actual struggle and not some fake rebellion of the 90s to understand and appreciate the Smashing Pumpkins. My parents got divorced in the 90s and the Smashing Pumpkins helped me through it and I understood Billy's songs more deeply for it. I still tear up when I hear tonight tonight song. Final Note: The Smashing Pumpkins, the most underappreciated band of the 90's. Thanks, Billy and the Smashing Pumpkins.........

  • @T2Tiberious
    @T2Tiberious Жыл бұрын

    In 1998....Billy says you can't be an alternative rock artist but for more than 4-5 years, and in 2023 here he and the Pumpkins present Atum, A Rock Opera in Three Parts, that rivals, to me, Melancholy and the Infinite Sadness. I am so glad his genius kept churning.....long may his artistry and contemplation continue....

  • @benf1111
    @benf1111 Жыл бұрын

    Man, great questions Charlie. I love how he would follow the conversation and let that dictate the next question instead of a preset list like most interviewers.

  • @el6178
    @el61785 жыл бұрын

    Rose is so versatile. He is toe tipping around interviewer to get the conversation deeper.

  • @el6178

    @el6178

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@SNAFU78 oops! Thank you

  • @juliejohnson3626
    @juliejohnson36265 жыл бұрын

    Billy doesn't have to be "nice". He is smart and good.

  • @danellae.perezschmieloz5958

    @danellae.perezschmieloz5958

    2 жыл бұрын

    yes

  • @AngelQuiroz
    @AngelQuiroz3 жыл бұрын

    He needs to bring that hat back. I always thought it was a sophisticated yet flashy look for a rocker

  • @juliejohnson3626
    @juliejohnson36265 жыл бұрын

    I love the album Adore

  • @deathkampdrone
    @deathkampdrone2 жыл бұрын

    Nice interview, haven't seen this before. Still, it's funny to hear Billy talk like this in 1998. Because omg was the worst yet to come. He couldn't tell, but he sat right there in the middle of THE best decade of music there has been, and ever will be. Oh man, take me back. The cowboy hat looks good on Billy, yet he does send out a handsome serial killer vibe in this clip xD

  • @felipecavalera8729
    @felipecavalera87293 жыл бұрын

    Adore was ahead of its time, it would done better in the early/mid 2000s. When adore came, everybody was still expecting loud riffs from rock alternative bands, its one of the reasons why nu metal got so popular by the end of the 90s. Billy was so right about alternative grunge bands or rock music in general, i loved the analogy “they basically threw away the keys of the car” .Today, in 2020, we know what happened in the industry in the last 20 years, rap, hip hop and pop didn’t feel guilty of being successful and took the opportunity to define the industry. I love the new album CYR it will be looked at in the future with a different perspective by their detractors just like adore. Its time for rock music to grow and stop living in the past. Its time for a new rock revolution in the next decade.

  • @Garf2O

    @Garf2O

    2 жыл бұрын

    It probably wont happen at all on a big mainstream level unless its just the industry plants that they pick out doing it

  • @louieo.blevinsmusic4197

    @louieo.blevinsmusic4197

    2 жыл бұрын

    There’s so many great sub genres now that rock music is dead. I guess there’s the Foo Fighters. Not my cup of tea but they exist

  • @destroyermaker

    @destroyermaker

    Жыл бұрын

    Eh I still don't like Adore

  • @destroyermaker

    @destroyermaker

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Taylor.Dude. It's like any other genre, there's good and bad

  • @felipecavalera8729

    @felipecavalera8729

    Жыл бұрын

    @@destroyermaker you are missing out

  • @dean8705
    @dean87053 жыл бұрын

    Seems so intelligent, and pretty interesting guy.

  • @ispankmymonkey555
    @ispankmymonkey555 Жыл бұрын

    Billy has always been a hero to me for some reason. He’s such a pure soul and one of my favorite people ever. Rock on, my friend 🤘🏻

  • @TheHSIHP
    @TheHSIHP3 жыл бұрын

    He was right on in this interview and putting out Adore when they did was an epic statement. Ahead of it's time.

  • @alukuhito

    @alukuhito

    Жыл бұрын

    Mellon Collie was also an epic statement, putting out a double album when nobody had seriously done that since the 70s in the era of stadium rock.

  • @nana1696
    @nana16965 жыл бұрын

    Adore billy x

  • @godofspacetime333
    @godofspacetime3334 жыл бұрын

    Amazing interview, good ol Charlie Rose. Just wish it was like an hour longer.

  • @TonyWalkerIsYourBestFriend
    @TonyWalkerIsYourBestFriend5 жыл бұрын

    Billy, just off of safari, came in to do a nice interview here.

  • @WoodenWizard
    @WoodenWizard2 жыл бұрын

    OK Computer came out in 1997, one year before this interview, and is the album that Billy is trying to describe that would end up changing the landscape of pop music, artistically and structurally. Radiohead took what grunge had started, what Billy finished, and took the music biz into the 21st C with their next 4 records. In 1998, Radiohead were the heroes that Billy talks about at the end.

  • @sleuth79

    @sleuth79

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah, he didn't have the full vision of what was to come, although he had the brilliant song Stand inside, he didn't achieve the next phase and transition into the unknown that Radiohead did and modest mouse and the great Sigur ross did post the indie rock era... he forever missed the boat... but that was his lexicon, and hes been tied up in ever since

  • @alukuhito

    @alukuhito

    Жыл бұрын

    There was no big transformation after OK Computer in rock music. It just sort of died out into the Emo scene, which was generally very poorly made music by whiners. Perhaps we should be blaming Radiohead for that. In fact, I would say their first album, Pablo Honey, was more influential than OK Computer. They literally sang about how anyone can play guitar. Yes, it was much simpler music than on OK Computer, but, again, OK Computer didn't have such an influence as to really change rock. Punk was a game changer. New Wave was a game changer. Alternative rock of the very late 80s and early 90s was a game changer. Not OK Computer. Not Radiohead. Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying Radiohead were bad. They were great.

  • @WoodenWizard

    @WoodenWizard

    Жыл бұрын

    @@alukuhito I said 'pop music', and Radiohead are a pop band IMO. Rock gave us Nickleback and Sleep and I'll take Dopesmoker anyday. don't mind my reply. stoked this comment has any traction at all.

  • @WoodenWizard

    @WoodenWizard

    Жыл бұрын

    @@alukuhito Radiohead are arguably the best band to survive and outlive the 90s' alt rock label.

  • @WoodenWizard

    @WoodenWizard

    Жыл бұрын

    @@alukuhito Radiohead can sing all they want about how anyone can play the guitar, but no one plays the guitar like Jonny Greenwood, a game changing player of the instrument, genres aside.

  • @pinds83
    @pinds834 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for posting this. I remember watching this back when it aired.

  • @jetjacobwildandcrazyrandom1320
    @jetjacobwildandcrazyrandom13205 жыл бұрын

    I was so in love with billy corgan then Wow

  • @silverfck

    @silverfck

    Жыл бұрын

    he was so fine in gish era and his 1994 hair

  • @dustenwilson
    @dustenwilson2 жыл бұрын

    Love this so much.

  • @CUPCAKESUGARPIE
    @CUPCAKESUGARPIE5 жыл бұрын

    Lookie there🙌♥️🙌 A musical genius & wonderful soul in a cowboy hat🙌🐴♥️🦋🙌

  • @dickkirkland
    @dickkirkland Жыл бұрын

    The new 33 podcast related to "Atum" shows Billy's positivity that was present back then and has continued to evolve to this day. There were a lot of critics and fans back then and now who don't agree about his or the band's direction always. As a superfan, I had no idea about his attitudes and was always led to believe that he was a very negative person. I've been lucky enough to say hey and get an autograph. He was always nice. The band members have mostly reunited and continues to thrive and change because they were never afraid to. Thank you for posting this! Very cool

  • @godofspacetime333
    @godofspacetime3332 жыл бұрын

    His argument about the alternative bands squandering their opportunity to change the game is interesting, and makes me realize that the figures in hip hop did not squander that same opportunity. They created their own labels, they built up other artists, they took control of their own careers, and shaped their own images and the culture as a whole, and now a quarter century later it is still the dominant form in popular music. It’s probably time for the next revolution, but they’ve gotten a lot more right than wrong. The major figures of hip hop in the 90s are millionaires and billionaires now with tremendous respect and power in the industry, and meanwhile “alternative” is basically meaningless, and the bands left from that era are nostalgia acts struggling to make a living. Billy Corgan recognized way back then that apathy isn’t cool and it certainly isn’t beneficial, but not many others in rock music felt the same way, and still to this day. It’s not cool to care, and cool is the name of the game, so aloof hipsters rule the game, but in the end they’re just ineffectual. Radiohead never feared sincerity (and also used their success to set their own rules) and they continue to have success. That old rock and roll attitude of not giving a shit is tired, postmodernism is dull, and eventually the rock and rollers will wake up to that.

  • @jetjacobwildandcrazyrandom1320
    @jetjacobwildandcrazyrandom13205 жыл бұрын

    Oh wow my son was born on 1995 and grew up listening to smashing pumpkins. So anything billy says should never ever be deleted. I want 2 protect him

  • @kennytheclown3859
    @kennytheclown38594 жыл бұрын

    He makes some solid points.

  • @tword7
    @tword72 жыл бұрын

    This is what a good journalist looks like.

  • @cazb877
    @cazb877 Жыл бұрын

    Love Billy, very intelligent and interesting guy and brilliant musician to boot 🖤

  • @kalebonham9902
    @kalebonham99025 ай бұрын

    Just discovered you today! I love your videos, and these might sound weird, but I like the shape of your teeth. They’re very aesthetically pleasing!

  • @skyenicolas7012
    @skyenicolas70124 жыл бұрын

    One of the best attempts to describe “Rock N’ Roll”.

  • @seanrosedotcom
    @seanrosedotcom Жыл бұрын

    This is so great.

  • @natalia6381
    @natalia63813 жыл бұрын

    I love the interview. Btw. I am a Pisces too and sure, very moody as well. I wish the 90ies came back. It was the best time of my life as a teenager.

  • @coryc1904

    @coryc1904

    3 жыл бұрын

    He's a right wing Man's Man.

  • @natalia6381

    @natalia6381

    3 жыл бұрын

    He’s a very talented musician, though.

  • @dean8705

    @dean8705

    3 жыл бұрын

    He's libertarian not right wing.

  • @natalia6381

    @natalia6381

    3 жыл бұрын

    I wouldn’t judge him based on his political ideas. These also may evolve with age. It is the music and the spiritual part that makes him so intriguing. I wish I could have these times back when all these rock bands played the wonderful music. I subscribe to the generation X.

  • @david22591
    @david225913 жыл бұрын

    Great interview

  • @studioredband2686
    @studioredband26862 жыл бұрын

    i love this one

  • @Pitt4825
    @Pitt48255 жыл бұрын

    charlie rose showing why he's a great interviewer

  • @coryc1904

    @coryc1904

    3 жыл бұрын

    Imagine having a ding dong.

  • @henrythegreatamerican8136
    @henrythegreatamerican81364 жыл бұрын

    Looking back on this interview, he was 100% right on rock music becoming finite and reaching a creative conclusion around 1995, 1996. I often said the time era from the LATE 1990's through 2010 created some of the worst rock music in history. I won't bother naming the bands here because they don't deserve more recognition.

  • @DrGalazkiewicz

    @DrGalazkiewicz

    4 жыл бұрын

    Agree, but has rock improved since 2010??

  • @incufish23

    @incufish23

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@DrGalazkiewicz Nothing like the early 90s but there are gems. Hip hop has the momentum and youth energy but hip hop try as it might cannot get out of its own ego and trappings. The venurbility, independence and intellengence that shines in the pumpkins and other great rock seems hard to find these days.

  • @TheAlibabatree

    @TheAlibabatree

    4 жыл бұрын

    The Mars Volta started in 2003.

  • @Acujeremy

    @Acujeremy

    3 жыл бұрын

    The 3 Evanescence albums and Blink 182's self titled album from 2003 are my favorite of the 21st Century.

  • @coryc1904

    @coryc1904

    3 жыл бұрын

    Bagstreeee boi

  • @kennytheclown3859
    @kennytheclown38594 жыл бұрын

    Have to appreciate his honesty, and critique.

  • @ericlitts9917
    @ericlitts99172 жыл бұрын

    He's right when he says that him and his peers didn't take the chance to change the business to the artists benefit. I think the business works really hard to contain the talent. Either with lawyers, narcotics, fame, or with silicon valley having more innovation distributing it than the musicians creating it.

  • @Motown222
    @Motown2225 жыл бұрын

    Ive seen a lot of BC interviews. Never thought Id see him here.

  • @coryc1904

    @coryc1904

    3 жыл бұрын

    Infowars style

  • @mattlamson240
    @mattlamson2404 жыл бұрын

    great interview

  • @marioahu5000
    @marioahu50003 жыл бұрын

    I love what he says about death. So true.

  • @AY-uf4oz
    @AY-uf4oz4 жыл бұрын

    He's a strange and fascinating man. Best songwriter since Roger Waters. Mellon Collie is probably the best and deepest album since The Wall. A lot of similarities in these albums and their creators. Both men were troubled and unhappy when they came up with their masterpieces, both value and emphasize personal integrity, and their themes of isolation and loss are quite similar as well.

  • @uncledarren9775

    @uncledarren9775

    3 жыл бұрын

    Nah Ok computer

  • @AY-uf4oz

    @AY-uf4oz

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@uncledarren9775 Certainly that's a very good album, but to me Mellon Collie is stronger.

  • @benjamindevlin4057

    @benjamindevlin4057

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@AY-uf4oz Mellon Collie's got a handful of skippable tracks, OKC has none except if you count fitter happier. In Utero by Nirvana is also better imo because each track is awesome and I'd say it definitely has more emotional depth than Mellon Collie. The shit in there is just extremely dark. Not knocking Mellon Collie because I love a lot of the songs on there but there are definitely better and deeper albums from the '90s. I just think it would've fared much better as a normal size album.

  • @Chevy-hw6lw

    @Chevy-hw6lw

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@benjamindevlin4057 you are so so wrong. And I’m a huge Nirvana and Radiohead fan. Mellon Collie is a masterpiece through and through. The songwriting and layering is top notch.

  • @benjamindevlin4057

    @benjamindevlin4057

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Chevy-hw6lw I really wish I liked it as much as other people do. Are there any key songs I’m missing? I feel like a lot of the hard rockers just feel like a rip-off brand of Zero. Here is no why and To Forgive are the two ones that aren’t singles that I absolutely love, are there any other hidden gems? I also just think both of Iha’s contributions just plain suck if I’m being blunt. I think there’s definitely a reason Corgan is so controlling.

  • @zakur0hako
    @zakur0hako Жыл бұрын

    "Positivity, money, compassion" - Billy Corgan 1998.

  • @jimmylipp3568
    @jimmylipp35685 жыл бұрын

    Inlove bill Madison

  • @amymuchko7106
    @amymuchko7106 Жыл бұрын

    Billy Corgan if you see this I would like to apologize to you profusely. Thank you for helping others.

  • @dietrich7500
    @dietrich75004 жыл бұрын

    really authentic

  • @U2BE79
    @U2BE795 жыл бұрын

    Rock wasn't dead. Even "alternative" didn't die. It evolved. "Alternative" was transformed by Radiohead in ways no one could possibly imagine.

  • @vitron01

    @vitron01

    4 жыл бұрын

    Wow's man. Heavy dude

  • @bohemiandream6259

    @bohemiandream6259

    4 жыл бұрын

    As Billy once said, “Radiohead are one of the best if not the best band in the world.” Radiohead & Smashing Pumpkins are 2 of my all time favs!!

  • @CarcPazu

    @CarcPazu

    3 жыл бұрын

    The trajectory that Elvis, the Beatles, and Chuck Berry took getting music to a certain extremity, then rock showing up pushing the envelope even more, then heavy metal. That's when people called rock dead, meaning dead to them, or commercially. Rock isn't dead at all, it just kept going its natural evolution into extremity. Into extreme metal, Death Metal, Black Metal, Grindcore, and Doom. The Rock train has never stopped, it's just that most people left the train when it started to go too fast and the track became too bumpy for them. Real Rock isn't dead, it's just too extreme for the average listener.

  • @coryc1904

    @coryc1904

    3 жыл бұрын

    It's literally not alternative anymore though. It's just pop. It's popular. Mainstream. Alternative means different from the mainstream. Radiohead literally has become mainstream.

  • @CarcPazu

    @CarcPazu

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@coryc1904 With that logic Brutal Death Metal would be called Pop Music if it became mainstream?

  • @nicolorallo1729
    @nicolorallo17294 жыл бұрын

    It seemed like they were not on the same page during this interview. Mainly, Ross didn’t understand the direction Billy was going. However, it was nice to hear Billy express himself like that.

  • @kennytheclown3859
    @kennytheclown38594 жыл бұрын

    I agree about the media not taking the music seriously anymore, and being more concerned about who you are dating. That might be a reflection of why the music has stagnated.

  • @godzillasimpson8357

    @godzillasimpson8357

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah and computers ruin every damn thing. Cars, music, you name it. Computers ruin everything. Takes the fun out of everything

  • @theosophicalwanderings7696
    @theosophicalwanderings7696 Жыл бұрын

    Not really a fan of Smashing Pumpkins but am definitely a fan of Billy Corgan. Love his honesty.

  • @darrin2053
    @darrin20534 жыл бұрын

    General state of negativity.......... I believe this feeling goes through all the generations, feeling the last generation had it better. Every generation is going to go through difficulties, as time goes on, the problems seem to be more frivolous.

  • @wobbledog4085
    @wobbledog40852 жыл бұрын

    His ego is wounded here. I love him

  • @juliejohnson3626
    @juliejohnson36265 жыл бұрын

    I care about politics. I care about humanity and the environment. I don't worship Billy but I respect him and I love his messages

  • @behanner

    @behanner

    5 жыл бұрын

    The interview is from 1998

  • @51MontyPython

    @51MontyPython

    4 жыл бұрын

    Believe me, it was better when the youth _didn't_ care about politics, as strange as that is to say.

  • @stevechristie2569

    @stevechristie2569

    4 жыл бұрын

    Julie I want to talk to you

  • @danellae.perezschmieloz5958

    @danellae.perezschmieloz5958

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@51MontyPython ikr

  • @jetjacobwildandcrazyrandom1320
    @jetjacobwildandcrazyrandom13205 жыл бұрын

    Be looks like he can get the vows and all the horses in the trailer wearing that cowboy hat. I'm from ft worth tx so yes boy. Looks very good.

  • @boofert.washington2499

    @boofert.washington2499

    5 жыл бұрын

    817 in the house!

  • @jetjacobwildandcrazyrandom1320
    @jetjacobwildandcrazyrandom13205 жыл бұрын

    I don't know what I am doing commenting on this you tube video of billy back in 1998. Nobody notices! Ha ha

  • @DavidRFIT

    @DavidRFIT

    5 жыл бұрын

    I do.

  • @vitron01

    @vitron01

    4 жыл бұрын

    I noticed, I also noticed that you are touched, aren't you. Good thing Billy C never came up missing. You probably would have been the #1 suspect in his disappearance.

  • @coryc1904

    @coryc1904

    3 жыл бұрын

    I notice you, brother. Hi there. You truly matter.

  • @manlymen552
    @manlymen5522 жыл бұрын

    Bill.. I was a extra in West world!!! 😂

  • @6linx9
    @6linx93 жыл бұрын

    Billy Corgan looks like the robot killer from Westworld.

  • @jetjacobwildandcrazyrandom1320
    @jetjacobwildandcrazyrandom13205 жыл бұрын

    Perfect. You know it had 2 B

  • @Fan4club
    @Fan4club3 жыл бұрын

    It interesting he thinks “pure rock” is often corralling energy with no great purpose - and sees authentic emotional territory as the goal which he has achieved at times - how he shifts from the easy way to the deep way...

  • @frankrobinson8852
    @frankrobinson8852 Жыл бұрын

    Well I like him

  • @kelvinsNo01
    @kelvinsNo014 жыл бұрын

    Shit, I just saw him talking about EHX OP Amp and ordered it... now he he is talking about HX effects... Was the re-issue not that good than? ;)

  • @aironnoles5588
    @aironnoles55882 жыл бұрын

    A coincidence for me that he mentioned John Lennon cause a couple of weeks prior I stumble upon Julian Lennon and find out he is one of two sons of John Lennon which obviously I'm not a Beatles fan since the only song at the time I knew was " Hey Jude " but I did go through an Paul McCartney/Beatles binge . Although Oasis which came much later than the Beatles sounds familiar to the Beatles and roughly about that time Third Eye Blind , Oasis , a little more cleaned up Goo Goo Dolls , The Smashing Pumpkins , and etc . Although I don't remember SP being around when The Goo Goo Dolls were grunge like Nirvana , and maybe Marilyn Manson but apparently SP in the earlier years were grungy . I'm glad they somewhat changed I was not a big fan of the Goo Goo Dolls in there earlier years or maybe in the future I'll learn to appreciate the music I don't like now .

  • @ejb5659
    @ejb56595 жыл бұрын

    He looks like a young Yul Brynner from the Bizarro World.

  • @SIXTHREEONEFOURTHREENIONEOOSEV
    @SIXTHREEONEFOURTHREENIONEOOSEV5 жыл бұрын

    koooooooooooooooooooooollllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll

  • @bmla88
    @bmla883 жыл бұрын

    Billy Corgan 1998: This hat is a good look. 2020: Noooooooooooooo!

  • @coryc1904

    @coryc1904

    3 жыл бұрын

    Actually it suits him really well. He's one of US, not a liberal into critical theory like YOU. He is literally a patriarch and he fights for the Right side.

  • @joshuaforde167

    @joshuaforde167

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@coryc1904 oh boyyyy

  • @Longrangetargets
    @Longrangetargets3 жыл бұрын

    Adore would have been accepted if it wasn't SP. BC himself said it was purposely different.

  • @TheHSIHP

    @TheHSIHP

    3 жыл бұрын

    Also, if it came out a decade later.

  • @MrOcote-gp9fu
    @MrOcote-gp9fu4 жыл бұрын

    country roaaaaaaaaaaad take me hoooooooome to the plaaaaaaaaace i belooooooooooooon oh west virginiaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa country mamaaaaaaa take me hoooooooooome courney looooooooooooove

  • @sageanderson8527
    @sageanderson85274 жыл бұрын

    Yeehaw

  • @mayorofthenonsense
    @mayorofthenonsense Жыл бұрын

    He was basically right about the whole institution of rock music dying. There have been a handful of revivals since then, but rock music as a genre really peaked at around 1996. It had gone from a serious and increasingly sophisticated art form to easy listening party music by the end of the 90’s. Much more downtempo and one dimensional. Of course we saw the rise of the heavier nu-metal bands, but I really put them in their own category and personally suspect that Nu-metal was predominantly a fabrication of the music industry, where they wanted to try and create an updated form of grunge music for the new millennium, which they basically did. I don’t want to shit on individual bands and their achievements, but all of a sudden you had these bands exploding onto the mainstream, all wearing the same stuff, all collaborating with the same producers, and basically all sounding the same. A completely different approach, clearly driven by commercial interests, and in many ways the opposite of what Rock music was supposed to be about.

  • @mattrushing8025
    @mattrushing80252 жыл бұрын

    Some might consider Gemini the ultimate expression of duality, but sure Billy, go with Pisces.

  • @mojojoe-jo2170
    @mojojoe-jo21702 жыл бұрын

    'How long can you DO this?' Whoa. This was perhaps the most savage interview I've ever seen. Billy spends 20 minutes hawking a made up version of the rock star he wishes he could be meanwhile Charlie tries to crack him like a nut. Charlie sounded truly angry at times just trying to get something real out of him. And notice Billy sipping that water and giggling every odd minute? He was scared to death. I mean look at that freaking hat! (I wish we had interviewers this good today. I think you may have to be off be that interested in getting to the root of people.)

  • @threeminuteshate

    @threeminuteshate

    2 жыл бұрын

    This is a pretty typical Charlie Rose interview.

  • @godzillasimpson8357
    @godzillasimpson83572 жыл бұрын

    The 90s gets a bad rep for the music not being Van Halen white snake good. You realize there is more than one way to show guitar talent than be malmsteen. The 90s proved that. Don’t get me wrong I love the 80s but the 90s had good hits too.

  • @williamturner84
    @williamturner846 жыл бұрын

    He seems sad when asked ab9 asked about adores success

  • @parksrobinson3606

    @parksrobinson3606

    3 жыл бұрын

    the interviewer asked the question in the worst way possible lol

  • @mikeneuburger3989

    @mikeneuburger3989

    3 жыл бұрын

    It wasn’t selling.

  • @kawaiitos
    @kawaiitos Жыл бұрын

    6:15 and 6:58 Billy releasing his inner Betty la fea

  • @dangulino5392
    @dangulino5392 Жыл бұрын

    Intelligence is shining through here

  • @SSs-ch4ey
    @SSs-ch4ey2 жыл бұрын

    That cowboy hat noooooo

  • @0gloomy0

    @0gloomy0

    Жыл бұрын

    you the real clown

  • @Yee2128
    @Yee2128 Жыл бұрын

    13

  • @jimmylipp3568
    @jimmylipp35685 жыл бұрын

    Alvin 🐿

  • @enochancient9931
    @enochancient99312 жыл бұрын

    I liked adore but after that I took a break

  • @RobbGorringe
    @RobbGorringe3 жыл бұрын

    So sad that he said he's waited years to have Billy Corgan on, yet he's oblivious as a host to give him some more damn water!

  • @JJ-ze6vb
    @JJ-ze6vb Жыл бұрын

    That interview must’ve been when they did their country record.

  • @jetjacobwildandcrazyrandom1320
    @jetjacobwildandcrazyrandom13205 жыл бұрын

    My dad

  • @RunOfTheHind
    @RunOfTheHind2 ай бұрын

    He never knew how to handle the death of grunge/alternative and the rise of nu-metal/rap-rock. He thought he was owed things that no-one is.

  • @Benjabola
    @Benjabola4 жыл бұрын

    I wonder how he started.

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