Big Old FAIRBANKS MORSE Engines COLD STARTING UP AND COOL SOUND 3

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  • @tonyv8925
    @tonyv89252 жыл бұрын

    There is something calming and pleasing about listening to these old engines running. Seems like they could run forever.

  • @subramaniamchandrasekar1397

    @subramaniamchandrasekar1397

    2 жыл бұрын

    Slow speed engines, simple design, over sized mechanical parts. They keep running for ever. Regards.

  • @Soupdragon1964

    @Soupdragon1964

    2 жыл бұрын

    That's a good comment. I'd never thought of it before, but there is something calming about them.

  • @darinb.3273

    @darinb.3273

    2 жыл бұрын

    Until the fuel runs out 😜. I understand what you folks mean though; EXTREMELY well made and very HEAVY DUTY. Not to mention they are heavy in weight too.

  • @peterkordziel7047

    @peterkordziel7047

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@darinb.3273 I saw a video of one running a set of pumps in a oil field and had been running since the early thirties nonstop, I guess it's fuel was the gas vapor from the wells.

  • @billwright1020
    @billwright10202 жыл бұрын

    I worked for Fairbanks Scales for 40 years starting in 1974. Was still Fairbanks Morse a division of Colt Industries. Retired in 2014. I'm now 70 and Fairbanks is still making scales.

  • @paulsto6516
    @paulsto65162 жыл бұрын

    Fairbanks Morse engines have a unique, wonderful, and even comforting sound. Thanks for posting!

  • @randycoolbaugh1408
    @randycoolbaugh14082 жыл бұрын

    I could sit and listen to that 6-cylinder run all day long... and probably all night as well.

  • @fettlerjohn3419

    @fettlerjohn3419

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yep 👌🏼

  • @jayswarrow1196

    @jayswarrow1196

    2 жыл бұрын

    Here's another one for you. kzread.info/dash/bejne/aWSiw5mRYaS1mbg.html (abit smaller, and little out of tune, but still)

  • @randycoolbaugh1408

    @randycoolbaugh1408

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jayswarrow1196 Yup! thats it! that puts me right to sleep!

  • @flatmoon6359

    @flatmoon6359

    2 жыл бұрын

    All century as well.Used to sleep near to a 24v generator for Radio Comms in BAOR,on top of some mountain,come back in to camp,wake up in room,Why Gennie not running.Oh,back in camp,go to sleep.Silly sounds you miss.

  • @jayswarrow1196

    @jayswarrow1196

    2 жыл бұрын

    ​@@randycoolbaugh1408 Well, that's why people sleep on the intercity busses, - the nerve-soothing rhymes of three-by-three, within all the rev range.

  • @vollkrassmann858
    @vollkrassmann8582 жыл бұрын

    These machines were obviously constructed for eternity.... still running a hundred ys later with probably the same sound as in the beginning. I am highly impressed. Thx for sharing !

  • @ralphaverill2001
    @ralphaverill20012 жыл бұрын

    It's worth noting that, as far as I know, Fairbanks-Morse is still making two-stroke engines for marine, rail, and co-generating applications in Beloit, Wi. Twenty yars ago a college campus I worked at installed a beautiful FB co-generation plant. The engine was an opposing piston, 6 cylinder, 12 piston, (think about that,) 2 stroke, dual fuel diesel/natural gas unit generating 1.3 megawatts. I watched them build it. A magnifecent piece of machinery.

  • @charlesangell_bulmtl

    @charlesangell_bulmtl

    2 жыл бұрын

    Efficient emissions control is KISS (less fuel consumption, less emissions) Instead they want to feed YET MORE $$$ into the Petroleum Industry needlessly Conservation is wiser The EPA needs to get out of the way as modern diesel hybrids need to flood the highways Forget the Excess battery weight for the US and It's miles of highways ... 60+ years the Electromotive have been saving fuel/maintenance costs in shipping A nice modern opposed piston Multi-fuel series hybrid IS DO ABLE NOW The driving public should have reaped these benefits of economy DECADES AGO...

  • @pamike4873

    @pamike4873

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@charlesangell_bulmtl That and the geniuses in the EPA decided to ban VW diesels from the US because...reasons. They get 50+ mpg for pete's sake. But no, oh good Lord no, they were cheating on emissions. It's almost like VW didn't offer a big enough bribe to the powers that be. We need to take our country back. All the regulations are destroying the country. China is getting rich off of US regulations driving labor costs through the roof. When you're regulated to the point that you can't manufacture in your own country, that's a problem.

  • @ralphaverill2001

    @ralphaverill2001

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@richardbrown8794 Call Fairbanks-Morse in Beloit, Wi.

  • @pamike4873

    @pamike4873

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@richardbrown8794 You can't afford it. Unless you need a VERY large diesel for your tugboat or locomotive. Or you need a megawatt of standby power.

  • @alimughal8210

    @alimughal8210

    2 жыл бұрын

    t

  • @robertwaldeck7507
    @robertwaldeck75072 жыл бұрын

    Es ist immer wieder schön wenn so alte Motoren laufen.

  • @tractorsandengines
    @tractorsandengines2 жыл бұрын

    Do you like these Faibanks Morse Engines ?

  • @itcity7477

    @itcity7477

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes

  • @Jay-fb2lv

    @Jay-fb2lv

    2 жыл бұрын

    Why did you steal two of my videos?

  • @jacknedry3925

    @jacknedry3925

    2 жыл бұрын

    Who doesn’t?

  • @spaceace1006

    @spaceace1006

    5 ай бұрын

    Unbelievable! Sure, It's primitive technology but it's still just amazing to see!

  • @tracythorn2918
    @tracythorn29182 жыл бұрын

    My father was a welder at Fairbanks in Beloit for over 50 years retiring in 2000. I will show him this video. The company is still in business in Beloit building engines for the Navy.

  • @mramerican9627

    @mramerican9627

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yup we’re still building massive engines over here.

  • @brianlove8413

    @brianlove8413

    2 жыл бұрын

    Pielstick Colt PC2.5/6?

  • @karlk6860
    @karlk68602 жыл бұрын

    I have always found it rather fascinating when you look at these old engines, they are so simple, reliable and efficient. They all run at such low RPM as compared to today, you take a single cylinder engine and it runs at 400 RPM and I bet if you kept if full of the consumables it needs I bet it run for years straight non stop. NO planed obsolescence in this engineering!

  • @TheMilwaukieDan

    @TheMilwaukieDan

    2 жыл бұрын

    Efficient???? I don’t think so.

  • @marksommers6764

    @marksommers6764

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@TheMilwaukieDan, you're a young'un aren't you .

  • @TheMilwaukieDan

    @TheMilwaukieDan

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@marksommers6764 no Mr. Sommers, I’m 75 and love these engines. I coukd be around them all day and enjoy them. True they will run forever if maintained properly. However, that said, I really don’t think they are very efficient for todays needs. Thank you for the reply.

  • @420timedude
    @420timedude2 жыл бұрын

    I used to go to a farm owned by a childhood friend's family, they had a very old Fairbanks engine running almost all of the time in the winter, adding electrical energy to their solar batteries for free! The fuel was the methane from bacterial decomposition tanks they had (8 huge tanks). the coolest part was the heat-exchanger, it heated the water in its copper pipes to add extra energy to the houses heating system, all from waste exhaust heat

  • @dougc190
    @dougc1902 жыл бұрын

    I love watching these old engines, but man I wish I could hear them under load doing their job

  • @junkyardwizard9092

    @junkyardwizard9092

    2 жыл бұрын

    I think the same. I love the way they sound, but they all are free wheeling without a load. I what to hear one really grunt working hard (or at least under the load they were designed for)

  • @staceybrown686
    @staceybrown6862 жыл бұрын

    Fairbanks-Morse is still in business in southeast Wisconsin, I know a welding engineer that worked there as recently as a couple years ago. Definitely not defunct.

  • @Soupdragon1964
    @Soupdragon19642 жыл бұрын

    Great engines, and a perfect illustration of the difference between horsepower and torque.

  • @johnyoung7146
    @johnyoung71462 жыл бұрын

    I love seeing these old engines up and running.

  • @leehauxwell1149
    @leehauxwell1149 Жыл бұрын

    Brings back memories on English country shows with the agricultural machinery classes. These guys liked to show off how slowly they could get their engines to idle

  • @strobx1
    @strobx12 жыл бұрын

    Interesting that you can see the scavenging port in each cylinder

  • @gilbertorodriguez1066
    @gilbertorodriguez1066 Жыл бұрын

    When we built these engines we built them to last damn it proud to be at Fairbanks Morse Defense!!

  • @Rebel9668
    @Rebel96682 жыл бұрын

    I used to have a Fairbanks-Morse AM/SW table radio from the late 30's. I refinished the cabinet and sent the chassis to a friend of mine to get the caps/resistors replaced. Sadly he passed away before he could get to it and during his families grieving asking for it would have seemed to me to be in bad taste and so I never asked for it back.

  • @benscoles5085

    @benscoles5085

    2 жыл бұрын

    I would said something along the lines of, ''so sad he never got to work on my radio I sent him last year, he was one of a few that I knew I could depend upon to get it working, ''

  • @Rebel9668

    @Rebel9668

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@benscoles5085 Since then I've gotten into restoring the electronics of the sets myself and have a good idea I could tackle it now. Usually it just involves changing out all the old leaky paper & wax capacitors, the electrolytic capacitors and any out of tolerance resistors. Tubes themselves seldom ever go bad. It does happen, but not nearly as often as you'd think. I even picked up an RF signal generator to give old sets a good alignment on the RF and IF cans for better gain and to help the dial point true to the station it's receiving. Some day I'll find another set of that make and restore it myself. I did recently find a set like my Grandparents had bought new in 1948, a white plaskon model of a FADA 970.

  • @geneticdisorder1900

    @geneticdisorder1900

    2 жыл бұрын

    ☹️☹️

  • @woodstock911snoopy
    @woodstock911snoopy2 жыл бұрын

    I great up in Beloit, WI, I knew about the scales and heard about Fairbanks-Morse engines. Thanks to see about all the other items.

  • @christopherwinter6911
    @christopherwinter69112 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for posting! I love those old time engines!

  • @billsmith305
    @billsmith3052 жыл бұрын

    Beautiful engines, beautiful music they play ,😊

  • @kaasmeester5903
    @kaasmeester59032 жыл бұрын

    Awesome bit of history there.

  • @David-wu7jj
    @David-wu7jj2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you very informative, love those old time machines

  • @hawidymm9618
    @hawidymm96182 жыл бұрын

    اجمل موسيقى /، الة رائعة جدا(( اخوكم من ليبيا))

  • @janibeg3247
    @janibeg32472 жыл бұрын

    we used to drive by the Fairbanks morse plant in Beloit, Wis. when we visited my grandparents farm just outside the city.

  • @screwsnutsandbolts
    @screwsnutsandbolts Жыл бұрын

    Awesome old engines ! 👍

  • @ronmcwhirter3641
    @ronmcwhirter36412 жыл бұрын

    Wow. Just plain wonderful.

  • @jackzeilsdorff3164
    @jackzeilsdorff31642 жыл бұрын

    soothing sound,,, I could fall asleep to that!

  • @edilsonmartins6653
    @edilsonmartins66532 жыл бұрын

    Motores impressionantes!!

  • @kightremin
    @kightremin2 жыл бұрын

    0:00 That remainds me of when I was young

  • @cake6420
    @cake64202 жыл бұрын

    I love your vids and I'm in the country hills of the great state of Tennessee.

  • @gilsoncarlos8706
    @gilsoncarlos87062 жыл бұрын

    Que coisa linda parabéns pelo video.

  • @williampalacio3489
    @williampalacio34892 жыл бұрын

    JUST WATCHING THEM ,ON HOW SMOOTH THEY RUN, AND THAT SOUND ,MAKES FEEL LIKE, AN EAGLE FLYING UP IN THE SKY,,,,

  • @randolph4896
    @randolph48962 жыл бұрын

    I was a deckhand back in the 80's. If the ship engines quit, I'd wake up. I got so used to the sound and vibrations. Same as today 40 yrs later working in remote exploration camps in Canadas arctic. If the generator quits, i wake up immediately.

  • @Ken-tx6vu
    @Ken-tx6vu2 жыл бұрын

    OH. And like and love any and all kinds of engines

  • @digitallion3861
    @digitallion38612 жыл бұрын

    I love the "sound" of machines and I appreciate videos like these. I just wish someone appreciated them as much as I do and invest in a quality microphone so we can hear these machines properly.

  • @Happpy68999
    @Happpy68999 Жыл бұрын

    Very big vs strong machine

  • @pablopabe1702
    @pablopabe17022 жыл бұрын

    Me maravilla ver esos motores hantiguos dicel que en una hepoca rebolucionaron la industria los acerraderos como maquinas de cultibo mi hagradecimiento a todos esos pioneros

  • @UncaDave
    @UncaDave2 жыл бұрын

    Koreshan State Park in FL has a Fairbanks-Morse they run every Saturday. It runs an alternating current generator. The original was in 1926.

  • @WarbirdPhoenix
    @WarbirdPhoenix2 жыл бұрын

    🎵 🎶 OG industrial beats. 🎶 🎵

  • @billmorris2613
    @billmorris26132 жыл бұрын

    Good afternoon to all from SE Louisiana 17 Jan 22.

  • @mikesahle1193
    @mikesahle11932 жыл бұрын

    Impressive 👍💡🙏thank you 🙏

  • @peted3637
    @peted36372 жыл бұрын

    2:35 - Did I see the head lift when that first cylinder commenced knocking?

  • @TomokosEnterprize
    @TomokosEnterprize2 жыл бұрын

    Great post. Thanks a bunch for leaving the chat up long enough to read.

  • @aganwisnu
    @aganwisnu2 жыл бұрын

    Nice video, thx for sharing! 😀

  • @gregalexander8189
    @gregalexander81892 жыл бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @user7amoud34
    @user7amoud342 жыл бұрын

    Wow La ilaha ila allah

  • @eamonmcdonnell8275
    @eamonmcdonnell82752 жыл бұрын

    Great Video! Thanks.

  • @Coffreek
    @Coffreek2 жыл бұрын

    That Fairbanks-Morse music.

  • @petebeatminister
    @petebeatminister2 жыл бұрын

    Amazing to see those old 2 stroke engines. How massive everything was built on them, like the huge exhaust ports on the first one, where you can watch the pistons move up and down. And despite being very expensive and only having 15 or 20 bhp, it was such a incredible improvement over the previous ways of working, with horses or steam engines. Here in Germany there are a number of enthusiasts, who restored tractors with this kind of engines, mainly the "Lanz Bulldog". kzread.info/dash/bejne/f2xp2ZuhmZCwhJs.html

  • @johncunningham4820

    @johncunningham4820

    2 жыл бұрын

    Horsepower might not have been high , but the Torque was IMMENSE . The Important number , especially on a Static Engine .

  • @victoryfirst2878
    @victoryfirst28782 жыл бұрын

    Would love to own a single cylinder unit for a decent price. Nice video

  • @victoryfirst2878

    @victoryfirst2878

    2 жыл бұрын

    @SittingMoose Shaman Thanks for the information Sir. I look forward to see them in action and try to make a deal too. Peace VF

  • @navelriver
    @navelriver Жыл бұрын

    Crankcase scavenging, simple and effective!

  • @rhetoricbytolyan1987
    @rhetoricbytolyan19872 жыл бұрын

    Ахренеть, вот это сноповязалка! Вот это я понимаю!

  • @kresimirmilisa5560
    @kresimirmilisa55602 жыл бұрын

    This was very good factory until the year 1958.

  • @skoylux
    @skoylux2 жыл бұрын

    And jazz was born...

  • @ChiefCabioch
    @ChiefCabioch2 жыл бұрын

    Pawnee,OK. Steam and gas engine show, first weekend in May...

  • @1gofastboat327
    @1gofastboat3276 ай бұрын

    Awesome

  • @Doug6412
    @Doug64127 ай бұрын

    Great machines for taking oil and convertingit into noise and carbon

  • @steelblue8
    @steelblue82 жыл бұрын

    This is incredible! Love these machines- the part I waas most surprised by was the fact that an american company invented that type of windmill, because to me, they are the most stereotypical thing to find on an aussie farm

  • @thisisdvd8094
    @thisisdvd80942 жыл бұрын

    Somebody should attempt to stick one of these in something resembling a modern pickup truck, just for fun

  • @herowillrose3198
    @herowillrose31982 жыл бұрын

    In the old days thing were made for ever, this machine is the evidence lasting forever, if we don’t go to technical. These engines designed for fishing vessels, barge boats, non stop operations- liked generators, sugar cane industrial, etc.

  • @davewolf8869
    @davewolf88692 жыл бұрын

    Imagine relying on one of these behemoths to supply electricity to your small town, and seeing the lights slowly power up when she finally gets up to speed

  • @flatmoon6359

    @flatmoon6359

    2 жыл бұрын

    Every small town should have their own,just incase.

  • @jc-d6179
    @jc-d61792 жыл бұрын

    Very nice.

  • @jandeheel5954
    @jandeheel5954 Жыл бұрын

    Super 👍

  • @brentfisher902
    @brentfisher9022 жыл бұрын

    I feel a litlle Sufi coming on....

  • @MeaHeaR
    @MeaHeaR2 жыл бұрын

    Aww Cuté Pútt Pútt Enginês 💓💓💖

  • @merlemorrison482
    @merlemorrison4822 жыл бұрын

    Pretty imptessive!

  • @aSpyIntheHaus
    @aSpyIntheHaus Жыл бұрын

    When you watch these at 2x speed they sound like normal diesel engines. :)

  • @flatmoon6359
    @flatmoon63592 жыл бұрын

    This is when Engineers were highly skilled, technical people that understood physics, mathematics,log tables,they probably used slide rules to do the calculation,for stuff that will outlast their grandkids.People call themselves engineers if they change parts on a washing machines or computers or toasters.

  • @johnneedy3164
    @johnneedy31642 жыл бұрын

    At our festival time there is a Amish group who has their sweet stuff and also make ice cream with a hit an miss engine 😉

  • @TimoLahti
    @TimoLahti2 жыл бұрын

    Nice. But I'd like to see this equipment in actual work. That would give the scale for the power of these engines. Usually those are shown just idling without work load. If you know such exhibit shown in KZread that presents similar kind of engines in work than in this video, I would be interested. Thank you

  • @krissfemmpaws1029
    @krissfemmpaws10292 жыл бұрын

    I recognize the black 3-cylinder dressed up with a bunting around it it's at Roche Harbor Washington not far from where I live.

  • @UQRXD
    @UQRXD2 жыл бұрын

    We still are using the same piston, crankshaft, internal combustion engines to this day with a bit of dressing on them. What ever happened to rotary and turbine engines for car? I rebuilt some 12 cylinder marine diesels in my day GM 2 cycle super charged 1500hp.

  • @dale116dot7

    @dale116dot7

    2 жыл бұрын

    Turbine engines don’t do well with they high dynamic range that cars demand, their efficiency at idle is pretty bad, and car engines idle a lot. Rotary engines have seal leaking issues and aren’t as efficient as a well designed piston engine.

  • @user-hq5eg8ts3p
    @user-hq5eg8ts3p2 жыл бұрын

    वाह

  • @user-145edxX57
    @user-145edxX57 Жыл бұрын

    4:17 music diesel power

  • @AdamosDad
    @AdamosDad2 жыл бұрын

    We all need a hobby.

  • @ollieoniel
    @ollieoniel2 жыл бұрын

    get it up to enough speed that you can uses a kiss of friction to stop the flywheel.

  • @dennisk5818
    @dennisk58182 жыл бұрын

    I understand how diesel and gasoline engines work, but was the diesel an easier engine to build, historically? Or was it that gasoline required a greater amount of refining?

  • @raymondlengvarsky618

    @raymondlengvarsky618

    2 жыл бұрын

    Diesel engines while more expensive, are far more durable and much longer lasting, plus diesel fuel is actually an oil, which helps reduce wear, while gasoline is a solvent.

  • @chrispop99

    @chrispop99

    Жыл бұрын

    The thermal efficiency of a diesel engine is about 15% higher than a gasoline one.

  • @aeroflopper
    @aeroflopper2 жыл бұрын

    that first one reminds me of my first girl friend

  • @lahoucine
    @lahoucine2 жыл бұрын

    the first one sounds like my neighbor's bed knocking on wall

  • @geneticdisorder1900
    @geneticdisorder19002 жыл бұрын

    That first old motor sounds like my headboard.

  • @geneticdisorder1900

    @geneticdisorder1900

    2 жыл бұрын

    Well what it used to sound like. 😬

  • @RJ1999x

    @RJ1999x

    2 жыл бұрын

    When your neighbor Jake comes over?

  • @geneticdisorder1900

    @geneticdisorder1900

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@RJ1999x That wouldn’t help either, it ain’t me.

  • @RJ1999x

    @RJ1999x

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@geneticdisorder1900 lol

  • @briananthony4044

    @briananthony4044

    2 жыл бұрын

    I lived in a flat once, you'd call it a condominium I think. The lady next door's headboard made the same sound against an adjoining wall when her boyfriend came over, I wonder why.

  • @The_DuMont_Network
    @The_DuMont_Network2 жыл бұрын

    These are wonderful - compare these to the F-M Opposed Cylinder "Rock Crushers" and the Deltics". Not many sweeter sounds...

  • @meTimetraveler
    @meTimetraveler2 жыл бұрын

    3:42 75hp :)

  • @cuda7133
    @cuda7133 Жыл бұрын

    At 2:24, how many KW is the generator?

  • @krzysztofjaskulski6022
    @krzysztofjaskulski60222 жыл бұрын

    Maszyna porowa trochę ognia i mamy moc a jeśli zabraknie mocy wszystko padnie 🥶Nie wiem generator +cysterna paliwa masakra😱

  • @amyjojinkerson6745
    @amyjojinkerson67452 жыл бұрын

    what kind of fuel did they use

  • @Soleman-sowelm
    @Soleman-sowelm Жыл бұрын

    امهوربه خالص

  • @hawkdsl
    @hawkdsl2 жыл бұрын

    75 HP, and 200,000 FP of torq! LOL

  • @erbenton07
    @erbenton072 жыл бұрын

    Why does the last engine rock so much?

  • @Jay-fb2lv

    @Jay-fb2lv

    2 жыл бұрын

    Because it’s 9” bit and 11” stroke Diesel engine on a cart. It’s also my engine.

  • @onlinebills9169
    @onlinebills91692 жыл бұрын

    Over 100 year-old machinery that still works fine. And you cant get a Ford, Chevy, Dodge vehicle to run right after 20 years without changing almost everything under the hood (exceptions apply)

  • @billneptune9097
    @billneptune90972 жыл бұрын

    Dang i just got you 28k views from a facebook group in one day.

  • @da43544
    @da435442 жыл бұрын

    2サイクルディーゼルエンジンだな

  • @JT-ok8te
    @JT-ok8te2 жыл бұрын

    How fuel efficient are these motors? Is it a multi fuel?

  • @subramaniamchandrasekar1397

    @subramaniamchandrasekar1397

    2 жыл бұрын

    They take high speed diesel and low speed diesel oil. All diesel engines are able to run from many vegetable oils. Earlier days groundnut oil was very common.

  • @JT-ok8te

    @JT-ok8te

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@subramaniamchandrasekar1397 Thats Amazing! Thanks for the reply back

  • @filhosousa6556
    @filhosousa65562 жыл бұрын

    Antônio Carlos Brasil

  • @crazymasina8524
    @crazymasina8524 Жыл бұрын

    And today the company is now known as Fairbanks Morse Duh-fense. It's a sad shadow of its former self.

  • @tomthumb5445
    @tomthumb54452 жыл бұрын

    I watch a lot of these videos, there is a lot of information included. But I never see anything about fuel consumption. Just very curious.

  • @Quarryman29
    @Quarryman292 жыл бұрын

    Where are all these exhibits please?

  • @philbenson6041
    @philbenson6041 Жыл бұрын

    20 HP BUT 2 million ft pounds of torque

  • @brownwrench
    @brownwrench2 жыл бұрын

    3 and 4 don't seem to be firing on the second engine.

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