What a base level, no research, argument. He ruled at two different times.

@RisingofAlkebulan

26 күн бұрын

What proof is there, that's says he ruled different times

@rj.b8218

25 күн бұрын

​@@RisingofAlkebulan II Chron. 22:1 . States the he come into power in his father's stead. After co ruling for a time.

Not a contradiction brothers🙌🙏, It means He reign two times the second one was after the battle🫶

@FriedFlakes667

25 күн бұрын

How can you begin something twice? In the McCarthy study Bible it even labels it as a copyist error.

@dannyfernandez1534

25 күн бұрын

@@FriedFlakes667 I have seen it in the study bible and Like most Christians don't agree on it being a error.

@FriedFlakes667

25 күн бұрын

@@dannyfernandez1534 who would be more knowledgeable in this case? Random Christian’s or someone who deeply studied the Bible?

@FriedFlakes667

25 күн бұрын

@@dannyfernandez1534 Also, you don’t begin something twice, you stop, then continue. Both verses say he began.

@dannyfernandez1534

25 күн бұрын

@@FriedFlakes667 and you know I'm not one to be deeply studied how?

If you read this passage without context it does look like a contradiction, the explanation for this is that ahaziaha did teeeechically start rulling when he was 22 years old however he did not have full control since his family was pulling the strings so after that he began ruling at 42 years old, both are correct

@Dumiiengwenya

28 күн бұрын

But it says the same thing in both verses, it does say in the other verse that he was ruling for the second time. The only difference in these verses is how old he was.... How come it says the same thing, so if you're saying that he ruled twice it means the writer made a mistake

@streettalk4593

28 күн бұрын

How do you know this and where was it explained in the Bible, because I believe it was supposed to be explained so that it may be clear

@ThandiweMasoka-ru2ne

28 күн бұрын

Where is this explanation found?

@ElDogeRenacido

27 күн бұрын

​@@ThandiweMasoka-ru2ne read the entirety of Kings and Chronicles.

He ruled two times its not a contradiction, once when he was co ruler along side with his father on his sick bed, and ruled again after he came back and being chosen to rule by the people.

@Dumiiengwenya

28 күн бұрын

But it says the same thing in both verses, it does say in the other verse that he was ruling for the second time. The only difference in these verses is how old he was.... How come it says the same thing, so if you're saying that he ruled twice it means the writer made a mistake

@streettalk4593

28 күн бұрын

I don't understand how you say he ruled twice but the Bible says something else... I also say if he ruled twice then they should have said it in the Bible clear....

@dumingwenya5150

28 күн бұрын

This one is a clear contradiction, It shows that the Bible is a book like any other book

@dumingwenya5150

28 күн бұрын

One may use it as an inspiration to him/her just like any other book

@ThandiweZanokuthula

28 күн бұрын

How?? Did he rule twice

It says he is 22. Then it says HE IS 42. It doesn't say anything about his family or anyone else. It says HE IS 42. That is a clear contradiction.

@Vittorio717

26 күн бұрын

Ahaziah was part of two dynasties He was the bloodline of David, whose dynasty began more than 150 years earlier, but he was also a son of the dynasty of Omri, whose first full year began 42 years earlier, in 884 B.C. The age of 22 year from 2 Kings 8:26 relates to his physical age when he began to reign while the age of 42 from 2 Chronicles 22:2 relates to the age of the dynasty of Omri, of which Ahaziah was part of. You can calculate like this: Omri 6 years (as king over all the house of Israel) + Ahab 22 years + Ahaziah (Ahab son) 2 years + Jehoram (Ahab son) 12 years + = 42 Thus, there is no contradiction between these 2 verses.

@AyubHassan07

26 күн бұрын

@@Vittorio717 It says clearly: "Ahaziah was forty-two years old when he became king, and he reigned one year in Jerusalem." Why would any book start doing maths and add up the age of the whole family? That would be very strange. Just admit the bible made a mistake; like it has in many places.

@JedSorby

26 күн бұрын

@@AyubHassan07 I think it's important to distinguish from mistakes and translation issues (this is how this "contradiction" is viewed among key religious and Biblical scholars). Also, it's very easy for Muslims to go at the Bible for having many versions and "contradictions", when the only reason you have the "one" Qur'an is because of Caliph Uthman murdering and destroying the authors of other Quranic versions and their versions.

The Bible has a lot of contradictions

@danilom951

28 күн бұрын

Oh yeah go ahead name some

@LeoDenzelJr

27 күн бұрын

And quran has terrorism

@AyubHassan07

26 күн бұрын

@@danilom951 You can watch many youtube videos about it and even articles online. Even christians have said so.

@JedSorby

26 күн бұрын

@@AyubHassan07 list the videos, name the sources, cite your quotes

Its a copyist error at most.

Bro you can say the same thing about the Quran. It was written by humans too.

@RisingofAlkebulan

26 күн бұрын

Indeed, all books were written by man

@abdulbasitmehmood755

26 күн бұрын

Although it was written by humans. But it was verified by the Holy Prophet Muhammad him self. While the bible was never verified by Christ. If it was verified by him, there were no contradiction.

You're absolutely right. And this can be done with all religious scripture, because it's all the word of man. No one else writes. That doesn't mean it should not be believed, only that the supporting evidence must be proportional to the claims made within the writings.

He reigned twice at two different times. This is the problem with Muslims, they’re taught the dawah scrip and take a few verses here and there without context.

@IvoryQirat

26 күн бұрын

It's pretty clear English, It says "when he became king" followed by the same time of reign of the same location, followed by the same statement of lineage. You're blatantly fabricating nonexistent evidence. This is the problem with Christians.

@JedSorby

26 күн бұрын

@@IvoryQirat hey man 😊, this is widely considered by Biblical and theological scholars to be a mistranslation, which is okay, reading within the context of anything is important. The Qur'an is interesting tho, because it affirms that the Bible (including the Pentateuch) is true, which directly contradicts the Qur'an's existence (I have read the Sura's which these verses are in, but I may be missing some context). And I mean, if your Qur'an says my Bible is true, why is it that so so few Muslims actually read it?

@IvoryQirat

26 күн бұрын

@@JedSorbyhey Jed, we’re talking numbers here, there’s no room for mistranslation of a numeral. As for your statement regarding the verse in the Quran, the gospel that God refers to is the scripture revealed to Jesus (pbuh), the injeel. His book was to be followed and is the word of God. Today’s gospel is a combination unpreserved, fabricated, omitted or interpolated verses from unknown authors or people who claim they were “divinely inspired”. Thus, the Quran becomes the final revelation that brings clarity to what had been corrupted to bring people back to worshipping their creator.

@JedSorby

26 күн бұрын

@@IvoryQirat If you look and the ancient Hebrew numerology, 4 and 2 are very very similar So your Qur'an also says the Word of "Allah" cannot be corrupted or fabricated. That's interesting, because you therefore claim that the Word of "Allah" is corrupt and not divinely inspired. And if there is an "injeel", why is there not historical evidence of it whatsoever, even if you say that the Bible was extrapolated from the injeel. No early Church fathers claim there was another coming "Prophet", and they were the ones who learnt from Jesus. Are you saying Jesus was a bad teacher, and didn't speak clearly?

@IvoryQirat

26 күн бұрын

​@@JedSorby Why are you blatantly lying, these two chapters are derived from the Hebrew bible, which clearly shows one as 42 and the other as 22. It is an indisputable fact that this is a contradiction. As for your second claim, you misrepresented the verse to suit your argument. The verse you refer to speaks for the Quran only. "Al-dhikr" utilizes the definite article to specify the Quran. This fact upholds as the Quran has been perfectly preserved from the time of its revelation. The "church fathers" is an appeal to authority fallacy, many of them are preachers, not academics in biblical text. I am not sure I can take you seriously after your last statement, truly a disappointing reaction from you. "Are you saying Jesus was a bad teacher, and didn't speak clearly?", is an emotional straw man.

Jesus Christ is our God and saviour Amen

22 years în when he started to reign. And 42 is the year of his Family's reign.

@alexmateigaming7185

27 күн бұрын

So no contradiction

@IvoryQirat

26 күн бұрын

@@alexmateigaming7185 You just fabricated a reason. The subject is Ahaziah and the pronoun connects the subject is singular in both verses. Additionally, the temporal context is exactly the same.

The Bible doesn’t have contradictions. This is lacking context

@abdulbasitmehmood755

26 күн бұрын

Seriously? Lack of context created 20 years difference in the age of the same person for the same event? Please feel free to give the context to explain how a person was 22 and 42 at exactly the same time.

@Vittorio717

26 күн бұрын

​@@abdulbasitmehmood755 Ahaziah was part of two dynasties He was the bloodline of David, whose dynasty began more than 150 years earlier, but he was also a son of the dynasty of Omri, whose first full year began 42 years earlier, in 884 B.C. The age of 22 year from 2 Kings 8:26 relates to his physical age when he began to reign while the age of 42 from 2 Chronicles 22:2 relates to the age of the dynasty of Omri, of which Ahaziah was part of. You can calculate like this: Omri 6 years (as king over all the house of Israel) + Ahab 22 years + Ahaziah (Ahab son) 2 years + Jehoram (Ahab son) 12 years + = 42 Thus, there is no contradiction between these 2 verses.

@rrqtko8319

26 күн бұрын

​@@Vittorio717care to also explain how Joseph the husbad of Mary had got two fathers Jacob and Heli

@nhlakaniphokunene4881

26 күн бұрын

leave this funda alone ma sosha

@JedSorby

26 күн бұрын

@@rrqtko8319 I assume you're taking those names from the Matthew and Luke Genealogies. Many claim this is evidence of contradiction, but most Biblical scholars believe that Luke was recording Mary's genealogy (as the only blood relation to Jesus, apart from His brothers and sisters), and Matthew was recording Joseph's (as was the custom to record family based on the paternal descent).

"Tell me you dont know anything abt the bible without telling me" How do you honestly speak on a topic like that without proper information? The bible was never gods direct words, its gods word written and told by fallible humans. There are literally 4 different evangelien, that all depict the same exact story, although with minor differences, written by different people during different time. The bible itself is a collection of books, of humans, that had experiences with god, experienced him in any way. In the bible there are a few noteable written versions of it, by people such as the jawhists or priests. With the bible being write downs of events re-told by humans and passed down over ages, those ofc changed slightly. In short, the bible only also came to be because people realised, if everyone just re-told the story again and again it would end up changing slightly, since thats just how humans tell things to others. (There are literal kids games that explore this, where one person in the line whispers smth into someones ear, and they keep passing it down to the last person, and its almost certain to not be the same thing) Again, with the bible being gods word written or told by the fallible human, those change depending on circumstances. For example, in the Jawhists writings, god was portrayed really human like. He was given emotions, like acting out of anger, or other humanly emotions, in it, god created humans as his own picture. This was written during times of prosper, humans did not need god as much, so they imagined him as more of an even replica of humans. Now for the priestly scriptures. In it, god is almighty, distant. He is the god there that can fix anything with a snap of his fingers. In their version of the creation story, basics stay the same, but god creates humans out of dust and mud, and gives them live. Said scripture was written during times of grief, during a great exile. What humans wanted was an almighty god, they could look up to, not a human like god. Coming with all that to a close, theres also over 40 ways to depict/understand parts of the bible in the literary dimension. Historical dimensions also play a big part in that. Yk, maybe try researching about what you proceed to call wrong or bad in any way. It does not hurt anyone to do this. You should never argue on something you barely know about, here I am, arguing about the bibles understanding which was taught to me quiet extensively. But I am not gonna make any assumptions about any other Holy scripture such as the Qu'ran or anything, because I dont know a lot about it. However, you are arguing against the bible, with the video title already telling me you know barely anything about it. But you do know a lot about the belief you support. While supporting your beliefs is not wrong, I dont see why we need to attack other beliefs. And if you do have to argue on them, make sure you at least understand what you are arguing against, and not only understand what you support.

Why does the bible have Contradictions

@ElDogeRenacido

27 күн бұрын

That's not a contradiction, fool. The Bible does not work with butchering verses and presenting them as "evidence of a contradiction" Read everything between 2 Kings and Chronicles then.

@Jericho11894

27 күн бұрын

Not really. Islam has quite the contradictions itself. Used to be agnostic, found Christianity, saw and detested Islam when I studied it. Quite a horrible warlike pedophilia text.

@AyubHassan07

26 күн бұрын

@@Jericho11894 That means you never studied it. Pedophillia isn't allowed and it is looked down upon. That's the kind of stuff priests do. Can't help you if you don't know how to read.

@SymeonStar-Eyes

26 күн бұрын

@@AyubHassan07 are you forgetting Aisha? Or do you reject Sahih Muslim?

@AyubHassan07

25 күн бұрын

@@SymeonStar-Eyes Let me explain it. The prophet married Aisha in NAME to strengthen his bond with her father. However he never slept with her and never had a child with her. The prophet wouldn't do that. He just married her for the alliance.

JESUS CHRIST IS THE LORD OF LORDS ❤🎉

@RisingofAlkebulan

28 күн бұрын

Why does the Bible have Contradictions?

@melechbansode8381

28 күн бұрын

@@RisingofAlkebulan the quran says believe in the people who read the GOSPEL or believe what is written in the GOSPEL, revert to Christianity ✝️🙏🏻. Stop believing in paganism JESUS CHRIST IS THE ONLY TRUE GOD ❤️

@RisingofAlkebulan

28 күн бұрын

Meaning Bible and Quran is written by human, so it's a book like any other book.... how can I put and risk my life over some ideologies of people without any other proof besides the Bible only

@RisingofAlkebulan

28 күн бұрын

I don't believe in the Bible , I don't believe in the Quran also. I follow Alkebulan(African) Indigenous Spirituality. Which was my ancestors way of communicating with the Creator and spiritual entities.

@melechbansode8381

28 күн бұрын

@@RisingofAlkebulan still part ways from paganism 💯 Prayers to you 🙏🏻✝️

The bible doesn't have exterior evidence that proves that the scriptures are true except what the bible says its true which is not Where is Jesus Christs extended family where is Davids or Adams or even Mose's descendents You can't tell me a white man can give birth to a black person, never. You can't divide a whole river or ocean into two and then have no children that posses the same if not greater gifts impossible Isipho siyadlulela

@dannyfernandez1534

25 күн бұрын

🤣when you don't know what you're talking about and you show it in the comment section.

Nope read the books. He co rules with his sick father until he dies and is formally anointed at 42.

The Bible is not a word of God period!

@LeoDenzelJr

27 күн бұрын

Quran is word of mohammad.. The goat fcker

The Standard Narrative in quran has Holes