Beyond Nu Metal: How Deftones Created WHITE PONY

Deftones may have come up during the nu metal explosion of the later 90s, but they always stood apart. "My Own Summer" and "Be Quiet and Drive" contrasted with Limp Bizkit's "Nookie" or "Last Resort" by Papa Roach. While they loved Faith No More and Primus as much as their contemporaries, their sound was just as indebted to the Smashing Pumpkins, Jawbox and even The Smiths. Alongside this was a fierce intelligence and experimental streak that further separated them from the pack. And this came fully to the fore with their third album, 2000’s White Pony. Led by the album’s only true single “Change (in the House of Flies)”, followed up by "Back to School" and "Digital Bath," it took heavy music and Deftones into wholly new territory. Though their fanbase didn’t get it straight away, it would be their defining work. But how did Deftones go beyond nu metal? This is the story of White Pony.
#Deftones #WhitePony #Documentary
Soundtrack:
Luar - Clouds ( / luarbeats )
Silent Partner - Righteous
Density & Time - Under the Rug
I Think I Can Help You - The Six Realms
pATCHES - Because For Everything There is Someone
Luar - Anchor ( / luarbeats )
00:00 Introduction
01:05 The Beginning of Deftones & Nu Metal
04:32 The Recording of White Pony
09:45 The Recording of "Change (In The House of Flies)"
12:26 The Release of White Pony & "Back to School"
15:44 The Enduring Legacy of White Pony
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  • @TrashTheory
    @TrashTheory3 жыл бұрын

    So yeah, what's your favourite track from White Pony? Trash Theory playlists - Spotify: tinyurl.com/yxp32pjf Deezer: tinyurl.com/y2mdp8h2 Also if you want to help the channel out, here's my patreon link: patreon.com/trashtheory

  • @TheVolginator

    @TheVolginator

    3 жыл бұрын

    feiticeira is an incredibly bizarre journey. And Nick Diaz using it as a walk in song before battering people in his own bizarre way is a perfect synergy

  • @joelmonteiro1419

    @joelmonteiro1419

    3 жыл бұрын

    That's super hard to answer. I love the instrumental on RX Queen, but the whole album is stellar.

  • @DATA-qt3nb

    @DATA-qt3nb

    3 жыл бұрын

    Change,feiticeira,knife party and elite but I enjoy the entire album of course

  • @alexandranaughton7408

    @alexandranaughton7408

    3 жыл бұрын

    I love the whole album but I think "knife party" and "pink maggit" are my favorites

  • @Teejturtle

    @Teejturtle

    3 жыл бұрын

    Knife Party. I love the track. The lines "I can float here forever, In this room, We can't touch the floor" always hit a chord with me. I love Moreno's vocals. This video is great and seemed to have come at the perfect time of me nostalgically listening to their discography. Great vid as always.

  • @noneofyourbusiness1114
    @noneofyourbusiness11143 жыл бұрын

    The best thing about deftones is every fan has a different favorite album and I think thats a testament to how good they are.

  • @jarlwhiterun7478

    @jarlwhiterun7478

    Жыл бұрын

    Versatile as hell, just like Mastodon and Radiohead.

  • @Proactionguy
    @Proactionguy2 жыл бұрын

    what chino said at 17:50 was insanely accurate. their music is ever so timeless and their sound is still so unique after so many years. truly one of the most beautiful bands i've ever seen

  • @awnaur0no919

    @awnaur0no919

    Жыл бұрын

    they sound timeless cuz, 4 sum reason, tha concept of r&b-trip hop-alt metal never caight on after numetal fell off & tha mainstream began promoting emo pop punk

  • @CYB3R2K

    @CYB3R2K

    Жыл бұрын

    The were nu metal though. Him denying it makes him look a bit foolish

  • @twizzy8783

    @twizzy8783

    3 ай бұрын

    @@CYB3R2K wrong

  • @NeedITDeathHeated
    @NeedITDeathHeated3 жыл бұрын

    I can't believe I've slept on Deftones for this long. I've always known the name but never taken the plunge into their discography. White Pony is phenomenal surely, and at least now I get to experience this beautiful catalogue of a group of artist's work. Better late than never, and thank fuck for Deftones.

  • @W0LF2612

    @W0LF2612

    2 жыл бұрын

    same. I'm so glad I've found em.

  • @blackspring3207

    @blackspring3207

    2 жыл бұрын

    Welcome! I would say that the three album cycle of Around the Fur, white pony, and self-titled is the golden standard

  • @SuperCabrito14

    @SuperCabrito14

    2 жыл бұрын

    Same! Change had been one of my favorite songs for years but I never bothered to dig deeper into the band until recently

  • @Ovie_1

    @Ovie_1

    2 жыл бұрын

    Ditto.

  • @sebs7676

    @sebs7676

    Жыл бұрын

    Welcome to the club guys. I grew up w the dtones but I stopped listening to them for a few years. I've just recently started listening to them, and still cant believe hiw good these guys are. If I would have just discovered them recently, they would definitely be my favorite band. RIP Chi 🌼

  • @vincecerreto7851
    @vincecerreto78513 жыл бұрын

    When you said “ Still, Deftones ride on” I whispered “ Fuck yea.” to myself.

  • @tracystephens5014

    @tracystephens5014

    2 жыл бұрын

    I said "fuck yeah" 3 times during this video & that was one of'em.

  • @hudu
    @hudu3 жыл бұрын

    If you ever want to get into a fight in Sacramento, you can say one of two things: 1) The Lakers won the 2002 Western Conference finals fair and square 2) The Deftones are a nu-metal band.

  • @ShodansServer

    @ShodansServer

    3 жыл бұрын

    LMAO

  • @plusaffectueux

    @plusaffectueux

    3 жыл бұрын

    Accurate

  • @johnsmith-so5do

    @johnsmith-so5do

    3 жыл бұрын

    hudu , I’m from LA so true man

  • @hrishavhrick2888

    @hrishavhrick2888

    3 жыл бұрын

    heck yes, it makes me mad when people yell theyre nu meta;. They are too progressive and creative for nu metal. theyre alternative and progressive metal

  • @austintrousdale2397

    @austintrousdale2397

    3 жыл бұрын

    Please, don’t make me angry. You wouldn’t like me when I’m angry. 😜

  • @Duffington
    @Duffington3 жыл бұрын

    haven’t got a bad album in their discography. can’t wait for the new album later this month

  • @juvedoo99

    @juvedoo99

    3 жыл бұрын

    I think Deftones are really smart in the regard that they have kept their band identity and overall sound pretty consistent and their experimentation has been just enough to keep people interested and not turn the fan base off. I thinks that's one of the reasons why they've been able to put out amazing albums for 20+ years and stay relevant.

  • @Duffington

    @Duffington

    3 жыл бұрын

    K&M i agree. never been scared to experiment but always staying true to the “deftones” sound. i think you can even see that in their newest single, really excites me for the new album

  • @sagddesign78

    @sagddesign78

    3 жыл бұрын

    Gore was terrible.

  • @psykoupathic4225

    @psykoupathic4225

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@sagddesign78 naw bruh, it takes some listening to get used to it. I didnt like it either at first but it eventually grew on me. Lets be real though, the earlier albums for any band are always the best. Thats just the reality of music. But i still think Gore was a good album.

  • @liammcnicholas918

    @liammcnicholas918

    3 жыл бұрын

    Pink Cellphone

  • @ClikcerProductions
    @ClikcerProductions3 жыл бұрын

    I think Deftones are definitely one of those bands that falls into the level of influence where "Your favourite bands favourite band" really applies well

  • @pawepiotrowski2180
    @pawepiotrowski21803 жыл бұрын

    Chino Moreno's vocals are one of the best things that has happened to music in recent years

  • @Mr061099
    @Mr0610993 жыл бұрын

    When you're an angsty 14 year old White Pony completely shakes your life up, I know it did to me.

  • @reyultra9247

    @reyultra9247

    3 жыл бұрын

    Whole world looked different after That

  • @miserirken

    @miserirken

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah it changed my perspective on music completely for sure, and with it, it changed my whole view on, well, everything.

  • @defgmx

    @defgmx

    3 жыл бұрын

    I discovered White Pony at this age too man! 9th grade!

  • @ethanride3203

    @ethanride3203

    3 жыл бұрын

    Same

  • @RichRobinson

    @RichRobinson

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yo! Haha

  • @chairsmissing
    @chairsmissing3 жыл бұрын

    You haven't skipped a single beat on WP's backstory. From a longtime Deftones fan, thanks for spreading the good word on this phenomenal ever-modern band.

  • @Li_Tobler

    @Li_Tobler

    3 жыл бұрын

    Exactly! I was so happy to see that this channel (notable for the top-notch production and complex, deep research) acknowledged my all-time favorite band and was kind and awesome enough to make a video on them! :) I haven't enjoyed a youtube vid that much in a veeery long time 🤍

  • @MatthewJohnHayden

    @MatthewJohnHayden

    Жыл бұрын

    I couldn't agree more with your "ever-modern" description. As decades slide by Deftones keep releasing albums that feel fresh overall. I thought bits of Diamond Eyes got a bit recycling-ish, but I felt no such vibes on Koi No Yokan, Gore or Ohms, in fact Gore and Ohms really feel to me like they explore wholly new terrains, separate from all the records before and separate even from each other.

  • @chairsmissing

    @chairsmissing

    Жыл бұрын

    @@MatthewJohnHayden I gotta be honest, Ohms to me feels like a regression especially when compared to Gore. I really wanted them to build on the groundwork they laid on with Gore, yet they went back-to-basics heavy with Ohms which I found pretty uninteresting. Though I like the album just fine, it's my least favorite Deftones one.

  • @koreyseeba3835
    @koreyseeba3835 Жыл бұрын

    I will never forget getting "White Pony" on its release day. Getting to the record store, seeing the display and holding it in my hand, handing over the cash and quickly driving home! I put the headphones on, cranked it up and laid there for hours just letting it repeat. To this day its still in my top three albums of all time. That album isnt just music its a fucking experience and a masterpiece at that. This band and that album have stood the test of the last 23yrs and they never dissapoint. While I like Limp Bizkit and P-Roach no doubt they wish they could write a album like this that will influence bands for decades to come.

  • @Steelflight773

    @Steelflight773

    25 күн бұрын

    I drove to the mall on my one hour lunch break to buy the CD back then. Awesome album still!

  • @asmodir_7932
    @asmodir_79322 жыл бұрын

    My dad tells me the best part about Deftones is that they have a song for whatever mood your in, and for every type of person, at least one song. I'm so glad my dad showed me Deftones.

  • @BlueZirnitra

    @BlueZirnitra

    Жыл бұрын

    Cool dad

  • @Glaamdring
    @Glaamdring3 жыл бұрын

    "Digital Bath" is definitely the best track on the album imo. The Deftones were easily my favorite band from like 7th - 9th grade before I got into heavier metal and then eventually into other genres entirely. They were one of the first bands I ever saw live-along with Primus and Metallica (not at the same show, I just can't remember which band I saw first). I did end up meeting Chino at a restaurant around the corner from my apartment in Manhattan. He was a nice guy and introduced me to the guy he was sitting with-Deftones' new bassist as Chi had died a couple years prior.

  • @99bimmer

    @99bimmer

    3 жыл бұрын

    I agree

  • @flavorytub

    @flavorytub

    3 жыл бұрын

    as much as I love digital bath my favorite will always be Korea that one is just so fucking awesome literally I was in awe the first time I heard it

  • @99bimmer

    @99bimmer

    3 жыл бұрын

    I got to meet them in Portland, Maine back in 98 after a show at the State Theater. It was cold as shit so there were like 4 of us out there. They all autographed my Adrenaline CD, and were cool as fuck. I lost that CD when my car got towed. Also, Frank gave me a beer. 18 year old me thought that was wicked cool

  • @bendulum

    @bendulum

    3 жыл бұрын

    Have to agree

  • @tomfurstyfield

    @tomfurstyfield

    3 жыл бұрын

    The beat on Digital Bath is insane, sounds quite simple but it's not

  • @aaronmadrigal4626
    @aaronmadrigal46263 жыл бұрын

    WHAT SCOTT WAS ON RX QUEEN THATS SOOOOO LEGENDARY

  • @firzenmg

    @firzenmg

    3 жыл бұрын

    lmao just found that out too

  • @billrobertjoe

    @billrobertjoe

    3 жыл бұрын

    hi daron

  • @OnPointFirearms

    @OnPointFirearms

    2 жыл бұрын

    I had no idea.

  • @asterginete3812
    @asterginete38123 жыл бұрын

    White Pony and Around the Fur are just amazing albums. Deftones has this loud but calming feel in their sound. I’m not sure if I can describe it correctly, but I always play their music when I want to relax.

  • @Adamas_83
    @Adamas_833 жыл бұрын

    Deftones will forever be their own category of music. One of the very few bands respected even by those who don't care for their sound. They've always been true to their own style, non-apologetically and it's the reason they have stood the test of time. Change is my favorite song on the album; very strong memories attached to that track.

  • @lawnshark025
    @lawnshark0253 жыл бұрын

    A couple other bands that influenced the album: Hum and Helmet. Knife Prty’s chord progression is very clearly inspired by Hum’s Little Dipper. Deftones took this chord progression and turned into something more fast paced and more rhythmically intricate. Chino has talked about how much You’d Prefer an Astronaut has influenced Deftones guitar tone. Helmet’s influence is seen in the lyrics to Korea, where the chorus lines “work your pitch” and “carve your niche” were originally in Helmet’s song Tic, off of Betty.

  • @hunterdavis3003

    @hunterdavis3003

    3 жыл бұрын

    Have you heard pig destroyers cover of in the meantime? Love helmet

  • @lawnshark025

    @lawnshark025

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@hunterdavis3003 I haven't, I'll check it out. If you haven't, check out Deftones cover of Sinatra

  • @hunterdavis3003

    @hunterdavis3003

    3 жыл бұрын

    lawnshark025 too weird I’m literally listening to their covers now?!? The Cocteau twins and morrissey covers are so SICK! Sinatra’s up next!

  • @andrefaria2921

    @andrefaria2921

    3 жыл бұрын

    Quicksand too!

  • @chairsmissing

    @chairsmissing

    3 жыл бұрын

    That zebra cover defo influenced WP's interpretation too.

  • @daviddutton9723
    @daviddutton97233 жыл бұрын

    I still remember listening to White Pony for the first time. I actually wasn't the hugest Deftones fan and most of the people in my town said that the album was terrible. I had an instant connection with it though, and listened to it over and over. I still listen to it a few times every year to this day

  • @paulbladder2

    @paulbladder2

    3 жыл бұрын

    I still listen to it a few times every day after having found it a year ago

  • @chikish

    @chikish

    3 жыл бұрын

    That is pretty much the exact same experience I had with the band and with that album in particular. Funny how that works.

  • @ArpeggioPegasusMusic

    @ArpeggioPegasusMusic

    3 жыл бұрын

    Who the fuck thinks White Pony is terrible though

  • @RobCamp-rmc_0

    @RobCamp-rmc_0

    3 жыл бұрын

    Crøst Dærgön turbodopes with lousy taste, that’s who

  • @520angling5

    @520angling5

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ArpeggioPegasusMusic kids who were expecting Nu metal

  • @sagan1976
    @sagan19763 жыл бұрын

    Korea! One of my favorite moments is after Chino says “Check the claws...” and Frank’s scratches are heard hovering the pounding drums, bass and guitars.

  • @RobCamp-rmc_0

    @RobCamp-rmc_0

    3 жыл бұрын

    Bruno Santos goddamn I have such a hard time choosing a favorite track, and you bring that up. And the menace in Chino’s delivery of “carve your niche”.

  • @odralebazerimar9084

    @odralebazerimar9084

    3 жыл бұрын

    Those scratches aren't coming from Frank. It's coming from Chino. He does it live sometimes

  • @Zander_Schilling

    @Zander_Schilling

    2 жыл бұрын

    Korea is still one of the heaviest tracks I've listened to that doesn't fall into normal metal cliches

  • @shape816
    @shape8163 жыл бұрын

    Digital Bath. Greatest drum sound ever on a rock record. Can’t wait to hear what they do with Terry Date back at the helm.

  • @Jackalope40

    @Jackalope40

    3 жыл бұрын

    That Tama bell-brass snare is iconic. And it was a rental! The video about it is on KZread.

  • @dcrea9416

    @dcrea9416

    2 жыл бұрын

    Abe for sure has a style that is slick and cool. He is not a super technical player, but I love the feel he puts into their songs.

  • @padawansound6423
    @padawansound64233 жыл бұрын

    "Talent and cocaine." Wow, that was a short video.

  • @mattnoonan6519

    @mattnoonan6519

    3 жыл бұрын

    😂😂😂😂

  • @TReaperMusic

    @TReaperMusic

    3 жыл бұрын

    Lol I need some coke then

  • @arpitdas4263

    @arpitdas4263

    3 жыл бұрын

    Don't forget Tony Hawk Pro Skater

  • @dk.1dk77

    @dk.1dk77

    3 жыл бұрын

    Maybe a lot of drugs but no talent

  • @padawansound6423

    @padawansound6423

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@dk.1dk77 Spicy take there, bucko

  • @100011101011
    @1000111010113 жыл бұрын

    They probably like the Smiths, but I can't really hear it. When it comes to melody Chino is so clearly influenced by Duran Duran and Sade.

  • @DigitalBath306

    @DigitalBath306

    3 жыл бұрын

    listen to "hum-youd prefer an astronaut" , thats the sound deftones kinda ripped off for white pony, even the white pony cover is a nod to that album knife party is little dipper just played faster no hate tho, deftones is my fav band ever

  • @TheDominicProject

    @TheDominicProject

    3 жыл бұрын

    consequently Deftones did a great cover of 'Please please Please let me get what i want'

  • @shawnyewest3966

    @shawnyewest3966

    3 жыл бұрын

    They do great covers of " please let me get what I want" and " asleep"

  • @rhino202

    @rhino202

    3 жыл бұрын

    No ordinary love cover as well

  • @TheManWithNoName686

    @TheManWithNoName686

    3 жыл бұрын

    There's a few lyrical nods to Smiths songs on White Pony.

  • @kyleejohnson8364
    @kyleejohnson83643 жыл бұрын

    i’m deadass in tears, i had no clue that scott was in rx queen.

  • @Ottophil

    @Ottophil

    2 жыл бұрын

    I know he seemed like more of a street drug fan.

  • @krinque
    @krinque Жыл бұрын

    Hot take : Deftones deserved Nirvana hype

  • @doom-generation4109
    @doom-generation41093 жыл бұрын

    Ah, I've found my people. Still a mind-blowingly great album.

  • @mattnoonan6519

    @mattnoonan6519

    3 жыл бұрын

    20 years and it is still in my consistent rotation of albums.

  • @tangerinesrock90038
    @tangerinesrock900383 жыл бұрын

    Grew up in central California in the late 90s early 2000s Deftones was such a huge part of that they looked like us they talked like us and played music so original and with such feeling. White Pony is a true part of my youth.

  • @iaraespinoza4228

    @iaraespinoza4228

    Жыл бұрын

    so beautiful, thank you for sharing this 💜

  • @LK-yn9xv
    @LK-yn9xv2 жыл бұрын

    I graduated HS in ‘99 and Deftones were a main staple in my music diet. I’ve seen them in concert more than any other band… I’m glad they never went as mainstream as LB or LP. The fans they’ve gained in almost 30 years is a testament to their never-ending talent. 🥰❤️

  • @brendanthebdog
    @brendanthebdog3 жыл бұрын

    Korea, favorite song on the album. It was too heavy to be a mainstream single, but I'm still transfixed by it. White Pony is why I became a musician.

  • @gemgh420
    @gemgh4203 жыл бұрын

    this was one of the first 'heavy' albums I heard and I found Knife Party genuinely frightening. love it to this day.

  • @discod
    @discod3 жыл бұрын

    I had all of their albums, and being from Sacramento myself, I felt kind of protective of them, if that makes sense. Knife Party was my fave from White Pony.

  • @williambryantofficial

    @williambryantofficial

    3 жыл бұрын

    Same!

  • @boymeetstaco8733

    @boymeetstaco8733

    2 жыл бұрын

    Knife party and Korea!

  • @kellye2013
    @kellye20133 жыл бұрын

    This is a MUST HAVE album for any collection worth a damn

  • @thevoid99

    @thevoid99

    3 жыл бұрын

    agreed. it still holds up and it is an undisputed classic. i prefer the first edition as it just felt right and it was already perfect.

  • @junksatellite
    @junksatellite2 жыл бұрын

    passenger is still one of my most favorite songs to exist. i've listened to it, easily, thousands of times and i'm still not sick of it. still not sick of ANYTHING by deftones. they're timeless.

  • @YggStudio
    @YggStudio3 жыл бұрын

    Just learned about Rolo Tomassi from this video, and that is some good stuff!

  • @genexallybeardman

    @genexallybeardman

    3 жыл бұрын

    Man its wierd seeing people you're subbed too show up in comments

  • @fraggle200

    @fraggle200

    3 жыл бұрын

    Same

  • @thc_freebaser

    @thc_freebaser

    3 жыл бұрын

    such a good band

  • @miserirken

    @miserirken

    3 жыл бұрын

    Rolo Tomassi released the only album that i consider better than Daughters' You Won't Get What You Want in 2018. Time Will Die and Love Will Bury It is a piece of art.

  • @MetalRocksMe.

    @MetalRocksMe.

    3 жыл бұрын

    I saw rolo Tomassi live but I just couldn’t get into them.

  • @jarackObiden
    @jarackObiden3 жыл бұрын

    The fact that there is a Kool Keith connection to this album makes me love it even more.

  • @kidpresentable

    @kidpresentable

    3 жыл бұрын

    There's some Kool Keith lyrics Chino lifted in "Back To School" as well.

  • @jarackObiden

    @jarackObiden

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@kidpresentable Nice

  • @damionchrist

    @damionchrist

    3 жыл бұрын

    I'll be the man, watch your backpack pens and pencils

  • @lord-REDACTED-
    @lord-REDACTED-3 жыл бұрын

    I can at any point in the day, in whatever mood I'm in, listen to deftones. Even to this day. I first really heard recognized them because a girl introduced me to the music. I had heard change before but never really sought out their band. I owe my love of deftones to Kristin. Where ever you are. I hope your happy and loved.

  • @semraacar8626
    @semraacar86263 жыл бұрын

    i used to mostly listen to deathcore metal but deftones has such a heavy tune while having softer parts too it’s so good i don’t know if i can finds anyone with the same sound

  • @Skungalunga
    @Skungalunga3 жыл бұрын

    Easy "Deftones ft. Maynard - Passenger"

  • @emie1170

    @emie1170

    3 жыл бұрын

    mjk is a blad babe

  • @kyleolin3566

    @kyleolin3566

    3 жыл бұрын

    My favourite Deftones’ song.

  • @netghosta

    @netghosta

    3 жыл бұрын

    i sometimes still get some chills when I listen to it... amazing vocal duo, big metal riffs, and abe's subtle but wicked drumming...

  • @gisli12

    @gisli12

    3 жыл бұрын

    Also knife party

  • @whatistau

    @whatistau

    3 жыл бұрын

    yeah, a masterpiece. it has somewhat strong Lynch - Kar wai vibes to it

  • @FaithFallRepentGraceRepeat
    @FaithFallRepentGraceRepeat3 жыл бұрын

    I miss the PacMan inspired White Pony game that was on the cd when you put it in your computer. 🤘🏾

  • @TheJinjo75

    @TheJinjo75

    3 жыл бұрын

    The Enhanced CDs of the 90's. I still have a few of them.

  • @miserirken

    @miserirken

    3 жыл бұрын

    To this day there are people who bought that CD yet don't know this.

  • @kyleolin3566

    @kyleolin3566

    3 жыл бұрын

    I should boot that up. Been a few years!

  • @jonniecutlet7925

    @jonniecutlet7925

    3 жыл бұрын

    if i can remember it just a flash file in a .SWF format...wouldnt be hard to copy it off the disk and put it online somewhere to live for future generations to enjoy when fortnite is down

  • @dandel1985

    @dandel1985

    3 жыл бұрын

    with the MIDI "my own summer" melody! lmao

  • @pixelcultmedia4252
    @pixelcultmedia42523 жыл бұрын

    I had to cut your video short. "Their fanbase" got it immediately. It was the nu-metal swarm that followed Around the Fur that was confused by White Pony.

  • @dcrea9416

    @dcrea9416

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, they started playing Change a week or two on the radio before the actual release of White Pony. I felt an instant gravitation towards it and bought the record right when it came out and devoured it.

  • @szymondudzinski6661
    @szymondudzinski66613 жыл бұрын

    i read somewhere that deftones are "the radiohead of metal" and I never agreed more

  • @psykoupathic4225
    @psykoupathic42253 жыл бұрын

    I still remember how i even discovered Deftones, it was a little over a year ago and i was on my way to the library to go do homework after class, and on the way there i was listening to Slipknot's WANYK album considering it had recently come out. I had just finished the last song on the album when i got on the elevator and the randomizer on spotify threw me My Own Summer. After that day i got so into their music that i cant even go a week without listening to any of their albums. Their music just entangles what the 90s were perfectly and how teenagers were like back then. Im only 21 so i couldnt enjoy the 90s how many other people did. But their music, especially the Around the Fur album just gives me that nostalgic feel like if i was actually a teenager during the 90s. Its hard to explain. But anyways, its safe to say that im extremely excited for their new album. And for my White Pony IPA's to come in the mail 🤝

  • @angeljimenez-hc4eu

    @angeljimenez-hc4eu

    2 жыл бұрын

    Lol I relate to you so much. That’s actually how I am getting into alot of new bands, through Spotify. I was born in 99’ so didn’t experience the 90’s either sadly.

  • @josefk.122

    @josefk.122

    Жыл бұрын

    I was a teen in the 90’s and this album probably more than any other captures that time entirely

  • @AlextheBant
    @AlextheBant3 жыл бұрын

    Deftones has my eternal respect. They were a huge influence on me musically. And i love the philosophy they had in choosing longevity and creative integrity over instant fame and sales.

  • @strategic_amber_reservoir
    @strategic_amber_reservoir3 жыл бұрын

    They might not like having Back to School as the first track, but it provides a great thematic circle for the album. I felt like it made the last track and the whole album that much more mythic.

  • @miahthorpatrick1013

    @miahthorpatrick1013

    2 жыл бұрын

    I agree. I don't get the hate for Back to School. While it is the band`s dated song, it was a much better attempt to be rap metal than their contemporaries.

  • @surj138
    @surj1383 жыл бұрын

    I'll never forget the first time I saw Deftones in concert. It was Halloween night of 2000 and they were touring for White Pony, and he came out on stage wearing a Jheri curl wig 🤣🤣 At one point between songs, Chino was talking to the crowd and someone yelled "Give me your ring!" He answered, "My ring? Fred Durst gave me this ring". Then he said, "Fuck it", slipped it off his finger and tossed it into the crowd. I've lost count how many times I've seen them since... must be 8 or 9 times, they're my hands-down favorite. Even got to meet and shake Chino's hand once when I ended up standing right behind him in the ticket line for a Team Sleep show. I didn't expect him to be so tall.. I'm 5'11" and he dwarfed me lol

  • @junkyardwillie8320

    @junkyardwillie8320

    3 жыл бұрын

    What? Really? I’ve always heard people say he was more like 5 9/10. Interesting. I never really pictured him as a taller guy either

  • @junkyardwillie8320

    @junkyardwillie8320

    3 жыл бұрын

    Ah. Maybe they got 5 9 from a google search, but other pictures make it look like 6 foot, maybe 6 1. Dumb google

  • @surj138

    @surj138

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@junkyardwillie8320 yeah that's what I figured for years, too... 5'9" or so. I remember watching Deftones play "Be Quiet and Drive" live on Late Night with Conan O'Brien and Chino looked small next to him, but later learned that Conan is actually 6'4", so I guess that's why he looked so short in comparison. But yeah, Chino stood a good couple inches over me when I met him. I really didn't think it was him at first because of how tall he was.

  • @arjunnijhawan7231

    @arjunnijhawan7231

    3 жыл бұрын

    What were Team Sleep like live? Just heard their album for the first time in a while.

  • @surj138

    @surj138

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@arjunnijhawan7231 it was actually a really good show. Sound engineering was really good and clear, and it was in a much smaller venue than you'd see Deftones play in... the place probably had a 300 person capacity, tops.

  • @apenvose
    @apenvose3 жыл бұрын

    Being a Tool fan, the song passenger really got be into Deftones. Great video!

  • @Brandon84J
    @Brandon84J2 жыл бұрын

    I learned how to skateboard while listening to Around the Fur, so I love the heaviness of that album, there's a lot of memories in that one, but I immediately loved White Pony because I love melodic music. WP is melodic, and heavy, and to this day, because Tool and APC are my favorite bands, I absolutely loved Passenger. Digital Bath is the second best record on that album, and I'm so glad I got to live through those years as a teenager. I'm still... to this day, in love with White Pony

  • @shockomega

    @shockomega

    Жыл бұрын

    Check out Porcupine Tree, they have a great melodic edge as well.

  • @Brandon84J

    @Brandon84J

    Жыл бұрын

    @@shockomega Oh yeah, absolutely. I love Porcupine Tree. I forget about them from time to time, but I love everything I've heard from them

  • @joshhale9355
    @joshhale93553 жыл бұрын

    Knife Party was the first Deftones song I ever heard. It was love at first listen. White Pony is legitimately one of the best and most complete-package albums in modern history. They really made something ahead of its time.

  • @k_a_y_l_e_e
    @k_a_y_l_e_e3 жыл бұрын

    i have a 976-EVIL tattoo on my left forearm. i will never not love this band.

  • @WILD__THINGS

    @WILD__THINGS

    3 жыл бұрын

    What is the tattoo? Just the song title?

  • @blackspring3207

    @blackspring3207

    3 жыл бұрын

    Tasteful song choice. A very dreamy love song from diamond eyes.

  • @dusthymn8187

    @dusthymn8187

    3 жыл бұрын

    Nice! I have the white pony on my arm

  • @yzwme586

    @yzwme586

    3 жыл бұрын

    I always say if I ever get a tattoo my first one will be Deftones related. Fav band by far

  • @chaimatchaluvv333

    @chaimatchaluvv333

    3 жыл бұрын

    You should check out the movie of the same name. Especially if you like campy 80’s horror cult movies !

  • @DukesMusic84
    @DukesMusic843 жыл бұрын

    Didn't realize this record would be so influential all these years later. Kind of forgot them after high school, but yeah Deftones rocked.

  • @thatsnodildo1974
    @thatsnodildo19743 жыл бұрын

    Nothing gets me more nostalgic than be quiet and drive (far away) open rift.

  • @JosephH206
    @JosephH2063 жыл бұрын

    Queen of the Damned bathtube scene with Change in background sound, oh man, its simply beautiful and powerful !

  • @miahthorpatrick1013

    @miahthorpatrick1013

    2 жыл бұрын

    That's a pretty cool reference point for Change! Even though Queen of the Damned had more to do with KoRn than Deftones....

  • @ShodansServer
    @ShodansServer3 жыл бұрын

    THANK YOU!!! SO MUCH!!! FOR COVERING THIS!!! One of my favorite albums from one of my favorite bands, I feel like Deftones gets written off with a lot of the nu-metal from the early 2000s but they are so, so different. Thanks for doing them justice!!!

  • @FlamingGojira24
    @FlamingGojira243 жыл бұрын

    Passenger has to be my favorite track.

  • @benjaminkemper5876
    @benjaminkemper58763 жыл бұрын

    Wow, you did an amazing job compiling alot of information that I didnt know and creating a little snapshot of the era. Really great work. Subbed.

  • @Kravven
    @Kravven3 жыл бұрын

    Amazing video dude . Thank you for this ! It was and still going to be my favourite band ever . I respect them and I admire them and I've gone through alot with their music in my heart and ears .

  • @3358records
    @3358records3 жыл бұрын

    It seems like their label, Maverick, were trying too hard to have influence on many of their bands at the time. Maverick were Muse's American label at that time, and tried to do the same to Muse for their album Origin of Symmetry and in particular the track Plug In Baby, telling them to re-record the track without falsetto and tone down the record as a whole. Maverick did not consider Bellamy's vocals radio-friendly. The band refused and left Maverick; consequently the album was not released in the US until September 2005 instead of 2001 when it saw release everywhere else. The album peaked at number 3 in the UK, with Plug In Baby reaching number 11 in the charts and becoming a fan favorite worldwide.

  • @3358records

    @3358records

    3 жыл бұрын

    Also, Muse are huge Deftones fans. They play the riffs from Headup, My Own Summer, and Bored during shows sometimes.

  • @Esrom_music

    @Esrom_music

    3 жыл бұрын

    Great detail

  • @liammcnicholas918

    @liammcnicholas918

    3 жыл бұрын

    Darby Sagala Matt will sometimes play a Rage riff during the intro to Hysteria live and will close the song out with Back In Black

  • @Gabe511

    @Gabe511

    3 жыл бұрын

    I couldn’t even find their first two albums in stores until after Absolution dropped

  • @3358records

    @3358records

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Gabe511 Same, didn't discover them till Absolution and even after that couldn't find the other albums anyplace. Had to buy Showbiz on Ebay and found an import copy of Origin at Virgin Megastore during a trip to Chicago.

  • @_megwaters
    @_megwaters3 жыл бұрын

    I remember the first time I was introduced to White Pony, I was seeing a guy who was already in an abusive relationship a week before my eighteenth birthday and told me to listen to the album whilst we were opening up to each other at 11pm, for the whole of pink maggit I felt paralysed and couldn’t move as I just felt both his and my own emotions rush over me. Even though nothing came of this relationship, he’s still with his abuser sadly and we no longer talk to each other despite being in the same friendship group and often being in social situations together, every time I hear Pink Maggit and Knife Prty my mind still wonders to him as my body freezes up.

  • @ArpeggioPegasusMusic

    @ArpeggioPegasusMusic

    3 жыл бұрын

    You should try to reach out to him again. Honestly.

  • @_megwaters

    @_megwaters

    3 жыл бұрын

    Crøst Dærgön There was a point a few weeks ago where I saw him every day but we must have only spoken once or twice alone when not with our mutual friendship group. He seems to have taken lockdown pretty hard and although things with the girlfriend seem okay on the surface our friends have told me things have became even more manipulative.

  • @emie1170

    @emie1170

    3 жыл бұрын

    Megan seems to me that this abusive relationship is completely on his hands. No one can really do anything about it. I wish you the best and may music ease the way.

  • @Sorae90
    @Sorae903 жыл бұрын

    One of the most consistent bands out there. So psyched for Ohms!

  • @rccarothers
    @rccarothers3 жыл бұрын

    I love these guy's & am very nostalgic of their '90s & early 2000's but was pleasantly surprised seeing they just dropped a new video!!! Geat CONTENT!!! Very well done!!!

  • @Will-wx8kn
    @Will-wx8kn3 жыл бұрын

    That nod to Nothing at the end came out of nowhere. Such a great band.

  • @goonymiami
    @goonymiami3 жыл бұрын

    Although "Be quiet and drive" is my favorite song, I did not like "Around the fur" very much as a whole. White Pony is indeed something that grows on you, that you appreciate more after each play, like Tool or Pink Floyd.

  • @marquitos7400

    @marquitos7400

    3 жыл бұрын

    Unpopular Opinion:Around The Fur is their least good album.

  • @520angling5

    @520angling5

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@marquitos7400 wrong. Wrong. Wrong.

  • @Zander_Schilling

    @Zander_Schilling

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@marquitos7400 I kind of agree, though personally, and don't hate me for saying this, I haven't liked the new album as much either. Ceremony is good, but I just don't match with the music as much on this one.

  • @marquitos7400

    @marquitos7400

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Zander_Schilling After 9 months my opinion didnt change hahaha. I rlly like more Adrenaline and Saturday Night Wrist than Around The Fur. And I respect your opinion, I like Around The Fur, there are some great songs in it like My Own Summer,Rickets,Be Quiet and Drive,Lotion and MX, but I think its the worst record by them, but is still a good record. Deftones is awesome. EDIT: I rlly liked Ohms btw

  • @Zander_Schilling

    @Zander_Schilling

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@marquitos7400 I personally like White Pony and Diamond Eyes the best, and I like Ohms and Around the Fur the least, though Be Quiet and Drive and My Own Summer are two of my favorite songs in general.

  • @netghosta
    @netghosta3 жыл бұрын

    wow, I feel so thankful for this! this is a amazing piece of work! I have been following Deftones' music for so long now! this was very insightful and inspiring. so thanks again! and thank you Deftones!

  • @averagest
    @averagest3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for putting this together, always love to learn more about my favorite albums.

  • @inphanta
    @inphanta3 жыл бұрын

    You knocked it out of the park with this one. I actually prefer ‘Around the Fur’ overall and consider it an all time favourite, but ‘White Pony’ is an excellent record as well.

  • @joelmonteiro1419
    @joelmonteiro14193 жыл бұрын

    The best KZread music channel covering one of my favorite albums of all time. I still can't believe this is happening.

  • @DNAshurii
    @DNAshurii3 жыл бұрын

    White Pony changed my life - and is one of the driving forces to why I do music today. It’s an album I just can never get enough of, and keep learning more and more things with each listen. I love all the songs on the album, but my favourites probably would have to be - Digital Bath, Elite, Knife Prty, Korea & Change (In The House Of Flies)

  • @whatistau
    @whatistau3 жыл бұрын

    White Pony was the best thing that happened to me in my youth sonically. It gently grasped into a whole all my perceived aesthetics of that time.

  • @requiem5179
    @requiem51793 жыл бұрын

    Out of every band I love in any genre Deftones are the most essential. They are still my personal favorite. The only band I can think of from the 90s that got better with time. I'd argue the next 3 albums after White Pony are their most important.

  • @Spermwhales93
    @Spermwhales933 жыл бұрын

    You didn't mention this in the video, but White Pony was also a huge influence on Charlie Simpson. Fightstar's debut album has influence from White Pony all over it. The birth, death and rebirth of Busted is actually a topic you should do if you haven't done it already. It's a really interesting story and there's plenty of interviews from all three of the members that talks about it, as well as stuff Charlie said during the original Fightstar run.

  • @josepaz6677
    @josepaz66773 жыл бұрын

    This video was pure art, thank you for this!! Keep making more videos like these for other bands and etc!!

  • @_kidzero_
    @_kidzero_3 жыл бұрын

    Knife party is my favorite track off the record. Perfectly captures all the styles and influences the band uses and the guitar in the beginning is amazing.

  • @BidensTaint
    @BidensTaint3 жыл бұрын

    Never thought of deftones as nu metal. My favorite heavy band hands down

  • @soulburned6026

    @soulburned6026

    3 жыл бұрын

    They're alt metal. Only first album is nu metal.

  • @veltmore1

    @veltmore1

    3 жыл бұрын

    It definitely had that groovy, laid-back rhytmic style that Korn also had, for example.

  • @BidensTaint

    @BidensTaint

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@veltmore1 True. Chino even rapped on a few tracks in the early days. Very happy they quickly started doing their own thing

  • @DaremoTen
    @DaremoTen3 жыл бұрын

    I'd heard of the Deftones before, but never heard their music, being mostly pretty averse to 'nu metal'. What you played here, about half the songs sounded interesting, and of course you used my 'hunt' words, shoegaze and trip-hop. I might have to check this band out.

  • @igorilic5099

    @igorilic5099

    3 жыл бұрын

    Drive, change, knife party, digital bath, youve seen the butcher, cherry waves, phantom bride.. there are heavier stuff but these are some of my favourites, check em

  • @johnholmeswebb8162

    @johnholmeswebb8162

    3 жыл бұрын

    The Deftones only slightly fit into my metal on their first album. They never belonged there, their genre of music is "Deftones". They're a band that doesn't sound like anybody else, and even before the vocals come in, you know it's them. Based on your post, you should only listen to their albums from "White Pony" on.

  • @ArpeggioPegasusMusic

    @ArpeggioPegasusMusic

    3 жыл бұрын

    Deftones is very different from the usual nu-metal you'd find back in the late 90s.

  • @kchannel9464

    @kchannel9464

    3 жыл бұрын

    The Deftones are the greatest band of all time and space

  • @mrs4907
    @mrs49076 ай бұрын

    Props to the creator(s) of this documentary. The editing and most especially the writing is insanely good. Well done!

  • @t8yman
    @t8yman3 жыл бұрын

    I love your videos man. I learn things about bands I thought I knew everything about, you obviously research your subjects massively. Keep up the good work.

  • @t8yman

    @t8yman

    3 жыл бұрын

    Oh, digital bath is my fave.

  • @ThisIsJessPaul
    @ThisIsJessPaul3 жыл бұрын

    SO excited for this: one of my favorite bands covered by one of my favorite music essayists

  • @hachimitsuboi
    @hachimitsuboi3 жыл бұрын

    This video was such a delightful way to start my 3-day weekend. Sipping coffee in bed and listening to the best music historian/essay channel on KZread. Aloha Also: Rx Queen is my favorite song on White Pony.

  • @ok-tchau
    @ok-tchau3 жыл бұрын

    Outstanding album. Terry Date did an amazing job on the mix. That snare is stuff of legends.

  • @kawaiilotus
    @kawaiilotus3 жыл бұрын

    Brilliant vid man! My favourite track has to be digital bath, the four lines (you breathed and then you stopped I breathed and dried you off, to paraphrase) are just so simple but fantastically dense in meaning, fused with Chios's vocal style it's spectacularly haunting.

  • @thewasatch208
    @thewasatch2083 жыл бұрын

    I saw these guys back in 97. What a show! I still dig them. Thanks for the great, well deserved video man.

  • @EmptyDomoKanti99
    @EmptyDomoKanti993 жыл бұрын

    this is the album that’s had the most impact on me, just generally thank you for the video, it was super cool!

  • @dukeswim202
    @dukeswim2023 жыл бұрын

    "our longevity is what's really going to matter one day."...those days are now. What a wonderful record Ohms is

  • @theclassicmanila-style8435
    @theclassicmanila-style84353 жыл бұрын

    still waiting for a faith no more/ mr bungle video on how they become instrumental to majority of the bands in 90s and even in the early 2000s

  • @imalright2837
    @imalright28373 жыл бұрын

    Speaking of QOTSA.... more videos on them please!

  • @brandonpage7087
    @brandonpage70873 жыл бұрын

    Thanks so much for covering a band, from my High School days, & one that really represents my generation. I've long been a fan of the Deftones. My old highschool chum, Paul, introduced me to them. I agree, White Pony is definitely their definitive record. A true masterpiece! I remember Change (In the House of Flies), would constantly, be played on MTV2, back in the summer of 2000. I mean constantly, & I fell in love with track, as a result!

  • @RichRobinson
    @RichRobinson3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for this. Great job. I’ve grown with these guys as my soundtrack. This was a fun watch.

  • @Bloodyknukelzz
    @Bloodyknukelzz3 жыл бұрын

    Knife party and passenger are my personal favs but you can’t really go wrong with the whole thing

  • @laborawashere
    @laborawashere3 жыл бұрын

    Great video, loved this album ever since release. I do recall friends losing favor of the band for not being as "hard" as previous records but me being a big fan of shoegaze loved it. Had a very dark, distant feeling my favorites had to be Passenger or Pink Maggit.

  • @josephguillermo3007
    @josephguillermo30073 жыл бұрын

    I loved that album all the way through (without back to school), I remember buying it at Sam Goody, coming home and just had in my cd player, I had my headphones on and I just kept listening to it. This album has so much inspiration on newer bands and people want to just push this one to the side when it came out, the album to me is a masterpiece

  • @monkreeder
    @monkreeder3 жыл бұрын

    This is an album that I can listen to from beginning to end with no skips. It’s so excellent. Feiticeira and Korea tie for favorite.

  • @bobclay8041
    @bobclay80413 жыл бұрын

    I gotta say - this episode is just really really great. I've always been on the fence about this record, but the film brought me over to the right side of it for sure. I never knew the thing about the sequence of the record - always thought it was a weird 1st track to open such a cool record with, but sharing is caring.

  • @genexallybeardman
    @genexallybeardman3 жыл бұрын

    So whens the At the Drive-In essay dropping?

  • @liammcnicholas918

    @liammcnicholas918

    3 жыл бұрын

    At the Drive-In are one of the most complex hardcore bands out there. Plus he should also explore the Mars Volta, a side project of the band.

  • @yashchenko999

    @yashchenko999

    3 жыл бұрын

    I'm waiting for Unwound coverage

  • @jakehyrule7260

    @jakehyrule7260

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@liammcnicholas918 not a side project, THE side project.

  • @liammcnicholas918

    @liammcnicholas918

    3 жыл бұрын

    jake carpenter Omar has a lot of solo studio albums

  • @jakehyrule7260

    @jakehyrule7260

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@liammcnicholas918 yeah I know that, haha I just meant like the Mars volta was more than just a side project. Deloused is one of the greatest progressive rock albums of all time imo. All good though i was just poking a bit of fun.

  • @evanphillips570
    @evanphillips5703 жыл бұрын

    Good vid, would love to see you comment on how Kevin shields created an entirely new guitar sound and thus inspiring the whole shoegaze movement

  • @ReXtion88
    @ReXtion883 жыл бұрын

    Brilliant band with an amazing record. Very glad to have this video. I don't know if your process includes room for suggestions or requests, but I'd love to see you cast your eye over either Tool or Placebo. These videos are fantastic, incredibly well-researched and really fascinating

  • @Mr.Plant1994
    @Mr.Plant19949 ай бұрын

    Diamond Eyes might be my favorite album by them, but I truly do appreciate how good White Pony truly is.

  • @MrYouarethecancer
    @MrYouarethecancer3 жыл бұрын

    '03 Self titled is a killer album and entirely underrated.

  • @Agostoic
    @Agostoic3 жыл бұрын

    Deftones now? man, your channel keeps getting better. Cheers! Edit: *Feiticeira* remains as my fav track on the record, that opening riff stuck with me even 20 years later.

  • @miahthorpatrick1013

    @miahthorpatrick1013

    2 жыл бұрын

    Fieticeira: the true album opener!

  • @onewhitepony
    @onewhitepony3 жыл бұрын

    great video.. well done and summed up perfectly... id say my favorite to this day all these years later is Digital Bath, Teenager, RX Queen and of course Change but its all good. my favorite album ever by my favorite band

  • @psyedk
    @psyedk3 жыл бұрын

    Dude, great documentary. Such an amazing band, thanks for this insight into their career :D